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Hi Suncreator, I've made a number of changes based on your recommendations in the initial GA review. I will be making some more on sunday. but just wondered what you think so far? i've also made other changes that you didn't initially pick up on including changing one of the reviews (we had two different BBC reviews... thought it was a little bias) etc. just wondering what you think so far? is it a step in the right direction? Lil-unique1 (talk) 02:54, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure, nicely improving. When the references are stable, without twitter and thesun(ref #47), I'll go back over it, check out the content match the sources and review again. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 03:04, 23 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey suncreator. I've reworked the article again making changes you've recommended as well as others for general improvement. I've left some details at the talk. Appreciated if you could take a look and give me your thoughts when free. regards –Lil-unique1 (talk) 22:43, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello my friend. Hope your well? Just wondering where do we stand at the moment on Fight for This Love - i did make some more changes... =) Lil-unique1 (talk) 01:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello thanks for kudos. It wasn't easy but thanks to Google News and Bing Cluster search you can find a lot of information that wasn't previously easy to find. I've tried to address the Australia charts issue and a search of ARIAcharts.com found the song only on the dance chart. As for the German top model thing i've provided a link on the talk page which translates the whole given source. if you are still not satisfied that the source is specific i will try and search for another source otherwise i'll remove it. =) Regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 19:12, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello again. You are always a great person to go to for advice, so I have another question. I took the bog turtle to FA and the wood turtle to GA. They are the only two members of the genus Glyptemys, so, I thought that could be my next project. But, what does a "genus" article typically do? What would go in that article besides perhaps some of the info from the species articles? It would be great if you could point me in the direction of a few GA or, if possible, FA genus articles (I know, it always seems like I'm giving you work!). :-)--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 23:21, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

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Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 00:19, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, after waiting a while, neither graphics department has created the wood turtle dist. map, so I made my own in paint. I followed the map here. How would I get my image through commons?--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 00:51, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi SunCreator,

At WikiProject Gastropods we have lots of genus articles, but none of them are yet at FA or GA level, and I am not sure yet which are some of our better genus articles to recommend to you. Certainly it is not easy to say immediately what constitutes a GA genus article, especially when you already have two very good species articles and the genus only contains those two species, but of course there is such a thing as a genus description to be found in the literature, and one can talk about the global distribution of the genus, and one can list the species too. Sorry not to be of more help, Invertzoo (talk) 12:27, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for showing an interest Susan! The article is Glyptemys, there are only two species to the genus, so not the easiest of article to fill. Which do you think is the best Gastropods genus article? Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 15:34, 31 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry to barge in like this, but I'd like to contribute here. I do agree with everything Susan said. Plus, introducing a well illustrated species list should be something to consider. A good genus article could (or rather should) combine general information on the subject (e. g. taxonomy, natural history, phylogeny and general biology, all of them -perhaps- much less detailed than those discussed in a species article) and a good, well illustrated species list. We are, after all, writing about a taxon that may comprise several direct child taxa. IMHO, such a list may be found in the Marginella article.--Daniel Cavallari (talk) 00:42, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for barging in Daniel, that was very helpful! Yes I agree that Marginella is a pretty good genus article in general, although not perfect by any means. One basic criticism, the lede section needs to include an outline of the rest of the article contents. But perhaps you and I can maybe try to get that article up to GA status? Best, Invertzoo (talk) 02:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

That's absolutely possible, of course! I'll look out for any info I can find on the genus, as soon as I get to the museum! I'm sure there's plenty of material there.--Daniel Cavallari (talk) 19:32, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Elaboration on impact of global warming on Talk:Loggerhead sea turtle. V. left me behind on citation formatting, so unfortunately info is added then a short delay before the proper citation format is followed. Thank you for working with my students. Cheers --JimmyButler (talk) 13:57, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

You're getting some of the punctuation on WP:MOS#Captions wrong-- only full sentences need full stops, sentence fragments have no punc. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:36, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

All the captions should be correct now. Vancemiller (talk · contribs · count · email) 16:48, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

		The Reviewers Award
		Thank you for your diligent efforts to bring the loggerhead sea turtle to FA. We couldn't have done it without your help. Vancemiller (talk · contribs · count · email) 00:59, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

SunCreator - Thank for your participation and support in my RfA.

I can honestly say that your comments and your trust in me are greatly appreciated.

Please let me know if you ever have any suggestions for me as an editor, or comments based on my admin actions.

Thank you!  7  23:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

		The Reviewers Award
		A big thanks to your constant efforts on making the loggerhead sea turtle a better article. You made it possible for us to get FA! --TimHAllstr (talk) 00:40, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Hello Sun Creator. Hope you are well? I've gone ahead and implemented the changes asked at Fight for This Love. regards, Lil-unique1 (talk) 16:34, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I been busy elesewhere. I will check it out. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 10:56, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

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Just wanted to say thank you for doing the early half of the review. About 1 week after you went on vacation Fight for This Love reached GA after another user kindly picked it up. Thanks Lil-unique1 (talk) 23:05, 4 July 2010 (UTC)

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Hi! Would you be so kind to give me some examples (sources) on the Latinisation (USSR). It seems very curious. -- Mibelz (talk) 17:47, 12 July 2010 (UTC).

