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Yikes, my take. Well, I just blocked Dyslexic for personal attacks. I did hope this would sort itself out, but I think the meat of the issue is that eventually they will both have to be banned from editing articles in which they engage in edit warring, or they'll both have to be banned full stop. Neither of them seems to be able to collaborate with each other, although of the two DA seems the more able to collaborate with others. T-Man's edits are not usually aimed at collaborating but at getting across his own methodology, whilst DA seems to have a compulsion to blindly revert T-Man's every edit. It can't go on much longer. Steve blockTalk18:49, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm just looking at the history of List of Batman: The Animated Series episodes, and thinking that the two of them should be banned from that article for a week or two. What do you reckon? I think the only fair thing to do is to ban them both, there's no need for the personal attacks and edit summaries of DA, and edit warring is frowned upon and they were both placed on probation for disrupting articles. Steve blockTalk19:40, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know tito, i couldnt find you on irc, i have responded to a msg from dyslexic on my talk page, if you need help feel free to poke me you know where i am :) Benon21:44, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Hey, I'm just trying to make nice and smooth things over. I didn't know that was a crime. Fine, I'm leaving town anyways for a few days. -- Dyslexic agnostic06:03, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
For helping to sort out that whole fiasco. :P 69.145.123.171Hello! Tuesday, July 4, 2006, 21:04 (UTC)
"Old AFD Full"
Hi Titoxd, I noticed when you close keep-AFDs you add the {{oldafdfull}} tag under the heading "== Old AFD Full==". I think that heading is very idiosyncratic - only people who have closed AFDs will know what that refers to. —Quarl(talk)2006-07-05 03:59Z
User advice
I'm not sure what exactly to do with a couple things I saw today, so I thought best to ask someone who has the admin mop and more experience than me. Storm05 created Tropical Storm Hanna (2002) after copy/pasting it from a subpage. I speedy-tagged it for a history merge and that problem was sorted. However when I explained the purpose of the tag to him, I think it wasn't understood and given what else he did at about that time, I think pretty much all his articles are copy/pastes. The second thing is HurricaneCraze32 uploaded this post-hurricane damage image. The site in question does not seem to have any copyright information, but he initially tagged it as GFDL-licensed. Hink has removed that since, I think there is certainly a fair use case for that particular image, is that right? Anyway, that raised my interest and looked at his other uploads, and see plenty of PD-NOAA tagged images and other GFDL-tagged images. The NOAA pics are fine but the GFDL ones dodgy. I'm not sure what to do about those incorrectly tagged images, may be best to delete them, its possible to get PD ones of road signs I'm sure. I guess both users need the relevant things explained to them to stop them carrying on, but I'm not sure what to say really. Could you go do that and maybe give me some advice on how to deal with this kind of stuff? As for the mess they have left behind, that could keep you busy for a bit...--Nilfanion (talk) 22:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
I noticed you were in some recent edits with User:F.O.E. and decided to notify you on his newly opened RFC. Thank you! — The King of Kings 00:38 July 08 '06
Hey, thanks for closing the SWU afd. I was wondering, there are some AfDs from July 2 (star wars lists and whatnot) that need to be closed. I can't do it, since I was involved in their discussions (I deleted/kept the unanimous ones); some may borderline delete, others reflect a keep consensus. Could you look into it? Thanks. — Deckiller01:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi there. Thank you for making me crack a smile in the early morning. I, MacGyverMagic, hereby award you the Barnstar of Good Humour for this short, but incredibly funny edit. - Mgm|(talk)10:15, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, Tito. I had an idea related to Silence's idea about assigning priorites of importance to articles considered for Version 0.5. I think the general idea of priority levels for topics is good, regardless of how much acceptance or agreement happens at 0.5.
But I'm thinking there might be a more efficient way to do it, mainly by using a larger set of numbers to designate the priorities, and also with a scale that is somewhat less relative. By that I mean that each priority level would correspond to a set of some defined number. Here are a couple of examples.
One option is based on powers of 10.
Priority level 1 -- The 10 most important items.
