Article Tandoori Chicken has been nominated on Wikipedia:Today's articles for improvement/Nominations here. Kindly vote for Tandoori Chicken so that many people may work to improve that article, also more and more people will know about Tandoori Chicken. Thank you. --Human3015 knock knock • 22:37, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Admin-intervention is highly welcome here. Someone edit-warring on the talkpage, because he wants separate headers, meanwhile removing my comments. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 05:56, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
This IP's vandalism has hit the national news in India [1]. Can people go to check all of his/her edits? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:08, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
Dear India experts: Here is a draft article about an Indian political activist. If this draft is accepted, what should the title be? Also, in the article, what is the surname of this person? I'd like to change the paragraphs to use just one name. —Anne Delong (talk) 19:04, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
Dear India experts: Here is a draft article about a film that may be of interest. —Anne Delong (talk) 04:04, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
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See Template talk:Hindu philosophy#RfC: should this template also contain links to Jainism and Buddhism as "Related Indian philosophies"? Best regards, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:18, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Is anyone able to find sources to improve the Nahar Singh article or make a comment at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Nahar Singh? Sionk (talk) 22:07, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
Editors watching this page might be interested in this AfD. Vanamonde93 (talk) 20:32, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
Namaste ! Do we have two pages (Kumar (name) and Kumar) about the same object ? Should they be merged into one ? --Movses (talk) 18:48, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
There's a disagreement at Faisalabad, which I have explained at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#POV/Peacock pushing at Faisalabad. Any input would be appreciated. Mr Potto (talk) 16:49, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello there! This submission is likely notable, although it does need extensive cleanup, etc. Draft:Indian Information Service. Best, FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 02:13, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello India experts. Here's a draft article about a village, but I haven't been able to find much in the way of references.—Anne Delong (talk) 01:38, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
The official definition seems to be changing too often and this is causing a lot of ad-hoc changes to our article, especially population and area. Any suggestions on how to deal with this? I think recently Karnal and Muzzafarnagar districts have been added to an already large region. —SpacemanSpiff 16:35, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I have noticed that many institutes of India having similar names are differing by their city name which should be in brackets e.g.Indian Institute of Technology Bhubaneswar must be in this form, Indian Institute of Technology (Bhubaneswar) but they are not ..I'm here to discuss that they must be in brackets as having (disambiguation).....Here is page which i have created Indian Institute of Technology (disambiguation) which includes all institutes which must be addressed according to Wikipedia rules e.g. Air University disambiguation page has their universities names in brackets....similarly Steven Smith disambiguation page they have their birth years in brackets so why administrator of India is permitting me to move articles which must be in brackets....there is another example e.g. Benazir Bhutto University where universities city names are in brackets so why Indian institutes articles have that form , GreenCricket (talk) 15:05, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (Mumbai) was a funny move. Thank god it wasn't moved to Indian Institute of Technology Bombay (Mumbai, also known as Bombay, the official name until 1995) based on Talk:Mumbai#Mumbai_vs_Bombay_argument. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 08:42, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
This is a Peer review request to seek broader input to improve page: meta:Help:Form I & Affidavit (Customised for relinquishment of copyright as per 'free cultural work' definition) an option available under (Indian) Copyright act 1957 rules.
Mahitgar (talk) 06:53, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
I can't find any good version in the article history. There are large number of IP edits and it is very hard to decide what revision I should revert to. Can anyone help this article? (Supdiop🔹Talk🔹Contribs) 16:58, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
Would anyone want to look for sources for Chehere (2015 film)? I've tried looking for sources under a variety of combinations using regular Google and this WP's Google, but I'm not really finding much. Given some of the names in this film you'd think that there would have been more coverage than what I'm finding. Maybe there's something I've missed? It's up for AfD, so I'd like to try to get another set of eyes on this just to make sure that I haven't missed an obvious combination. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 08:45, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello India experts. This new page looks like a picture book! It has almost no text, or sources. I've dropped a pile of help, advisory & now some warning template messages on their talk page. Editor has so far been unresponsive, other than to remove maintenance templates, and editing/reverting back to centred, and big and bold headings! Any notability here or should it be deleted? Regards, 220 of Borg 03:43, 9 July 2015 (UTC)
I've come across an article today, Thiruppuvanam, which contains contradictory information. It's described in its infobox and introduction as being in Sivaganga district, but is categorized as being in Tiruvannamalai district — and according to the edit history, it's been contradicting itself like that for at least a couple of years. As I'm not familiar enough with Indian geography to know which one is correct, I wanted to ask if somebody associated with this project could take a look at this and fix whichever one of those two districts is the wrong one. Thanks. Bearcat (talk) 16:11, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
559. Thirupuvanam (TP) TN, Population: 21589, Class - III, 560. Thirupuvanam (TP) TN, Population: 14135, Class - IV
I started this article because cannabis has been in the news so much the last few years, but we didn't have any article about India specifically even though it has a long history and close ties with cannabis products. Please help add more cited facts to this article! Goonsquad LCpl Mulvaney (talk) 12:29, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
An anonymous editor User: 223.29.197.66 has been adding some relevant information at times and then has been fiddling with the information on such pages as Jadavpur (Vidhan Sabha constituency), Tollyganj (Vidhan Sabha constituency) and Jangipur (Lok Sabha constituency). His system is to add irrelevant information and delete it himself. He would make several such entries in a day, thereby fuzzing up the editing history part. In between he is indulging in vandalism. At times he also uses other user nos. As he is making a mess of things there is need to keep an watch on West Bengal Vidhan Sabha and Lok Sabha pages. - Chandan Guha (talk) 10:46, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
I was wondering if anyone could help dig for sources for this. It looks like it's a folk dance sort of thing, so it's likely that coverage will probably not be in English. I didn't find much, but I didn't know if it might be something that could be merged somewhere else on Wikipedia? It's up for deletion and I let them know that I'd post here for some help. Tokyogirl79 (。◕‿◕。) 05:28, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
I very recently found that Template:Panchayat of Hajipur block created by Vickysingh007bond (talk · contribs) lacked proper capitalisation.
