Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Taylor Swift

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hey everyone, still new to this wikiproject so excuse if this isnt the place to ask...but i wanted to see what you think of the Background section of Speak Now. whyy is it all about Fearless?? i posted on the talk page that the section Recording and title is a more appropriate Background section, no?

also i see on the to-do list is to clean up Wonderstruck. it doesnt have a stub template. does it even meet the general notability guidelines? Melodies1917 (talk) 15:27, 17 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

There has been an unofficial TikTok remix of "Love Story" gaining traction on the app. I was just wondering if we should give it attention in the "Love Story" page. It is already mentioned, but I don’t think it should even be there to begin with, as it is unofficial and Swift hasn’t endorsed it or anything yet. Thoughts??? Doggy54321 (talk) 13:20, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It isn't due a mention in the lead. Though if it has charted somewhere, it's fine to add that to the chart section.--NØ 13:26, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Ok thanks! I’ll make the appropriate edits! Doggy54321 (talk) 13:29, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello,

The 1989 World Tour had a concert film to go along with it. Taylor Swift videography says it was an Apple Music exclusive. It has been taken down from Apple Music, and you cannot play it anymore. Should this be deleted or at least have a little blurb like "This was later taken down from Apple Music on (DMY)"? Thoughts?? Doggy54321 (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm a part of this project, but I'm unsure where am I supposed to keep watch of all the articles under its domain. I clicked on the WikiProject Watchlist link, but it seems broken; it's redirecting to a different website. Can someone help me? Thank you. BawinV (talk) 05:27, 6 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BawinV: sorry, just saw this now. The same thing happened for me 😩😩. It gave me a 404 error notice and then tried to redirect to another link but nothing loaded after a good 5 minutes. Oh well. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 20:52, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I forgot even asking this and I'm flabbergasted that no one cared to reply me (until you came along) :"/ BawinV (talk) 21:02, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BawinV: Lmao rip. I think the link has been broken for a long time now. D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 21:05, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@Doggy54321: There are way too many Taylor Swift articles for us to add to our watchlists 😭 BawinV (talk) 21:12, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

@BawinV: here, maybe this will help. All albums, singles, songs, videography, tours, performances need to be watched, as well as the main page (obviously), all WikiProject pages and sub-pages, the awards/nominations page and Book:Taylor Swift. The latter is really helpful to navigate around articles, but it needs a major update. Hope this helps! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 21:21, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much!!! BawinV (talk) 05:36, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I’ve noticed that Speak Now#Background is entirely written based on Fearless (Taylor Swift album), with no mention of Speak Now anywhere. Could anyone re-write that section? I’m knee deep in schoolwork and can’t really make any major edits to Wikipedia right now, and that section staying there for two more days is a major inconvenience to readers. If someone could reconstruct that paragraph, that would be great. Thanks! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 20:55, 24 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The 1989 World Tour article, currently a good article nominee, and Lover Fest meet WP Accessibility goals. Propose to update the rest (5) of her tour articles for consistency (see WP:CONCERTS#Tables for specifics). If no one objects, I'll go ahead and make these changes. —Ojorojo (talk) 17:52, 7 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Go ahead! Thanks so much! D🐶ggy54321 ^{(let's chat!)} 16:30, 8 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Done. The date entries in Taylor Swift's Reputation Stadium Tour#Shows were already formatted with style="text-align:center;". It's a matter of preference, so I left them in. However, it makes the table different from the rest of her tour articles, in which the dates are left-justified. —Ojorojo (talk) 14:48, 10 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

