User talk:Phantomsteve/Archives/2020/March

Hi, an article I translated, Lamp (band), got speedy deleted recently. I wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement. Thanks -- Firezzasd (talk) 03:02, 2 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hello - you deleted a bio page I created for Jerome Sala, a poet. The stated reason is a lack of evidence for notability. Sala has published several public books and has direct connections to other poets who are in Wikipedia, and presumably someone will be looking for information on him. My intention was to make an easily-accessible, official public record of his existence and work, which has been missing. The links that I found were the only relevant ones that exist, and I've seen far scrawnier biographical Wikipedia entries hang around for a long time. Poetry is a field where interesting and notable people elude the eye of the general public all the time, so Sala lacking a Wikipedia page is far from unusual. For future reference, what is the exact line where not-notable becomes notable in Wikipedia's eyes? I've made bio articles before for equally obscure writers that passed the test. Thanks, Mi-parti — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mi-parti (talk • contribs) 19:35, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Mi-parti, thanks for contacting me! Having several books published does not make someone automatically notable as Wikipedia understands it. Having direct connections to other poets does not make someone notable. In order to be notable, a poet would generally need to meet the following criteria:

1. The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
2. The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.
3. The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
4. The person's work (or works) has: (a) become a significant monument, (b) been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) won significant critical attention, or (d) been represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.

As it stood, the article did not provide evidence that Jerome meets this criteria. If you can provide some reliable, independent sources to demonstrate that he meets the criteria above, we can discuss restoring and improving the article.

Incidentally, if the links that you found were the only relevant ones that exist, this would indicate that he does not currently meet Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion.

I look forward to you providing some evidence that Jerome meets the criteria for inclusion! PhantomSteve/talk¦contribs\ 20:40, 3 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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