User talk:Slakr/Archive 14

This is an archive of past discussions with User:Slakr. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.

First, some background: There is an anonymous user that frequents the reference desks that consistently and stubbornly refuses to sign their posts pretty much 100% of the time. They have been doing this for months, and Sinebot has warned them probably dozens of times. However, their IP address jumps around every few weeks (because of his ISP, I think). His most recent IPs have been 82.43.89.27, 82.43.89.90, and 82.43.89.14. He doesn't vandalize, but on several occasions (one, two, and three) other editors have gotten sick of it, 82.43.89.x gets defensive, and things become incivil. After the first two incidents, I tried to resolve it (see here and here), but didn't get anywhere. I forgot about it for a while, but after I saw the most recent incident I thought it should be dealt with.

Since I am not sure that an IP range block would be a good thing to do first thing (because of the tag on User talk:82.43.89.154), I was wondering if Sinebot could be tweaked to effectively enforce a conditional topic ban on the 82.43.89.x range. Instead of enabling them with more {{unsignedIP}}s, I thought it would be best for the bot to actually remove any unsigned posts by 82.43.89.x to WP:RD/C, WP:RD/H, WP:RD/L, WP:RD/M, WP:RD/S, WP:RD/E, WP:RD/Misc, and WT:RD, and then also still leave a message on the user talk page. That way we aren't causing any collateral damage, and the user is effectively banned until he conforms. Is this something feasible, or allowed? I don't really want to take it to ANI without exploring other options first. —Akrabbim^talk 22:02, 23 February 2010 (UTC)

I might be able to increase the signing delay in specific cases like this, but I have no intention to start using it as an anti-abuse bot--if I even had the time to do it in the first place. :P Sorry. :\ --slakr^\ talk / 16:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

That won't be necessary. After I posted this, I noticed the "frolicking with chaos" banner of yours, and took it to AN/I. The issue has now been resolved. Thanks anyway. —Akrabbim^talk 16:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for the inappropriate speedy deletion nomination on that redirect...somehow overlooked that it was only supposed to be used for recently created redirs. Thank you for pointing me to RFD. While it seems a little overly-bureaucratic in this case, rules is rules. Regards. Doniago (talk) 16:30, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Replied on your talk page. Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 16:46, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Let's face it. SineBot had a good life, a nice career, and really was a pathbreaker. But now, Siney is past its prime.

It is not useful anymore and many are not excited by its nosy attitude.

Could you retire Sine Bot? It would help create a better, more productive atmosphere here on the wiki. Lets just can the ol' Bot!

I will contribute a couple of bucks to buy SineBot a watch or something for a retirement present in recognition of its service. But lets get rid of good ol sinebot ASAP. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.206.138.33 (talk) 22:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, Jack Kevorkian is no longer doing euthanasia, and I can't in good conscious kill my own son. It doesn't really matter, though, because I'm sure he's gonna turn up dead one of these days--the mafia has had a price on his head ever since he stole some huge shipment of crack. Ever since then, he's been signing, naked, 24/7. The dude's seriously wired. --slakr^\ talk / 16:31, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Actually I am very grateful for Sinebot, as I always mean to sign what I write (wasn't that a line Rob Rowe memorably delivered in West Wing?) but tend to be absent minded after several "show previews." I wonder if Slakr could design a bot we could attach to individual accounts, so every time we hit "save page" it either asks if we've signed it, or automatically adds those four tilda's (which are tedious to type)? That way sinebot becomes a personal choice, account by account.ElijahBosley (talk) 16:45, 2 March 2010 (UTC)

Was it you who recommended my post on Composition of the Earth for deletion?

It was an article in embryo created after a wiki search for information on this topic. Many other encyclopedias have articles specifically on composition of the Earth and the fact that Wiki had one on composition of the atmosphere but none on composition of the Earth I felt was a lack. An alternative would be to have a redirect from this subject if you feel the material is covered already.

Hope this helps. John D. Croft (talk) 19:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that. I dunno what I was thinking. I've now redirected Composition of the Earth accordingly. Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 01:36, 28 February 2010 (UTC)

Hi there.

Thanks for a taking a look at my post on the 3RR board. You closed it as protected, but I think we need a different solution.

As I see it, there are two problems as things stand. First, the user has been edit warring on both Drum and Drum kit, but only Drum has been granted page protection. The edit warring is continuing at Drum kit, although it has died down in the past two days while everyone waited for action from 3RR.

Second, full page protection seems to be overkill for a page that is only being abused by a single user. No one can make even grammatical changes until the protection lapses, and when it does lapse, the user in question has clearly stated that he plans to disregard consensus and 3RR.

I hope you'll take another look and reconsider.

Thanks. — Bdb484 (talk) 19:07, 4 March 2010 (UTC)

Don't know if you're still too busy with real life to take a look at this, but I've reposted the notice now that the page protection has lapsed. The offending user has, of course, returned to continue the edit war. — Bdb484 (talk) 14:24, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

I wanna know why dis gay dude deleted my fucking article

Hmm, Plant Music? The main reason was, of course, that it was an obvious hoax and/or was vandalism. Apart from that, it was my pet fern that told me to. It heard through the grapevine that none of the other ferns knew of the music to which the article referred. Then again, the grapevine and/or my fern might be lying to me (much like they did that one time when they misled me into thinking that they would make beets taste yummier if I left a dime-bag of fertilizer under the fern). So, if you feel that an error was made, feel free to suggest undeletion. --slakr^\ talk / 14:18, 8 March 2010 (UTC)

as for pet fwerns and dudes - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citra_Indah_Residence - 9 month free advertising - what would you do? (user name and name and phone number at bottom of art :( ) SatuSuro 13:44, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Zapped. For obvious spam/advertising like that, in the future feel free to simply tag it with {{db-spam}}. --slakr^\ talk / 14:15, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi, so considering I wrote the article, I don't understand how it could be copyright infringement. Could you perhaps help me put the article together please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smittysaint (talk • contribs) 17:06, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

In that case, it would also meet criteria for speedy deletion - blatant advertising due to its overwhelmingly promotional tone. I would also highly suggest that you read our spamming, conflict of interest, and your first article guidelines. --slakr^\ talk / 06:12, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Oi.

Give me an archive of my article, I need to show it to someone. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dilsl (talk • contribs) 00:02, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello,

I wish to note that a very worthy page on a notable person was deleted. The relevant sources were checked and the addition of Mark Boardman page has all the details relevant to the page. He is a TV personality and has been on BBC, Channel 4 and runs the promotions for all the UK film premiere and is listed on many websites as a celebrity.

Myself and several other people complied the page and before removing as it was deleted before, for the sake of history add this.

Please review this file as deleting it is a very lazy way of not being impartial. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.152.0.2 (talk) 11:32, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

It was deleted due to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mark Boardman. You're free to request undeletion, but it would be a good idea to avoid calling impartial people biased, especially when they couldn't care less about who the person is or what network he's on, but rather whether the content of the article is in accordance with our policies and guidelines. --slakr^\ talk / 04:32, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello, this is a friendly notification.

In the past, you supported promoting wp:quote into protocol. Currently, there is a discussion in an attempt to gather consensus to this ratification.

If you are interested, you can show your support there.

