User talk:Miniapolis/Archives/2013/October

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User:Angela SiP

Hi Miniapolis, here's an alert to a secret revert of one of your edits. I noticed that you recently blanked User:Angela SiP per WP:UP#PROMO. However, an IP (50.12.239.149) put back all the content. (I know about this because I came across this page in Recent Changes and watchlisted it.) George8211 ^{conversations} 19:27, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads-up; I'm watching the page also, and blocked the IP (which I have a feeling is User:Angela SiP) for 24 hours as well. Think we're looking at a spam-only account that's WP:NOTHERE; funny how WP's position in the Google algorithm brings out the would-be advertisers :-). All the best, Miniapolis 19:47, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

WP:GOCE September backlog elimination drive barnstars

		The Most Excellent Order of the Caretaker's Star
		This barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for copy edits totaling over 100,000 words as part of the GOCE September 2013 copy edit drive. Thanks for participating! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:57, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Articles, 4th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for copyediting 35 articles during the GOCE September Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Total Words, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for copyediting 68,436 words during the GOCE September Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: 5K Articles, 3rd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for copyediting 2 long articles during the GOCE September Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Oldest Articles, 2nd Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for copyediting 32 old articles during the GOCE September Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for your contributions! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

		Guild of Copy Editors Leaderboard Award: Longest Article, 5th Place
		This Leaderboard Barnstar is awarded to Miniapolis for your copy edit of the 6,742-word article Birla Institute of Technology and Science during the GOCE September Backlog Elimination Drive. Congratulations, and thank you for taking on this long article! – Jonesey95 (talk) 03:19, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

A cookie for you!

Thank u for copy-editing Chandralekha (1948 film). BTW, I hope u edited all the statements according to these supporting sources: [1], [2], and [3] ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 09:36, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

You're welcome (and thanks for the cookie :-)). I'm only about halfway done, and haven't done anything with the sources. I'm polishing the prose, and fixing obvious errors as I see them; that's time-consuming enough. All the best, Miniapolis 19:55, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for completing the copy edit :-) ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 02:16, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help. Good luck with GA and all the best, Miniapolis 13:38, 4 October 2013 (UTC)

Wikiproject Food and Drink Newsletter - October 2013

	The WikiProject Food and Drink Newsletter Volume III, no. 2, October 2013
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An updated front page, A new sister project and updates to our DYK page

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Normanhurst, New South Wales

You have undone my reversion of User:Fatmansam123's vandalism. Not sure why. ```Buster Seven Talk 13:43, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry; we were trying to do the same thing at the same time. Feel free to continue (they've been blocked for 24 hours). All the best, Miniapolis 13:47, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

No Prob. Just starting to get involved with Vandalism patrolling. ```Buster Seven Talk 13:51, 5 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 02 October 2013

Op-ed: Commons medical diagnostic images under threat from unresolved ownership

Medical images have transformed many aspects of modern medicine. Over the past two decades the increasing sophistication of MRI, CT-scanning, and X-ray techniques has made these technologies the cornerstone of diagnosing a range of conditions, replacing what used to be largely guesswork by doctors. They can be the difference between life and death for a patient, and their importance is underlined by the tens of billions of dollars spent on them annually just in North America. For Wikimedia Foundation projects, advanced images are now a powerful tool for describing and explaining, and educating our worldwide readership of medical articles.

Discussion report: References to individuals and groups, merging wikiprojects, portals on the Main page, and more

Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...

News and notes: WMF signals new grantmaking priorities

In what will be remembered as a game-changing week for Wikimedia grantmaking, the Foundation's executive director, Sue Gardner, published a forthright and in places highly critical statement, Reflections on the FDC process, and grantmaking staff revealed that the WMF will significantly strengthen its targeting of optimal impact in funding.

Featured content: Bobby, Ben, Roger and a fantasia

Six articles and two pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.

Arbitration report: Infoboxes: After the war

Editor's note: To go beyond the mere facts of cases, the "Arbitration report" invited several editors who participated in the recent Infoboxes case to comment on infoboxes: what they are, where new users can go to find out about them, specifications and protocols, best practices, and how the upcoming community discussion recommended by the Committee in the case decision should be framed.

WikiProject report: U2 Too

This week, we revisited the enthusiastic editors at WikiProject U2. Started in June 2007, the project has grown in spurts, resulting in a collection of 8 Featured Articles and 24 Good Articles. The project maintains a to do list, portal, and a list of references.

A cup of coffee for you!

