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Kanchipuram is missing from the list List of cities in India by population! --Crosstor (talk) 12:55, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/David Bennett Sr. § David Bennett Sr.. RFZYNSPY ^talk 18:32, 14 January 2022 (UTC)

"This group claims that Tell el-Hammam was destroyed cataclysmically by an air burst."

Hi. I am 100% sure Deg777 stands for [redacted]. This doesn't change anything objectively, but it did remind me of the fact that it's not just armchair "experts" like poor ole' me editing here, but also people who do a lot of actual exploration, be it for the better or the worse of our knowledge (archaeology is destruction, it's only positive if it leads to better knowledge and so forth, all the known fundamental maxims). He's pointing out the fact that it's not "this team", i.e. those excavating Tell el-Hammam on behalf of Trinity & Veritas, but a wide range of academics who've signed the "Tunguska" article. Out of the 21, there are 2 members of that bizarre "Comet Research Group", Timothy Witwer and Phillip J. Silvia, but the rest are a huge collection of specialists from Alaska Fairbanks U to UCLA Santa Barbara, East & West Coast, Midwest, and everywhere in between, including one from Los Alamos. Not a single Trinity or Veritas cadre. I can imagine that many have just done their part in studying & analysing in their university labs this or that category of material findings (ceramics, metal, glass, organic materials, etc.) and did little else, leaving it mainly to a coordinating author to draw the conclusions and come up with the airburst theory - although they did all sign on the final paper. I suggest that the wording should be modified to, say,

"A group of researchers published a paper claiming that Tell el-Hammam was destroyed cataclysmically by an air burst."

That would reflect the truth accurately and refrain from any POV.

Unless you do have the patience to read the whole paper and then go through the CVs of all the 19 non-CRG-affiliated contributors and find out

• a- what they wrote in the paper, and
• b- how they are connected to the "Trinity, Veritas & Co." project, or in wider terms, to the Creationist camp in general.

But I doubt you're ready to do all that. There's enough in this Wiki article to make any reader become weary of believing everything claimed by X or Y; making unsupported counter-claims is not permissible - and not needed either. Would you agree? Cheers, Arminden (talk) 23:12, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Yes. Agree with the change.

And I had also positively identified that person. Unfortunately, that still leaves us with the rest of the article being a mess, as that user and the others associated with the dig started their “science” with the fixed conclusion that what is found must agree with the Bible. I am not an archaeologist, but have a science background and experience looking at proper conduct of research. I felt comfortable writing about the debate regarding the air burst article, but can’t really fix the issue with dates and sifting through their assertions to find those that are objectively reasonable. rsjaffe 🗩 🖉 23:28, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

For example, is Tell el-Hammam Livias? They claim that here and in the Livias article. They are the only group making that claim but it dominates the Livias article. Perhaps they’re right. The article claiming the tell is Livias is reasonably persuasive to me, but no one else yet backs their claim. rsjaffe 🗩 🖉 23:32, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

What worries me is that the Jordanian Department of Antiquities is giving the license to dig to such institutions. They are marketing themselves as "The other Holy Land", but aren't getting enough religious tourists. Such a shame. Arminden (talk) 13:52, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rsjaffe.

I refer you to your recent PROD of Eric Lacy Vowles, which I assume you are aware I dePRODed.

If I may suggest, for future reference, TROVE is a good place to look BEFORE any PROD or AfD of any Australian related article which has some historical context.

Cheers. Aoziwe (talk) 13:14, 12 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank you so much for letting me know. I'm really new. I want more help on the topic Govardhan dravyam App. I don't know what to do next? mr cosmic king07:02, 16 February 2022 (UTC)talk

Contribute to other articles in Wikipedia; those in which you don't have a paid conflict of interest. Read up on how to contribute. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:04, 16 February 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Rsjaffe and thank you for cutting the cruft from Zabbix. I appreciate this step. Sadly you have been also deleting my edits even I have been very verbal about deleting it without notice nor further reason.

I talk about this edit of yours.

I said here and here with the mention "I created Zabbix#Security_vulnerabilities" that I prefer comments on my edit since I'm new instead of just deleting it. To go just over this by either not leaving a comment or not even reading it is not very motivating.