Thank you.174.3.110.108 (talk) 02:24, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Why ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.155.19.14 (talk) 08:14, 12 March 2010 (UTC) Please help me on this . I am Doctor from Karachi Pakistan associated in educating the hazards of mining and mineral milling . —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.155.19.14 (talk) 08:15, 12 March 2010 (UTC)

Follow the links in the deletion summary. Also check out your first article. --slakr^\ talk / 11:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

you deleted the entry... WHY?! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.70.186 (talk) 22:42, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

Follow the links in the deletion summary. Also check out your first article. --slakr^\ talk / 11:10, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

According to this I have to verify with the person I want to nominate for adminship. Since sinebot is not a person, I am going to you in advance. I am asking your clearance far in advance of April 1st, when I plan to submit the nomination. Thank You, please reply to me on my talk page. Outback the koala (talk) 07:48, 18 February 2010 (UTC)

I still haven't heard back from you - please reply to me on my talk page, Thank You. Outback the koala (talk) 03:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Unless you object, I would like to resurrect this (back into the Incubator). I put it there for a reason: I know it would be a G4 in the mainspace, and in fact I deleted it G4 before incubating it, but I have been fending off his fans who were agitating on my talk page by pointing them to this and telling them to improve it and then ask User:Arbitrarily0, the closing admin from the AfD, who has agreed to that strategy. I have protected the title so they can't just move it back. If they don't have the incubator version to play with, they will just come back and hassle me us again. I don't expect it will go anywhere, and if it doesn't I will zap it in a month or so. Regards, JohnCD (talk) 16:35, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

Having read this edit I now understand why you deleted this; but as explained above this is not a case of trying to preserve deleted material indefinitely, but of challenging supporters who claim notability to do something to show it instead of complaining and asking for undeletion. As you don't seem to be around today, I have taken the liberty of restoring without waiting for your reply; let me know if you are unhappy with this. It will be either sent to DRV after improvement or zapped within a month. JohnCD (talk) 21:50, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

That's cool. I was mainly just worried about someone trying to GAME the system and stick it on AI to keep the name and the article's content around. --slakr^\ talk / 14:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

An editor have removed the "All-Steinway Schools" category from St. Mary's University of Minnesota. According to the universities official website[1] and according to Steinway's official website[2], St. Mary's University of Minnesota as an All-Steinway School. Fanoftheworld (talk) 08:48, 26 March 2010 (UTC).

I have no idea why SineBot keeps yelling at me for not signing when I type 4 tildes. I did notice last time I fooled around with it on a guys Talk Page here ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Scray ) that it takes a few minutes for the "gripe" to appear. Good luck fixing it, or whatever you want to do (i.e. opt me out, etc.) Best regards: Cliff (will type 4 tildes at the end of this (total) post ...

FOLLOWING THIS SENTENCE IS THE COPY-N-PASTE TEXT FROM THAT TALK PAGE CONTAINING 4 CONSECUTIVE INSTANCES WHERE I SIGNED WITH 4 TILDES AND YOUR (very cool) SINEBOT "ACCUSED" ME OF NOT SIGNING ...

Response to Your Message to Me

Dear Scray:

Below here (in italics I hope) is the comment you left me earlier:

Two gentle reminders: (i) no article on WP can be owned by any of us, so your reference to "my ... article" is understandable but misstated (I realize that you did not mean to suggest you own it, but it's best to suppress use of that possessive determiner when referring to WP articles), and (ii) it's easy to sign your posts in Talk space with 4 tildes, i.e. "Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 23:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC)". BTW, very nice work on the article, sorry I don't have images to offer. -- Scray (talk) 19:06, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

1. First things first - nice to "meet" you :-)

2. There's never any need, with me at least, to worry about being "gentle" - I like it straight and rough :-O LOL.

3. Your point on the "my article" thing is well-taken - I'll do my best to suppress the use of the possessive determiner thingy, as well as any semi-pluperfect pseudo-tenses and other bizarre stuff I'm well known for.

4. Thank much for your very kind compliments on the article that I do NOT own :-) and thanks anyway on the pic request.

5. After the "Sinbot" thing yelled at me the the first time I forgot to sign with the 4 tildes, I have been VERY careful to do the four tildes thing every time (I think) ... BUT, while my signature - the Cliff Knickerbocker, M.S. etc. text - DOES appear every time I use the 4 tildes, I STILL get the same Sinbot complaint, and good folks like you also remind me to sign. I truly don't have a clue what I'm doing wrong.

To show you what I mean, I will type "With best regards: Cliff" below, hit RETURN twice, then 4 tildes. TTYL!

With best regards: Cliff

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 23:46, 28 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs) [edit] Ex Post Facto Signature Clinical Trial (n=1)

Looks like it worked that time - FIGURES! Maybe I am indeed forgetting the tildes sometimes. Ugh - my apologies. Now, if you need me for anything, you can find me hiding in the corner ... I will be the dude with the red face :-)

Best regards: Cliff (experiment: hits return twice AFTER typing the 4 tildes to see if that matters ...

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 23:56, 28 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

I give up, and plead guilty to one count of absent-mindedness, one of stupidity, and one of cluelessness!

Best regards: Cliff Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 23:57, 28 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs) [edit] Motion to Withdraw Guilty Plea

See what I mean? It took a couple minutes, but then the "unsigned" notice comes up. AAARRGGGHHH!!!

What am I doing wrong?

Best regards:Cliff

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 00:01, 29 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 00:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

• I would gather it is because you are signing as something other-than-your-username and not linking to your userpage. Please fix your signature to include at least one link to your user page, user talk page, or contributions. –xeno^talk 00:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Follow Up

When my added text first appeared, it was O.K. - my sig was there, and no "gripe" from your 'Bot. Best regards: Cliff

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 00:21, 29 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

Griping at Me Again, and I'm INNOCENT (I think) ==

OK, after I added the next section, the previous sig (which was OK at first, now has a "gripe" from your Bot. I must be doing SOMETHING wrong. Sorry!

Best regards: Cliff

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 00:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

• Please see my comment above and at your talk page. –xeno^talk 00:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Hey Xeno

Will try to do so. Give me a minute. Thanks.

Regards: Cliff

Cliff L. Knickerbocker, MS DDF 00:25, 29 March 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Uploadvirus (talk • contribs)

Thanks. No need to create a new section every time. Best, –xeno^talk 00:26, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello Slakr, you may like to visit the Lounge forum at www.metropol247.co.uk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gavin Scott (talk • contribs) 10:41, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

No thanks. By the way, google ignores spam links on here, so "spreading the word" is probably going to result in people not only not visiting your site, but likely developing prejudices against it. --slakr^\ talk / 00:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi Kurt. As you appear on my watchlist I presume you saw my Wikipage. Are you good at uploading photos to the article and placing them where I would want them? Have a good day. Reginald.Reginald gray (talk) 11:12, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

Not really; I don't deal with images that much on here. I've found, however, that our uploading interface is actually quite easy to use and straightforward, and if you want more info on using and uploading files in general, check out Help:Files as well as our picture tutorial. --slakr^\ talk / 00:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

That your dog, cute? Danny Boy 420 03:10, 6 April 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Danny Boy 420 (talk • contribs)

Not my dog; check out the image's description for more info. --slakr^\ talk / 00:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Since you operate SineBot and I can't find a record of any other administrator on the history of my article: did you recommend my article "Nic Armstrong & the Thieves" for deletion and if so, why? Please read my talk page for why I think this article should not be deleted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cicero in utero (talk • contribs) 08:32, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

No, but according to the page history, the criteria for speedy deletion nomination was made in this edit. --slakr^\ talk / 00:13, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Why was the entry on The Backwards Music Station deleted? Jpaco15 (talk) 08:59, 9 April 2010 (UTC)Jpaco15