I fixed that, and in doing so found that 24 of 26 places on that template also had a lack of capitalisation in the correct places, like the place name in the lede, and inappropriate ALL CAPS in the infoboxes!
Investigating further it seems that almost every page this editor created 7 to 8 months ago [8] is still in the same parlous state! It's late here (UTC+10) so I am not going to fix them now, I've done some, please help! • Another thing that worries me is some of these pages were marked 'patrolled' by an admin. • Template:Vaishali district topics, this template too requires many 'cap' fixes • @Anna Frodesiak: who asked Vickysingh007bond to fix things like this, for her information. - 220 of Borg 16:19, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
A related question: I noticed that many of the articles mentioned above eg Andharwara, start with "X is a gram panchayat". Is "gram panchayat" also a geographical unit (besides being a governing body)? This is plausible (cf.muncipality) but I wanted to make sure and if confirmed, it should be mentioned in the gram panchayat aricle. Abecedare (talk) 16:22, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
Category:Talukas in Marathwada and Category:Talukas in Vidarbha have been nominated for possible deletion. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2015 July 17 on the CfD page. Adding this note here as categories don't get listed on Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/India which many of you might be watching. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 13:10, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Can someone please review Babul Supriyo's article. The introduction part is very large without any reliable sources. Thank you. Tolly4bolly 09:53, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
Discussion to be found here about whether or not Rajputana Agency is to be regarded as a defining characteristic of the Indian princely states in the category. Marcocapelle (talk) 21:51, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Feel free to join the discussion. Marcocapelle (talk) 22:03, 18 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again India experts. Here's a draft about a temple, but I am not clear about its name. Is this a separate temple from the Hanuman Garhi and Bhairav Garhi mentioned in the draft?—Anne Delong (talk) 18:18, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Are adding cinema theatres and shopping malls in village and town pages correct?--Vin09 (talk) 06:30, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Are Justdial and moviebuff kind of sites falls in WP:REFSPAM, which state -> removal of multiple valid sources and statements in an article in favor of a single, typically questionable or low-value, web source? Citing directorial or WP:UGC kind of sites as a reference notable?--Vin09 (talk) 06:42, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
Mahitgar (talk) 03:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello, India experts. Here's a draft article about a village. Would anyone like to improve it?—Anne Delong (talk) 04:16, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hello again India experts. Here's another India-related draft. I have removed about half of the references and content because there was a lot of opinion and contentious material sourced to a law firm's wordpress blog. What's left seems to be about an important topic, but needs to be checked out and updated by someone who knows about the subject. There is also E-commerce in India, but it has a different focus, mainly the development of the industry.—Anne Delong (talk) 13:58, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, does anyone know anything about Gurcharan Singh Bhikhi (Sidki)? He's a Punjabi poet from Bhikhi which, according to the article, is in Pakistan, however he moved to India at some point and may be familiar there. The article is unsourced and has been since 2013. The chief contributors haven't done much to establish his notability and I'm having trouble finding references at Google News or Google Books, so more specialized help would be appreciated. There was some borderline edit-warring going on yesterday that was also troublesome. Thank you. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:05, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
A few years back we had identified the group as a mirror and plagiarism publication house, while most of their content is copied without attribution from our articles, there's also unattributed use of a few other sources and it's been listed in the mirrors list. We had then done a purge of all usage of it as a source. While looking at a source on one article, I came across the fact that this group has come back as a reference in 473 articles, which obviously means we have to get it out of there. Suggestions on how to go about it? —SpacemanSpiff 14:23, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Naming of Junctions in Indian railways pages. Like XXX railway station to XXX Junction railway station.--Vin09 (talk) 06:39, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Bhojpuri experts feel free to expend and add references (possibly in local language) to the article, Janam Janam Ke Saath. — CutestPenguinHangout 10:03, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
Heads up: 2015 Gurdaspur attack. utcursch | talk 04:19, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
The article Men's rights movement in India is under discussion for NPOV issues on the NPOV Noticeboard. Please discuss ways to improve the article or whether the article should be written from scratch. -Kenfyre (talk) 10:55, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
A discussion on how to name a section for railways. For example Tenali-Repalle branch line, Vijayawada-Machilipatnam section, Visakhapatnam–Vijayawada section. I've moved Vijayawada–Guntur section to Guntur–Krishna Canal section as per Guntur railway division info at SCR Guntur Division. So, a railway division is the main node or any large station? Also, the naming should be from top(north) to bottom(south) station? More info needed on this.--Vin09 (talk) 15:06, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
Anonymous editor using 223.29.197.171 and other IDs has been vandalising several of the West Bengal Vidhan Sabha and Lok Sabha constituency pages occasionally. His recent attacks include several on the Jadavpur (Lok Sabha constituency) page. Many of his edits are good and valauable additions, except that these are unreferenced. This is not a major problem as references can be added later.See Panskura (Lok Sabha constituency). Please help in this matter- Chandan Guha (talk) 02:02, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
The article on Ram Pyari Gurjar claims that she was a woman commander who fought against Timur. However, the only source cited in the article is The royal Gurjars by Nau Nihal Singh. The book seems less of a reliable scholarly work and more of an attempt at ethnic glorification. I cannot find any other sources -- Google just throws up Wikipedia mirrors or articles based on Wikipedia. I've tried searching with alternative transliterations. Singh claims that she fought alongside Jograj Singh Panwar -- I can find mentions of this guy in some reliable sources, but those sources describe his story as more of a local legend than history.
