Wikipedia talk:New user landing page

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To align with the left sidebar, {{Welcome}}, {{Talk header}}, etc., I propose that we change the "New to Wikipedia?" link to Help:Introduction. {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 18:28, 29 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Even after all the data presented that the 100 page tutorial losses 90 percent of readers on the first page? We have lost thousands of new editors because of your push to orpahn our normal help pages. The more you add this all over the more editors we loss. Just odd the data does entice you to try to fix the problem rather than perpetuating it.--Moxy- 01:23, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Moxy, you've opposed the effort to unify and consolidate our introductory help system at every single turn, and at every turn the community has moved forward regardless. It's exhausting having to refute your same flawed and poorly articulated arguments (which have not changed) again and again.

(As one new development, if you're curious about the decline in new user registrations, the WMF investigated that here and found no cause for concern.) {{u|Sdkb}} ^talk 02:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

100 percent correct....trying my best to stop the bad changes.....simply don't have the time to keep up with you. Data speaks for its self. It would be great if you would understand the basic problem. Again feel free to start your 1000 rfc.--Moxy- 02:05, 30 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Village pump (technical) § Proposed change to the behavior of Wikipedia:New user landing page. Matma Rex talk 23:01, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

This change is now live. (Announcement: Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)#Change to the behavior of Wikipedia:New user landing page.) Matma Rex talk 21:10, 24 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Comparing with {{No article text}} this page currently lacking:

• Links to search results (the langing page only encourage users to create new articles, not to search existing articles)
• Links to sister projects
• Information about who can create articles directly

Previous discussion: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)&oldid=1021932151#New_user_landing_page_should_link_to_search_results GZWDer (talk) 08:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]