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King of the Silver River

The article King of the Silver River was recently de-PRODed, after you PRODed it. I'm not very clear on how this is supposed to work, so suggest you take a look to see if it was removed appropriately. Cheers. N2e (talk) 14:39, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Rue Meridian

I have removed the prod tag you placed on Rue Meridian as it has been discussed at AfD and per policy is permanently ineligible for prod. I only did this to comply with policy and have no opinion one way or the other on the merits of deletion. If you still wish to pursue deletion, feel free to open another AfD. —KuyaBriBriTalk 20:12, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Merge done. The lack of a merge target has stalled the result of the AfD for 6 years - fixed. Widefox (talk) 10:26, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Done (where possible) Widefox (talk) 10:27, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

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Overlinking

I have just reverted your edit to the Bradley Manning article, per WP:OVERLINK. Please confine wikilinks to "relevant connections to the subject of another article that will help readers understand the article more fully". AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:17, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Agree a mixed bag, although you're throwing baby out with bathwater - see my edit summary, and feel free to discuss here / elsewhere Widefox (talk) 15:46, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

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Profound disagreements about disambiguation pages

Clearly, you and I have very different views of what disambiguation pages are for. I consider your "cleanup" efforts to be partly okay, but that you are destroying a lot of useful information. Talk:Oak (disambiguation) is one, and Talk:Albatross (disambiguation) is another. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:14, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I am confused - I thought we had just agreed to talk through these pages on you talk page. While I am preparing an answer on your talk page you've written here and on another talk page. I'm assuming you want to stay with the dialogue we have just agreed to on your page, and bear with me and continue this discussion on your talk page? rather than split this over many pages. Please Comment on content, not on the contributor (WP:NPA) - rather than making accusations about editors destroying your work, which could be seen as WP:OWN. Instead of focussing on editors with "profound" differences, you must reach consensus for your edit which goes against consensus on Albatross (disambiguation) which another editor and I agree is a partial match and should not be included. Widefox; talk 14:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
To be fair, while I was trying to explain it to you, you WP:CANVASed here [1] to get plant project editors to be on your side at Albatross (disambiguation). This isn't an interaction I wish to continue right now thanks. Widefox; talk 09:57, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Stop!

Stop alleging that User:Obsidian Soul was canvassed by me to the discussion of Oak (disambiguation) and Albatross (disambiguation) as you have just done once again with this edit and this edit. It has been fully explained on my talk page and at the ANI that you started that no such canvassing occurred. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 11:55, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Fully explained? Dennis Brown said your request "It wasn't a neutral request,...". which I asked you to do in keeping with WP:CANVAS. It was closed (correctly) before any input from me...so...I do deserve my viewpoint aired! ...what wasn't discussed was - what has aircraft on Albatross (disambiguation) got to do with Wikiproject Plants? It wasn't mentioned on your talk page, so Obsidian Soul can't have seen it there! That's not only non-neutral, but the wrong forum. Instead of trying to stop me from giving my point of view, can you understand my frustration that you did that while I was trying to understand about the scope of oak from you, and me trying to explain about problems with your DAB edits (we never use piped links - the one Obsidian Soul put back in). Although I overreacted, and I'm sorry, this was out of frustration trying to understand and help. I've said I don't want to interact with you in this way, its not collaborative when multiple Wikiproject Plants editors have arrived. You mention bullying on your page, and reverting your talkpage, neither of which is true, so just stop yourself as you've created a hostile environment for me to talk to you. No thanks. Widefox; talk 13:28, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

AfD

Hi. This may just me being paranoid, but is there any reason that almost all the AfD contributions you have made today are to nominations that I have made? Don't take this message as an attack, i'm just curious.--Donkey1989 - talk 12:48, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi Donkey1989, I understand completely. You have 38 edits and have AfD'ed a handful of articles, including the one I just edited Fido.net. This drew my attention. Widefox; talk 07:25, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I have been editing as an IP for quite some time, I guess I went over the top because i'd just got these new user priveleges. I'm also a tad OC, as you can probably tell. Sorry about that--Donkey1989 - talk 16:54, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
No problem. Welcome to your new account! Widefox; talk 17:19, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

DVI (disambiguation)

I have moved DVI to DVI (disambiguation) for you. However, I have not been able to move the other page to DVI, as you didn't specify what page it was, so I will leave you to do that. JamesBWatson (talk) 11:13, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

 Done Widefox; talk 01:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Serendipity

Hello Widefox. Not wanting to split this into three places, I responded to your comment on my talk page. IMHO if there is a known issue or concern we should take the links out, if not IMHO not. Sincerely, 00:45, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Replied there (User talk:North8000). Widefox; talk 01:17, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on To be or not to be (Shakespeare), requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done for the following reason:

R3 / clean after revert bad move / unnessesary disambig () already covered by redir

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 Done . (Twinkle bug - informing the deleting editor rather than the creating author) Widefox; talk 11:59, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Driver

Hi. Thanks for notifying me about the changes to Driver. I've decided to take a back seat on that one :-) SamuelTheGhost (talk) 13:29, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

to be or not to be

(snip) Pertin1x (talk) 22:48, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

moved article name discussion to Talk:To be, or not to be Widefox; talk 23:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Dominik Tiefenthaler

Dear Widefox, I see that you put a COI tag on Dominik tiefenthaler's article, and it has to be cleaned up, obviously. I really would like to keep this article up and not be removed. There is no IMDb ref on there anymore, and all the other information on there is all referenced with what I believe neutral websites with no UGC. The only thing I believe is not referenced (or only on IMDb and his Official Website...) is the section about his biography. Would it help to reference that to his official website www.dominiktiefenthaler.com, or is that not neutral enough? Is there anything else I can do to make this article be accepted, and not being taken down? Thank you!! I really do appreciate all the time and effort you have taken to help me. DmysM (talk) 21:31, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

...discussion copied to Talk:Dominik Tiefenthaler) Widefox; talk 15:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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 Done Widefox; talk 15:32, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

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Help

How come my name has been changed to 198.228.201.154. Before it was 173.54.17.249. Why did it change

Help me!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.54.17.249 (talk) 01:06, 7 January 2013 (UTC)

Just a quick note

Not that I'm debating the Proposed Deletion of No Fix, No Fee, ...

(cut and moved to Talk:No Fix, No Fee.) pls sign your comments btw. Widefox; talk 03:25, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, still a bit new to this. Thanks for the reply though. Funny Pika 13:42, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

No problem being bold. Widefox; talk 13:51, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for contributing

Hello my name is Srikanth aka (Raghusri). Thanks for increasing Column width in Firefox release history article dude. Have a lucky day and happy editing. Raghusri (talk) 12:05, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

Appreciate you dropping by to say thanks. Widefox; talk 13:02, 14 January 2013 (UTC)

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I suggest

That if you are to persist in violating Wikipedia policies regarding reliable sources, that you at least pretend to engage on the article talk page prior to mindlessly hammering a 'anti-vandalism' tool.

Cheers! 118.92.203.57 (talk) 20:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Can you point out which edit please, and which policy. Widefox; talk 21:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Morning hoss

Any intention to engage in article talk pages, before removing properly sourced information? I know you may not see this as you prefer the 'anti-vandalism game' to the 'improving Wikipedia' game, but how about some actual attempts to improve content, eh? 118.92.203.57 (talk) 20:45, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

Can you point out which edit please. Instead of focussing on my reversion of your edits, the burden is on you to justify your edits, and gain consensus for them. That should be done on the article page not here. Widefox; talk 21:12, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
Yes, and Wikipedia policy also states that 'anti-vandalism' tools should not be used to mindlessly remove proper edits. The burden is on you, the person replacing improperly sourced content in a BLP, to justify your misuse of these tools. 118.92.203.57 (talk) 21:29, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
You may be more persuasive if you indicate with edit diffs what you are talking about, else this appears like distraction from your edits to me. I note others are also reverting your edits, you would do best to seek consensus and word things neutrally or you may be banned by others. Widefox; talk 21:48, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
You would do best to follow Wikipedia policy. This is a good start. 118.92.203.57 (talk) 22:37, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
You may have a point, but unless you provide a single edit summary or something specific I can't tell. I asked twice above so I'm not asking again. Widefox; talk 22:57, 25 January 2013 (UTC)

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 Done Widefox; talk 15:16, 25 February 2013 (UTC)

Firefox TLS

Moved to Talk:Transport Layer Security#Firefox_TLS Widefox; talk 19:15, 26 February 2013 (UTC)

Unknown Gosfield North Communications Co-operative

Thanks for deleting some basic information about the company i work for. Fantastic — Precedingunsigned comment added by 199.83.200.58 (talk) 15:35, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

erh? Which article is that? Widefox; talk 19:22, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
Replied User talk:199.83.200.58, and see the now blocked account User:Gosfieldnorth. Widefox; talk 19:38, 28 February 2013 (UTC)

Escape from Furnace

Thanks for your revert on the Escape from Furnace page. Although it wasn't a big incident, its nice to know that people are watching out! Although I originally got that series for a brother of mine who is in his late 20's but reads at a high school level, I've read that series myself and loved it! Afterword I decided to do some work on the series' Wikipage. Anyway, thanks for being Johnny on the Spot on that one! AlaskaMike (talk) 23:00, 1 March 2013 (UTC)

FYI

{{BLP unsourced|section}} just adds an article tag instead of a section tag, despite the parameter. Please use {{BLP unsourced section}} instead. Thanks for your contributions! -- Patchy1 REF THIS BLP 21:03, 3 March 2013 (UTC)

oh you mean on Róisín Murphy, sure, thanks. Widefox; talk 08:29, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Reach for consensus

Since you are a listed member at Wikipedia:WikiProject Badminton I am inviting you to reach a consensus at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Badminton regarding the format of brackets for tournaments, particularly the Super Series competitions.--MorrisIV (talk) 15:44, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

 Done Widefox; talk 15:57, 5 March 2013 (UTC)

Douglas Adams

Unless I've misread something, we have "his love affair with the Apple Macintosh first began after first seeing an Apple Lisa at Infocom's headquarters in Massachusetts in 1983" in prose and then a direct quote of "I adore my Macintosh [and have] adored it since I first saw one at Infocom's offices in Boston in 1983." - I don't see that the article benefits from saying almost exactly the same thing twice.