Being a female commander who fought against Timur is no mean achievement. So, it's surprising that there are not more sources that mention this. I am wondering if this is a real historical figure, a legend or a hoax. Any inputs are appreciated. utcursch | talk 17:03, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
Proposed move discussion (Vithoba to Vitthal) is going on here Talk:Vithoba#Requested move 29 July 2015 --Human3015Send WikiLove 22:08, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
There is an ongoing RM discussion. --George Ho (talk) 16:14, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
Article here. Apparently someone from the ToI went through my edit history too. —SpacemanSpiff 19:14, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
JNM was moved to user space after the latest delete decision and it stayed there getting stronger in content and then came back to article space recently. I admire the great efforts of the User:Bluerasberry, especially of commissioning the image of JNM. But I still don't see much of encyclopedic value in the article. But alas, I find myself furious and helpless. The article has now got tons of material, (we won't comment on the educational quality of it yet), which very well fit in our sacred WP:V policy. The article won't be deleted now, at least on the face value. But as it stays, it remains a live example of what Wikipedia is not.... But congrats User:SpacemanSpiff, just like JNM you too can have an article sooner or later post featuring in TOI. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 11:58, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
RfC is going on regarding result section in infobox. Kindly give your opinion on talk page here Talk:Indo-Pakistani War of 1971#RFC, Should "Decisive victory of Provisional Banlgladesh Government" be written in result? (reporting on India-Pakistan-Bangladesh related notice boards) --Human3015Send WikiLove 22:06, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
Current version:
Proposed version:
Reasons for proposed change:
I welcome your comments and concerns for the above proposed WP:INDICSCRIPT version on the main page. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 15:02, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
@Abecedare: I empathize with your experience and frustration. My proposal is not triggered or motivated by "Person A" articles and similar India-related notable subjects. My proposal is predominantly motivated by Sanskrit-related and Indian philosophy-related articles. There, a Sanskrit script for a philosophical concept is just a statement of fact if and when it is verifiable in a reliable source. There, it is not WP:NPOV issue because there aren't multiple sides and NPOV presumes more than one POV. As explained above, I see addition of Indic script when verifiable in a reliable source, to be consistent with wiki's overall policies and wiki's policy on consensus.
Perhaps, a solution is to be found in more clearly defining the scope of India-related topics where WP:INDICSCRIPT applies, and where it doesn't. Indian philosophy and practices such as Yoga has presence, and wide interest, outside India. Hindu philosophy and history has been found outside India, such as in southeast Asia in past and Bali Indonesia currently.
Democracy (majority votes) should not overrule the Constitution (core policies), outside or inside wikipedia. We wouldn't need the Supreme Court or the wiki's Arb committee / Admins, were votes to decide everything. It would be a tragedy if "original research" becomes acceptable in wiki articles after an RfC and majority consensus because that was democratic. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:31, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
The previous conclusion at WP:INDICSCRIPT was not a good summary of the discussion, and indic scripts for the topic name are useful (esp. geographical), and they are appropriate in the infobox. --Bejnar (talk) 16:56, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
Now that we have already opened this topic, someone please edit this MOS to specifically include the accepted exclusions; like the geographic places mentioned above by Sitush. Also, as SpacemanSpiff says, the Indic scripts are more useful to editors than readers. I and others have many times provided Indic scripts for search terms for articles at AfDs and doing a regional language search have at many times been useful to not only collect information but also establish notability of subjects not very well covered in English internet world. We specifically face these challenges with not-so-celebrated people or remote locations or traditions restricted to local regions. And if these Indic scripts are useful to enhancing the article in this manner, a little vandalism is no good reason for excluding them thoroughly. I agree that stuffing lead sentence with non-readable-by-many or browser-not-supported-texts is tacky. It also eats up the space in external search engines where more valuable info would be provided in the small preview than eat the space by these scripts. But we should not forget it's utility value. Some have argued that these scripts are available on respective language wiki and can be found on Wikidata. But that’s only if the article in that language exists and let's not forget how some regional wikis are lousy. Also, let's not forget that if not majority but at least a small group of readers would really use the Indic scripts more than those IPAs to understand the right pronunciation. In the previous RfC itself it was proposed that these Indic scripts be moved to other locations within visible range itself, maybe infobox or footnote or something brand new. But that proposal was drowned in the usual banter. I would still appreciate if some thought was given to include scripts in a more workable manner than just shoo them off totally. Also, do note that 26-official-language-in-lead is only a hypothetical problem and that hasn't really happened, not even to make a point. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 05:23, 7 July 2015 (UTC)
@Sitush, @SpacemanSpiff: The boundaries between Buddhism-, Jainism-, Hinduism-, Sikhism-related biographies, etc and India-related articles is fuzzy, and your concerns resonate with my own. I agree with @Abecedare that this needs judicious judgment in Hinduism project articles. For Vedas, Upanishads, various schools of Indian philosophy, sanskrit-rooted philosophy articles, where RS is cited for the devanagari-script, I do not anticipate a concern. Requiring a reliable source for the script, in Hinduism project articles where it is allowed, is a more appropriate guideline. Indeed, vandalism is a problem in wikipedia, but banning even RS-sourced content in philosophy articles is not the way to end vandalism, or fear thereof. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 16:04, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
