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Apparently, we watch some of the same articles. So I went to your editing history and immediately struck with your incredible sense of humour. I never realized that creating Redirects could be so fun OR give hints on new vocabulary trends! Now when ever someone asks me, rhetorically, "Who thinks up this stuff?" I know the answer. I like your style. Best Regards,
I'm sorry not to have been able to get over to this in time, David, but happily it has got through anyway. Well done sir! A great way to start the week. Have a good one—hope you're well. Cheers —Cliftonian(talk)06:16, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Kids Can Say No! you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Johanna -- Johanna (talk) 03:01, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Lucky and Squash you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Cirt -- Cirt (talk) 21:01, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
Hi Neelix, its fantastic that lucky and squash is now a good article. hope you don't mind that I originally rated it as a c class for child lit project, I am conservative in my ratings, being inexperienced with articles beyond a start. I will be including it in my list of GA examples for future reference. :) Coolabahapple (talk) 04:01, 23 October 2015 (UTC)
Explanation please
What were you thinking when you sat down and created these 398 Redirects to Insulated glazing all in a row? How could these possibly be useful. The vast majority of them are not even real words. Legacypac (talk) 08:59, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
...would probably suffice. I've asked another editor to have a look. Generally speaking we include those terms that seem most likely to merit a redirect, as opposed to every conceivable slang offering. Thank you, 2601:188:0:ABE6:FC48:1604:D3F5:EB14 (talk) 20:02, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I very much agree, why in the world would you create all of those redirects? Most of which aren't even a possibility of someone typing in search. Dave Dial (talk) 21:38, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
I have mass-deleted dozens of your uneccessary redirects. If you continue to create them, especially so rapidly (are you using automated tools?) then your account will be blocked. GiantSnowman21:57, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
For once, I agree with NE Ent. You're extremely unlikely to come out of this situation with the bit intact. You can at least preserve a small amount of your dignity by giving up the bit voluntarily, albeit under a cloud. BMK (talk) 07:21, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
I notice that you are editing again on Wikimedia Commons. Would you mind helping tidy up the redirect farm you created here first, please? -- The Anome (talk) 17:27, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to hope that some minor progress may have been made by Neelix vis a vis their editing on Commons; please see the discussion and my comments there. I hope that Neelix may make further progress there. But yes, there's potential for cleanup on Commons, too. With any luck, I hope Neelix might help with that. -- The Anome (talk) 19:03, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
I'm both embarrassed and sorry about the way you've been treated. en-Wikipedia concurrently represents both the best and worst of humankind. The best, of course, because of the five million freely licensed articles written due to some combination of altruism and egoism. The worst because once an editor has been cast into the role of "villian" civility and WP:AGF go out the window -- usually with invocations of "suicide pact" as if that justifies acting like assholes. I don't know, nor do I particularly care, what you were thinking when you created the redirects; both my personal inclination and the supposed AGF policy is to believe they were done with good intentions. I believe a lot of the vehemence is because many of the redirects have gender connotations in a year when Wikipedia is struggling with gender related issues.