Unrelatedly, the "(This must have been an Apple Lisa, since it is stated in the next paragraph that he bought the first Macintosh in Europe in 1984 - the year that they were released.)" comment immediately afterwards appears to be an editor's personal deduction. --McGeddon (talk) 17:23, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

Agree something needed doing...I cut down the change after reviewing...the editorialising after the quote had to go. I would lean towards removing the prose rather than the quote but I'm no quality article editor, so I'll leave those subtleties for others. Widefox; talk 17:40, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
On closer inspection it looks like they're actually quoting the same article, which was reprinted in Salmon of Doubt. I've merged them together and kept the fragment of the quote that seems most quotable. --McGeddon (talk) 17:49, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Great. That's why editors like me need editors like you! Widefox; talk 17:53, 11 March 2013 (UTC)

The quotation marks

Hi, Widefox.

For reasons that I can't explain the title of the book quoted was not showing up on the page. Then I removed the quotes around the title and the title did show up but at this time it was not italicized. Rewrote the quotes and italics reappeared. Since I do not believe in magics, I guess there was some unwanted space between the quotations.

Oraola (talk) 00:18, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Can't see any space. Both before and after rendered OK in my browser just now. I did have something similar earlier today, so may be a server bug (or possibly client). Widefox; talk 00:46, 12 March 2013 (UTC)

Recent Changes

(moved to User talk:98.24.160.44) Widefox; talk 22:00, 14 March 2013 (UTC)

Thank you.

I understand now why that edit was considered vandalism. Please forgive my son he was only trying to help. Thanks again Mr/Mrs. Widfox. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.24.160.44 (talk) 20:29, 15 March 2013 (UTC)

If you carry on like this you will be blocked. I suggest creating an account to edit. Widefox; talk 14:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

My Recent Edit

Hi Widefox. I added a few more information about the galaxy s4 about its made quality and specified operating system and added a source for that information. Every time I add some information to the article, that information is removed from the article and you are saying that I am involved in soapboxing, promotion or advertising, can you please tell me why can't I add a reference to a point that I made into the article? Again in the article of Sony Xperia Z, how the link I inserted is considered as a spam?Mesuperstar (talk) 03:28, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

(moved to bottom of page) On Samsung Galaxy S4, the reference added is not a WP:RS. Other edits on other articles have been removed or modified due to issues such as WP:NOPRICES. By using the same unreliable source website, it appears that you are promoting it, hence the warning. Thanks Widefox; talk 14:52, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for being a vandal fighter.--I dream of horses @ 03:31, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the nice message! Well done yourself for your vandal work too! Widefox; talk 11:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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Liquefaction (disambiguation)

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replied there, thanks Widefox; talk 10:52, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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What page were you planning to move here? ⇌ Jake Wartenberg 16:30, 4 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks. Widefox; talk 10:44, 5 April 2013 (UTC)

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At least I didn't revert your warning lol --Borvo (talk) 14:06, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

WTF?

What I hell's name are doing at my talkpage? 3rr also applies to you --Borvo (talk) 14:14, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I was restoring so it would be easier for admins to see it, as I've reported your editing. I ask you not to comment here again, thanks. Widefox; talk 14:18, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
Why did you report me? I am new here, just give me some time to learn. --Borvo (talk) 14:21, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Blanking

Well, glad the warning has been taken back, I do take your point though. Templating the regulars when I abandoned undoing my own edits seems a little harsh. Widefox; talk 14:46, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

Osw1

(moved to Osw1) Widefox; talk 14:09, 9 April 2013 (UTC) (all discussion moved to above place) Widefox; talk 14:31, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

I have left a comment for you on my talk page. Osw1 (talk) 16:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)

Chavez

I'd just like to thank you for referring to the Chavez death article in discussing the Thatcher one, thereby acknowledging my work there. I won't interfere with the 'growth phase' of the latter. Perhaps I will manage the 'consolidation phase' in a few months. Regards, -- Ohconfucius ping / poke 10:06, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome! A pleasure to see good work being done. Widefox; talk 10:26, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

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Undos to my edits.

How is it constructive to call a political ad an attack ad? Or, to use a partisan news article for a reference? The article on Ashley Judd shows bias against conservative politics and ideas. Anyone seeing the YouTube video of the ad can decide for themselves if it is an attack, or an accurate reference to Ashley Judd's ideology. Redo my edits at once! -- User:Brianhd71

reply at User talk:Brianhd71. Message to the next editor what comes here about undos - read the top notice first. Widefox; talk 10:02, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

COI editor detection (Bitcasa)

Hey there, I noticed that you figured out an editor was formerly called 'Bitcasa'. That's so cool, you're like Wiki CSI or something... How did you figure that out?! I want to learn more about the various tools, etc. Thanks :) Synergee (talk) 03:31, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

I put the details at Talk:Bitcasa. Widefox; talk 23:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Ashley Judd Talk Page

So, labeling a political ad is my personal opinion? It is now a fact that American Crossroads launched an attack ad? You are so far left, you can't see straight. Go ahead and block me. I'll remember that come December when you are looking for donations. You, Widefox are the reason scholars can't trust Wikipedia as being credible.Brianhd71 (talk) 17:54, 16 April 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brianhd71 (talkcontribs)

replied talk Widefox; talk 18:23, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Some baklava for you!

Thanks for all your help at Bitcasa and for everything you do to make WP better! KeithbobTalk 23:25, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Student Research Training Program

I have removed the PROD on this article as you did not provide a rationale; please take to WP:AFD. GiantSnowman 11:18, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

 Done Widefox; talk 12:28, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Go fuck yourself WIDEFUX You aren't an editor. Your just some cheap Wiki hack. Brianhd71 (talk) 16:51, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Autopatrolled


Hi Widefox, I just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature will have no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! INeverCry 17:10, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

Well thanks very much! Widefox; talk 17:12, 23 April 2013 (UTC)

McDonald's advertising

Hi Widefox,

I don't understand why you erase the thing I wrote about Alexandre Desapties and McDonald's. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald%27s_advertising#Current_campaign) There's my source: http://www.mcdonalds.ca/ca/en/communities/sports_sponsorships/alexandre_despatie.html

Thank You Have a good day

Feel free to add back in, but this time include that source, and the same (list) formatting, and provide an edit summary. The combination of missing those things means it was indistinguishable from a test edit or vandalism. Now you have an account it's easier too. oh, btw it's customary to sign talk pages and again provide an edit summary. Hope that helps, and there's more help I posted on your talk page. Widefox; talk 00:42, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

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cypenamine correction

Hello

I keep trying to correct a statement on this page which says "the trans isomer is more active than the racemate".

This statment should be deleted as it makes no sense at all (I KNOW WHAT I`AM TALKING ABOUT)!!. REPEAT IT MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL

But it keeps getting changed back, WHY???

This is not vandalism!

I do not know what bio-physicists study but this is basic first year chem stuff.

I am not a registered user and do not know the ins and outs of Wikipedia etiquette.

I am just trying to be helpful here!!

If this statement is actually in the literature reference I would be very surprised and it would still not make it correct.

I have thus started a new talk section about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.109.127.168 (talk) 04:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

I did explain over and over (its so simple and explained in the sterochemistry section directly below which I explained over and over its like 2+2=4 ). 