Wouldn't recommend reopening the can of worms
NO. Indic scripts in the lead caused massive flame wars and edit wars in the past with rather disgusting edit summaries such as edit rape. Consensus was arrived at for a reason, and there is NO grounds to change it. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
The leading section of the article Swachh Bharat Abhiyan, needs to be rewritten. Please feel free to improve. Thanks! — CutestPenguinHangout 17:04, 2 August 2015 (UTC)
What is the general opinion of Tennews.in as a Reliable Source? --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 16:47, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Sompura Brahmin is unclear and hard to understand in many places, due I'm sure in large part to non-native or Indian English and partly to unexplained Hindu terms, such as shilp-shastra. I've done my best at editing it for clarity, but I know little more about Hinduism and Gujarat than the average American. The page needs work by a knowledgeable person. I'm willing to help with editing but I can't do any more with content. Please {{ping}} me to discuss. (Thanks to Human3015 for pointing me to this page.) --Thnidu (talk) 19:11, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know if this exists/existed and its current status? Abecedare (talk) 17:17, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
Before Independence the flag of the Viceroy of India was a Union Jack superimposed with a crown and the Star of India. After Independence, the flag of the Governor-General was dark blue with the crest of the Lion and Crown in full colour with 'India' in golden letters. When India became a Republic, the flag of the President was quarterly, blue and red with the charges in gold line: first the Ashoka Lions, second an elephant, third a pair of scales, and fourth a lotus bowl. The Lion came from the Ashoka Column and represented unity. Patience and strength were embodied, in the lively-looking 5th Century elephant, taken from the Ajanta frescoes. The scales, a 17th century Moslem design came from the Red Fort, Delhi and symbolised justice and economy, and the lotus bowl, from Sarnath, (Circa 1st century bc) stood for prosperity and plenty. The Governors of the provinces flew a saffron flag with a crown. This was also superseded by the state emblem and the name of province which later became the state. The names of the states were changed into Devanagri script, when India became a Republic. On August 15, 1971 it was, however, decided that the President and the State Governors will fly the National Flag.
Use of Sri and Swamy in temple names. Some don't use like Tirumala Venkateswara Temple, Hanuman Temple, Kedara-Gouri, Kanaka Durga Temple. To maintain uniformity there should be a consensus.--Vin09 (talk) 05:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I have nominated Tamils for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. —SpacemanSpiff 07:34, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
Editors watching this page might be interested in this merge discussion, which proposes merging Religious conflicts in India into Religious violence in India. Vanamonde93 (talk) 03:28, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Should we change the title? Harda twin train derailment is also mentioned in many sources. Please give your opinions. Supdiop (Talk🔹Contribs) 04:51, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I should have asked this in article talk page but since this is a new article there will be very low traffic, so I asked here. Supdiop (Talk🔹Contribs) 06:02, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
I see where Sitush is coming from. This article that I picked out of Supdiop's template on a rail accident in India earlier this year presumably generated a lot of coverage initially. The last line says "a report would be published within a month". Perhaps the report was published (or not) but apparently everyone - the news media and wikipedia editors - have forgotten all about the derailment. This rail accident article is likely to be similarly moribund a few days from now. --regentspark (comment) 22:51, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Wikipedia has got the national attention of India [13]. Expect all kinds of editors to come in and hack it, like this one [14]. Dear admins, you have your work cut out for you! - Kautilya3 (talk) 08:12, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
Theory aside, practically if, Naivedhya & Prasad are the same thing, then why not merge these two articles in to one. So better encyclopedic attention will be given by the community. pl do suggest.
Mahitgar (talk) 07:52, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
I have found some good sources on the historical and political aspects, but the sections on the military preparation and operation are very weak and only sourced to a couple of websites. Any help is appreciated. I have also asked on WP:MILHIST Kingsindian ♝♚ 11:42, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
Samethanahalli Rama Rao has been unsourced since at least 2009. Can anything be done with it or is it a candidate for WP:AFD? - Sitush (talk) 14:00, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
There's an ANI post about the article at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Qualified eyes needed at Bhakt. Interested editors may want to look at the article and/or the ANI post. —SpacemanSpiff 14:21, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
Is there anyone who can assist in explaining things to a contributor who might well come from the Bihar region? User_talk:Sitush#Any_passing_admin.3F gives the background. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 08:52, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello Everyone,
If you have time would you please take a look at this article: [15] and this discussion [16] and provide your input. There is a cited content dispute I am having [17] and I feel that this board can help with some clarification for this topic. I was told to post here and I would find help. There seems to be a group of swaminarayan followers who refuse to allow cited information in the article. Also if you are member of this group, could you please refrain from providing a biased POV. It is difficult to be neutral because members of BAPS feel like it is their duty to make sure their group is portrayed a certain type of way on Wikipedia from cited controversy. Another editor has asked openly for help on improving what has been written so please feel free to do so directly in the article.