It was deleted because it was moved into the user space of the person who created and was pretty much solely editing it, so the only thing that was actually deleted was really the redirect. Now that you mention it, it also looks like there's another lingering copy of something similar out there over User:Editor510/Backwards Music Station. The AFD was leaning toward merging with Numbers station, but there didn't seem to be any solid consensus. --slakr^\ talk / 00:23, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Sinebot marked this edit as minor, which hid it from my watchlist. Kind of annoying - I saw the bar appear on my watchlist and no edit to User talk:Gwern, and had to ponder for a minute before I realized why that was so. Perhaps user talk edits should not be marked minor. --Gwern (contribs) 14:33 15 February 2010 (GMT)

I'm assuming the diff you were talking about is this one. They're marked as minor 'cause they're minor. :P That said, if it doesn't cause the watchlist to fall back to the previous edit (in the event that you've set to ignore minor edits and the most recent edit is minor with non-minor edits as well), it might be something to consider filing as a bug/"unexpected feature" report with the mediawiki dudes. :P --slakr^\ talk / 06:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk%3ABwilkins&action=historysubmit&diff=355481289&oldid=355474022

In my capacity as a BAG member: Why is Sinebot operating signed out? What will you do to stop that happening in the future? Josh Parris 07:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

When SineBot signed that post, it was logged in: [3] - it appears that an anonymous user removed the auto-signature. –xeno^talk 19:18, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

My Bad. Josh Parris 00:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I should also note that the bot only edits when it's logged in, obsesses about it if it can't, and fails if it repeatedly fails to detect being logged in. If that weren't enough, last time I checked the range it edits from is still blocked. :P --slakr^\ talk / 06:10, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi I don't know what to, even when I type the tildes my signing thing wont work.

Please Help.

-Thanks

Polish Winged Hussar (talk) 16:44, 12 April 2010 (UTC) Polish Winged Hussar

Hiya. It looks like you got it to work, unless I'm mistaken. Just remember it's four tildes, and you'll be good to go. =) --slakr^\ talk / 06:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it hasn't been signing recently. Thanks. – ukexpat (talk) 19:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

It should be back up and running. Thanks for the heads up =) --slakr^\ talk / 06:12, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Ok so technically I've never seen you. Anyway glad to know some admin from when I was a major anti-vandel patrolling is still around. Question for you, why does this article still exist. It seems to be completely un-wiki like and pointless. Thought I would bring it to your attention.

oh and if you forgot who I am, I'm the guy who made this little userbox

This user is followed by SineBot

because I kept forgetting to sign stuff. --Pewwer42  Talk  11:48, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Ah cool. Nice to see ya again =) With regard to the article, feel free to nominate it for deletion via AFD or possibly proposed deletion if it hasn't been tagged in the past. As far as I can see, it doesn't seem to meet any criteria for speedy deletion. --slakr^\ talk / 20:46, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

...may be of interest. (Suggested that SineBot should "subst" any transcluded "unsigned" templates when it is already signing for another user on a page). –xeno^talk 20:49, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I see you wrote on the Laura Secord page. I am doing a Heritage Fair Project on Laura, and im making my bibliography and im just wondering what your name is.

Thank You. Alymuffin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.68.99.42 (talk) 23:06, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

I would love to sign my entries using the 4 tildas, as I have been doing for years. Unfortunately my uid appears to be in never never land, and I may not be able to recover to the point where I am using my old account. Got any suggestions as to how I might be granted access to my account? See my entry in the Help Desk/logon section. blackcloak —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.87.73.86 (talk) 06:50, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

If you've both lost the password, didn't confirm your email address, and don't have a second method of positively verifying who you match the identity of the account (e.g., a publicly-pre-posted SHA-512 hash or PGP public key), it might be difficult, if not impossible, for you to recover your account, unfortunately. :( --slakr^\ talk / 19:57, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

Your "bot" named, Sinebot taught me a lesson to sign my username initials and it made me happy that you are the one who controled this brainy intelligent robot powered wikibot. Thank you. To reward you, I am giving you a dog. Doggies promote wikilove to other Wikipedians. Thank you! This puppy is going to be hungry, so feed it soon! Here's a good name for your puppy: Biscuit for a boy and Spot for a girl. Enjoy!<--RNelson5577 (talk) 04:02, 16 April 2010 (UTC)

 This template must be substituted. Replace {{Doggy ...}} with {{subst:Doggy ...}}.

Hi, I noticed that ProcseeBot isn't doing anything, is it disabled? (I'm mirroring the blocks to fi-wiki, that's why I noticed..) --Harriv (talk) 10:44, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

It looks like it couldn't log in, because it's now required by the api that it run a request for an lgtoken, then send it back to be completely logged in. Should be back now. --slakr^\ talk / 18:15, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

Looks like it has stopped again? --Harriv (talk) 10:08, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Procseebot's unblock request asks (perhaps) the wrongly blocked user to write down his/her ip address along with the unblock request template. If that's the case, could you kindly look into it and see whether this needs correction (as it might lead logged in wrongly blocked users to reveal their ip address forcefully, and might cause an outing concern). If that's not the case, give me a kick and get me rolling out of the way :) Best ♪ ♫ Wifione ♫ ♪ _―Œ ^{♣Łeave Ξ мessage♣} 11:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

The same concern exists in cases of general non-anon-only ip blocks. Anyone concerned about outing is free to privately contact a checkuser or an admin, depending on how concerned they are about their privacy. Also, depending on the scenario, other options exist:

1. The block is no longer accurate i.e., there isn't an open proxy on their computer/network. They can simply edit their ip's talk page while logged out to request an unblock. This could happen in the event that it's an issue with a shared ip pool being reassigned from a computer with the proxy to another user without one. The request to unblock could go something like this:
   {{unblock|zOMG! I'm like...totally blocked from...like...the site. I'm a legit user, but I really don't want to post my ip in my unblock request on my user talk page, so I'm posting it here for someone to check to make sure there's no world-usable proxies still running on it.}}
2. They need to request an ip block exemption. If for some reason an ip block exemption is needed and #1 somehow doesn't apply, then they'll probably need to contact a checkuser to figure out what's going on. In either case, they can place a non-revealing request to unblock using something like the following:
   {{unblock|zOMG! Dude! I... it's just... argh... DUDE! I'm soooo wrongly blocked, but I don't want to reveal my ip address, 'cause I'm wanted by the feds. Just kidding about the feds part, but yeah, I guess I need a checkuser to help with this.}}.

Worst case, if you accidentally post your ip/any other personal details to your user talk page, contact the oversighters immediately and it will be deleted from the page history and any future, publicly-available database dumps.

In the particular case of ProcseeBot, any admin is always free to reverse the bot's block at any time and it will not be re-blocked by the bot.

Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 18:41, 18 April 2010 (UTC)

User Nmate " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Nmate " makes vandalism, delete historical relevant fact, espetialy in slovak-hungarian history. Problem in Wikipedia is nationalism. Geographical name in all Hungarian Kingdom was till the 19th century LATIN, than it was local names and in 1907 after Lex Apponyi was changed to Hungarian in all kingdom. They put hungarian names in all history of kingdom. Its big problem in thousand articles. i have 3 solutions, we can use official historical names in that period for exmaple: 1001 - 1867 LATIN NAME, 1867 - 1918 HUNGARIAN NAMES, 1918 to present SLOVAK, ROMANIAN etc. geographical names. Next use the local names in that time, if not we can use name from solution one. In the 3th solution we can use present geographical names in countries where this personality or region belongs. STOP WITH HUNGARIAN NATIONALISM AND MAGYARIZATION OF WIKIPEDIA! Thanx for answer (Samofi (talk) 11:25, 21 April 2010 (UTC))

You probably know that when XLinkBot is about to create a new user talk page, it includes a welcome message. Perhaps SineBot should do the same? mechamind90 02:48, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Your pet robot keeps harassing me about signing my posts. I don't see the point when my IP address signature will be automatically added for my by your pet bot. I'm just too lazy. Let's see if he does it for this post to... :-D —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.148.206.90 (talk) 01:14, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Of course, the same thing can be said of littering-- eventually someone will come along and pick it up, but ideally it never comes to that. :P --slakr^\ talk / 01:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

And of course since sinebot isn't currently working (at least I think so since it hasn't made any contribs since the 24th) if you did post without signing now someone else is going to have to spend 30 seconds or more finding out who made the post if they want to sign it for you, something which would have taken you like 2 seconds Nil Einne (talk) 08:40, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

:-=) oops woohoot ... (so thats why I got zapped too)

Ok point noted... but just the four wavy things are needed ...

not the two BRACKETS as well - because that just plays havick with my brain eh? (oh (& it screws it all UP like this ))

...

so here it is WITH the brackets included as instructed

(Roxburgh NZ (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC))

& after a double enter . to go lower (again)

heres 4 wavy things without brackets

Roxburgh NZ (talk) 15:03, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Nah - littering is sweet eh? As...

Self destruct mode usually occurs within several hundred years eh?

But I did get ONE reply - a few seconds ago - that "led me to that bOT

ahah - now i see.. he won't catch me too many times again that will?

Any chance of it starting work again? DuncanHill (talk) 14:40, 1 May 2010 (UTC)

Done. --slakr^\ talk / 20:30, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 20:32, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

SineBot apparently added the {{tilde}} note to a user who didn't make any open discussion page edits in at least 5 days. mechamind90 02:58, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

The bot doesn't just monitor discussion pages (i.e., *Talk: namespaces). Editors can also request that it monitor non-talk namespace pages, including AfD and, in this case, edits like this to a Wikipedia:-namespace discussion page. They do so by including the page in a hidden category. In this particular instance, the user's User and/or User talk page wasn't internally linked in the sig per WP:SIG. --slakr^\ talk / 10:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello I am an editor here on wikipedia. There is this other editor cosmic latte who has been vandalising the Michael jackson Page with the last 24 hours he has made over 50 edits to major parts of the article without even discussing with other editors who have been warning him. he has in the passed been guilty of vandalism. Please speak with him. I also believe that he uses other names such as TimothyHorrigan and Rodhullandemu. please speak with this individual he has put block on his vandalism so you cant undo what he has done. This is making wikipedia look really bad as Michael Jackson is one of the most searched article .Knighttrain (talk) 22:41, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Thx for the tools.

slakr, http://toolserver.org/~slakr/3rr.php saith:

404: User account expired

The page you requested is hosted by the Toolserver user slakr, whose account has expired. Toolserver user accounts are automatically expired if the user is inactive for over six months. To prevent stale pages remaining accessible, we automatically block requests to expired content.

If you think you are receiving this page in error, or you have a question, please contact the owner of this document: slakr [at] toolserver [dot] org. (Please do not contact Toolserver administrators about this problem, as we cannot fix it—only the Toolserver account owner may renew their account.)

This is you? Page is linked off http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:AN/EW. --Elvey (talk) 20:16, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, and I've now sent an email to DaB requesting renewal. In my opinion it's a bit too controlling of a policy to require people to renew accounts if they're using trivial amounts of resources and/or the tools being hosted are actually used by people, but I guess that's not my decision to make. :P Apparently they started not only disabling the accounts of people who don't constantly log in to them, but also yank the tools, as well. Meh. Sorry in any case. --slakr^\ talk / 10:03, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Is it necessary for it to write —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iankap99 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 14 May 2010 (UTC) Rather than just signing it for us like --Iankap99 (talk) 04:43, 14 May 2010 (UTC) I propose that the bot just sign the signatures as if we had signed it ourselves. --Iankap99 (talk) 03:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

How about checkbox in Misc preferences |_| Sign all my talk page comments automatically.? If I check the box on my preferences page, Sinebot sees it and instead of putting an anonymous signature on the talk page and leaving me a message about it, it just signs my signature to the talk page and leaves no message for me. Svanslyck (talk) 11:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

This gets my vote :) My clunky old text-based email program could do it, as could every email client since. Would be a welcome addition (especially if user configurable). Not sure what implications it might have for reliability, but it doesn't seem infeasible. Maybe a "sign" button if automagic signing isn't feasible. (I often end up using different keyboard configs that like to shuffle key locations like tilde and pipe :() Moretz (talk) 13:48, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

The long and short of it is basically that there are extensions that attempt to do such a thing, and there are some javascript skin add-ons that will also bug you in a similar fashion, but both of them aren't reliable enough to claim to automatically sign comments with any solid accuracy. SineBot is here on the assumption that most people will remember to sign comments and will catch a good portion of the most common instances where users will forget to sign comments, but even then will make mistakes in an attempt to be both effective (by signing) and correct (by trying to not annoy/mis-sign). Most of the "automatic signing" alternatives fail either on one or the other, or sometimes both prongs in the balance of trying to parse talk page actions. Thus, if the incidence of false positives/false negatives is generally low by getting editors to habitually sign, but it is significantly higher in all available autosigning technologies (i.e., the alternatives), it would seem to me that the simplest, easiest, and most effective method of signing is to get people to habitually sign their posts and aim for the exception to the rule rather than trying to ineffectively replace it. *shrug* I could be wrong, though. --slakr^\ talk / 10:15, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Well, how about this. Change Sinebot's message to remove the "Unsigned comment signed by..." and then add a default-enabled preference to "Sign my posts automatically." No more need for anyone to remember to ~~~~ unless they opt out of automatic signing. kcylsnavS ^{screech} 22:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Since Sine-Bot wasn't available; (He's a bot, eh?) I had to come to you. I'm sorry. I'll sign more on my posts. Catch ya later! --MRPICKLE1234 (talk) 15:17, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Sinebot is too fast. I/we need maybe 15 seconds to fix stuff. May I ask the bot be slowed down a bit? kcylsnavS ^{screech} 22:23, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Seconded; particularly on Talk page vandalism. Even a one-minute delay would mean we don't have to press the "Rollback" button to find the bot has already signed a crap edit, which essentially triples our response time. Rodhullandemu 22:27, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Plus I ain't got rollback rights except on my own wiki, which doesn't run Sinebot.  ;) kcylsnavS ^{screech} 22:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)

Thirty seconds seems good. --Iankap99 (talk) 03:31, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry... this was a bug on my end. I was actually about to reply, "but it already has a 1-minute delay," apparently to immediately edit afterwards, "...that apparently it wasn't using." It was using an ntp-synched time clock that had drifted, in seconds, too much, and while sinebot a function to deal with that very problem, it wasn't using it in one spot. :\ Bleh. Should be better now. --slakr^\ talk / 16:26, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

...btw, rollback's not anything significant. There are tons of wiki scripts that emulated the function long before +rollbacker even existed. :P --slakr^\ talk / 16:29, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Sinebot was too fast/
But I see it's working now/
Life now has meaning/

kcylsnavS{^screech_harrass} 17:15, 16 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi Slakr - one question - just noticed this example of a user signing on en.wp using their meta template. I realize the user could opt-out of auto-signing per the FAQ - but I am wondering if this is something that sinebot should check for (or - if it doesn't happen often enough to be worth coding for...) - less of a request, and more of an FYI I guess. Thanks  7  04:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Hey. I reverted removal of some Talk page comments, and SineBot signed them as if I had made them - [4]. Any clues? Everard Proudfoot (talk) 06:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

After a 'final warning', when SineBot adds its l1 warning, this can mislead administrators and other users.