You should not mess with subjects you do not understand.--122.109.127.168 (talk) 10:42, 5 May 2013 (UTC) How was my comments to you disruptive (I thought they were informative and polite!!)--122.109.127.168 (talk) 10:57, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

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D-Cubed page improvement

Hi Widefox, I'd like to improve the quality of a page that you flagged as being in need of footnotes/inline citations. I've made some suggestions on its talk page. Do my suggestions address the issue you flagged? I hope I'm taking the right approach contacting you - I work for Siemens so I'd rather not just wade in and make changes! Please leave a message on my talk page if you'd like to discuss further. Thanks! Jon Rimmer (talk) 09:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

I commented on the talk page after reviewing the article and edits. Widefox; talk 12:07, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
(indent) Thanks for the quick feedback and advice. I'll take a close look and respond asap Jon Rimmer (talk) 17:18, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome, I notice that related article(s) are notable but lack the secondaries, so feel free to add them too. Widefox; talk 17:30, 28 May 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion declined: Sapphire Software

Hello Widefox. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Sapphire Software, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 does not apply to software. Thank you. Salvio Let's talk about it! 16:44, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

OK, I prodded it, all the other articles created by that user has been CSDed, so let's hope WP:SNOW prevails. Widefox; talk 00:03, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Robert Stuart Nathan entry

(moved to Talk:Robert Stuart Nathan) Discussion of articles best on their own talk page. Widefox; talk 11:43, 29 May 2013 (UTC) (restored deleted section heading/reply by User:RSN813)

Dear Widefox, I tried to send you a lengthy reply to you incorrect assumptions and multiple misstatements of fact. When I posted it, it vanished. Just disappeared in an instant. Perhaps that instant erasure says it all -- all one has to know about how Wikipedia is edited. This might explain a great many mysterious things -- for example, how airbrushed biographical sketches of some of the most heinous people in society remain in Wikipedia untouched. Your questions and statements about my biographical sketch were all wrong or implicitly dishonest; in particular, if you are going to make accusations of "self-published" sources, perhaps you should explain what you mean. That is simply a flat-out lie. This entire experience is another discouraging example how Wikipedia is run. If you insist on demeaning the accuracy of my biographical sketch, with apparently no knowledge of American publishing, the entertainment industry, or reliable sources, perhaps I should reconsider this entire enterprise. I assume you do know that in the end your behavior is not merely shameful, it is, under American law, nearly libelous. Robert Nathan (unsigned by User:RSN813)

(talk page stalker) I have replied to this comment at User talk:RSN813. --Drm310 (talk) 22:49, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
Editor Drm310 correctly pointed out here that they added the "self-published" sources tag with this edit. It was not me. Was the comment intended for that editor? I'm sorry you are frustrated with your Wikipedia experience, and there is a known path this is going down of a person not familiar with the intricacies of Wikipedia trying to (arguably justifiably) report (or fix) something with their own WP:BLP. It is better to have an insight into that path, so I will look for an example. Widefox; talk 15:22, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
Given the latest [2], do you think it's now something for WP:DRN? (unsigned by User:Drm310)
Both of you, if you leave a message here, please sign it. Drm310 WP:ANI is the right place, I will post. Widefox; talk 01:53, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

(moved to Talk:China Marine Surveillance) Dear Widefox, I appreciate your help on improving CMS articles I created. But CMS is a civil administration agency instead of an armed forces branch. The name should be East China Sea Fleet to distinguish itself from East Sea Fleet of PLA Navy. SummerRat (talk) 16:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(reply on article content on its own talk page). Widefox; talk 18:29, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

(another article content discussion moved to the article talk page) Widefox; talk 21:56, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

OVPsim Page

Hi Widefox, Is it possible to get the content of the OVPsim page that was deleted into my userspace so that I can work on it? thanks Duncgrah (talk) 10:08, 30 May 2013 (UTC)

Yes we've been waiting for you, so now you've asked at User_talk:Kww#Your AfD closure - OVPsim, the closing admin said they'd consider it. I'm not an admin so can't myself (and would still be the closing admin's role even if I was). Widefox; talk 11:05, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
I have been away from Wiki for a bit (obviously) so missed your WP:TBACK - I tend to dip in and out as time an priorities allows. I'm glad this one has got sorted, I don't like to see people loose their work. As regards to WP:SPA maybe I did misinturpret your comments, however it seems to me that too often round here SPA = bad (WP:COI, WP:PROMO, WP:SOAP etc) before any real assessment of the users contributions has been made. Anyway I hope that User:Duncgrah will wish to contribute in other areas as well some day and no longer be a SPA. --wintonian talk 00:48, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
No prob, I see transparency with SPA / COI editors as beneficial for all parties, and the earlier the better. The issue of biting newcomers, or perceived negative labels is tricky to solve, but that should be taken up with the guideline/templates rather than with editors that use them (I believe) correctly. Widefox; talk 19:03, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Aaron Swartz, ref cols

At Aaron Swartz, with regard to (References: ref cols) edit of 11:41, 31 May 2013, I am not understanding the reason for the edit. --Dervorguilla (talk) 06:57, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

For info on columns see Template:Reflist#Columns, a fixed no (2 in this case) of columns isn't scalable with browser window widths. Widefox; talk 13:51, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

PRiSM listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect PRiSM. Since you had some involvement with the PRiSM redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Widefox; talk 18:43, 14 June 2013 (UTC)

Hmmm, an automated message from myself to myself! Widefox; talk 11:04, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

SummerRat

You don't need to drop a note on SummerRat's page every time he socks. He's already aware of the fact that it's against the rules, and putting the notice there kind of highlights him (in his mind) "getting away with" editing, at least temporarily. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:56, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. My reasoning was of transparency rather than for him. Widefox; talk 11:03, 17 June 2013 (UTC)

OWASP

Hello Widefox,

Please accept my apologies for the incivility shown by previous members of OWASP the vast majority are good people. I think that once a community gets past a certain size however, you do get a few people on the fringes as it were. I would really like to ensure that OWASP has a page in good standing that is of use to readers of Wikipedia. Incidentally, we have six strong UK chapters. Please reach out so we can discuss how to get things into better shape. DennisGroves (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 16:38, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

(title my own "OWASP - COI, advert -> vandalism" comment moved from unsigned comment at top of this page)
Hi Widefox, you should first learn about security then start to make changes in Wikipedia, by looking at your tweets it's clear that you are using your this Wikipedia account for your own promotional purposes and making changes what according to you seem to believe.(review your changes to all security products against COI). (unsigned by User:117.198.19.68/User talk:117.198.19.68)

Maybe you should try teaching me security, and I'll try teaching you English ;) Seriously, you need a WP:CLUE to edit here, I undid your edits for the bad English and incorrect removal of maintenance templates. Next time you feel like scribbling on my page with bizarre WP:OUTING violating creepy comments, please do so at the bottom, and sign it. Thanks Widefox; talk 12:33, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Qwyrxian I presume you're watching my page, that amused me slightly that I got an edit conflict with you on OWASP as we fixed the EXT at the same time! Do you know why the url (on the talkpage, and EXT) was blacklisted? Widefox; talk 13:20, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
Yeah, I am watching your talk page, from when I left the message wrt SummerRat. When I see random IPs flinging around insults, I take a look, when I have time. Finding an article badly in need of pruning, I figured I'd do some initial cutting. As for the blacklisting, you'd have to check the talk page archives at WP:BLACKLIST. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:30, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

== I don't know if this is the appropriate place to discuss this == Widefox, you just posted a puzzling message on my page(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Viybel). I asked a question in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:OWASP (read it here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk%3AOWASP&diff=523681550&oldid=515811278) about why a website is blacklisted and you're accusing me of spamming Wikipedia??? From what I remember (it was 8 months ago), I found a page on a website useful and I was just curious to know what rules were involved in blacklisting it. I could not care less wether or not this link is on Wikipedia, I don't know anything about the site and I'm just vaguely interested in the subject. But I found your message on my page particularly aggressive. I suppose it is a template message for spammers. You should either rephrase it so that non-spammers don't find it insulting, or use another message for cases where the user deserves the benefit of the doubt. I hope this behavior does not reflect the whole Wikipedia community's tone. Vianney

Thanks for your apology. You can delete this previous message Viybel (talk) 16:36, 19 June 2013 (UTC)

Land Reform Ordinance

At your suggestion I have posted Land Reform Ordinance at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2013 June 20. Incidentally, I did not find any original research in the Kerala Education Bill, 1957 article, but there were a large number of books and articles where it was discussed. I tried to be selective in documenting the article. I tagged the one sentence that seems to be opinion as needing citation. --Bejnar (talk) 04:59, 20 June 2013 (UTC)

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Edit warfare

I've got a message on my page. Who's the one in "war" with my edits? Should i remove the "Undid" string in the "Edit Summary" to solve the problem? If it was a genuine message (and so you're not a bot) this mean that it's supposed to be YOU the one i'm "in war" with. Please note that i modified all my edits (LESS chars/lines AND the text is LOWER in the section, now) according to what were your arguments. I cant see the same action by you. You're only UNDOing my edits, without posting useful advice/critics. 87.2.112.110 (talk) 17:22, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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why? isnt it better if you write here?87.2.112.110 (talk) 17:27, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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Hello Widefox -- thanks for cleaning up the Oxford sex gang article. I'm still learning Wiki-code and left the article in a bit of a mess. CurrentUK (talk) 09:18, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

I would normally say "my pleasure" but I think I'll stick with "you're welcome". Widefox; talk 09:24, 4 July 2013 (UTC)

TLS - need a ref for this, plus is it just 8.1 or also W7? and are they off by default?)