And this is not about the article itself. I was even in favor of deleting Zabbix before you cut it down, now we might be able to keep it. But this is simply about how you behaved against my request on 2 separate places. GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 05:43, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The standard way to watch for changes in a page you have edited is to have it on your watchlist. Expecting someone else to personally notify you is not how Wikipedia works. Help:Watchlist has further information on using a watchlist. See WP:OWN for more info on rights and responsibilities concerning content ownership. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 06:00, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The edit was to focus the article. That’s not a judgement on the inherent quality of the removed text, just its relevance to an encyclopedia article. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 06:02, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

It feels like you didn't received the point I was trying to make. I was not talking about my watchlist. As you see I'm aware of your edit. So your whole reply seemingly misses the point.

Just calling something cruft is not a reason for deletion of someone who added critical notes on an article which is considered WP:CRUFT

How was my edit about security vulnerabilities (to show that this software is comparatively unsafe to use) not relevant? You know probably the policies better than I am. I still would like to understand why you removed it and why you ignored both warnings without any comment. GavriilaDmitriev (talk) 06:13, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

The word "cruft" was a bit too general, and I apologize for that: I try to be brief when I comment, and sometimes nuance gets lost. What I was doing was blowing up the article to try to preserve it, so I removed most of the article to focus on the intro. There was lots of cruft there, and some innocent bystander text, like yours. WP:TNT is a blunt instrument, but probably the only hope. By doing that, the edit history is retained, and people can eventually retrieve portions of their contributions to add back if appropriate to the rejuvenated article. If, instead, the article gets deleted, those who try to write a new version cannot see the edit history and all the prior work is truly lost.

So

1 The removal of your text was not a judgment of its quality, rather it was part of an attempt to reduce the article to its bare bones so it could be regenerated.

2 I didn't read your warnings until you pointed them out to me. I'm commenting on your edit now. Editors do not routinely read article talk pages prior to doing edits, unless they have a question or want to discuss the article. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:35, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

Thank your for clarifying this issue. Apology accepted 👍 GavriilaDmitriev (talk • they/them) 17:06, 24 February 2022 (UTC)

A tag has been placed on Barstow Community Hospital requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a company, corporation or organization that does not credibly indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please read more about what is generally accepted as notable.

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Hello Rsjaffe. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Alexander van Akkooi, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Let's let Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Alexander van Akkooi run its course. O lente, lente currite noctis equi and so on. Thank you. Shirt58 (talk) 11:00, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

@Shirt58: OK, OK, I'll hold my horses. I just really dislike sock puppets and undisclosed paid editors. But I'll wait for this to end naturally. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 17:29, 4 April 2022 (UTC)

@Shirt58: Hey mister smarty-pants (ie: me), quoting Ovid and Marlowe is totally not helpful in the context of deletion discussions, especially when it concerns living people and assertions of WP:UPE. You should far know better than this. Pete AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 10:04, 5 April 2022 (UTC)

It was Russian Census 1926 when Mokshas number last time was calculated separately. I didn't write about Mordvans. You removed the first official mention of Mokshas given by Minorsky (1959) and replaced 21th c sources to 1960s. What is the problem with young girls in Moksha clothes 2021 photo replaced to archaic Russian colonial ethnography B/W one? It's a colonial time photo. Bad memories, you know? ----Numulunj pilgae (talk) 21:08, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

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I would like to thank you for nominating an article on an Olympic competitor for deletion. Wikipedia has way too many such articles and it is nice to see people starting the move to remove them. We have well over 100,000 stub articles on Olympains, the vast majority of which do not meet our current inclusion criteria. This is truly a daunting problem.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:36, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the thank you. This is daunting. I'm getting lots of dislike from users regarding nominating athletes for deletion. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 18:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

@Rsjaffe: Just to give you a taste of the amount of stuff going on here, there's nearly 2,000 Olympic athlete stubs from the Games between 1900 to 2000 involving athletes that didn't receive a medal that are less than 1kB. If you take that number up to 2kB, you start to get over 7,500. Most of the people who added these articles were probably itching to pad their article creation statistics. ~XyNq^t_c 21:49, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

Hi Rsjaffe. Hope you are doing well. Thanks for your time and effort in reviewing this article . However it is the only Organisation globally certifying members as therapists in Polarity and hence I feel the nomination for deletion for this article is not correct. I request this article could stay for public interest and making Wikipedia a good informational platform. Kindly suggest. Thanks. Gardenkur (talk) 02:24, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