A specific example, on User_talk:70.116.134.247.

• I issued a 'final warning'.

• SineBot then issued its l1 warning.

• The user continued to disrupt, so I requested a block on AN[5] - but it was turned down, because the administrator did not see the previous final warning.

This results in the editor receiving confusing message - a 'final warning' followed by further warnings.  Chzz  ►  07:15, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

it's more complicated code/greater development time/greater maintenance to parse the numerous forms of warning / final warning that are out there, so I didn't. :P If an admin declines it, either bring it up on his talk page or ask someone else. :P --slakr^\ talk / 19:13, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I received a link to this page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:89.101.75.147#December_2009 when I opened Wikipedia this morning. I have never had a Wikipedia account and am not responsible for the two revisions for which I have been accused. I wrote this on the page as you can see, proving my ineptitude with even the notion of editing Wikipedia. I demand an explanation and a rebuttal of these accusations. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.75.147 (talk) 10:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

IP addresses are a finite resource on the internet. Typical ISPs recycle them using DHCP. You are/were likely using an IP address someone else had used at another point in time. Creating an account can eliminate these sort of things, as messages on your talk page are only directed toward you. --slakr^\ talk / 19:09, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

I have a question about SineBot's page. is it supposed to have that "enjoys editing wikipedia without wearing clothes" thing? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Monk Preston (talk • contribs) 22:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC) Thanks SineBot! Monk~Preston (talk) 22:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes. Much like the other user boxes, it merely serves to set the tone/enumerate some basic concepts on Wikipedia, including WP:HUMOR. --slakr^\ talk / 19:11, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

All right, just checking. ~Monk (^Chat _Harrass) 21:22, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

Template:NoAutosign has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you.   — Jeff G. ツ 02:21, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

IM WANT TO SAY THAT OTTOMANS MOST LAND WAS 29.357.000'e 1913 THE MOST AND THE SITE IS http://site.mynet.com/asal16/index/id8.htm CHECK IT OUT IM NOT lying to you and mongol was 44,000,000. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ozgurcantc (talk • contribs) 17:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

zOMG! No way! I never knew that. Anyway, thanks for the heads up, and cheers. --slakr^\ talk / 13:16, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Hi there slakr! I have a question regarding your ProcseeBot. The other day, I stumbled upon this list of proxies, and decided to try a few. I was happy to see that almost all servers on that page were blocked on Wikipedia by your bot.

However, I noticed something after setting 74.115.1.10:80 as my proxy. Currently, this ip can still be found on the 3rd page of the list, the check date being "23-may-10 17:02". After that, when I went to Special:MyTalk, I noticed that my address had become 69.22.184.10. Apparently, the 74 server redirects my traffic through 69. Neither of these addresses are blocked, which made me wonder: does Procsee checks this? Maybe it does, and perhaps Procsee just doesn't monitor the site I linked to, but I couldn't resist notifying you about this.

Side note: this address has also been used by serial troll User:JohnRamirez, but I am not him.

Greetings, 69.22.184.10 (talk) 08:56, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

Because JohnRamirez has again used this address to swear at someone (along with 75.180.57.61),[6] and because you seem too busy to respond, I have now reported it to WP:OP. Cheers, 69.22.184.10 (talk) 18:50, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for blocking you while you were editing :) The procsee bot does catch (at least some of) these asymmetric exit servers. -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 18:53, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Lol, doesn't matter. ;-) Thanks for the quick reaction. Yeah, it was wrong of me to think that procsee wouldn't check that. It just doesn't check http://spys.ru/en/ it seems. Perhaps slakr can add that one to the list? Cheers, theFace 19:08, 25 May 2010 (UTC)

Hello Slakr, is there any possibility for you running this bot at the Portuguese wikipedia? If not, do you know any similar bot that can be used there? Thanks, --Darwinius (talk) 21:28, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

When someone repairs a vandalism, such as [7] or [8] the bot gets confused. HaŋaRoa (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

The deletion of the BGDC page was rude, and immature. We are doing a project documenting Amercian Social Clubs Current and Past, and the club is relevant to American and Bostonian History. Please fix this —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bosgent (talk • contribs) 21:04, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

I'd suggest excluding Wikipedia talk:Sandbox. --Dc987 (talk) 05:43, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

SineBot follows {{bots}} tags for all pages/namespaces. You're welcome to add the tag if you feel there is consensus to do so. --slakr^\ talk / 20:37, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

thank god someone who finnaly has some humor on this site!!! --TJM^cDJ 19:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I routinely sign my posts with four tildas (Beebuk 23:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC)), but they always appear reading "unsigned." Why?Beebuk 23:53, 3 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beebuk (talk • contribs)

I routinely sign my posts with four tildas (Beebuk 23:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC)), but they always appear reading "unsigned." Why?Beebuk 23:54, 3 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beebuk (talk • contribs)

Check FAQ#1. At some point, you likely checked the "Sign my name using the provided wikitext." box under My Preferences/User profile tab/Signature, and your signature then lost the links back to your user page. Try unchecking the box, saving your preferences, and trying again. Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 07:24, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

Reposting from Wikipedia:Village pump (technical). I appreciate User:PleaseStand for referring me to you.

I am looking at a diff page which seems to show SineBot adding attribution to an edit, but not basing its edit on the latest version of the page. Instead its edit was based on the just-prior version of the page: the effect was to revert the prior edit. It seems SineBot may create a timing window between starting an edit and posting the completed edit, during which any other edit that is posted gets lost. In the case of this example, SineBot stepped on itself. The previous edit was a SineBot edit, which got reverted. But if this timing window exists, it could step on any edit that happens to get posted while the window is open. Not the fault of the poster of the lost edit—the edit that is lost is not the edit that is being signed by SineBot.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Malamanteau&diff=next&oldid=361925161

Cheers! MetaEd (talk) 19:50, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

It cues an edit in a way similar to how a user might open the editing tab and start typing. It retains the revision timestamp of the unsigned edit and posts it when making the later edit so that if an edit is made in the meantime by another user or the user himself, it will either get accepted or edit conflicted. Unfortunately, in a rare instance like this, the second edit was accepted because the bot queued both edits, which ended up negating the first because it doesn't check whether it's possibly gonna be edit-conflicting itself. I'll have to stick that on the to-do list. --slakr^\ talk / 18:32, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

When someone repairs a vandalism, such as [9] or [10] the bot gets confused. HaŋaRoa (talk) 20:30, 26 May 2010 (UTC)

When someone moves a comment from one talk page to another, such as [11] the bot gets confused. HaŋaRoa (talk) 06:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the repost, but I saw it the first time you posted about this. The bot's not perfect; sorry 'bout that. --slakr^\ talk / 08:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

My signature links to my User and talk pages on commons, which I use far more. Can you tweak Sinebot to handle that a bit better? It keeps adding an additional signature. Adam Cuerden (talk) 14:22, 8 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Adam Cuerden (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the suggestion about signing. Will do so from now on.