No ref yet. I am just testing preview and noticed that it eventually turned on. It is ON by default without any conditions. IE11 is only for W8.1, so there it is not applicable for W7 or W8. Only W8.1 (unsigned comment by User:Chaliy 08:02, 6 July 2013)

(Moved to article talk page Talk:Transport Layer Security) please sign your talk page comments, thanks Widefox; talk 12:32, 6 July 2013 (UTC)

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Banjo Newsletter

Dear Widefox: I have been editing the Banjo Newsletter article, and I believe that I have dealt with the issued for which you tagged it last year. I am not connected with the proprietors, and I have managed to find independent confirmation of everything except the name of the software used to play music on the web site, and I don't think that this is very controversial. I even rewrote some sentences which had been copied from a published article about the newsletter. Would you agree to having the tags removed? —Anne Delong (talk) 05:17, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

 Done. Thanks for the nice message, and well done Anne Delong! Widefox; talk 11:14, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

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TLS

comment by Yellow Lilt (talkcontribs) 01:23, 18 July 2013 (UTC) moved to Talk:Transport Layer Security Widefox; talk 11:19, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

there's no need to post here too, moved Talk:Transport Layer Security Widefox; talk 05:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

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Plant common names

I came across your comments from September 2012 at Talk:Grey oak, and made some of my own comments there, then came across the broader context you saw at the time at Talk:Oak (disambiguation). Ugh. Looks like you were butting heads with WikiProject Plants people (which I'd describe myself as). And I've butted heads with WikiProject DAB people (which I'm thinking I could fairly describe you as). Dealing with ambiguous common names for plants is messy. My sense is that SIAs are usuallt more appropriate than DABs for plant common names cases (but sometimes DABs are unavoidable). A recent request at Template_talk:Disambiguation#Edit_request_-_use_disambiguation-specific_category_names suggests a change that could more clearly distinguish DABs and SIAs about plant common names. Plantdrew (talk) 04:54, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

Erm yes. As my participation got off on the wrong foot due to my attempt to have a one on one (if I remember correctly), this is best discussed at Talk:Oak (disambiguation). Certainly before commenting again, I'd have to review the whole thing as if I remember correctly other editors had proposals to fix the logjam. The goal of keeping DAB pages small, consistent, with reasonable entries (rather than authoritative ones) and focussed on navigation, necessitates pressure on all the different projects/editors (including some of my favourites personally and professionally like biology). Widefox; talk 10:43, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

D-Cubed page citations

Hello Widefox

Sorry, I've been away from Wikipedia for a while. Thanks again for your feedback on the D-Cubed page. As I understand it, to establish notability, we should keep all the external links to academic papers as you suggest, but add (subscription required) where appropriate (plus I have a fix for 1 broken external link). Then the inline citations I proposed on the talk page could be added (only one of these is secondary - I hope this is sufficient). I would like to double-check with you whether this is something I can do myself though. I haven't made any direct edits because as you've observed, I'm employed by Siemens who develops the D-Cubed software. I disclose this and refrain from making direct edits to try and ensure I don't violate WP policies. Regarding the conflict of interest and related policies that you referenced, I fully recognise the concerns and would like to clarify my intentions - although my purpose for engaging in Wikipedia is (currently) limited, I am genuinely trying to improve quality and help verify notability for this page by supplying citations/external links that were requested by the Wikipedia community. I do not plan to revise content. Please let me know if I can provide more information. Thanks. Jon Rimmer (talk) 17:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

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This is in response to the recent comments made on the John Babcock (musician) article. I'd like to clear up a few things, the first being the "close connection" issue. Regardless if I am related to the person in question, I am the one who maintains and keeps his article current. I feel this is a needless concern and should be dismissed. The information in this article is without bias, or COI in this case, as all the information in the article is comprised of information previously provided from various sources, largely off the internet. Having that been said, it's highly unlikely that any secondary sources will attempt to further edit or update the information on Wikipedia. I do understand the need for varying sources, though my hands are pretty much tied (at least for now).

I'd like to ask the probability of the article getting removed any time soon so I may document the information therein. Furthermore, I'd appreciate the "close connection" portion of the maintenance template to be removed as I've explained all the information is not personal views or bias, but information received from multiple third parties which assisted in the completion of this article.

In addition to that, I don't understand how the article features "intricate detail". The amount of information isn't even a lot compared to many other articles. The information also helps in the notability department of which you're concerned, so any elaboration on what's excessive would be helpful. (-unsigned by User:MegaMacX/User talk:MegaMacX )

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Hi, would you please be able to point me to the part of MOSDAB that requires you to do this http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=ROO&curid=38069391&action=history ? Thanks! Azylber (talk) 21:13, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

See WP:DPAGE Widefox; talk 21:26, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
cool, thanks Azylber (talk) 11:05, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 14 August 2013

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Hi Widefox. I added the inline citations and updated the reference section on the D-Cubed page. I left the issues in the header panel alone, but if you're satisfied that we could remove any of these, please let me know. Thanks, Jon Rimmer (talk) 14:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I saw your note about adding independent sources to the Article for Deletion discussion and I've started looking into this. Some sources may be offline and may take a couple of days to track down, but I will respond before the end of the week. Thanks. Jon Rimmer (talk) 16:11, 13 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Widefox, I've added some additional secondaries to the D-Cubed AfD page and obtained some citation counts for the academic references. Due to current concerns about SPA/COI, I haven't made any direct changes to the D-Cubed page yet. Please let me know if I ought to anything else at this stage. Thanks.Jon Rimmer (talk) 15:38, 15 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Widefox. Deletion of the D-Cubed components article is still under discussion and I wondered whether you would like to comment on whether the references I posted are sufficient or not. I since found some additional references about their use in academic projects which I think shows how widely they're known/used, but they're often only brief mentions and I don't want to clutter the discussion with lots of short references - I'm happy to post these on my talk page if you think it's worthwile. Since the technology is specialised and integrated into bigger systems, it isn't often covered in a lot of depth by commentators, even though it's more notable in its field. Speaking of which, if the article won't stand, I was thinking about developing a new stub for the field of research/technology itself (geometric constraint solving). This has plenty more references as a field of research in its own right. Thanks.Jon Rimmer (talk) 15:57, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Hi Widefox - thanks for your feedback on the above and the useful suggestions. Jon Rimmer (talk) 16:13, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 21 August 2013

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If the merger you proposed at hendl goes through, the target for the merge will be the actual article at roasting, not the redirect at roast. So just to let you know, I've moved both your merger template and your talk page rationale to the correct place. Bearcat (talk) 17:35, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks that fixes what happens when you try to be clever to show the validity of the merge with a redirect, resulting in obfuscating the merge target. Widefox; talk 17:49, 31 August 2013 (UTC)

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After media praise for Wikipedia's decision to move the Bradley Manning article to Chelsea Manning, the reversion of that page move on August 31, after a discussion in which several hundred Wikipedians participated, has so far triggered less favourable feedback, as well as a blog post from Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner expressing her disappointment with the decision.
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A news-heavy week offers some insight, perhaps, into humanity's priorities.
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The Signpost: 11 September 2013

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While the Syrian Civil War crept its slow way into the minds of the public, with a new fourth related entry in the top 25, the top 10 remained dominated by celebrity, mainly sports and music. Two megabucks transfers stimulated public interest in football/soccer ahead of the 2014 FIFA World Cup qualifiers, while Lil Wayne's public apology ahead of his latest album release sent him to the top.
Discussion over the Manning title dispute was off to a running start as evidence and workshop phases continued in the Bradley/Chelsea Manning naming dispute. The Infoboxes case closed with topic bans for two users, and a recommendation for community discussion of infoboxes.

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Thirteen articles, six lists, and five pictures were promoted to "featured" status last week on the English Wikipedia.
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The top 10 is bookended by unlucky dates, as Friday the 13th fell just after the anniversary of 9/11. Breaking Bad's final season continued to draw attention, while interest in Miley Cyrus's youthful exuberance is fading only slowly.

White Widow (terrorist)

What's up Widefox? Due to the Nairobi thing the name of the White Widow has been speculated but not conclusively proved as being involved. As an assist to people trying to look who the person is and what has been known and proved about her up to the time, a link has been put in to refer directly to Samantha Lewthwaite where the opening line itself reads lso known as Sherafiyah Lewthwaite or the White Widow, is the widow. Not many people would be immediately aware of Samantha/Sherafiyah's name but would want to see what is up with White Widow.Foofbun (talk) 22:40, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi Foofbun, I replied on your page. Widefox; talk 08:40, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

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On 30 September, Wiki Loves Monuments (WLM), the Wikimedia community's global photo competition, will reach to the end of its submission period. The proceedings have been underway since the first of this month; national juries will start reviewing submissions for the first round of selections after it closes ... Community aggravation with one of the Wikimedia Foundation's signature initiatives, the VisualEditor, came to the fore again this week with the announcement and implementation of code blocking the tool.
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Cairo Festival City

I eliminated the copyvio text in Cairo Festival City and added some references. I think the article is okay now, so I removed the speedy. Eastmain (talkcontribs) 11:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, good job - it's looking better now. I msgd you on the talk there. Widefox; talk 12:08, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Sky Blues

Hi, I've put my thoughts down re possible future of Sky Blues at Talk:Sky Blues.--A bit iffy (talk) 20:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll reply there. Widefox; talk 21:57, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

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If you're living in the United States, what did you do during the government shutdown? Well, it seems most people watched the final episode of Breaking Bad.
This week, we moved to the esoteric world of Australian roads.
Seven articles, six lists, and twelve pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
An investigation by the English Wikipedia community into suspicious edits and sockpuppet activity has led to astonishing revelations that Wiki-PR, a multi-million-dollar US-based company, has created, edited, or maintained several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients using a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts.
The University of California, San Francisco attracted substantial media attention over its new course offering that will give credit to fourth year medical students for editing Wikipedia articles about medicine.
A proposed decision has been posted in the Manning naming dispute. The workshop phase of the Ebionites 3 case closes 13 October. Arbitrator NuclearWarfare has resigned.