I appreciate your concern. But Wikipedia has rules for what is appropriate for an article. Wikipedia is not intended to be a comprehensive listing, rather a collection of articles about things that meet the notability requirements. Read WP:GNG for more information. The nomination means that deletion will be discussed pro/con, then an uninvolved expert will determine the concensus and act accordingly. So the nomination is a request that others review the evidence and inform the final decision. Thank you. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:31, 27 May 2022 (UTC)

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Thank You, I wanted it as a draft, but could not figure out how to move it. 68.148.136.66 (talk) 01:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Thanks heaps for adding Derick Hall to the AFD log for May 24. Somehow doing so turned the entire page blue. Any ideas on how to remedy? Template use seems proper. Not sure why this happened, but if I deleted it from the log and preview changes, the error goes away. MaxnaCarter (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

All good, further closures saw the issue resolve. Thanks anyway! MaxnaCarter (talk) 03:31, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

No problem. Weird things happen some times. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:39, 31 May 2022 (UTC)

Thankyou for nominating for deletion the article on Roger Jacobs.John Pack Lambert (talk) 21:08, 2 June 2022 (UTC)

I didn't write the article, I just moved it from Cliff effect to a separate article. Algotr (talk) 21:25, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

What makes you think that the stub article of Kishore Mahato can't be on mainspace? He is ODI national cricket player of Nepal and has already played multiple games against test certified nation. If you can enlist some problem let me fix that? I also know the basic criteria which article can be or can't be on mainspace. DIVINE 📪 15:32, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

See WP:NCRIC. The article was moved to draft so that you would have an opportunity to insert sources showing notability. See WP:SPORTCRIT for information on notability sources and what can and cannot be used to prove notability. Without notability, the article could be deleted. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 15:48, 15 June 2022 (UTC)

I recently removed a speedy delete tag that you had placed on Leba Chand Tudu. I do not think that Leba Chand Tudu fits any of the speedy deletion criteria  because The created version by Sudip Karmakar23 (Jun 13, 2022) is different from the deleted version. The older deleted versions were showing up in the page history, but they have been redacted now.. If you wish, you may try using the simple proposed deletion (PROD) process, or the full articles for deletion (AfD) process, instead, if this was an article, or another process such as MfD or XfD as appropriate. Jay (talk) 02:43, 17 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi,

Thiqah Company is a Saudi government company, Thiqah Company is present in 20 countries, Thiqah Company is a member as an official observer in the Digital Cooperation Organization, "Why would you nominate it for quick deletion?". Note for you I am Administrator at Ar Wiki. --بندر (talk) 12:16, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

Rsjaffe, I've replied on my talk page Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:51, 23 June 2022 (UTC)

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(t · c) buidhe 20:26, 1 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for your comment on Draft:Chu Wanghua but I still wonder when I translate an article from other Wikipedia, do I have to move it to draft space before I translated the whole thing or can I just translate a part of it and continue to work on it later? Also, is scholar journals reliable? QiuLiming1 (talk) 18:38, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Pages are moved to draft for several different reasons. In this case, it was not about reliability, but about significance. In general, a subject needs to have at least two independent reliable secondary sources that have substantial coverage of the subject. Read WP:N to learn more. Reliability is needed to fill in facts; but significance is needed for the subject to be notable and eligible for inclusion in Wikipedia. By moving the article to draft, it allows you to have time to find significant coverage to establish notability without worrying that the article might be deleted before you finish your work.

In general, I suggest starting an article in draft if you think there is still a lot of work to be done to establish notability or a lot of work to be done to make it into a decent article. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:05, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Sorry, looks like we're bumping into each other at Davidalexamikal's talk page. I took the speedy off just because it's just easier to blank the spam on a talk page - you have to leave them a message there to tell them what they're doing wrong, anyway. --Drm310 🍁 (talk) 15:35, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

No worries. I don’t have the rights conferred to edit others’ talk pages, so I just drop a warning, but your edits were appreciated. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 15:37, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, thank you for your reviews, and suggestions. I have included in the article, all the sources I could find on each of the parts from the article, including printed sources (like Billboard and Indie Rocks Magazine), as well as online interviews with Sean Wheeler himself, and a lot of the other artists named in the article. I would really appreciate guidance as to how to get the article approved for mainspace soon. Sean Wheeler is clearly a relevant American music artist and has been so for 40+ years. The articles I added as references are all legitimate media, both printed and online. Thank you. Cachizalo (talk) 19:40, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Great. Look at the criteria in WP:SINGER to ensure you’ve documented at least one of them. #1 is the most common and all reviewers will know that one, but you may have to refer then to WP:SINGER if notability relies on one of the other criteria. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:49, 13 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello, Rsjaffe,

