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The content of the Template:Stars of MuscaTemplate:Stars of Musca page was merged into Template:Musca on 13 February 2019 and it now redirects there. For the contribution history and old versions of the merged article, please see its history.

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Template:Stars of Musca → Template:Musca – as part of a mass rename discussed at Template talk:Andromeda (constellation), {{Stars of Musca}} did not get moved because for some reason the target name ({{Musca}} already existed. There was an attempt to update {{Musca}} and convert {{Stars of Musca}} to a redirect, but I have reverted this. To preserve the history of the template that has been in use for the past 10 years, it would be better to move {{Stars of Musca}} properly and go from there. Lithopsian (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

This is a contested technical request (permalink). Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:27, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lithopsian: Since both templates have history dating back to 2009, this should probably be done as a WP:HISTMERGE, not a move. --Ahecht (TALK
PAGE) 19:27, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

There is no need to move or HISTMERGE this into Template:Musca. The edit history is preserved in the history of Template:Stars of Musca, which was and should remain coverted to a simple redirect. -- Netoholic @ 20:23, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That's not how it works. The attribution history for content should (preferably) remain in one place, not scattered amongst two or more different articles that even Einstein couldn't follow. It took me half an hour to work out that the original {{Musca}} looked so close to {{Stars of Musca}} because it was simply a wrapper with one line tagged on for the deep-sky objects. This would not be necessary of the template had been moved properly in the first place. Attempts since then to cut'n'paste the content of one template into another are just muddying the water. {{Musca}} has not been used for the last 10 years and should have been deleted if it was in the way of the desired move, not chopped and changed until nobody knew what was going on. Anyway, we'll see if an admin can make sense of the history, otherwise it may have to be abandoned as too much of a mess to be salvaged. Lithopsian (talk) 20:30, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

These aren't articles. They are navigational aids. In choosing which template to preserve use of, I chose the one that has been around longer (Template:Musca), and added links to the stars in but using a completely new method. Doing a HISTMERGE would completely muddy the page history. This is bordering on pedantic. If you read the text of the redirect page, you'll see it says "This redirect was kept in order to preserve this page's edit history after its content was merged into the target page's content". This is very standard and accepted practice. -- Netoholic @ 20:44, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]