Bucketheads

Hi Widefox - I've added (probably too long) a comment at Talk:Buckethead (disambiguation). Apologies if it sounds grumpy - it wasn't intended to be (you just caught me when I was tired). Grutness...wha? 14:17, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I replied there. Personally I think this place is very complicated to edit nowadays as it's matured, so much so that it takes specialists to get anything done, and almost everything runs risk of falling foul of some guideline. Widefox; talk 21:56, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
Looks like everything's pretty much sorted out - thanks for the clarifications. Grutness...wha? 23:34, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for being patient, and successfully adding sources, regards Widefox; talk 20:26, 12 October 2013 (UTC)

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...a discussion that you would be wise to drop out of. Continually calling for a block again and again is the surest way to get the overall report ignored with no action being taken. Also note: if you personally are using wordpress other similar links, stop and remove them ASAP or else you have nothing to be complaining about :-) ES&L 10:59, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
Be quiet about blocking - yes, point taken. My involvement in the article is simple - I haven't added any EXT or refs to the article. Period. ([4] says my first edit was 2013-09-21 this uncontroversial quick formatting fix. Only after being strangely reverted did I notice and remove the multiple EXT to the same (commercial product) site per WP:ELNO 4. and WP:ELPOINTS 4 . IP editor is referring to my talk page comment [5] where I'm trying to evaluate importance of why ERPXE has been added previously...where I say "EXT don't need sources either -see WP:EXT". My first talk page edit being the one before that [6] where I fillout the wikiproject. I neither know nor care about any of these projects, apart from PXE and iPXE which my only connection with is that I use them both daily, and would be considered an expert - which I've not felt the need to say until now :) Widefox; talk 22:33, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
The real question for WP/this article is how seemingly tolerant of this one commercial promo EXT it has been since February when despite the good work of User:COIBot/LinkReports/vercot.com, Billinghurst and Matthiaspaul have removed these links and in October they were still here. Widefox; talk 23:07, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
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Media coverage on Wiki-PR, the multi-million-dollar US-based company that has broken several policies and guidelines on the English Wikipedia in its quest to create and maintain thousands of articles for paying clients, continued this week with a feature story by Martin Robbins in the British edition of Vice magazine.
A slow week, with low overall views and the Top 10 dominated by longstanding pages. Gravity, Alfonso Cuaron's outer space-set action art film, not only held its position at the top of the US box office but climbed to the top of the Wikipedia chart as well, showing that it has become a major talking point.
This week, we studied coats of arms and flags with the folks at WikiProject Heraldry and Vexillology. Started in September 2006, the project has grown to include 20 Featured Articles and nearly 50 Good Articles. The project maintains a portal, a list of resources, and a variety of images and templates.
Six articles, two lists, and thirty-three pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
The Manning naming dispute case has closed, with a strong and unanimous statement by the Committee against disparaging references to transgendered persons. Sanctions were enacted against six editors.
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Try SPI

I seen your reports at AIAV, however you could use WP:SPI to report those vandals you know?! ///EuroCarGT 01:29, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Sure can, AIV quicker for me - SPI more effort with evidence. Not obvious which is the bigger problem so went with initial problem. Widefox; talk 01:41, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2013

The next twice-yearly round of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) grantmaking is soon to close for community questioning and commentary. Ten nation-based Wikimedia chapters and one thematic organisation are asking for a total of more than US$5M of donors’ money from the Foundation’s renamed annual plan grant process. Aside from Wikimedia UK ($708k), the three biggest asks are from the German-speaking chapters: Wikimedia Germany is asking for $2.4M and Wikimedia Austria $311k; and the German-language-related Swiss chapter is applying for $500k.
Media, sports and Google Doodles dominate, though a very odd fish decided to crash the party.
Twelve articles, four lists, and four pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week, including the article on cabbage.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
MIT Technology Review published a long article on what it called "The decline of Wikipedia". Editor involvement has decreased since 2007; according to the article, this has had an adverse qualitative effect on content, particularly on issues pertinent to non-British and American male geeks.
This week, we headed to an elementary subject with WikiProject Elements. Founded by Mav in 2002, this project has grown to have 19 featured articles, 2 featured topics, and 68 good articles. The project also has a list of templates, and a periodic table of elements filled with pictures.

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The Signpost: 30 October 2013

The top 10 encapsulates the history of human aviation; at #1, a Google Doodle celebrating the 216th anniversary of the first parachute jump; at #10, the enduringly popular scifi film Gravity, a paean to human spaceflight. It's odd to think it's taken us 200 years to travel about that many miles up.
While giving a speech on behalf of a gubernatorial candidate, Paul advocated his pro-life position, and compared allowing unrestricted abortions to the film Gattaca. He went on to use strikingly similar language and phraseology in his speech to what the Wikipedia page reads. The Washington Post's article conceded that Wikipedia is a widely used source for trivial information, but mocked the fact that a politician would view it as a reliable source.
In January we raised several potentially troublesome issues for the Wikimedia movement in taking on Wikivoyage, including the apparent inadequacy of the English Wikivoyage sex-tourism policy, hurriedly strengthened against mention of child sex after our inquiries. However, both sex-tourism and illegal-activities policies remain equivocal about how the site should treat entries about sex tourism more generally, and drugs that are classed as illicit in almost every country. Yet the Signpost has found it remarkably easy to locate material in Wikivoyage that violates both the spirit and the letter of the policies.
This year's WikiCup competition has finished, while three articles, five lists, and six pictures, were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
Laura Stein, a researcher at the University of Texas at Austin, has concluded that, based on her comparison of user policy documents (including the Terms of Service) of YouTube, Facebook and Wikipedia, Wikipedia offers the highest level of participation power overall.
With Halloween, the Day of the Dead, and other gloomy celebrations this week, we're taking a look at Wikipedia's dead and dying. For some dead WikiProjects, the sole purpose of their life was simply to serve as a warning to others. Some of these projects may still be salvageable, but for most, a revival is unlikely. Here are some projects that never got off the ground and the lessons that can be gleaned from their follies

The Signpost: 06 November 2013

As part of the second major "outing" controversy to hit the English Wikipedia in less than a year, the Chelsea/Bradley Manning naming dispute was dragged into the spotlight yet again when the English Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee ruled by motion to remove the administrator tools from and ban long-time Wikipedia contributor Phil Sandifer.
It's fair to say that commemorating death was a strong theme this week, with Lou Reed's passing generating interest, as well as a Google Doodle celebrating the costume designer Edith Head. And of course, the world's greatest celebrations of the dead, Halloween and the Day of the Dead, were also popular this week.
HMS Hood, one of the most famous warships of the Second World War, was a battlecruiser and therefore part of what is now the largest featured topic on Wikipedia: "Battlecruisers of the world". The topic was promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week alongside eleven articles, three lists, four pictures, and two other topics.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Accessibility, a project that strives to make Wikipedia accessible for users with disabilities. The project improves Wikipedia's guidelines and Manual of Style, collects useful templates and scripts, and provides support to impaired Wikipedians.
The Ebionites 3 case has closed with an interaction ban for the two editors involved in the dispute.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...

The Signpost: 13 November 2013

The numbers this week are beyond anything that has been seen since this report began. The top view count beats the average by an order of magnitude. Usually the appearance of numbers this big on the list is due to spamming, but in this case it seems they are due to honest interest; more specifically, Google Doodles, which for the first time claimed all five top slots. This column has raised numerous times the power of a Google Doodle to shine light on Wikipedia, but the wattage has never been as high as this.
Five articles, two lists, one topic, and nine pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
The supporting staff of the Wikimedia Foundation’s powerful volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) have released their assessments for the third half-yearly round of funding applications. The applications for the newly named annual plan grants were submitted by affiliated entities on 1 October, and comprise a total of more than US$5M in bids.
The Italian-language Wikipedia community has overwhelmingly voted to request the Wikimedia Foundation's assistance in recovering wikipedia.it, a website that has been frequently confused with the Italian Wikipedia.
This week, we followed the intricate storylines of WikiProject Soap Operas.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...

The Signpost: 20 November 2013

As I said in August, contributing to the Signpost can be one of the most rewarding things an editor can do. The genre is refreshingly different from that of Wikipedia articles, and can allow writers to use a different range of skills. The need for an independent, volunteer-run Signpost continues to grow, given the increasing complexity and financial expenditures of the global Wikimedia movement, not to mention the English Wikipedia.
Peter Burke's A Social History of Knowledge: Volume II: From the Encyclopédie to Wikipedia is a broad and wide-ranging look at how knowledge has been created, acquired, organized, disseminated, and sometimes lost in the Western world over the last two and a half centuries, a sequel to his 2000 book covering the prior three centuries, A Social History of Knowledge: From Gutenberg to Diderot.
Four articles, five lists, and thirty-four pictures were promoted to 'featured status' this week, including an image of a small fraction of the 18,000 taxis that serve Hong Kong.
This week, we headed over to WikiProject National Football League. With 10 Featured Articles, 61 Featured Lists, and 142 Good Articles (as of publication), this WikiProject has done a lot of work improving American football articles.
The Wikimedia Foundation has sent a formal cease and desist letter to Wiki-PR—the public relations agency accused of breaking Wikipedia policies and guidelines by creating, editing, and maintaining several thousand articles for paying clients through a sophisticated array of accounts. The Foundation's attorneys, Cooley LLP, have demanded that Wiki-PR's employees abide by the site's Terms of Use and the language of a community ban from the English Wikipedia.
It's not hard to guess which event is leading interest in the top 25 this week. The sheer scale of Typhoon Haiyan is staggering; estimates place its maximum windspeed upon first landfall in the Philippines on November 6 at 315 km/h, which would make it the most powerful tropical cyclone ever to reach land. To date, the storm has killed nearly 4000 people and damaged or destroyed nearly 4 million homes.
Back in March, when the March 25 Arbitration Report covered the Audit Subcommittee appointment discussion, a statement from the WMF legal division clarified its position that access to deleted revisions required an RFA or RFA-identical process; therefore AUSC committee appointments were not open to non-admins. The WMF legal team has now further clarified its position, saying that running for and winning an election for arbitrator would qualify as the type of rigorous community selection process required for the checkuser and oversight rights held by arbitrators.