You tagged this article with a BLPPROD 6 minutes after it was created! You are a very experienced editor and you know that we recommend not tagging articles for deletion so soon after they have been created. Ideally, editors work on an article draft in User or Draft space and move it over to main space when it meets Wikipedia standards but there are some editors, especially new editors like this page creator, who start working on articles right in main space and 6 minutes isn't long enough for them to track down references. There really shouldn't be any lag between appearing in main space and satisfying Wikipedia's criteria for verifiability and notability but not every editor works the same or is even familiar with all of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines.

I appreciate you patrolling, checking out new articles and being so vigilant but unless the articles are copyright violations, violate BLP guidelines or are advertising, I think you need to give article creators a little more time to improve them before bringing down the deletion hammer. I don't believe there is a recommended time to wait, but I usually suggest at least an hour after the article has been started. Your mileage may vary! Thanks for all of your contributions to the project! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:01, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I went back into the page history to see what you saw when you tagged this article for deletion and I see why you thought it was due for deletion. My point about allowing more time still stands but it was a dreadful mess before Storchy came by and fixed it into a decent stub. 21:08, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I normally wait, but it was a mess, and I've been tresting BLPPROD different from other deletion tags, as it only requires the editor to add a ref before deleting the deletion tag. i had seen other similar articles that are spit out like thar then abandoned. I do agree I was too hasty and will give editors more time. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:14, 16 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey! Since you just reviewed the article I wrote (Arnidovirineae), would you mind reviewing a few others that I have been waiting for? (Nanidovirineae and Microbacterium virus MuffinTheCat) Yirch (talk) 07:03, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Hi, I'm DoubleGrazing. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Kabiri Fubara, and have marked it as unreviewed. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

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DoubleGrazing (talk) 19:07, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

Hello @Rsjaffe,

I noticed you deleted the article on Paul Enenche citing a previous deletion as reason.

I did not see the previous version, i would love to if you have a link.

Also, I am wondering if it is standard practice that an article previously judged not-notable remains permanently so and hence deleted in seconds without a contest? OtuNwachinemere (talk) 19:06, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

OtuNwachinemere By now, the reviewing administrator agreed and deleted the page.

Here is a brief outline of what I saw that caused me to add the tag: the page had been deleted three times before ([1]). Most importantly, two of the three times were after an article for deletion discussion, which includes reviewing the evidence for notability. The last AfD discussion was about 4 months ago. Regrettably, I cannot review the deleted article: it is hidden from most non-administrators. I did look at DeletionPedia, but it only had the first and oldest of the three deleted articles. I then looked to see if anything notable about the subject occurred after the last deletion and could not find anything. In that case, the notability determination still stands. Therefore I nominated it for deletion.

Note that the main determinant in this type of analysis is whether things have changed for notability of the subject. And the more often the article is re-created and deleted, the more concerned we get that submitters are ignoring the notability requirements for that particular subject.

My advice: review WP:GNG. Note that establishing notability requires more than just reliable sources. Wait a while before writing this article again (e.g. 6 months at least). Don’t submit it for approval until notability is proven. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:34, 27 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you @Rsjaffe for the response.

I did not know about all the previous creation attempts on the subject. However, i suspect that there will be more attempts given that many folks, including me, strongly believe that the subject is actually deserving of a BLP on Wikipedia although there may be insufficient sources to prove notability. Hence why i created a stub.

I won't attempt re-creating the article but i suggest a good move will be to re-open the discussion on the first deleted article and attempt to get a better consensus as the first only had two participants. I also believe the initial delete may have hurt the subject's chances at getting on mainspace.

Thanks for the link you provided.

Best! OtuNwachinemere (talk) 13:19, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

OtoNwachinemere. One thing about notability: it isn’t about how deserving a person is. There are many wonderful people who don’t qualify for an article. Notability means that some reliable impartial sources have noticed and reported on the person. So Wikipedia lags the rest of the world in noticing a person. That’s by design.