Level 2 -- The 11th to 100th most important items.
3 -- The 101st to 1000th most important items, and so on.
Another option is based on doubling.*Priority set 100 -- The 100 most important items.
Set 200 -- The 101st to 200th most important items.
400 -- The 201st to 400th most important items, and so on.
These could be set up by continuing in the same vein as the core topics or with categories or both. Categories could allow subcategories, such as "the art articles within level x."
Walkerma mentioned a four-level scale already in use. But that only designates priorities within a given Wikiproject. The idea proposed here could apply to an article, and help put them in context with each other. Maurreen12:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Seeing that NSLE has basically left and I think hink has gotten annoyed with this enough, I thought I'd ask you this; Do you think my articles on Typhoon Aere (2004) and Hurricane Dolly (1996) in my sandbox are ready for publication as their own articles? If Dolly is published, I think I'll still work on it, but there really isn't much more info. So what do you think? And if you have time, could you give them a nice copyedit? íslenskahurikein #12(samtal)12:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
Don't mistake the fact that I've managed to get the program working and mess around with the code with actual competence, I'd rate myself as a beginner. I haven't really looked in any real detail at the source or attempted to understand it yet, so I don't know if its beyond me or not. Jdorje was good on adding useful comments to the source so I could easily see how to change the things I wanted to. In any case thing about toolserver seems interesting, what exactly would that involve and what would we get as an end result?
Oh and another thing could you look over Commons:Template:Hurricane auto track map? I played with it slightly to see if I could get the images assigned to the commons category with some logic. I tested it on Commons:Image:Epsilon (2005) track.png and it worked fine. However I'm concerned about storms which are not of the form {type} {name}, 1947 Fort Lauderdale hurricane for example. Its probably best to leave those as they are currently and that also doesn't break the old track maps before I update them. It seems like a switch on the template is the best solution there as that allows both the current arrangement and a split into {type} {name} when easily doable; could you do that? It may be possible to some more with the unnamed storms, but seeing how I'm going to upload the named storms first anyway, one thing at a time. (Not least because I'll have to mess with the script to correct its automagic suggestions).--Nilfanion (talk) 12:02, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
Help!, other useres are trying to delete my article but I objected saying that the plane crash is notable. Please vote keep on the vote page in order to save this article.Storm0515:38, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
AMS Journal Pictures: PD, Fair Use, or No Use?
Me and HurricaneHink were talking about this issue twice (once involving the picture of Hurricane Fifi and most recently involving a picture of Henri of 79, both of which are in AMS documents). Some documents are the same as the ones Hink got the pictures for the 1977-78 and 80-82 pictures from and others are the same as the documents I got my pictures from (such as Hurricanes Dora and Hilda). Are pictures from AMS journals fair use?
Also, I found a part of AMS' FAQ page that answers on needing written permission to use excerpts, but we're unsure if this applies to pictures. The excerpt is on the [page] for the 79 Atlantic season under "Images". Thanks!
Well, JMAcategory=sts and JMAcategory=STS aren't accepted as the same thing by the MediaWiki software, apparently, because that small edit just fixed it... Titoxd(?!?)05:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
As a self-professed Wikipedian from Mexico, please help to find sources for Fresa (AfD discussion) in order to make a verifiable encyclopaedia article about the concept. See chav for how such articles should be sourced. Uncle G12:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
Version 0.5
Hey, Titoxd, I replied to your question on my page and kind of expected to hear from you again, did you lose interest? I could do a little Version 0.5 reviewing, if I understood the process. Bishonen | talk23:04, 14 July 2006 (UTC).
Thanks!