Iniezione Elettronica

Regarding the revert under ie: I linked Iniezione Elettronica to Electronic injection in the same manner that ionization energy links to Ionization potential. What's the difference?

--Sstrader (talk) 18:54, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

These dab pages are not like normal articles, the style and what's allowed to link is different - it's explained here WP:MOSDAB. Regards Widefox; talk 09:44, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
User:Sstrader I gave specific reasoning when I first removed it "no mention in article per WP:DABMENTION , .. (style: only 1 link per entry)". You need to check WP:BRD for how when Boldly adding something, then being Reverted the next step is Discuss (not BRRRRD which some may see as edit warring). Widefox; talk 21:03, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
You did give specific information, and I appreciate that, but your reasoning conflicted directly with another entry (ionization energy) that you did not remove and that is still there. My addition appears to match the style of that other entry. Am I missing some difference in the two? I hesitate to remove the ionization line because you had left it, and it may represent an aspect of dab pages that I do not understand. Thank you again for your help (and, apologies if these questions are considered an edit war). --Sstrader (talk) 12:54, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Sstrader Yes you're right, I must have missed that one before...here's how to do it...Ionization energy didn't mention "IE" per WP:DABMENTION so it shouldn't have been listed until it is in the article first. To fix that we either remove from the dab (like with Iniezione Elettronica) or add the initialism in the article if it is used in WP:RS. The latter is true so I've added it to the article Ionization energy and the entry in the dab needed fixing too.  Done Thanks. The same applies to Iniezione Elettronica. This is covered in WP:DABMENTION / WP:MOSDAB. Widefox; talk 13:34, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
Ah, now I see. Thanks for the walk-through on that! I'll look closer at the dab rules to get those straight in my head. --Sstrader (talk) 04:59, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

The lament of a grumpy old man

Regarding your edit to PDF (disambiguation) in September, THANK YOU!! Pdfpdf (talk) 11:12, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
(I had come to the conclusion that I was the ONLY person on the planet who had read WP:MOSDAB.)

You're welcome. I undid your removal of postdoc fellow per WP:DABABBREV. Widefox; talk 13:13, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Postdoctoral fellow

added to article per WP:DABABBREV - please be careful not to remove valid abbrevs just because not in the article yet

What absolute nonsense! Go read WP:MOSDAB.
By definition, if it's not in the article, it's not valid. I don't have a crystal ball that might predict what you might do at some indeterminate time in the future. The onus is on YOU "to be careful" and add it to the article BEFORE adding it to the dab.
And while you are reading WP:MOSDAB, please read WP:CIVIL, WP:AGF and Emily Post. Pdfpdf (talk) 12:25, 3 December 2013 (UTC)

Pdfpdf you've only just praised me for knowing MOSDAB! Did you read WP:DABABBREV ? "If an abbreviation is verifiable, but not mentioned on the target article, consider adding it to the target article and then adding the entry to the disambiguation page. " . As I didn't add it to the dab page, I have no burden, but I did however follow WP:DABABBREV and fix someone else's MOSDAB error. You're right this isn't in MOSDAB, but it is a guideline experienced editors should know about and certainly not get pointy about when informed of it. Accusing someone of a bunch of things when you have no evidence is, however, quite aggressive. Widefox; talk 02:32, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Dear Pot, I hope you have a Merry Christmas, and a Happy New Year. I intend to enjoy my break, and I hope you enjoy the period too. Best wishes, Kettle. Pdfpdf (talk) 03:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Pdfpdf This sounded so definitive "rmv per WP:MOSDAB - ZERO evidence that Postdoctoral fellow is referred to by any-one, any-where, as PDF" but it's not right is it? If you consider us similar, sorry I'm at a loss to know why, could you point out the mistake I've made so I may improve? cheers Widefox; talk 09:11, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
Certainly. However, if you don't mind, not now - I'm on a break, and also (as it happens, I'm rather busy).
If you do mind, and it can't wait, say so - and, when I get a chance, I will reply more quickly. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
No problem, regards Widefox; talk 17:44, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 04 December 2013

Summary:Doctor Who nearly got cancelled in its first week because its premiere was swamped by coverage of the JFK assassination, which happened the same day. Thankfully, producers saw fit to rerun it the next day, which is now its official anniversary date.
Wikipedia works on the efforts of unpaid volunteers who choose to donate their time to advance the cause of free knowledge. This phenomenon, as trivial as it may sound to those acquainted with Wikipedia inner workings, has always puzzled economists and social scientists alike, in that standard Economic theory would not predict that such enterprises would thrive without any form of remuneration.
Recent discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
The sister project Wikisource, the digital library that hosts free-content primary sources, is now a decade old. Wikisource, which now has versions in 63 languages, is the sixth type of project to reach ten-year milestone and will be the last until 2016. The Wikimedia Foundation's volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee has published its recommendations to the Board of Trustees on 11 new applications for annual grants by 11 WMF-affiliated organisations. The maximum total budget for the current and upcoming March rounds is US$6M.
This week, we returned to WikiProject Apple Inc. for a peek at their newest articles about the latest in gadgets and software. The last time we took a bite out of WikiProject Apple, they had just finished merging WikiProject Macintosh and WikiProject iPhone OS. Today, the project is hard at work rewriting their primary article, improving the subject's outline, and adding to the project's list of 25 Good Articles and 6 Featured Articles.
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Seventeen articles, four lists, and twenty-eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status in the last two weeks.
The Ottoman Empire–Turkey naming dispute case has opened. The second draft of the discretionary sanctions proposal is now open for review.

The Signpost: 11 December 2013

When one edits this page for too long, one is tempted to appoint oneself as the psychoanalyst for the human race, or at least the English-speaking portion thereof. Since nearly everyone uses Wikipedia, the constant stream of TV updates, pointless celebrity scandals, and inquiries after who has died can seem like a dreary peek into humanity's surprisingly banal collective consciousness.
Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales caught headlines last week when he referred to former National Security Agency (NSA) contractor Edward Snowden ... Loek Essers of the International Data Group, (IDG) News Service is reporting that a German court has held Wikipedia liable for its content, but still does not have to fact check the information in advance.
Amid great anticipation the international prize winners have just been announced for the fourth annual Wiki Loves Monuments, now the world's largest photographic competition and one of the biggest events on the Wikimedia movement's calendar. ... The first prize has gone to David Gubler's photograph of a Swiss train crossing a viaduct.
This week, the Signpost interviewed the Wine WikiProject.
On 7 December, Wikipedia editor Wehwalt reached the momentous milestone of 100 featured articles with History of Chincoteague, Virginia. Quite apart from the reading and research, that's around three-quarters of a million words of finalised text, not counting footnotes, image captions and the rest.
Three articles, one list, and eight pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
On 6 December, the latest version of the MediaWiki software was released. In development from March 2013 through October 2013, the release featured anti-spam and counter-vandalism improvements.

The Signpost: 18 December 2013

This week, the Signpost interviewed the Tunisia WikiProject on the French Wikipedia.
An animated Google Doodle for computer programmer and naval rear admiral Grace Hopper generated another record-breaking hit count for the year, though the count for the list overall was lower than for that of the previous holder.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
A little more than six days after the close of voting, the results of the annual Arbitration Committee (ArbCom) elections have been announced. Of the 22 candidates, 13 managed to gain more supports than opposes, though only one gained the support of more than half of the voters. Eight were elected to two-year terms, and a ninth will serve for one year.
Seven articles, three lists, and eight pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the GLAMWikiToolset, or GWToolset, is being deployed to the Wikimedia Commons. It allows for GLAM organizations to batch upload content based on various metadata stored in an XML schema. In the past this has been done by various bots, but now it will be easier for GLAMs to do it directly.

The Signpost: 25 December 2013

Analyzing edits to the-then 46 largest Wikipedias between July 9 and August 8, 2013, a study identified a set of about 8,000 contributors with a global user account who have edited more than one of these language versions in that time frame.
Five articles, two lists, and five pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
We saved one last special report for 2013. After our well-received review of great WikiProject logos a couple years ago, it was only a matter of time before we collected a new batch of interesting iconography that showcases the creativity of the Wikipedia community. Hopefully, these logos will also inspire other projects to liven up their drab pages.
A significant move by the Wikimedia Foundation has been to broaden the types of activities it funds to develop several different programs for judging and allocating that funding, and to set up volunteer committees that initially assess applications for funding.
Last month, the OAuth extension was deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. OAuth is a standard used for allowing users to authenticate third-party applications, also known as consumers, to take actions on their behalf.