There's a discussion I started about the "Single" status of Exile, Betty, The 1, No Body No Crime and Coney Island here. Please take part. Thank You. BawinV (talk) 04:03, 9 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Has a consensus been reached anywhere re the separation of notable-enough "Taylor's Version" albums/songs from their original album/song article? Fearless (Taylor's Version) has been split; Love Story (Taylor's Version) was split by someone earlier today but reverted... if not, a discussion should probably be initiated so everyone can know how to go forward, since there's six more albums of this coming! - Peterpie123rww (talk) 17:32, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Pinging users I see editing on TS articles often... Doggy54321; BawinV; HĐ; JackReynoldsADogOwner - Peterpie123rww (talk) 17:33, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Albums: split all of them right away. Let's be honest: Taylor Swift is one of the biggest pop stars on the planet, and it feels like every time she breathes, there's an article about it. Obviously, there will be plenty of coverage for all the albums right away. As well, it's quite challenging to edit the album pages, as they're so big and it takes quite a bit to load.
• Singles: split them right away as well. Anything mainstream will also receive loads of coverage from the media straightaway.
• Anything else (promo singles, songs, the Vault songs): case by case basis. For some songs, Wikipedia already has articles on them, such as White Horse (song). In that case, I think the re-recorded version warrants a mention in the article (which can be seen if you look at #White Horse (Taylor's Version) or use the redirect White Horse (Taylor's Version)), but, unless the song receives significant coverage from reliable sources (unlikely for most, but it will probably happen for a couple tracks per album), I don't see why a split would be useful. For other songs like Hey Stephen, the 2008 version of the song doesn't even have an article to begin with, so, unless the song receives significant coverage, I don't think creating an article would be useful, especially when the original doesn't even have an article.
• For now: Fearless (Taylor's Version), "Love Story (Taylor's Version)" and "You All Over Me" have all received enough coverage to warrant standalone articles. "Wildest Dreams" has only received coverage for the teaser in the trailer for Spirit Untamed, and I don't think that is enough to warrant a standalone article yet. However, I do think that a section in the article is warranted. All the other songs ("We Were Happy", "The Way I Loved You" and "The Best Day", for example) don't have any coverage yet. Sorry for the extra long explanation, I think it will be more helpful if I word-vomit now and don't have to repeat myself in the future, Hope this helps! D🐰ggy54321 ^{(the Easter bunny has been summoned...)} 17:58, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with you completely, I have just moved LS TV to its own article. It easily meets notability standards. Cheers - Peterpie123rww (talk) 20:47, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome!! D🐰ggy54321 ^{(the Easter bunny has been summoned...)} 21:14, 6 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

• Sticking to the current releases, as far as Fearless (TV) and Love Story (TV) are concerned, they both have garnered widespread notability more than enough to warrant separate articles. Therefore, I vote that they remain separate articles. Regarding future releases, I think we shall discuss it when the time comes; I'm pretty sure they all going to have to be separate articles, since everything Swift does generates a bunch of reviews/articles/commentaries. BawinV (talk) 19:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

  Has the time come?? Jorge906 (talk) 16:04, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Does anyone have the The 1989 World Tour Book and could look up something for me? If so, please see Wikipedia:WikiProject Resource Exchange/Resource Request/Archive_119#The 1989 World Tour Book. Thanks! --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:38, 21 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An RfC has been started at MOS:MUSIC relating to song articles. All comments are welcome. (Posting here as it may impact an article in the project purview that I am aware of: Shake It Off. --TheSandDoctor ^Talk 05:20, 4 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

An RfC has been started to determine the reliability of the Medium publication Cuepoint. This publication is used in some Swift related articles. Your participation is welcomed. TheSandDoctor ^Talk 17:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, are all Taylor Swift songs considered notable? More specifically, any song on one of her albums like Midnights or Red or Evermore. Ex. Question...? or gold rush.

*note: not including deluxe, special, or other language versions. OfTheUsername (talk) 19:01, 20 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I want to make a wikipedia article about Gaylors and Gaylor theories, but given that everything Gaylors believe is speculation, basically the only thing I would be able to cite with a reliable source would be that they exist. Does anyone have any advice on how to navigate this, or is a mention in the Taylor Swift article going to be the best I can do? Derekeaaron1 (talk) 03:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could The Eras Tour be a possible topic?

The Eras Tour can be the lead article, with Impact of the Eras Tour, 2022 Ticketmaster controversy, and Taylor Sheesh under it. OfTheUsername (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This talk page has not replied-to comment in the past two years, so I'm going to be bold and add it. It's easily removable and doesn't disrupt anything. Obviously feel free to remove it, but I'd prefer if you could tell me why here before you do. OfTheUsername (talk) 19:12, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

It seems like a reasonable topic that will grow as the tour goes into 2024 -- Guerillero ^{Parlez Moi} 22:32, 4 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. It could be its own topic. ℛonherry☘ 06:18, 5 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

And also Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour and The Eras Tour Book Jorge906 (talk) 16:06, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Motion Picture Association of America has rated the ERAS TOUR film PG-13 and and titled the film "TAYLOR SWIFT | THE ERAS TOUR" all capitalized, and punctuated with a pike. (https://screen-connections.com/2023/10/10/cara-mpa-film-ratings-bulletin-10-11-23-the-hunger-games-the-ballad-of-songbirds-and-snakes-urkel-saves-santa-taylor-swift/) The page for the film lists this as a stylized spelling, however, this is the actual title for the film and the commonly-used version with a colon is a stylized version of the film title, perhaps due to convenience. Other films with stylized titles have their proper title as the page title with the stylized versions noted elsewhere. Can this film page be retitled to reflect the proper title of the film? 2600:4040:9C30:6E00:F5D3:24F:4680:D5FD (talk) 02:08, 27 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

There is a discussion currently going on at Talk:The Eras Tour regarding a statement about the tour. The discussion can found at Talk:The Eras Tour#Paris La Défense is NOT a stadium. Thanks. HorrorLover555 (talk) 12:16, 10 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This discussion proposes the creation of a separate "Personal Life" section on Taylor Swift's Wikipedia page, specifically focusing on her relationships, which are currently interwoven within the "Career" section. The goal is to enhance readability, organization, and accessibility, aligning with Wikipedia's standard structure for high-profile figures. Notably, a "Personal Life" section was previously present on Swift’s Wikipedia page but was removed and merged into the "Career" section in recent years. This restructuring has created readability and neutrality concerns, making it necessary to reinstate the section in a more objective, clear, and accessible manner.