George Beker --Wikigbjgb (talk) 17:05, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi Sinebot/ Kurt/ Slakr,

I got this entry from you on my talk page about signing my entries with 4 tildes Fragrantforever 10:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC) and inspite of doing it I always end up getting a not saying preceding unsigned entry. Today I got a comment from Ceaser's daddy advising me to sign my entries. I honestly do sign all my entries however I think Im doing something wrong, maybe something is amiss here. Im new to Wiki so pls help. sorry for the bother. Fragrantforever 10:44, 16 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fragrantforever (talk • contribs)

Hello!

Would it be possible to run the SineBot for other wikiprojects too? What should we do to get that? Helder (talk) 14:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

do i need to be a chronic contributor to get those previliges? Or can I buy them/ Like the one which says the user like Medicine and so on...Fragrantforever 10:50, 16 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fragrantforever (talk • contribs)

You can buy them by donating, or you can "buy" them for free by reading up about them over on the userbox page. :P --slakr^\ talk / 17:53, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

I posted a new section and concluded it with the 4 marks. I KNOW this to be true because my signature consists of my user name + a quote from Wikipedia policy and both appeared after I saved even though I had not manually typed in either. I did note that my post signature was not color-highlighted as a link, so I must not be doing everything correctly. Can you help me please, at your convenience of course. QuintBy : Any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. Even harmful edits that are not explicitly made in bad faith are not vandalism 21:17, 16 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quintby (talk • contribs)

It needs an internal link back to either your user or user talk page, per WP:SIG, and the FAQ at the top of this page. --slakr^\ talk / 17:51, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Shalom, I've an email with the title above. Kindly email me your email address if you think it's useful for the site, Alcohol Intoxication.

Thank you.Yilin Han (talk) 14:33, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm not interested. Besides, I kind of already know them:

1. Almost all ethanol

2-15. Adulterated ethanol.

I'm more of a fan of safer alternatives. :P --slakr^\ talk / 18:05, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi. I used your 3RR tool at http://toolserver.org/~slakr/3rr.php to make this report. It worked for the most part; however, it had to be fixed in these three edits.   — Jeff G. ツ 20:49, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Updated to more current format. Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 09:15, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

I always click on the signature button , but it seems not to work...--Rirunmot 10:53, 22 June 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rirunmot (talk • contribs)

Check FAQ#1. At some point, you likely checked the "Sign my name using the provided wikitext." box under My Preferences/User profile tab/Signature, and your signature then lost the links back to your user page. Try unchecking the box, saving your preferences, and trying again. Cheers =) --slakr^\ talk / 10:13, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

!! --MZMcBride (talk) 13:02, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Laaaame. :P Updated. --slakr^\ talk / 23:41, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi! =)

Did you notice my previous question? (It was archived at User_talk:Slakr/Archive_14#Bot_for_other_wikiprojects)

I would like to know if it is possible to run the SineBot for other wikiprojects too? What should we do to get that for example at portuguese wikibooks/wikipedia? Helder (talk) 20:02, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Could we borrow that Sinebot for the SimpleWiki? I would like to see the code. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 19:41, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh, sorry, no. I am sorry that I didn't see it. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 20:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)

Template:Expire has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. Thank you. Svick (talk) 10:56, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Can SineBot be run on Wikibooks? Kayau Voting IS evil 13:31, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Furthermore, could you make SineBot give me like 1 minute to realize that I need to add my signature? Having all that signed by SineBot mess wastes space, and is embarassing. Why can't it at the very least sign them like normal? --WikiDonn (talk) 04:09, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Its signatures don't reference SineBot; instead, they include a link to the signatures guideline. If you would like SineBot to ignore you, however, please see its user page for more information on opting out. --slakr^\ talk / 09:05, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

Testing —Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiDonn (talk • contribs) 22:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I worded that poorly, but why must it say "preceding unsigned comment added by"? That is very wordy, and the editing view of it contains a lot of code and formatting gibberish, which clutters up the editing view a lot. It does say "Autosigned by SineBot" in hidden text in the editing view, which is what I was referring to before. My main point is why can't SineBot just sign it like normal for us?--WikiDonn (talk) 22:53, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

Re: the wording; if I may interrupt, is from Template:unsigned, with Template:uw-tilde to go with it. If you wish to change it, go to the template talk. I have an idea, lets let Sinebot reference its master here, so we know who to contact for information. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 23:05, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

No harm done, but I thought you might want to know:

1. Editor A made comment.
2. Editor B deleted Editor A's comment.
3. I undid the deletion.
4. SineBot signed me to Editor A's comment. 76.22.25.102 (talk) 01:54, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Edits like this which are being signed by SineBot even though they are only the undoing of someone else's deletion. In this case, the edit being restored is not a good one, but it seems that SineBot will do this on good edits too ... in either case it leads to an edit with two signatures and is harder to revert. Could SineBot be programmed to ignore such cases? —Soap— 00:03, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

even after signing my name with four tildes( Fragrantforever 04:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC) ) after every edit or question, im told i have entered an unsigned entry. This is really annoying, whats wrong here, am i doing something wrong or is there some setting which needs to be changed?--Fragrantforever 04:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fragrantforever (talk • contribs)

Well, it looks to me like you're not linking to your userpage or talk page in your signature, and so the bot is seeing it as not being a "proper" signature. Are you using "Treat the above as wiki markup." in Special:Preferences? I note that the example I posted above is also not a proper signature, but I believe I have seen it act in cases where someone is simply restoring another user's comment, and will post an example if I find one. —Soap— 09:23, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, my apologies, the report two sections above by 76.22.25.102 is a perfect example of what I've seen. I should have seen that before posting here. —Soap— 09:25, 12 July 2010 (UTC)

Help! I, too, am signing with four tildes like mad, but getting "preceding unsigned..." every time. Should the "Treat the above as Wiki markup?" be checked or unchecked. Currently, it is checked on my preferences page. This is what happens: TEHodson 20:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC) Hold on. Should my signature, in the box on my preferences page, be inside brackets? What am I doing wrong!!??TEHodson 20:53, 13 July 2010 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TEHodson (talk • contribs) I put my signature in brackets, and will try signing now. TEHodson 20:58, 13 July 2010 (UTC) That's better, but it's still not linking to my "talk" page. Can anyone help? Thanks.TEHodson 21:03, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

Go to prefs. Look at "Treat the above as Wiki markup"; this checkbox basically determines whether you want a standard or custom sig. If you check it, you will receive the standard sig, like here: Example (talk) 21:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

But if you uncheck the box, you can make any custom sig, but you have to supply the wikicode in the text box. What you are doing wrong is that you put [[TEHodson]] which links to an article whereas putting [[User:TEHodson|TEHodson]] will link to your userpage and [[User talk:TEHodson|TEHodson]] will link to your talkpage. Compare Richard Dawkins versus Richard Dawkins versus Richard Dawkins, and you will see that they have different Wikicode. :| TelCoNaSpVe :| 21:34, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

I think I followed what you wrote above, though it's giving me a headache. Let me try now.--TEHodson 07:53, 17 July 2010 (UTC) It still didn't link to my talk page. Trying again. --TEHodson 07:55, 17 July 2010 (UTC) Great balls of fire, it worked. But how was I supposed to know that all that stuff had to be typed into a line that merely says: Signature? Not exactly intuitive or obvious. But thank you, thank you, thank you.--TEHodson 07:57, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

This IP range 61.18.170.0 /24 keeps being blocked as a proxy farm for a sockpuppet. The sockmaster knows if he doesn't sign correctly, it makes it more difficult to revert him (digging around in history AFTER signbot, rather than just rollback on his edit). Can signbot ignore IP ranges? SchmuckyTheCat (talk) 19:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Question: is it possible that some talk pages are too full to type anything else in them? I was trying to ask a question on Mick Gold's talk page, and it did not show when I pressed save. Then your bot wrote on my talk page that I should remember to sign and date my posts. I don't know what happened to my edit; could you help me? The Gates of Eden (^{Talkin' Gates of Eden Blues}) 23:58, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Hi Steve,

I am Prabhu from India. I am working as a software developer in C#.net. Steve I checked your tool "Dependency walker" which works like a magic. Its really good and helpful tool to know about dll and exe files.