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The Signpost: 01 January 2014

In fact, the majority are relatively evenly split between three themes: people of interest, television, and websites.
In 2013, the arbitration committee closed 10 cases, 9 amendment requests, and 26 clarification requests.
On New Year's Day, an article by Tim Sampson published in The Daily Dot and republished shortly after on Mashable covered the currently ongoing medical disclaimer RfC.
Dariusz Jemielniak's book is the newest about Wikipedia, published in Poland in 2013 and with an English edition forthcoming in 2014.
This was the year in which one journalist described the flagship site, Wikipedia, as "wickedly seductive". It was the year Wikipedia's replacement value was estimated at $6.6bn, its market value at "tens of billions of dollars", and its consumer benefit "hundreds of billions of dollars". But it was also the year in which one commentator forecast the decline of Wikipedia—that the project is in trouble from its shrinking volunteer workforce, skewed coverage, "crushing bureaucracy" and 90 percent male community.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia and around the Wikimedia movement include...
The year 2013 has come and gone, adding 50 new WikiProject Reports to our long list of projects we've had the privilege to meet. Last year saw the continuation of our Babel series, featuring WikiProjects from other languages of Wikipedia. We also expanded our selection of special reports, offering readers a growing collection of helpful tips and tools as they participate in WikiProjects.
Over the past year 1181 pieces of featured content were promoted. The most active of the featured content programs was featured picture candidates (FPC), which promoted an average of 46 pictures a month. This was followed by featured article candidates (FAC; 32.5 a month). Coming in third was featured list candidates (FLC; 18 a month).
2013 saw a lot of changes to MediaWiki software and Wikimedia infrastructure.

Celine etc

Hallo, I came across Céline (1992 film) while stub-sorting, found a fairly confusing set of name and dab pages, didn't realise that Celine (disambiguation) existed (you hadn't left a hatnote!), did some work, undid some of it after I found the dab page, and have now left one combined dab page for Celine/Céline, and the two separate name pages with a merge proposal. I doubt that we need two separate name pages, but I'm sure that we don't need two separate dab pages for the non-name items. I'm not 100% sure where the pseudonymous surname belongs, but I hope you find the current situation an improvement. You'd done a good job on creating the dab page, but unfortunately just didn't then make it accessible from Celine (unless I missed something). PamD 17:57, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

thanks, yes looks like I missed the hatnote. I commented on the merge - my thought as well. Merging both dabs and SIAs seems better. Widefox; talk 18:59, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 08 January 2014

Public Domain Day—January 1, 2014—gives me an opportunity to reflect on this important asset, mandated by the Constitution of the United States.
The various maladies that befall humanity got some well-known faces this week: the death of the well-liked actor James Avery topped the list, but Michael Schumacher, who is in a coma after a skiing accident, also drew attention.
MediaWiki developers will be meeting in San Francisco on January 23–24 for an Architecture Summit.
On 8 January, the Wikimedia Foundation notified the Wikimedia-l mailing list that Sarah Stierch, a popular Wikimedian and the Foundation's Program Evaluation Community Coordinator, was no longer an employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, as a result of being paid to create articles on the English Wikipedia.
At the very start of the new year, 2014's WikiCup—an annual competition which has been held on Wikipedia in various forms since 2007—began.
This week, we spent some time with WikiProject Television.
Twelve articles, three lists, seven pictures, and a portal were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.

The Signpost: 15 January 2014

Wikimedia Germany, the largest national affiliate, has authored an extensive critique of the Funds Dissemination Committee's process for issuing funding recommendations for the various large organizations in the movement.
The proposed schedule for the MediaWiki Archicture Summit has been published. The two main plenary sessions will be about HTML templating, and Service-oriented architecture.
It is heavily ironic that two decades after the World Wide Web was started — largely to make it easier to share scholarly research — most of our past and present research publications are still hidden behind paywalls for private profit. The bitter twist is that the vast majority of this research is publicly funded, to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars worldwide each year.
Wikipedia's recent decline in readership, possibly due to Google's Knowledge Graph. ... Judith Newman in the New York Times asks "What Does Judith Newman Have to Do to Get a Page?"
We now can get a far more accurate picture of which short surges in popularity are likely natural and which are not.
This week, we studied human social behavior with the folks at WikiProject Sociology.

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The Signpost: 22 January 2014

A particularly esoteric anthology of speculative fiction, filled with imaginary Wikipedia entries from, as the introduction puts it, "the many Wikipedias across the Multiverse."
The Wikimedia Foundation's Director of Community Advocacy's application of pending changes level two on the article Conventional PCI—an action taken under its rarely used office actions policy—has escalated to the Arbitration Committee after an editor upgraded it to full protection.
Fifteen articles, nine lists, twenty pictures, and one topic were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia over the last two weeks.
On 15 January, Wikipedia turned thirteen years old. In that time, this site has grown from a small site that was known to only a select few to one of the most popular websites on the internet. At the same time, recent data suggests that there is a power curve among users, where the comparative few who are writing most of Wikipedia have most of the edits. The result of this is that there is going to be bias in what is created, and how we deal with it as Wikipedians is indicative of the future of the site. Furthermore, this brings up what we have to do in order to combat this bias, as there are many ideas, but the question is whether they will work or not.
This week we're interviewing Brion Vibber about the then-upcoming Architecture Summit. Brion is a long time Wikipedian, the first employee of the Wikimedia Foundation, and currently the lead software architect working with the mobile team.
An article in USA Today announced that a European-funded project called RoboEarth that is designed to give robots a mechanism by which to access information to dispense.
While the 71st Golden Globe Awards, held on 12 January, had an impact on the top 25, their presence was largely absent from the Top 10. With the exception of Best Actor winner Leonardo DiCaprio, the only Golden Globe entrants in the Top 10 are films that would have been there anyway.

The Signpost: 29 January 2014

There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.

The Signpost: 29 January 2014

There are times when this job is hard. As an analogy, imagine navigating in fog at night, except you don't know where you are, you don't know where you want to go, and your flashlight keeps dying on you.
Contests have existed almost as long as the English Wikipedia. Contestants have expanded hundreds of articles and made tens of thousands of edits. Although it may seem as though there aren't any negatives to contests, they have occasionally become a divisive topic on the English Wikipedia.
Wiki-PR, a public relations agency, whose employees used a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts to create, edit, and maintain several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients, has told Business Insider that it was demonized by the online encyclopedia. Jordan French, Wiki-PR's CEO, said he believes the Wikimedia Foundation "painted" his company to look like an "evil entity" that is "scrubbing truths from Wikipedia".
The Kafziel case has been closed, with Kafziel losing his administrator status as a result.
An author experimented with "a promising type of assignment in formal translator training which involves translating and publishing Wikipedia articles", in three courses with students at the University of Warsaw.

The Signpost: 12 February 2014

As reported in various media outlets this week, including The Next Web and The Daily Dot, this past week, Wikimedia Commons and various language Wikipedias are working together to encourage subjects of Wikipedia articles to record a 10-second clip of their voice to be appended to their Wikipedia article.
Software evolution does not always mean that features are being added. It also means that old fat is being trimmed. It is no different for MediaWiki.
In a bold move, the Wikimedia Foundation's Board of Trustees has announced a major change in policy concerning affiliated groups in the worldwide movement, and FDC funding levels to eligible chapters and thematic organizations over the next two years. Both decisions were published last Tuesday after considerable post-meeting consultation with the FDC and the Affiliations Committee (AffCom). The core of the first decision is
Thirteen articles, three lists, and twenty-five images were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia from 19 January to 1 February.
Two great sporting events, the Super Bowl and the Winter Olympics, collide in one week, transforming the top ten into a festival of flying feet, a carnival of colliding caraniums and a bacchanal of bouncing balls, combined to influence Wikipedia's most popular articles last week.
In celebration of the 2014 Winter Olympics in Sochi, we revisited the team at WikiProject Russia to learn how the project has changed since our first interview in 2011.

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Sharia.

Hello Widefox, i see you reverted my edit. The page on Sharia really needs to be changed. Because it is untrue and promotes Islamaphobia. It seems to be written by somebody that has a bias towards Islam and purposefully misconstrues facts.

For example the opening statement of, "The origin of sharia is the Koran". This is false and misleading and the source it uses does not actually put forth this idea. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Draicoon (talkcontribs) 11:57, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

Reply is on your page. Widefox; talk 13:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 February 2014

The Wikimedia Foundation has proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' Terms of use to specifically ban undisclosed paid editing. ... Dimitris Liourdis, a lawyer in training who moonlights as an administrator on the Greek Wikipedia, is embroiled in a legal dispute with a Greek politician over alleged edits made to his Wikipedia article.
Runa Bhattacharjee has notified the community that the Foundation is ready to turn the Universal Language Selector back on.
WikiProject Countering System Bias aims to combat imbalanced coverage while encouraging neglected cultural perspectives and points of view, both in articles and in the larger Wikipedia community. As you'll see from the varied experiences and motivations of our nine respondents, the biases that the folks at WP CSB tackle run the full gamut of human characteristics and dispositions. The interview that follows unveils many of Wikipedia's greatest shortcomings.
Five articles, seven lists, forty-three pictures, and two portals were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia in the last two weeks.
Valentines Day got a somewhat muted reception this week, overshadowed by continuing coverage of the Winter Olympics in Sochi and the death of Shirley Temple.