...for reverting attacks to my user page! (I realize it's a bit after the fact, but I didn't even realize that it had been vandalized before!) bd2412T04:56, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
When you said "Copy the revisions", did you mean copy all versions of the images over or just all revisions of the image description (if it changed)? The only Alberto in use is the "correct" one, but the others aren't exact duplicates so do they need to go through the commons deletion process now? As for the Nassau pic thats sorted...--Nilfanion (talk) 16:06, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
Jeeze I didn't realise just how awful this looks like turning out to be. I've copied Aletta's map over to Commons and tagged the image with NowCommonsThis. However I'm concerned about the "Please always include the complete image caption and author, uploader and upload date to en wiki" instruction given for commons moves. All the track maps hosted on the en wiki were uploaded by Reub2000, who GFDL tagged them. However the Commons template that the track maps use licenses them as PD-Self, so a GFDL image is being moved to a PD image, that is looking for trouble :( I left him a message a few days ago about all manner of things), but he hasn't to acknowledged it. I'm thinking the transwiking stuff you aren't looking forward to is going to be the easy part.--Nilfanion (talk) 09:19, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
Yep, he has now. He uploaded Beryl to commons as PD and so on. I'm (half) tempted to FAC Lee (not on behalf of the Wikiproject though).--Nilfanion (talk) 09:53, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for your support!
Greetings, Titoxd. Just a quick note to thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with a final tally of (67/0/0)! Please don't hesitate to let me know if you have suggestions or requests - either of an admin nature or otherwise! :)
Hi again Titoxd! Thanks for your patience. The problem might be in my head in a generalized way (loss of brain mass), or specifically in my not knowing the "Good article" process that this is based on (I think?). I haven't been involved in that. Could you assist me with a single example, and then maybe I'll get a handle on it? I don't think The Giver ought to be part of Version 0.5. It's here (under "Literature"), here, and here, but not here or here. So is it up for review? If it is, where/how would I do it? Bishonen | talk09:25, 17 July 2006 (UTC).
To Jeffrey O. Gustafson who initiated this block request I ask why? We have had no interaction until now so how do you come to this requested action at WP:AN? Did you come across my account during your own research or are you acting as a proxy for another admin/user with whom I've caused to be angry with me? In reviewing your contributions I see no such "letter of the law" before now and so I feel singled out by you and I have no clue as to why - that to me is most disturbing. If you've come to this action on your own then should I be always wary of another admin challenging the legitimacy of my account?
For TenOfAllTrades who advised me not to worry and Rick who made me laugh I give special thanks, you've helped me to not take this so personally. And to Jeff, thanks for being courteous in informing me of your action and for letting me feel that your heart wasn't for blocking me.
Except for my one explanation above, I haven't edited for a few days now so as to allow y'all to comment about this based on my history of contribution rather than my reaction to it.
I wanted to say all of this before it all goes to archive heaven. I still have a lingering concern that this may arise again and don't want to go through WP life looking over my shoulder or worrying that I might piss-off some admin and cause another inquiry about the legitimacy of my account. If any of you who have been so gracious as to take the time to support me here have any suggestions to prevent such an action, please drop your thoughts on my talk or by email.
Finally, on a personal note to all, I never ever expected so much supportive response from all of you. I know that I've been moody at times and have spoken in ways that I have regretted the next day. I hoped otherwise but it seemed that those unfortunate responses might end up being my legacy as they were the foremost in my mind. And so far as this being a "role account", I think that I'll let the descriptions of AnnH and NoSeptember (both above) stand as the most intuitive descriptions of this account. My (and our) warmest regards to all of you for your understanding and outward support for the continuation of hydnjo's user account and future contributions. Again, my delighted and humble thanks :-) --hydnjotalk02:03, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
addendum: Jeff, I was confused at the outset in that I wasn't aware of the "role account" policy and then after becoming aware I was frustrated that I had made so many edits which could mislead someone to the conclusion that my account was a role account. I'm sorry that in my zeal to understand your actions that I posed the possibility that you were acting at someone else's behest. I have no evidence of that and it was improper of me to even mention that such a bizarre conspiracy was possible. I find myself guilty of "blaming the messenger" and posting an inappropriate comment about your motivation.
As for my account, I want to state that it is not a role account and I apologize for leaving the impression that it is one. "hydnjo" is the signature that I commonly use for much of my correspondence and thought it to be appropriate when I first started my WP account. The portmanteau is an acknowledgment of our shared existence and not an indication that Heidi and I share in editing at WP.