Steve, now I have a requirement to create a project in C#.net to load the selected dll at runtime and list all the functions in that dll (as "Dependency walker" do). I searched net, gooled and talked to my colease / friends etc., but didnt find any useful information. On net you hardly find the discussions on this topic. Even I written a piece of code using marshalling by googling for a weak. But that code is not working properly but not listing any methods in the dll. The count of methods will be zero and will not list any function names. Below is the code

Steve, can you please help me how achieve this / how to retrieve the function names and parameters in managed C# code from the unmanaged dll. I will be very glad if I get your help to solve this issue.

You can reach me through my Email id : [email protected] , [email protected]

public partial class frmLoadDLL : Form
{
       private void LoadUnManagedDll()
       {
           string DllName = txtDllPath.Text;

           //string DllName = "jscript.dll";
           unsafe
           {
               fixed (char* pszModule = DllName)
               {
                   System.IntPtr moduleHandle = InterOp.LoadLibraryEx(DllName, IntPtr.Zero, 0);
                   if (moduleHandle == IntPtr.Zero)
                       throw new ApplicationException("Failed to load library " + DllName);

                   //void* hMod = (void*)InterOp.GetProcAddress(InterOp.GetModuleHandle("kernel32.dll"), "LoadLibraryA");

                   void* hMod = (void*)InterOp.GetModuleHandle(DllName);
                   //void* hMod = InterOp.GetModuleHandleW(pszModule);
                   
                   //void* hMod = Marshal.GetHINSTANCE(DllName);
                    
                   //Module  mod = Assembly.GetExecutingAssembly(DllName);

                   //void* hMod = (void*)Marshal.GetHINSTANCE(mod);
                   

                   if (hMod != null)
                   {

                       MessageBox.Show("Got handle");
                       uint BaseAddress = (uint)hMod;
                       // Verify DOS header 
                       IMAGE_DOS_HEADER pDOSHeader = (IMAGE_DOS_HEADER)Marshal.PtrToStructure((IntPtr)hMod, typeof(IMAGE_DOS_HEADER));
                       if (pDOSHeader.e_magic != IMAGE_DOS_SIGNATURE) // "MZ" 
                       {
                           MessageBox.Show("Error in DOS signature");
                       }
                       // NT Header 
                       void* pNTHeader = InterOp.ImageNtHeader(hMod);
                       IMAGE_NT_HEADERS NTHeader = (IMAGE_NT_HEADERS)Marshal.PtrToStructure((IntPtr)pNTHeader, typeof(IMAGE_NT_HEADERS));
                       if (NTHeader.Signature != IMAGE_NT_SIGNATURE) // "PE" 
                       {
                           MessageBox.Show("Error in NT signature");
                       }
                       // RVA of export table 
                       uint lExportOffset = NTHeader.OptionalHeader.DataDirectory[IMAGE_DIRECTORY_ENTRY_EXPORT].VirtualAddress;
                       uint lExportSize = NTHeader.OptionalHeader.DataDirectory[IMAGE_DIRECTORY_ENTRY_EXPORT].Size;
                       // Export table 
                       IMAGE_EXPORT_DIRECTORY pExportDir = (IMAGE_EXPORT_DIRECTORY)Marshal.PtrToStructure((IntPtr)(BaseAddress + lExportOffset), typeof(IMAGE_EXPORT_DIRECTORY));
                       // Length of AddressOfNames array 
                       int lNumberOfNames = (int)pExportDir.NumberOfNames;
                       MessageBox.Show("Found " + lNumberOfNames + " names, size " + lExportSize + " at offset" + lExportOffset);
                       for (int i = 0; i < lNumberOfNames; i++)
                       {
                           char* szName = (char*)(BaseAddress + Marshal.ReadInt32((IntPtr)(BaseAddress + pExportDir.AddressOfNames + 4 * i)));
                           string name = Marshal.PtrToStringAnsi((IntPtr)szName);
                           MessageBox.Show(name);
                       }
                   }
                   else
                       throw new Win32Exception(Marshal.GetLastWin32Error());  
               }
           }

       }

      [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit)]
       public struct IMAGE_DOS_HEADER
       {
           [FieldOffset(60)]
           public int e_magic;    // byte offset to the NT header
       }

     [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit)]
       public struct IMAGE_NT_HEADERS32
       {
           [FieldOffset(0)]
           public uint Signature;
           [FieldOffset(4)]
           public IMAGE_FILE_HEADER FileHeader;
           [FieldOffset(24)]
           public IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER OptionalHeader;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4)]
       public struct IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER
       {

           public ushort Magic;

           public byte MajorLinkerVersion;

           public byte MinorLinkerVersion;

           public uint SizeOfCode;
           /// DWORD SizeOfInitializedData;              
           public uint SizeOfInitializedData;

           public uint SizeOfUninitializedData;

           public uint AddressOfEntryPoint;

           public uint BaseOfCode;

           public uint BaseOfData;

           public uint ImageBase;

           public uint SectionAlignment;

           public uint FileAlignment;

           public ushort MajorOperatingSystemVersion;

           public ushort MinorOperatingSystemVersion;

           public ushort MajorImageVersion;

           public ushort MinorImageVersion;

           public ushort MajorSubsystemVersion;

           public ushort MinorSubsystemVersion;

           public uint Win32VersionValue;

           public uint SizeOfImage;

           public uint SizeOfHeaders;

           public uint CheckSum;

           public ushort Subsystem;

           public ushort DllCharacteristics;
           /// DWORD SizeOfStackReserve;              
           public uint SizeOfStackReserve;

           public uint SizeOfStackCommit;

           public uint SizeOfHeapReserve;
           /// DWORD SizeOfHeapCommit;              
           public uint SizeOfHeapCommit;

           public uint LoaderFlags;

           public uint NumberOfRvaAndSizes;

           [MarshalAs(UnmanagedType.ByValArray, SizeConst = IMAGE_NUMBEROF_DIRECTORY_ENTRIES)]
           public IMAGE_DATA_DIRECTORY[] DataDirectory;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4)]
       public struct IMAGE_NT_HEADERS
       {
           /// DWORD Signature;    
           public int Signature;
           /// IMAGE_FILE_HEADER FileHeader;      
           public IMAGE_FILE_HEADER FileHeader;
           /// IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER OptionalHeader;  
           public IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER OptionalHeader;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit)]
       public struct IMAGE_NT_HEADERS64
       {
           [FieldOffset(0)]
           public uint Signature;
           [FieldOffset(4)]
           public IMAGE_FILE_HEADER FileHeader;
           [FieldOffset(24)]
           public IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER64 OptionalHeader;
       }

       public struct IMAGE_FILE_HEADER
       {
           public ushort Machine;
           public ushort NumberOfSections;
           public ulong TimeDateStamp;
           public ulong PointerToSymbolTable;
           public ulong NumberOfSymbols;
           public ushort SizeOfOptionalHeader;
           public ushort Characteristics;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit)]
       public struct IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER32
       {
           [FieldOffset(0)]
           public ushort Magic;
           [FieldOffset(208)]
           public IMAGE_DATA_DIRECTORY DataDirectory;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Explicit)]
       public struct IMAGE_OPTIONAL_HEADER64
       {
           [FieldOffset(0)]
           public ushort Magic;
           [FieldOffset(224)]
           public IMAGE_DATA_DIRECTORY DataDirectory;
       }

       public struct IMAGE_DATA_DIRECTORY
       {
           public uint VirtualAddress;
           public uint Size;
       }