The Signpost: 26 February 2014

About a week ago, the Wikimedia Foundation proposed to modify the Wikimedia projects' terms of use to specifically ban paid editing, by adding a new clause titled "Paid contributions without disclosure". We have asked two users, one in favor of the measure (Smallbones) and one opposed (Pete Forsyth), to contribute their opinions on the matter.
Eight articles, three lists, and nine pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.
This week, we found three Ph.D.s willing to give us a crash course on WikiProject Neuroscience.
Ukraine has been gripped by widespread protests over the past three months. Due to a decision by former president Viktor Yanukovych—at Russia's urging—to abandon integration with the European Union, the country was (and in many ways still is) split between the Europe-favoring Ukrainian-speaking western half and the Russian-speaking east and south. Hundreds have died during the unrest, leaving thousands of family members and friends to bury their loved ones. This week our Wikimedian colleagues in Ukraine are facing that challenge after the death of one of their own.
Following a trend started by Wikimedia Israel, Wikimedia Argentina has published an open letter challenging the recent deletion of hundreds of images from the Commons under its policy on URAA-restored copyrights, relating to the United States' 1994 Uruguay Round Agreements Act.
The 2014 Winter Olympics had more of an impact on the Top 25 than the Top 10, which had to shoulder old stalwarts like the death list, Reddit threads, TV shows and the eternal presence of Facebook; still, with four slots, it's the most searched topic on the list.
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Linux kernel article

Hello there! I'm wondering why did you perform this revert on the Linux kernel article? Sorry, but that makes little sense... Please advise. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 22:26, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

(as per your talk page - best to let others do what they're doing). Widefox; talk 18:54, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
Once again, sorry for the confusion. — Dsimic (talk | contribs) 01:22, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

(test) The Signpost: 05 March 2014

There's nothing like a good old bit of Cold War nostalgia, combined with a suitably scary international incident, to focus our attention on the real world. That said, nothing could stem our outpouring of affection for the beloved comedian Harold Ramis, whose death managed to top the week in the face of those international concerns.
Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...
This week, the Signpost caught up with the Wikipedia Library (TWL), which aims to connect reference resources with Wikipedia editors who can use them to improve articles. Funded through the Wikimedia Foundation's Individual Engagement Grants program, TWL has a new "visiting scholars" initiative and a microgrants program in the works.
The WikiCup competition is ongoing, while six articles, three lists, and ten pictures were promoted to "featured" status of the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, the Signpost delved into the English Wikipedia's Article Rescue Squadron.

The Signpost: 12 March 2014

Wikimedians around the world gathered to celebrate Women's History Month and the associated International Women's Day by holding editathons. If you lived in the United Kingdom, you had the opportunity to attend Wikimedia UK's event at the Petrie Museum of Egyptian Archaeology, part of University College London and host to one of the largest collections of Egyptian and Sudanese artifacts in the world.
An intensely busy week, as a confluence of celebratory, curious and urgent topics pushed typical residents like Facebook and Deaths in 2014 out of the top ten entirely.
Five articles, two lists, and 52 pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
This week, we interviewed Anaxibia from the Russian-language Entomology WikiProject.

Good Consideration

Good watch on the article Iran Air Flight 655.


Revision on page done after proper research on the issue, for your references, please check:

(copyright violation links removed)

Nice Job though! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swamyss95 (talkcontribs) 23:50, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Do not post links to potentially copyright violations on wikipedia. I replied on your talk page. Widefox; talk 02:26, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Dabs vs SIAs

Hi Widefox, in this edit[7] you turned a dab page into a SIA. I beleive that as an SIA if an editor refers to Capital FM in an article they won't get a warning notification (like they would if it was a dab page). Can you explain your reasoning for changing it from a dab to a SIA? DexDor (talk) 22:17, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Yes. It may be made an SIA or a dab as it is of one type. This was a while ago, and at that time the MOSDAB wording implied dabs of only one type must be made an SIA. We changed the wording after I questioned the validity of it. I believe the wording is now more clear that an SIA may be used or a dab.
If converted back to a dab, the redlinks entries will have to be removed (if not mentioned anywhere). I'd have thought it's more useful as a dab than an SIA as it's unlikely to have any value as a set (no supporting text) and non-notable entries can be removed. I will fix. Maybe you'd like to take the SIA linking issue up with the dab project? Widefox; talk 23:38, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm trying to gather a few views before proposing a detailed change. DexDor (talk) 06:33, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

SPARC 5 primary sources tag

Hi Widefox, I exapnded the SPARC T5 article and added several secondary references. Check it out and let me know if the primary sources tag can be removed. Looks like you added it back in July 2013. Regs, PeraKM (talk) 19:58, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Good work. The majority are still primary. I'm in no rush to remove the primary tag. Discussions of this are best suited on the article talk page so others may voice their opinions. Regards Widefox; talk 01:01, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks, I'm a newbie as a Wikipedia contributor and need to learn the ropes. Yes, 6 of the 11 references are primary, and 100% of the citations in the wikitable are primary. Did a little better with the citations in the text where 9 of the 14 are secondary. Have some ideas how to use more secondary sources. Will initiate the discussion on the article talk page when I get a change to revise the citations. Regs, --PeraKM (talk) 17:54, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 19 March 2014

Non-US editors and chapters have taken issue with a multitude of image deletions done on the Wikimedia Commons to comply with the Uruguay Round Agreements Act, a US law that brought the country into compliance with the Berne Convention.
This week, we visited WikiProject History, an ancient project with roots dating back to 2001. The project is home to 196 pieces of Featured material and 483 Good and A-class articles independent of the vast accomplishments of its various child projects. WikiProject History maintains a lengthy list of tasks, oversees the history portal, and continues to build Wikipedia's outline of history.
In a record-breaker, the English Wikipedia has a new largest good topic: the 71-article Light cruisers of Germany, which concerns the light cruisers used by Germany during the 20th century.
Twelve articles, fourteen lists, and six pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.
One of the first university Wikipedian in residence positions, hosted at Harvard University in 2012, has jumped back into the spotlight amid questions about its ethical integrity.
The utterly mystifying events surrounding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370, which has not fallen from the sky so much as vanished from it entirely, has left an information-starved public scrambling for precedents, some logical, some... not.
The Wikimedia engineering report for February 2014 has been published. A summarized version is also available. Major news include

The Signpost: 26 March 2014

April Fools' Day is rapidly approaching. Every year, members of the community pull pranks and make (or attempt to make) humorous edits to pages across the project. Every year, the community follows April Fools' Day with a contentious debate about whether or not it is necessary to impose limits on April Fools' Day jokes for future years. It is a polarizing issue.
Topics like the 2014 Crimea crisis or the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines Flight 370 eased down the list, making way for such traditional topics as St Patrick's Day, Reddit threads and even Google Doodles, which have reappeared after a long absence.
Have you wondered about differences in the articles on Crimea in the Russian, Ukrainian, and English versions of Wikipedia? A newly published article entitled "Lost in Translation: Contexts, Computing, Disputing on Wikipedia" doesn't address Crimea, but nonetheless offers insight into the editing of contentious articles in multiple language editions through a heavy qualitative examination of Wikipedia articles about the Kosovo in the Serbian, Croatian, and English editions.
Results for the two-stage 2013 Commons Picture of the Year have been announced. This year's winning photograph (above) shows a lightbulb that has been cracked, allowing inert gas to escape—and oxygen to enter, so that the tungsten filament burns. From the flames rise elegant curls of blue smoke.
Four articles, two lists, and twelve pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week.
On 3 April, we will roll out some changes to the typography of Wikipedia's default Vector skin, to increase readability for users on all devices and platforms. After five months of testing, four major iterations, and through close collaboration with the global Wikimedia community, who provided more than 100 threads of feedback, we’ve arrived at a solution which improves the primary reading and editing experience for all users.
As you have probably read on this weeks op-ed, or via various other channels of announcement, 3 April will see the introduction of the Typography refresh (or update) for the Vector skin on all Wikipedias. Other projects like Commons will have this update rolled out a few days prior.
This week, the Signpost interviewed the English Wikipedia's Mountains WikiProject.

You probably did the right thing. I was having trouble figuring out which one to use.

Here's my source. I don't know whether it's online.

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Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 17:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

OK. We just go with the ambiguous term. Regards Widefox; talk 23:30, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

WP

You are so right. My editing ain't what it used to be. Maybe I should think about retiring. --Jameboy (talk) 16:58, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I saw the WP convention in Wikipedia itself, e.g. 2010 World Series#Game 2. I obviously can't use Wikipedia as a source, but I thought the abbreviation was widespread and that I wouldn't have any trouble finding it elsewhere. But so far I haven't, apart from in unreliable sources. --Jameboy (talk) 17:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
The more mature and complex it is here, the more we're all wrong. ;) Widefox; talk 21:37, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 April 2014

The run-up to the conference has seen the unfolding of two fractious threads on the Wikimedia public mailing list, both of which may serve as background for the last session at Berlin: "Future of the Wikimedia Conference".
This week, we visited with WikiProject Germany.
The annual Wikimedia Conference is about to start in Berlin, hosted by Wikimedia Germany, which won the bid to hold the event over three others. This will be the fifth time the chapter has hosted the Wikimedia Conference—it did so from 2009 to 2012, with attendance ranging from 100 to 180 Wikimedians. This year 160 people are expected at the four-day event, which is mainly for representatives of affiliated Wikimedia organisations. The conference has been built around two themes: Organisation, structures, and grants and Success and impact.
The Signpost's "Featured content" writers had a bit of fun this week.
The mysterious fate of MH370 still tops the list, but in all other respects our readership has retreated from the real world into its pop-cultural happy place: TV, movies, music, Reddit and Google Doodles all made an appearance.
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