Hi, it is not a subject that I have any knowledge. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 18:33, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

I was very lucky that you are a member of WikiProject Chess. Again I need your help in editing the article Business chess. Please see my recent blog about the Interactive Cognitive Scenario in the discussion section - Talk:Business chess. Ovakim (talk) 12:17, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

See section "Description". I want to replace the phrase "They also can define the degree of importance of each variant by giving it marks (points)" to the phrase "«They also can change the degree of importance of each variant by moving (transferring?) it marks»". It is more correct. Please check the English. Ovakim (talk) 17:33, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Hello! I tried to make the article Business chess clearer. To do this, I moved some phrases and made a small clarification. All changes made before the section "Interactive Cognitive Scenario - Demonstration boards". Please see the new version of the text here User:Ovakim/Sandbox. Please check the English. Make the necessary changes. Your opinion. Is this version of the article more clear? Ovakim (talk) 17:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

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Are hundreds of edits like this really necessary? You added a single blank line to the article before a stub tag. These clog up watch lists and Special:RecentChangesLinked/Index_of_chess_articles and make it really hard to keep track of the important changes (vandalism and otherwise). Quale (talk) 00:45, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Please see Wikipedia:AWB#Rules_of_use, #4. This is the kind of thing that makes me dislike AWB intensely. Quale (talk) 04:30, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Most of the edits are minor so you can hide minor edits from the option near the top of any watchlist. Well I've just read those rules for the first time and shall desist from making General fixes only. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 14:16, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

There's also a "skip if only white-space changed" check box - and others to reduce "noise". Rich Farmbrough, 19:39, 5 September 2010 (UTC).

Thanks Rich, I'm using that now. What I don't fully know is the line between minor and none minor edits. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 19:43, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandals can mark edits "minor" too, so that isn't satisfactory. Thanks for reading the WP:AWB rules. You've made a lot of pointless edits like these in the past, so I probably should have spoken up sooner. This last batch was the straw that broke the camel's back for me. Quale (talk) 22:11, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Wonder if you would stop by something I am working on? Your opinion would be welcome --Senra (Talk) 18:45, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi Senra, Somehow I noticed that earlier today. It's a good interesting read, and I entirely agree with where your coming from. In the past I went through the same process of noticing that Wikipedia was quite harsh on newbies - so did a few things like improving Wikipedia:Starting an article, asked for a clear link to it on new articles(which half heartily happened) and requested a Wikiproject editors harmony(which flopped instantly), so somewhat limited success. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 19:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

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Thank you for your continued help. For your information only (i.e. not for action :), I have posted a request on JohnCD (talk · contribs)'s talk page here --Senra (Talk) 14:14, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I believe that the awards are notable and that if added to the article will make sure that it survives at least through CSD(see Popjustice £20 Music Prize for example). The article requires more references and I doubt an inexperienced editor would do enough to withstand an AFD. If you contact the WP:ARS and give them the many links to news posted on your talk page then I believe if someone is interested enough and takes the time to go through the references, then the article can be made to pass AFD, there are 50+ newspaper links, but each of them, that I checked so far, is somewhat minor. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 16:00, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

On further checking I believe that it's notable in it's own right through WP:CLUB(Charities are Non-commercial organizations I assume), because the quality of newspaper coverage handles Wikipedia:Notability_(organizations_and_companies)#Primary_criteria. Not everyone may agree with me however(!) LOL. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 16:11, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

You can see I am struggling here, so thank you. I had seen a few awards but I felt (wrongly?) that as the awards were given by the charity not to the charity, they did not make the charity itself notable. I have to keep telling myself I am trying to help an inexperienced editor here; not do it all myself :) I am also diverting myself from other articles. I will be dropping this for now. It has enough references (IMHO) to sit quietly in user-space plus I have added your references (attirbuted of course) to the article talk page. When the original editor surfaces, I will help him/her to improve the article further. Thank you once again --Senra (Talk) 16:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I checked WP:ARS and I do not think Counsel and Care qualified as it is not (erm, yet) in the AFD process --Senra (Talk) 16:55, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, your thinking correctly that the award giver isn't automatically notable but the award itself maybe. When the two things are on the same page (as if it's merged) then it should pass CSD. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 17:17, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking that the Counsel and Care article might now survive long enough for a DYK nomination using hook Did you know that the UK charity, Counsel and Care, were one of the first to propose a "death tax" as a method to fund the care of the elderly? What do you think? We still need to watch the article as Care4elderly (talk · contribs) is busy putting contact details in (and I am busy taking them out again) and I feel that there is currently too much WP:SPS that will need culling

Good idea with the DYK, go for it! The article needs culling a fair bit from SPS and material not suitable for an encyclopaedia. It's perhaps best that the article creator won't be around to wreck add more information. I will edit when at a PC later. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 18:15, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK would have been nice but the article will fail due not enough expansion within five days --Senra (Talk) 21:19, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Can you point be to the DYK rules. Which five days by the way? Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:23, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Got it Wikipedia:DYK#Selection_criteria. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:40, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

"Articles that have been worked on exclusively in a user or user talk subpage and then moved (or in some cases pasted) to the article mainspace are considered new as of the date they reach the mainspace.". Debatable! Moved to mainspace yesterday. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 21:43, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Page logs show it was deleted CSD#A7 on 1 September. At the time the original article was moved from user-space on 8 August 2010 it was 1,944 bytes (page size prose only); the article is currently 2,831 bytes (page size prose only). This, unfortunately, is not a five-times expansion within five days --Senra (Talk) 22:14, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Okay. Regards, SunCreator ^(talk) 22:22, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

I am going to give it a shot (just checked in IRC and they feel it is within the spirit of DYK but we will see) --Senra (Talk) 22:30, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

Wow! Counsel and Care DYK got accepted! --Senra (Talk) 08:47, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

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