I can't stop the mob and, although I've reminded arbcom of its prior practice I don't have a good enough read on arbcom 2015 to predict what they're going to do. What I do know is you can end all or a lot of the drama by simply resigning sysop at WP:BN. You don't have to apologize, beg, grovel or anything, simply say "please remove my sysop bit." CSD U1 your user page and walk away -- Wikipedia is just a website and real life is the best antidote. NE Ent14:01, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
User:NE Ent - I think you misunderstand WP:AGF. We assume good faith until it is abundantly clear that an editor is not acting in good faith. Neelix was warned about this and continued to create tens of thousands of such redirects. He has had such good-faith and civility shown to him he is still not blocked and an admin. I am absolutely 100% confident any other editor would be indef blocked by now. Wikipedia should not be a place women feel uncomfortable and harassed. I am not even a woman and I feel deeply uncomfortable about many of those redirects, some of which were vile and abhorrent such as "Tuberous boobies" or "Tiny titties" or " Hypoplastic boobies" or "Booby cancer" or "Booby milk" or "Booby cyst" or "Titty cancer" or "Minuscule titties" or "Titty milk". Not to mention the hundreds if not thousands more about women's "shapes" and "tits". For you to defend such indefensible actions is worrying. Many of the redirects were deeply misogynistic. The shrine for Tara Teng was incredibly disturbing, indeed stomach-churning. If you don't feel Heelix should apologise for his actions at all if you (instead you apologise to him for crying out loud) and if you "don't care" that he did this you are part of the problem. AusLondonder (talk) 21:43, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
Disagreement is reasonable, but your last sentence (i.e. "If you don't feel Heelix should apologise for his actions at all if you (instead you apologise to him for crying out loud) and if you "don't care" that he did this you are part of the problem."), borders on going a bit too far.—Godsy(TALKCONT)23:01, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
AusLondonder, I do see how. Please refrain: Ent is doing what Ent thinks is right, Ent is doing it in fairly measured terms and is editing and acting perfectly within policy, and AGF most certainly applies to Ents. Drmies (talk) 00:26, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
I disagree with what he has written, as do a good many others. I feel I am entitled to express that view. I personally did not accuse NE Ent of acting in bad faith AusLondonder (talk) 00:31, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
"You are part of the problem". The hypothetical in front of it is just like "I'm sorry if you feel offended". Your feelings, like Neelix's elsewhere, are irrelevant: you can express your views in certain places, though not necessarily here as a tag-along to Ent's words, but you may not make personal attacks. That is all. Drmies (talk) 01:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
This is to inform you that the discussion at ANI is closed, with the results listed there. Please read it all carefully, but note particularly "...largely inline with the majority view, a one-year topic ban is imposed preventing the creation of any redirects (excluding incidental ones as a result of reasonable page moves). However, suggestions can be made at Wikipedia:Articles for creation/Redirects." Harriastalk01:11, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
Update - One click archiver now sends deletion templates from this page to the archives, so we can skip the deletion holding page if we like. Legacypac (talk) 22:12, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
Thank you
Neelix, with all that's going on, I don't want to say anything else besides thank you for resigning your adminship. It was the right decision. There's much more that could be said, and it's not all over, but for now, just thank you. --BDD (talk) 22:23, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Thank you...
...for voluntarily turning in the bit. I do wish you had decided to do so sooner, but it was the right decision no matter when you made it. When you return from your Wikibreak, I hope that you will join in the effort to mitigate some of the problems caused by your past editing, and that your future editing will be informed by the lessons to be drawn from the current incident. You clearly have much to offer Wikipedia, as long as you keep those other impulses under control. Best, BMK (talk) 22:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
This arbitration case has been closed and the final decision is available at the link above
This case was opened to address the behavior of Neelix (talk·contribs), a long-time editor and administrator. Neelix has subsequently resigned as an administrator and acknowledged that he may not regain administrator status without a new, successful request for adminship.[2]. In addition, an extensive community discussion on the incidents noticeboard has resulted in a one-year topic ban from Neelix's creating redirects.
Under these circumstances, this case is closed without further action. The restriction already imposed at ANI remains in force. Neelix is strongly counseled to take the concerns expressed by the community into account in his future editing, and cautioned that he may be subject to additional sanctions if problems recur.
I hope you appreciate, and regret, the vast amount of work which you have created for admins in your obsession with making up nonsense redirects, all of which have to be painstakingly deleted?--Anthony Bradbury"talk"11:29, 24 January 2016 (UTC)
Redirection, #REDIRECT, #REDIRECT
Hello. I can tell you're not a new user by any means, but I've noticed that you're redirects are being nominated for WP:SPEEDY because of people mistaking your redirects for text. Granted, this user isn't on often. I just wanted to remind you that redirects are "#REDIRECT article link" Thanks - Jjjjjjdddddd (talk) 23:59, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article What's So Amazing About Grace? you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Sainsf -- Sainsf (talk) 15:01, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
