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WP:ONUS explanation
ONUS does not give you a license to remove anything you don't like and edit war to preserve the removal. I discussed this matter with an administrator (SFR) where he clearly indicated that disputed longstanding content requires consensus to remove. While there are some extreme exceptions (like BLP articles and vandalism), for usual content disputes this is considered battleground editing.
Mea culpa. I screwed up here and reverted my own edits on the Nord Stream thing. The addition of the Nord Stream material was recent and not longstanding. My apologies. I am nevertheless curious about your perspectives on ONUS as applied to longstanding content. You've dealt with a similar case with WeatherWriter linked above, and the two of us have had several editing disputes over the last year; clarification regarding this point can avoid problems down the road.
Do you agree with the basic principle that, barring exceptional cases (vandalism or a BLP-violation), disputes involving the removal of longstanding content should require discussion-page consensus? This is the view expressed by admin SFR in the linked discussion above, as well as admin ToBeFree in a past discussion on your talk page. JDiala (talk) 01:12, 27 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure how that is relevant here, since we're not talking about long-standing content, but content inserted days before into the article, but yes I can agree with actual good faith long-standing article content being an exception to WP:ONUS. I'm not removing things "I don't like", I'm trying to abide by pretty basic Wikipedia policy, and creating an energy infrastructure section in an article about the Russian invasion of Ukraine and making it mostly about Ukrainian attacks on Russia or Ukrainians being arrested for sabotage is not following WP:NPOV. TylerBurden (talk) 19:03, 28 August 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with JDiala. TylerBurden also did this to me, but I am not going to restore my revision, even though I should and his conduct is not allowed. Cyrobyte (talk) 16:11, 19 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it was generally understood by editors with years of experience how WP:ONUS works, especially if they involve themselves in contentious topics, but here we have two examples that seems to point to the contrary. TylerBurden (talk) 17:48, 24 September 2025 (UTC)[reply]
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