Thank you, Swamiblue (talk) 23:37, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
There is a discussion at Talk:Andhra_Pradesh_Express.--Vin09 (talk) 11:36, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Weird question, does anyone recognize the language being used here, and if so, can someone help with a translation? For some context, I'm involved in an SPI case, and an IP editor flagged a user as a sock of another user. The IP also left these comments, so I'm curious what they are saying. Thanks, and sorry for the weirdness. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:45, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
I have found one very interesting Wikipedia Fiji Hindi Wikipedia which writes impure form of Hindi language inspired from "Awadhi" and "Bhojpuri" in English script. For example see Welcome message on my talk page there [18]. Also read article India there. If anyone interested they can edit some pages there. No need of Devanagari script. -Human3015Send WikiLove 19:36, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
There is a bit of fuss kicking up at articles about the gymnosophists, particularly Dandamis and Kalanos. A user who is new to English Wikipedia is using modern religious sources of extreme questionability to push the position that Kalanos and Dandamis in particular were Jain. The article on Dandamis, who was Kalanos' teacher (I think), is a mess and needs wikifying and sourcing. Kalanos is extremely heavily cited to RS, however, and that includes scholarly statements that there is no way to know his religion without a time machine or startling new finds from Classical Antiquity, but that it was highly unlikely he was Jain (he immolated himself, he wore clothes, he used fire) and came from Taxila, which at the time was a Buddhist powerhouse. It's very neutral on his affiliation.
I have advocated quite strongly for Jainism and done a ton of cleanup over the years. I revamped a lot of the Jain articles, but I took a wikibreak and they have gotten pretty messy and unreliable in many cases, full of hagiography and the like. If the RS say Dandamis was likely a Jain, I'm fine with that. But as I pointed out at Kalanos, we can't just decide based on our personal biases. We need scholarly sourcing. Given that the user added Template:Jainism topics to Gautama Buddha and is citing a modern Jain revivalist named Acharya Shri 108 Guptinandi Ji Maharaj, I would appreciate extra pairs of eyes with a note to RS.
However, this relatively new user has now canvassed some 30 Jain user accounts about Dandamis, who he insists on calling "Dandam Muni". I'm not aware that Dandamis was assigned a specific faith based on what little information we have on him as well nor that he is routinely classified as a Digambara Jain monk.
I'm concerned we stick to the RS (whatever they say!) and would appreciate anyone willing to help as I think the editor feels I am picking on him (the word "censorship" was used on the Talk page of Gautama Buddha, for example). Ogress smash! 20:00, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
Need a mediator at Talk:Rasgulla#Removal_of_citation_needed_tags.
There is contention about two lines in the article:
Both are supported with a source; here is the direct quote from the source:
(Note: The article uses "claimed", because there are other sources which contest the claim of the Rasgulla having originated as Khir Mohana in Odisha).
Both the sentences are referenced, but User:Snthakur is adding {{citation needed}} tags to these sentences. The reason given by him is "I do not see Khiramohana and Bengali Rasgulla have reliable sources to establish them as features in Wikipedia, unlike Rasgulla have many definitive sources.".
utcursch | talk 01:56, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
What is the difference between List of most populous cities in India and List of cities and towns in India by population. The second one may have towns but cities are common in both. So, for the former one is there any limit in population as it mentioned most populous.--Vin09 (talk) 06:24, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
The Assam government has announced creation of 5 new districts. Maps of Assam as well as several articles on villages / towns will have to be updated. I don't know much about the geography of Assam. Hopefully more knowledgeable editors can update the articles. utcursch | talk 00:24, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
Hello India experts:
I came across the article about Ramanthapur while removing some spam, and was surprised to see that it has lists of individual stores and even ATM machines. I removed the external links to these places, but it seems to me that these whole sections should be removed. I've tagged it as advertising. Are there any objections to the contents of these sections being trimmed to only items with a Wikipedia article?—Anne Delong (talk) 09:19, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
Indian editors are request to participate in the Afd at Swami Premanand Ji Maharaj and give your desired opinion. Thanks! — CutestPenguinHangout 10:44, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Jat people in Mahabharata period looks like original research based on primary sources. There seems to be an assumption that jat and jartas are synonymous. Can this be fixed? If not then the article will either need to be deleted or redirected - there won't even be anything worth merging. - Sitush (talk) 09:39, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
BTW, books by Naval Viyogi and Bhim Singh Dahiya do touch on the synonymity but both have long been regarded as unreliable pseudo-historians etc. - Sitush (talk) 09:45, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Does anyone know what do the various abbreviations in these village names mean?
I know only two:
What about the rest?
These articles seem to be based on census records, which use abbreviated names. The articles should be moved to the actual, full names. utcursch | talk 02:22, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
Discussion to rename page Hyderabadi biriyani→ Hyderabadi Biryani is going on here. Thank you. --Human3015Send WikiLove 15:43, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
The official religion figures (Excel warning) for the 2011 census data have been released. A number of articles will need to be updated (e.g. Religion in India, Demographics of India etc.) utcursch | talk 15:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
Bhojpuri language § Politeness gives several contradictory values for the number of levels of politeness. See Talk:Bhojpuri language § Politeness for details. --Thnidu (talk) 02:17, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
Expert editors from India are requested to participate and give their opinion for Afd listed at ScoopWhoop. — CutestPenguinHangout 03:50, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
Dear, Indian Wikipedian through this I would like to draw your attention towards Draft:Thakur Singh Sandhanwalia, which is pending for a longer period of time. Please consider your contribution in improving the draft so that it can be moved to the main space article. Cheers! — CutestPenguinHangout 18:04, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
Input invited for this discussion. Note that despite the title of the linked section and the first few posts, the current debate is whether the Constitution of India's broad use of the term Hindu is worth mentioning in the lede of that article. See User:Kautilya3's and my posts towards the bottom of the section for two views on the subject. Abecedare (talk) 19:06, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
This source is used at Saranya Mohan to support a claim that she self-identifies as a nair. However, she also appears in the Kerala Iyers article. Can anyone translate, please? It may well be that the source doesn't even mention her caste but if it does then clearly both articles cannot be correct. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 10:27, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
After the block of some sock-puppets, the Rajiv Malhotra page seems to need some extra admin-attention. Thanks, Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 11:02, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Belated notification for three MfDs listed here. —SpacemanSpiff 03:59, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
This wikipedia article filled with nonsensical conjecture is the top result in Google News. Please trim it according to Wikipedia guidelines. At the very least remove the names of unrelated family members who has no connection to this event. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.51.21.196 (talk) 12:26, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
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Hi guys, can we change the wording at the top of the infobox for the states of India from "State of India" to just "State"? For example, Liaoning, it shows just "Province" but it links to the Provinces of China. It also might be mistaken for some as the official name of the state. For example, a while ago the Delhi article was incorrectly labeled "National Capital Territory of India" when it is officially the "National Capital Territory of Delhi". For U.S. states it gives the full title is put in the infobox, such as Alaska: the "State of Alaska", now wouldn't that be weird if it was labeled the "State of the U.S." or something like that? I tried to carry out the edits but Human3015 showed me that the correct way to do this is by achieving a community concensus here as it affects all the states/union territories of India.