I thank you for your courtesy in informing me at the outset of the discussion at WP:AN and for your compliments about my contributions. The comments in my response were made in the shadow of my own frustration with my having left a trail of edits that could easily be construed as having come from either Heidi or myself. I sincerely apologize to you for making any suggestion as to your motivation in bringing up a legitimate policy question. You have a genuine concern for the orderly behavior of our editors and I thank you for initiating this discussion and providing me the opportunity to explain the nature of my account. --hydnjotalk18:54, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Re: Welcome back
Thank you! I've grabbed the changes on CVS now; thanks for putting in the optimizations. :) How've things on Wikipedia been? Happy editing! —AySz88\^-^04:12, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
To the people who have supported my request: I appreciate the show of confidence in me and I hope I live up to your expectations! To the people who opposed the request: I'm certainly not ignoring the constructive criticism and advice you've offered. I thank you as well! ♥! ~Kylu (u|t)23:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
I very much appreciate all the support you've given me (directly and indirectly) during this time. Thanks, Titoxd. :) ~Kylu (u|t) 23:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
Hello Titoxd, and thank you for your support at my Request for Adminship, which succeeded with an overwhelming final count of (105/2/0). I was very pleased with the outpouring of kind words from the community that has now entrusted me with these tools, from the classroom, the lesson in human psychology and the international resource known as Wikipedia. The Free Encyclopedia. Please feel free to leave me plenty of requests, monitor my actions (through the admin desk on my userpage) and, if you find yourself in the mood, listen to some of what I do in real life. In any case, keep up the great work and have a fabulous day. Grandmasterka05:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Sure, no problem. {{PAGENAME}} 05:51, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Request for help on monobook.js issue
Hi, Titoxd...I don't know if you have admin rights in both wiki:en and wiki:es, but here is my problem: I was trying to install the Monobook-Suite and I did something wrong with the monobook.js of wikipedia in spanish monobook.js because now I'm not able to login at es.wikipedia.org...please help!!! Thanks a lot --cybedu13:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Hi, appreciate your thoughts on some things:
After this edit [1], I blocked DA for 48 hours[2], an increase on a previous block I had given for 24 hours based on this[3]. After this latest block the user seems to have become embittered, and this string of edits worries me.[4], [5], [6] and [7]. The user seems to be obsessing with T-man, note the comment "I am completely and utterly fed up with being treated as the bad guy for my efforts to control T-Man's actions". Appreciate some input on this. Steve blockTalk21:44, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for that comment, but he blanked that out too, so I'm not sure what the next step is. What do you think, keep an eye on the situation, hope he/she will calm down or raise an rfc or something? Maybe WP:AN/AE? Steve blockTalk14:00, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
I've recently added Libya to the list of featured article candidates. Overall the candidature is going well with many of the objections now sorted out. The final concrete objection is with the article's prose. I have been the main contributor to the article and have been looking at it for the previous 9 - 10 months. My eyes no longer see it freshly, so I am not a suitable copy-editor!
To meet the final demand of copy editing, I have been advised to ask different people to edit parts of the article.
I would really love to get this article featured as you can probably see from the page's history! I've worked very hard on it and I see this as possibly being the final hurdle.
You can see the prose objections, mostly raised by Sandy, on the candidature page. If you have the time, please choose a section (Politics, Religion, Culture etc.) and copyedit, perfect, ace it! I would be very grateful with any help I can get.
Hello Titoxd. Are you still running the admin coaching page, or is Petros? Well, HighwayCello decided he doesn't want to run for adminship. And my other coachee, Firsfron, is up for RfA. I'm pretty confident he will succeed. So soon I'll be ready to take on another coachee. Just an FYI. Thanks! :) --Fang Ailitalk23:53, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
No. They are all from much earlier, from bugs which allowed the creation of pages with bad titles. Brion sometimes runs a script which renames them to sane names; I found out at the Server admin log he ran it recently, and am looking at them (the script generates quite predictable names) to see if there's something useful to save (so far, only a couple of userspace pages and a little bit of archived history). --cesarb04:02, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Yuck, this is horrible... I'm starting to plod through these now, but I feel its just going to be hideous. For a start I think I'm going to need admin help for a lot of them. Here's a couple so far:
As you can see thats barely halfway through A, theres going to be many many similar problems I'm sure. Should I just list them up at WP:RM as and when I find them?