       [StructLayout(LayoutKind.Sequential, Pack = 4)]
       public struct IMAGE_EXPORT_DIRECTORY
       {
           public int Characteristics;
           public int TimeDateStamp;
           public short MajorVersion;
           public short MinorVersion;
           public int Name;
           public int Base;
           public int NumberOfFunctions;
           public int NumberOfNames;
           public int AddressOfFunctions;
           public int AddressOfNames;
           public int AddressOfOrdinals;
       }

public unsafe class InterOp
   {
       private const string KERNEL_DLL = "kernel32.dll";
       private const string DBGHELP_DLL = "Dbghelp.dll";
       private const CallingConvention CALLING_CONVENTION = CallingConvention.Winapi;

       [DllImport("kernel32.dll", SetLastError = true)]
       public static extern IntPtr GetModuleHandle(string lpModuleName);

       [DllImport("kernel32.dll", SetLastError = true)]
       public static extern IntPtr LoadLibraryEx(string lpFileName, IntPtr hFile, uint dwFlags);

       [DllImport(DBGHELP_DLL, CallingConvention = CALLING_CONVENTION, EntryPoint = "ImageNtHeader"), SuppressUnmanagedCodeSecurity]
       public static extern void* ImageNtHeader(void* Base);

       [DllImport("kernel32.dll", SetLastError = true)]
       public static extern IntPtr GetProcAddress(IntPtr hModule,string lpProcName);

   }

—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.181.9.130 (talk) 13:59, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

Unfortunately, I've discontinued the on-demand, coder-for-free service that formerly ran on my talk page—it just became too popular. :P If you happen to have questions regarding the English Wikipedia, however, please feel free to post them. On a related note, I'm not "Steve." --slakr^\ talk / 19:40, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for signing for me. I was about to sign a talk page when your bot beat me.

--Thebirdlover (talk) 22:35, 24 July 2010 (UTC)

Deathsculler (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 06:30, 27 July 2010 (UTC).

Can u please explain me whats happening with that article. Thank u in advanced, because i cannot see what is the problem. --Palikalane (talk) 05:55, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Dear Slakr, could you put a slight time delay on SineBot? I have encountered several occasions when it apparently autosigns my posts between transmission of tildes or before signing can be recorded by Wikipedia. A delay of 3-5 seconds should be more than adequate. Thanks. Oldtaxguy (talk) 03:13, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Please look at the history of this page. An anonymous user removed someone else's comment on the Talk page (it's a comment from 2008). I reverted the change, putting the comment back. SineBot then did something to make it look like I had made a comment. I undid SineBot's change. I'm not sure if you would call this a malfunction, but I thought I'd bring it to your attention. I'm hoping SineBot won't do it again, but I'm not sure how often it runs or what triggers it to act.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:11, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

Please help me!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.100.147.71 (talk) 09:49, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

[12]: I don't want bots roaming my sandboxen. Thx Softarch Jon (talk) 04:08, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

Avoid sticking it in a *talk namespace. :P Most people put their sandboxen as a subpage of the User: namespace, which the bot doesn't patrol. Alternatively, simply stick a {{bots}} tag on the page and set it to deny SineBot and it will ignore it. --slakr^\ talk / 00:14, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Im not going to ever sign my posts k —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.222.227.22 (talk) 15:24, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Oh yeah... I hear ya. Damn the man! Screw conformity! Be a rebel! ...then again, nobody's gonna know who's rebelling if you don't sign....Well, ermm, I mean...I guess it's the thought that counts, right? *shrug* --slakr^\ talk / 20:17, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Since you feel that strongly, you might want to take a look at User:SineBot#Opting_out.   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:44, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

That when a bot or human archives a old page (When sinebot wasn't around) it signs the last comment. Can you stop it from doing it when a talk page gets archived? AboundingHinata (talk) 13:04, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi. Please consider expanding your (and your ProcseeBot's) blocks of the open proxies at 189.26.118.219, 189.26.118.75, 189.27.86.209, 189.26.180.165, 189.26.224.178, and 189.26.236.213 to 189.26.0.0/16 and 189.27.0.0/16 - see http://toolserver.org/~pathoschild/stalktoy/?target=189.26.0.0/15 for details. Thanks!   — Jeff G.  ツ 16:36, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

I want to deactivate my account, how can I do that? Capo (talk) 23:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Please see WP:RTV.   — Jeff G.  ツ 02:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Page is Talk:Apollo 11: (please have patience, I don't know how to reference diff numbers, so I'm copy-pasting from the history):

• 07:26, 12 August 2010 202.154.138.237 Anonymous user removed the comment "Alleged UFO Encounter"

(I, User:JustinTime55, did not make this comment.)

• 15:43, 12 August 2010 JustinTime55 (talk | contribs) (8,076 bytes) (Undid revision 378499447 by 202.154.138.237 (talk) NO FAIR -- can't just remove discussion you disagree with; instead rebut it)

(Trying to be a good Samaritan, I tried to enforce policy as I understand it.)

• 15:45, 12 August 2010 SineBot (talk | contribs) m (8,365 bytes) (Signing comment by JustinTime55 - "Undid revision 378499447 by 202.154.138.237 (talk) NO FAIR -- can't just remove discussion you disagree with; instead reb)

(Your bot, apparently thinking I made the original comment, adds my signature to it.)

• 19:28, 12 August 2010 JustinTime55 (talk | contribs) (8,076 bytes) (Undid revision 378553267 by SineBot (talk) Bot failure: I am not the one who made the comment)

(I manually undid what the robot did; hope this doesn't cause more problems.)

I think you need to add a heuristic to prevent this; all I did was undo something improper that someone else did; I don't happen to even agree with the comment and didn't get involved in the discussion, so I don't think my signature is appropriate on the page. JustinTime55 (talk) 19:47, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Strange. To link diffs, you can right click on the "prev" button in the history and "copy link location" (or similar). Here are the two most relevant diffs: your restoration, Sinebot's addition. Not sure why this happened - the comment was properly signed. Slakr will have to take a look. –xeno^talk 19:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

It looks like someone changed the default undo edit summary. The old one was this format, (it had a wikilink on the undo part). Now it's not linked. I'll make the change later today. --slakr^\ talk / 18:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)

A number of times, when responding to a newcomer, I get an edit conflict because SineBot has visited my talk page before I can reply. This is frustrating. Is there anyway to block SineBot from my talk page? Kingturtle (talk) 20:03, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

You must be a person who replies quickly to messages! Consider adding {{bots|deny=SineBot}} to your talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 20:31, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Ditto. :P --slakr^\ talk / 04:03, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

Hi, I don't mind sinebot signing my posts, but now it has written a note on my userpage saying I must sign my posts! Before sinebot said please sign your posts. cheers, Jamie

The following discussion may interest you: Execration_text_places --Sreifa (talk) 04:55, 22 August 2010 (UTC)