From WP:NTEMP: Wikipedia is a lagging indicator of notability. Just as a lagging economic indicator indicates what the economy was doing in the past, a topic is "notable" in Wikipedia terms only if the outside world has already "taken notice of it". — rsjaffe 🗣️ 16:14, 28 July 2022 (UTC)

Good afternoon, Rsjaffe. My name is Kirilinm. I have made adjustments to the articles you curated and made all the necessary changes. I have added CoI to all the talk pages and edited the articles:

Draft:MQL5 Community — did proofreading in a neutral style, and edited the sources. Draft:MetaTrader 5 — did proofreading in a neutral style, edited the sources, did proofreading in a neutral style, and edited the sources. Added content and sources for MQL5 language after deleting the main article.

I hope you can be able to review your articles in your comfort time. Ready to make any necessary edits. Regards, Kirilinm (talk) 11:52, 02 August 2022 (UTC+03:00)

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Hello Rsjaffe/Archives,

Backlog status

After the last newsletter (No.28, June 2022), the backlog declined another 1,000 to 13,000 in the last week of June. Then the July backlog drive began, during which 9,900 articles were reviewed and the backlog fell by 4,500 to just under 8,500 (these numbers illustrate how many new articles regularly flow into the queue). Thanks go to the coordinators Buidhe and Zippybonzo, as well as all the nearly 100 participants. Congratulations to Dr vulpes who led with 880 points. See this page for further details.

Unfortunately, most of the decline happened in the first half of the month, and the backlog has already risen to 9,600. Understandably, it seems many backlog drive participants are taking a break from reviewing and unfortunately, we are not even keeping up with the inflow let alone driving it lower. We need the other 600 reviewers to do more! Please try to do at least one a day.

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Hello Rsjaffe. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Protenodontosaurus, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Not an unambiguous copyright infringement, or there is other content to save. Thank you. DatGuy^Talk_Contribs 16:47, 19 August 2022 (UTC)

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Thank you for reviewing my page! BloxyColaSweet (talk) 05:33, 27 August 2022 (UTC)

What do I need to do to keep my page here? I am a retired broadcaster who once was on over 200 stations on a news network and also with art bell in 2015. He is on here as well as many other American talk radio broadcasters. Leoashcraft2 (talk) 03:17, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

I suggest you read WP:AB. It’ll explain the issue with autobiographies and provide some alternatives. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 04:24, 29 August 2022 (UTC)

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You deleted my page about Simon Fraser. Can you please tell me why? And if you're not able to, can you please give me my page back, I really need it. It has some important information. Thanks lad! — Preceding unsigned comment added by CalvinEDU (talk • contribs) 03:06, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

Responded at WP:Requests for undeletion#user:CalvinEDU. Jay 💬 08:58, 4 September 2022 (UTC)

I would like to contest a article which has been tagged speedy deletion. This article is not a advertisement or marketing as Dr. Goldfarb is retired. He has made unique contributions to his field both a inventor and innovator Dgentman (talk) 01:53, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Both I and the deleting administrator felt that it was unsuitable for Wikipedia. It is hard to draft an appropriate article when you are closely linked to the subject, as I believe you are in this case. See WP:AUTO for more. If you do want it to be undeleted, please follow the instructions at the bottom of the deletion notice on your talk page, and contact the deleting administrator. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 01:59, 6 September 2022 (UTC)

Hello. In many cases, French proper nouns only have the first letter of the first word capitalized. I believe this is such a case. That's how it is written on the French Wikipedia, although plenty of people, even among French speakers, don't follow the rule. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/France-_and_French-related_articles#Capitalization Thank you.

Redacwiki Yeah, but I looked at the club's web site before making the move, and they consistently capitalize Nantais. See https://www.stadenantais.fr/articles/D7A88F62-2297-4E35-9507-A9AEA9326296 and https://www.stadenantais.fr/articles/F07D9630-D3FF-414B-921E-A343DA70DB71 for example. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 02:49, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

rsjaffe Yes, that's probably done to highlight their brand within the text, to make it more important, or because it's done in English. It's a common practice but it's incorrect and not done in the context of an encyclopedia. It's a bit like some companies who capitalize their entire name. It's tolerated in certain contexts, but not considered the actual spelling. You can see it here with https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alliance_fran%C3%A7aise. And yes, that means that thousands of Wiki articles have had it wrong for years.