TL;DR, can I make this edit on all of the states and union territories of India?Filpro (talk) 01:33, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello, India experts. This article was unintelligible, so I have rewritten the parts I could figure out and reorganized the sentences into some sort of order. However, some of the sections talk about things with which I am not familiar. I may have misinterpreted these. Can someone from this project take a look at it?—Anne Delong (talk) 01:17, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Thanks, Vin09. The article is much improved. I came across it while fixing up Gummadi Narsaiah. Can you or someone else here add the name of the political party to that article? Currently it only has the initials, which are not informative to someone not from India.—Anne Delong (talk) 06:28, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
Hey guys, does an article title change from "Gurmukhī alphabet" to just "Gurmukhi" seem fit? Gurkmukhi is not an alphabet, it is an abugida and there are no other uses for Gurmukhi as far as I know. Yes, abugida scipts and the other writing systems are sometimes labeled as "alphabets" but they are not alphabets when classifying scripts using the correct terms. For example, Devanagari isn't titled "Devanagari script" or "Devanagari alphabet".Filpro (talk) 15:22, 5 September 2015 (UTC)
I suspect that not many people outside the UK can see the BBC's India season, which is currently running on television in the UK. But they may have ways of getting hold of the content ;) There have been some good programmes, in particular about the railways (Mumbai and the frontiers), the Indus, and Kolkata. I'm loathe to see them used as sources but I do think that if anyone has the opportunity to watch the programmes then they might appreciate them. Obviously, it is television and subject to all sorts of biases ... but it has been very interesting so far. If only I could fly, I'd be out there. - Sitush (talk) 23:39, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello board, As you may be aware that for more than two years (might be 3 years too) I have been participating in this noticeboard, and trying to improve our WikiiProject (you may call it Indian English Wikipedia community too). Every now and then we used to talk on issues like:
I have jotted down a first draft of meta:WikiProject India Nurturing, that should attempt to address some of the problems and difficulties faced by this WikiProject.
Of course, it is in very basic stage, and it'll be improved gradually. Please feel free to ask questions or share your ideas. --Tito Dutta (talk) 05:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Thank you! Titodutta for being concerned about getting more users involvement on Wiki-project India. There are few things I would like to raise as a problem, which includes overtaking of IRC channel #Wikimedia-in by an Indian non-WMF based project and minimal participation of Indian editors and admins on IRC channels. Today, users and editors want instant response to their queries, where Wiki-project India is lagging behind. I would like to highlight following areas which can be a great way to gain maximum participation, these are-
Cheers! and thanks again! — CutestPenguinHangout 16:24, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
Here is a list of currently open requests for comments that would be of interest to project-members, and where their input would be appreciated:
Incidentally, does anybody know if the process of listing India-related RFCs has been or can be automated? Abecedare (talk) 00:29, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
I think what you did is great. I like the scroll bar, it condenses those lengthy Alerts and New content. Then all that's left for me to do is see if there's anything else useful to add there. ‑Ugog Nizdast (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello India experts. Here's another of those village draft articles that could use some TLC. I have done some copyediting, and found one reference. The material at the top is intended for an infobox, I think.—Anne Delong (talk) 21:27, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
There's a requested move discussion at Talk:Paperboy#Requested move (September 2015) where it seems important to determine whether "paperboy" always means a boy (or girl) who delivers newspapers to home subscribers (as currently asserted in Paperboy (newspaper delivery) article. And whether "newsboy" (also known as "newspaper hawker") always means a boy (or girl) who sells newspapers to non-subscribers at a street corner or on a train or the like. It seems there are no longer any newsboys in the United States (and maybe not in the U.K.). Some Indic participation at the requested move and/or your commenting here be greatly appreciated.