Reasons for Separation of Career and Personal Life:

Improved Readability & Navigation – Currently, information about Swift’s relationships is scattered throughout her "Career" section, making it difficult for readers specifically looking for details on this aspect of her life. A dedicated section would allow for a clearer and more intuitive layout.

Standardization with Other Influential Figures – Many major public figures, including musicians, actors, and politicians, have separate sections for their personal lives and careers. Given Swift’s significant public history regarding relationships and the impact they have had on her music, this is a justified addition.

Avoiding Career-Relationship Overlap – While her personal relationships have inspired many of her songs, the "Career" section should strictly cover her music, business ventures, and professional milestones. The "Personal Life" section would document relationships chronologically, including key confirmed details, timelines, and sources—without unnecessary crossover.

Better Organization for Readers – Many visitors to Swift’s Wikipedia page will be interested in specific aspects of her life. Forcing users to scroll through career details to find scattered references to relationships creates unnecessary difficulty. A clear division would allow users to locate information efficiently.

Maintaining Wikipedia’s Sourcing Standards – The new section would be structured to ensure only verified and well-sourced information is included, detailing confirmed relationships, timelines, and significant public events, preventing speculation or unreliable claims.

Historical Context & Prior Changes – It is important to note that Taylor Swift's Wikipedia page previously contained a dedicated "Personal Life" section, which was removed and rewoven into her Career section for reasons that remain unclear. This decision negatively impacted the neutrality, clarity, and usability of the page. Given the significance of her personal life in shaping her music and public image, reinstating a separate section aligns with Wikipedia’s organizational and readability best practices.

Proposed Structure for the "Personal Life" Section:

Overview – A brief summary of her public persona, media attention, and influence on pop culture.

Relationships – Chronological breakdown of her confirmed relationships, including years, notable events, controversies, and associated songs. Public Perception & Media Scrutiny – Addressing how her relationships have been discussed in the media and public sphere.

Timeline Table/Graph – A visual representation for clarity.

This proposal aims to ensure neutrality, accuracy, and ease of access while maintaining the integrity of Wikipedia’s content structure. The removal of a previously existing "Personal Life" section has led to readability and structural issues, and this discussion seeks to correct that. Would appreciate feedback and discussion from WikiProject Taylor Swift contributors. 81.104.20.91 (talk) 16:15, 5 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

How could I expand The Official Taylor Swift: The Eras Tour Book article Jorge906 (talk) 14:01, 28 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hello WikiProject Taylor Swift members,

I’m planning to create a standalone article for Taylor Swift: Reputation Stadium Tour. I am in the process of gathering reliable sources—including potential reviews and analysis from major publications like Variety, Rolling Stone, The Guardian, and The New York Times—that discuss the film’s production, cinematography, and cultural impact. Based on this anticipated independent coverage, I believe the film meets Wikipedia’s notability guidelines for concert films.

I’d appreciate any feedback or suggestions before I proceed with drafting the article. Note that this is a new creation focused solely on the film, not a proposal to split or merge content from the main Reputation Stadium Tour article.

Thank you for your input! Jorge906 (talk) 16:03, 22 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Swifties! Is there any userbox for "This user is one of the Swifties" or "This user is Taylor's Version"? And then categorize them in something "Category:Wikipedian Swifties". Please share, thank you! M. Billoo 15:50, 15 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@M.Billoo2000 - Not sure about the category part, but we have WP:Userboxes/Music/Musician#Taylor Swift. GoldRomean (talk) 17:24, 24 June 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hi all. There are two active queries at TS12 talk page. Anyone is most welcome to participate, thank you!

• Talk:The Life of a Showgirl#Meme inspirations
• Talk:The Life of a Showgirl#Swift vs Trump Saga?

M. Billoo 10:12, 17 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hey all, I'm not part of WikiProject Taylor Swift, but I am a part of WikiProject Film, and I'm just letting you guys know that I've made a draft article for the forthcoming Taylor Swift: The Official Release Party of a Showgirl film based on info from the The Life of a Showgirl article. All are welcome to help contribute to the draft so we can publish it as an article for the mainspace.
—Thanks, Mjks28 (talk) 10:00, 29 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]