But WP:MOSFR says to use the capitalization used in the organization’s official publications. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 13:23, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

The "Capitalization" section of the MoS mentions about works of art that: "For consistency of French titles on the English Wikipedia, the consensus has been to follow the first method [which is the] Imprimerie nationale / Académie française method [It adds that] Titles which adhere to these rules may, however, differ from the form of capitalization originally adopted by the author, the cover's graphic artist, or the publishing house [...] The MoS does say to use "the punctuation, spelling, ect. used by the organisation's own publications" at one point, but there is no direct mention of capitalization. Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization) also says: "Capitalization of expressions borrowed from other languages [...] For French, see for instance WP:Manual of Style/France and French-related § Works of art. In French, the capitalization rules (for books, works of art, and many other topics) are different from those in English." That doesn't seem to imply differences in treatment between works of arts and other topics. So if I understand correctly, for works of arts, Académie française and fr.wiki spelling rules take precedence over "vanity" capitalizations made by the publisher, but for institutions, it's the opposite?

I'm looking at the section on Names of organizations and institutions (Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/France-_and_French-related_articles#Names_of_organisations_and_institutions) and it states Subject to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Trademarks and Wikipedia:Naming conventions (companies), names of organisations and institutions (e.g. orchestras, musical ensembles and groups, concert halls, festivals, schools, etc.) should follow official usage (i.e. the spelling, punctuation, etc. used by the organisation's own publications.... To me, this makes sense, as works of art don't have someone to insist on a particular capitalization, so you follow the general rules, while corporate names do have someone insisting on capitalization (the organization itself) so that should carry the day.— rsjaffe 🗣️ 19:01, 8 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hello! You edited my new article Udy (village) but seem to have caused an error. You added the article to the category "Articles with unsourced statements from September 2,022" which is not a legitimate category. I assume you meant to put it into the category "Articles with unsourced statements from September 2022 "but I can't figure out how to fix it. Could you please correct this? Many thanks, Physeters^✉ 20:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

I checked, and it is in the correct category here. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:53, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

At the bottom of the article it is listed as "2,022". Will this just correct itself? Physeters^✉ 21:02, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

The Population Estimate field in the infobox re-formats numbers with commas, which added a comma to the CN date — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 21:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Ah, I see. Thanks for fixing it! Physeters^✉ 22:03, 15 September 2022 (UTC)

Isn't it a better idea to wait the standard 10 minutes before tagging the article? --Ferien (talk) 21:27, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Ferien. The author wanted it deleted. It ended uo as G7 — rsjaffe 🗣️ 05:37, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

What does UTC actually mean? Hope8384 (talk) 05:16, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

Coordinated Universal Time — GhostInTheMachine ^{talk to me} 06:57, 16 September 2022 (UTC)

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I’m not sure that what was the copyright problem ? Xxmadamex (talk) 20:44, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

Look at this report: [2]. There is copy/paste from at least two sites. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 20:51, 29 September 2022 (UTC)

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Hello Rsjaffe. I would Know why you don´t accepted my change on history on this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schiller_International_University I have explained with references my changes. Thank you very much for your attention. Best Regards. YarisGat (talk) 08:21, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

1. References are needed in the article.

2. It was a copyright violation. See WP:CV. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 08:38, 14 October 2022 (UTC)

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I declined the G12 because site given as the source is very likely a web scraper. Just looking at the "article", it's a jumble of sentences that have been glued together from a various other sites with no human oversight; very likely pages in the Battle for Dream Island fandom site. If you look at the other pages from the site, you come across literary gems such as this. That site scraped it from fandom which is under a free license and it just needs attribution which I've done. -- Whpq (talk) 02:58, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Thank you for the information. — rsjaffe 🗣️ 03:08, 29 October 2022 (UTC)

Hi rasjaffe,

I got a notification from you that my page nominated for speedy deletion.

on my own i have created a wiki page and making changes and i am the owner of the organisation.

my company name is 5 dice studios and created a wiki page for that below my wiki page that i have created

User:5 Dice Studios 5 Dice Studios (talk) 06:13, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

hi, per WP:SIGIMAGE, your signature must not contain the twitter checkmark. could you amend it? lettherebedarklight〔晚安 おやすみ〕ping me when replying 07:27, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

@Lettherebedarklight done — rsjaffe 🗣️ 11:56, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

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