Do boys (or girls) sell newspapers on the street in India? And what are or were they called? And what are newspaper delivery-persons called? --doncram 22:31, 7 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello,
I would like to put a proposal for creation of dedicated Wikipedia project for Udaipur city in Rajasthan. We do have some good number of articles and many active users around this topic. This city already has a good name and fame around the globe, and we would love to bring more aspects of this city on Wikipedia. P.S.: Initially I thought that creating new Wikiprojects is a manual process conducted by end users (like me), so I also did some experiments with the desired Categories and Statistics tables. The Wikipedia project page for this topic Wikipedia:WikiProject Udaipur also started getting good response. But then I understood that this task has to be done by a pre-decided dedicated team. So request to initiate the process for creating a project for this topic. Vishal0soni (talk) 07:10, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm a part of two city based WikiProjects; WP Mumbai and WP Chennai. Both started out with great fanfare and activity, but today both are dead. In the case of Chennai, the four of us [Anbu121, Challengethelimits, Rasnaboy, and I, sometimes Vensatry] worked hard on articles for four months, but then the interest died down. Same happened for WP:INCOTM. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 06:10, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
I've recently come across this Lilavati's Daughters Edit-a-thon and wonder, is anything salvageable there? can any article or resource be used to create any of those 50 bios? The edit-a-thon happened in 2013 and am not sure how well did it end. @Rsrikanth05 and AshLin: I know both of you among the participants, what is the edit-a-thon's status? how did it go? did finding sources for those bios fail or does that remain to be checked? A few have been created though. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 11:27, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
These are in addition to the key resource, Lilavati's Daughters, which is available online here
Well what do you know, it looks like majority of it have been created. Some of it by the Edit-a-thon, some of it not. I've yet to check the remaining. -Ugog Nizdast (talk) 15:52, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Just wanted to remind all fellow India Project editors of the importance of the WP:STRONGNAT policy. This policy means topics related to India should use Indian English. This template can be added to talk pages of such articles: {{Indian English}} which appears as
while the hidden template {{Use Indian English}} can be used at the top of mainspace articles.
Possibly due to occasional use of translators, too often American English spelling is being used. It's important to resist this sort of spelling colonialism. Words to look out for:
AusLondonder (talk) 08:53, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
Please see Category_talk:Kashmiri_tribes#Purpose - need to sort this one out, and probably many other related categories. - Sitush (talk) 11:21, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Manjusri#Requested move 15 September 2015. Ogress 04:33, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
Please comment on Talk:Ksitigarbha#Requested move 15 September 2015. Ogress 04:46, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
An explosion in MP resulting in over 100 deaths has occured; 2015 Jhabua explosion. Please help me expand this so we can get it to ITN. -_Rsrikanth05 (talk) 13:48, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
Hello fellows! User: Ogress seems to have moved many articles and they were mostly undiscussed moves. I came to notice this because of the currently on-going discussion at Talk:Jñāneśvar. While many pages are under the WP:India purview, articles from other wikiprojects have also been moved. The list of moves is long and I have only mentioned some that I found to be falling under WP:India project. I suppose that these moves have been made of non-English words and were for Romanizing them, obviously keeping aside what WP:COMMONNAME is. It’s a big mess to clean one by one, given the involvement of Sanskrit, Tamil, Burmese, Nepali and other Asian languages. What should be done about this? Pinging some experienced editors who have knowledge of some of these aspects @SpacemanSpiff, Abecedare, and Titodutta:. I have dropped a message on user's talk page; but that was before I actually saw how many articles were affected. This needs a larger forum than user's talkpage. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
I don't know much about the policies at play here or the precedent for such moves, but as a Keralite, I'll have no idea who ton-cat Eluttacchan is (as opposed to Thunchaththu Ezhuthachan). I certainly wouldn't be able to identify him as the father of Malayalam at first glance even though I'm a native speaker. Just saying. 106.51.240.5 (talk) 09:20, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
List of the pages I suspect you actually object to
I have redacted the first list to the ones that aren't blatantly, unequivocally about misspellings immediately obvious from the MOS. Ogress 19:08, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
And when the native Indian spellings vary? Ātticcūṭi is romanised in a very large array of forms: Atichudi, Aatticudi, Aathichudi, Aatthichchudi... this is why we have a scholarly spelling system. 106.51.17.142, the form should be the same throughout the article. I can't help that there are three l sounds in his native language anymore than I can help there are multiple t sounds; that's why we use diacritics when romanising Indic languages, so that these differences aren't lost. Ogress 21:07, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
"This reminds me of a 2005 renaming" are you serious right now? What does that comment even mean? Ogress 01:11, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
All those fancy frills around the alphabets (e.g. Ā, ī , ṉ, ñ, Ś) when used in the title of the article are really useless. Other than few users who might be using European/other keyboards that have for example umlauts, I don't think that anyone can actually type these frills. They have to be copied from some or the other places. In such cases, readers would always reach the article through the non-frill redirect which we keep. When majority of users are going to reach the articles through plain redirects, why not move the article to such redirects itself? So how much so ever the IASTs or Kolkata Library or Lingustics experts or Romanization brigade wants to use these frills they are not useful for titles. In simpler words, article should be at the typable alphabet string of "Aathichoodi" rather than Ātticcūṭi. Is this not de facto applicable for all articles? Is it not written somewhere already in some naming policies? Or do we have to form consensus on this as well? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:07, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
@Dharmadhyaksha: You seriously don't understand how diacritics work, because your decision to move Śalākāpuruṣa to Salakapurusa and Paiśaci to Paisaci indicates you don't understand what you are talking about. If you aren't simply being intransigent, at least move them to Shalakapurusha and Paishachi. You can't just drop the diacritics. Also, Paiśaci is unequivocably the WP:COMMONNAME. Ogress 08:45, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
@Kautilya3: We can't say English transliterations as "incorrect" when reliable sources are using it. It can be POV of different people according to their background. We have to think about normal people who read Wikipedia. If English transliterations are incorrect then all real life names of Indian people written on their Birth certificate in English are Incorrect, because they are just transliterations. We can't say these are "incorrect". We can't go against sources, we have sources for both spellings. It is very simple fact that we should use names which have letters which exists on our keyboard. --Human3015TALK 09:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
Until recently, Aadhaar used to redirect to Unique Identification Authority of India. But, someone has created a parallel Aadhaar article. The new article focuses more on the system and its implement than on the UIDAI organisation, and legal issues. Please discuss whether they should be kept separate or merged. -Kenfyre (talk) 01:59, 17 September 2015 (UTC)
Does Shopping in Chennai article falls under WP:PROMOTIONAL WP:NOTTRAVEL?--Vin09 (talk) 07:12, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
As some of you may be aware the subject is in news again, and we are seeing edit-wars at the article. More experienced editor and admin eyes will be welcome. Abecedare (talk) 18:44, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
I'm trying to clean this page up. Can anyone tell me what the family name is? The page seems to have "Agha Shahid Ali" almost everywhere, so "Agha" or "Ali"?? Or it here another way the person should be referred to, it being an Indian BLP??