Well, as I'm literally walking out the door, I'll get to those first thing a little bit later. Just put them here and I'll deal with all the ones that are not controversial. Titoxd(?!?)22:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
DA left me a note too. I'm trying to clear the mess up, but I really don't know what to do with T-Man. He seems to have disregarded consensus at List of Justice League episodes and not helped his case at Talk:List of Justice League episodes. Whilst he's made comments which border on the margins of incivility, I'm not sure they come in for being personal attacks. I don't judge his comment against DA which DA links to above as a personal attack, it's rather his sloppy english I think. That said, if you happen to take a diffrent view, I would respect that. However, his subpage creation at User talk:T-man, the Wise Scarecrow/Vandalism & Harassment is something I would consider a personal attack, and I've asked him not to create these before. Looking at his arb com page, he's up to 4 blocks for personal attacks, so his permanent ban doesn't kick in yet. I'm not sure what to do with this. I've left a note with DA to leave T-Man well alone, and I've asked T-Man to consider letting me delete it, otherwise I will list it at MFD. Steve blockTalk10:04, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
I don't care, I have admin friends who can unblock it. There is nothing wrong with trying to protect against vandals. Sorry, I made a mistake. Please move on with life, Okay, Thank you...O-TOWN'S AT06:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure about the copyright issues with utilising Gary Padgett's summaries for making the track maps. He prepares track data for all storms in all basins, generally utilising data from the JTWC. The raw data from the JTWC data is available online at the NRL. Does this mean I can just use his text to make the track map and then just source to the JTWC, without attribution to him? After all I could collate exactly the same data myself but it would take a lot of time and effort. If I do have to give him attribution, does that mean that I cannot claim the image as PD-self? Would some other commons-permissible license be usable if that is a problem?
In addition he utilises other sources (the RSMCs) than the JTWC in preparing some of the tracks. Can I make use of the JMA or Australian BoM best track data at all, and if I can do I need to use a different license to PD-self (for the images). Again, do I need to attribute GP when I make use of his tracks, some of the time he uses his judgement to pick which of the JTWC or the RSMC to go with. And then there is Catarina where he publishes a track prepared by another private individual. Is the image description I have provided there adequate?
Or am I just worrying about nothing here, as long as I source the location of the original advisories can I just use it as is done with the Atlantic storms?--Nilfanion (talk) 14:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
I think that is mostly paranoia on my part. I'm having to go to the original warnings to generate the data anyway, and I'm merely referring to his summaries to verify I have them right. However, there is a couple things I'm unsure of. When generating track maps am I correct in thinking that there are no copyright problems? My guess is that the bulletins are protected by the copyright of the issuing organization (if it has any), but I can use the data without being concerned about copyright issues. That is as long as I satisfy WP:V and link to the source of the data. On that note is the citing in Catarina's image description OK? Thanks.--Nilfanion (talk) 14:57, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Flower power!Request for Adminship
Thank you for contributing to my my request for adminship. Although I wasn't promoted to admin status, with a withdrawn vote count of 14/27/14, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was pleasantly suprised at the support, and was touched by it. I will also work harder on preventing disputes and keeping cool under stress. Hopefully I will re-apply soon and try again for the mop. Thanks again, HighwayReturn to Oz...13:33, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
Admin coaching
I noticed you were the coordinator of the admin coaching page. Could you put me on the "Unnasigned" users list, cheers —MinunSpiderman18:47, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
T-man has is also currently reported at WP:PAIN for further, unrelated personal attacks against another user. Please see [8]. I have decided to put the ban into effect, abandoning hope on reform from T-man. Dmcdevit·t05:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
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