I already chose "Agha" as his sons' page, Agha Shahid Ali, refers to them being from the the "distinguished Agha family." [citation needed] Come and yell at me if I'm wrong! 220 of Borg 07:17, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Connected to my previous Agha Shahid Ali query, is this, "S.P College" (also S.P. College and S. P. College on numerous pages [19]), referring to Sir Parshurambhau College or Sri Pratap College? 220 of Borg 07:45, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
As a former MLA for Punjab, he is notable per WP:POLITICIAN, but sourcing may be a problem; any ideas? Also, the article needs a major rewrite. Any assistance welcome. JohnCD (talk) 14:33, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
Afd - PROD - Canvassing - clever IP - sock nominator blocked - Wall of text - Claims of paid editing - and Bollywood!! The best of Wikipedia dramas is on one stage this time and hence experienced editors are invited. §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 04:17, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
Does every out growth to a city or town (less than 1 lakh population) considered as urban agglomeration of that town or simply out growth as per this ref.--Vin09 (talk) 04:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
I have nominated Waheeda Rehman, Nargis, Meena Kumari and Madhubala for inclusion in Wikipedia:Vital articles/Expanded/People list. Feel free to add your opinions to the nomination page.--Skr15081997 (talk) 12:38, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
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This news story may be relevant to some articles. I'm not in a position to do much about it right now and I would urge people not to create an article just for this event ... but it is an interesting ruling that might have some worth as a sentence or two, somewhere. Then again, we should not make too much of a single event. - Sitush (talk) 23:14, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
I've nominated the article, Narendra Modi under Today's articles for improvement. Please give your views right there. Thank you ! — Sanskari Hangout 16:09, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Many many articles have sprung up related to Aligarh Muslim University and likely with Amity University as well. In recent past many of these have been taken to deletion (1, 2) or proposed mergers (1, 2) or boldly redirected to the parent page. User:TheRedPenOfDoom has done good job of cleaning a lot of them. but more hands would be welcome. You may notice that articles in Category:Departments of the Aligarh Muslim University have a plenty sources but none are inline and not all are RS. Also, the Category:Aligarh Muslim University alumni is flooded now but the List of Aligarh Muslim University alumni lacks references. Most probably the individual biographies also do not have references but are only categorized such. Hence dropping this note to have more editors help in. Btw, is these any fancy tool somewhere to find which articles have been added recently in a certain category? §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {Talk / Edits} 09:43, 22 September 2015 (UTC)
Hi,
I need help for creating Pole worship article in Bengali, Assamese, Odia, Kannada, Telugu language, and other Indian languages too.
I have already created articles in Marathi and Hindi wikipedia.
Thanks and Regards
Mahitgar (talk) 10:59, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
In en-wiki wordings 'sacred tree' and 'Tree worship' get diverted to article Trees in mythology. South asia section in the article is not yet sufficiently developed. I want to add interwiki links at wiki data of hi:अराध्य वृक्ष & mr:आराध्यवृक्ष but for some how I am in two minds. I wish some one else takes call on this aspect.
Rgds Mahitgar (talk) 08:33, 25 September 2015 (UTC)
I was 'cleaning up' the then unsourced 'Baran District' by restoring content deleted on 28 November 2012, thus restoring some sources.[20] But then I noticed the info box said city, not district. I now see that most of the text dumped into the District page back then[21] appears to have come from the City page. So it appears 1.187.173.132 (talk · contribs) was 'helpfully' attempting to move the city 'Baran, Rajasthan' to 'Baran'. And I may have made it worse as the restored text & sources seem to apply to a city, not a district. I think both pages may need major culling by someone more in the know on them than me. e.g. 'Baran, Rajasthan' has a population of "1,22,3,921" ?? :-/ 220 of Borg 13:18, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
The article on highest civilian award of the country is a current GA and is put for the peer review here. I would like to take it to FAC in the near future. Any comments/feedback/corrections/guidelines are appreciated. This would be my first attempt with FAC so I am looking forward constructive criticism. - Vivvt (Talk) 04:35, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
These articles are related to Mughals. These are based on old book written 19th century. Army of the Mughal Empire, Chela (Mughal army), Mughal weapons. Take a look on them.--శ్రీధర్ బబు (talk) 12:22, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
These articles are based on an centuries back old book. I think proper research needed in modern view. So please help to rewrite them.--శ్రీధర్ బబు (talk) 13:59, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
It's a big embarrassment for us that, almost 90% of people who creates facebook/auto-biography pages are from India. Let us patrol hard and spread the message. --Aamir Humshakal (talk) 14:48, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
For Municipal corporation, government type in infobox is written as Mayor–council government. Then, what about Nagar Panchayat which is headed by a Chairman?--Vin09 (talk) 07:19, 29 September 2015 (UTC)