For copy editing Kamal Haasan. Keep up the good work. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 01:35, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Sorry for being a bit snippy on the Requests page; as I plowed through the article, I saw what you were talking about :-). All the best, Miniapolis 02:38, 7 October 2013 (UTC)

October 2013

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who works primarily in the [[Tamil film industry]]. Haasan has won several Indian film awards (including three [[National Film Awards]] and a number of [[Filmfare Awards|Southern Filmfare Awards]

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rating from 0–100 reviews by film critics, the film has a rating score of 58 based on 23 reviews {a mixed, or average, film).<ref name="metacritic">{{cite news |title=Fuck Reviews - Metacritic |work=[[Metacritic]]|url=http:/

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Fuck thanks

Thanks ever so much for your help with copyediting Fuck (film), much appreciated, — Cirt (talk) 03:17, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Glad to help, but I'm only about halfway done; I can comfortably copyedit about 2,000 words a day :-), and do it section by section to avoid edit conflicts. If you check the history you'll see where I left off last night, and it should be done today. All the best, Miniapolis 13:26, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks again, looks great, — Cirt (talk) 18:12, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

A quick note about Mai Shiranui

Hi Miniapolis, thanks for taking the above request. Having just done Kasumi (Dead or Alive), I thought I'd let you know that Niemti—who has been editing the above article—was editing "Kasumi" at the same time as me. Niemti objected to my removal of some questionable, crufty material and sources (see our conversation on the talk page) and defended it by wikilawyering. S/he seems quite combative and defensive of certain material as you can see on Mai Shiranui's GA review. I'm not saying his/her edits are generally problematic and I'm not bringing this to you as an admin, just giving a friendly heads-up about the problems I had with him/her. In "Kasumi" I found misused and inaccurately used quotations, cruft and original research that did not exist in the stated sources—'Reception' sections seem prone to this kind of thing. The chances are you'll have no problems at all; I hope this is the case for you. Cheers, 21:48, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Oh joy. Thanks for the heads-up; I checked the GAN (because I always take "I failed solely because of the prose" with a grain of salt) and their talk page. You're right; they don't seem to play too well with others, but I trust they've learned that you can't bully your way to a GA. Don't worry—I can take whatever comes (I hate that animation, but can't find a policy-based reason to remove it :-)). Thanks again and all the best, Miniapolis 22:01, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

No worries; I see you've had the pleasure already. I've read your post on my talk page and will reply there. The animation is...erm...pure class... :-D Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 03:13, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Mai

It should be always "Mai", not "Shiranui". (Unless in cases it's full name "Mai Shiranui".) --Niemti (talk) 00:08, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Per WP:SURNAME, "After the initial mention of any name, the person should be referred to by surname only". Um, do you want this copyedit or not? I'm not as patient as Baffle is :-). Miniapolis 00:50, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

In video games, we use the way they're adressed to in the games (for example: always "Kyo", never "Kusanagi"). Unless the character is adressed by its surname (for example: always "Wesker", never "Albert"), but it's very rare. Characters are not persons, but fictional content. --Niemti (talk) 01:53, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

A copyedit is a copyedit (requested by Gabriel Yuji on WP:GOCE/REQ), and I copyedit in accordance with the Manual of Style. Please see your talk page. Miniapolis 02:01, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

A person (WP:SURNAME is about persons) is a real human being. In Wikipedia, fictional characters are as the way they're known as. Go figure. Btw, many characters have no surnames, or abstract names. In the same series (KOF), there's for example K', aka "K Dash" - no, he's not "Dash", while Blue Mary is neither "Blue" nor "Mary" but "Blue Mary". You've got even game characters like Sentient Hyper-Optimized Data Access Network or Genetic Lifeform and Disk Operating System - what do you think would be "surnames" of those "persons"? --Niemti (talk) 02:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

True, fictional characters (think of TV shows) are generally referred to by their first name unless they are in a work environment (office, hospital, police station, church, etc.) and have a title (Mr. X, Dr. X, Officer X, Rev. X, etc.). Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 13:00, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

Again, I copyedit according to the Manual of Style (which makes no exception to WP:SURNAME for fictional characters). I've copyedited a number of articles about fictional characters, and this is the first time it's ever been an issue. Since Niemti has a track record of article ownership, tendentious editing and disruption, in the absence of a (proposed) topic/site ban I'm dealing with them appropriately. Miniapolis 20:25, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

I can't really copyedit grammer well because English is my foreign language. --Niemti (talk) 02:10, 9 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 09 October 2013

Traffic report: Shutdown shenanigans

If you're living in the United States, what did you do during the government shutdown? Well, it seems most people watched the final episode of Breaking Bad.

WikiProject report: Australian Roads

This week, we moved to the esoteric world of Australian roads.

Featured content: Under the sea

Seven articles, six lists, and twelve pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia last week.

News and notes: Extensive network of clandestine paid advocacy exposed

An investigation by the English Wikipedia community into suspicious edits and sockpuppet activity has led to astonishing revelations that Wiki-PR, a multi-million-dollar US-based company, has created, edited, or maintained several thousand Wikipedia articles for paying clients using a sophisticated array of concealed user accounts.

In the media: College credit for editing Wikipedia

The University of California, San Francisco attracted substantial media attention over its new course offering that will give credit to fourth year medical students for editing Wikipedia articles about medicine.

Arbitration report: Manning naming dispute and Ebionites 3 cases continue; third arbitrator resigns

A proposed decision has been posted in the Manning naming dispute. The workshop phase of the Ebionites 3 case closes 13 October. Arbitrator NuclearWarfare has resigned.

I added 2 books with references and when I did you deleted the listing why please explain why you delete after the books were added.

Do you work for a competitor and why would anyone delete the article when adding books to it.

Did we add the wrong book

Perpetual Income: How-to Generate Cash Flow from Low-End House Investments by Bryan Wittenmyer (Jul 1, 1999)Page 32

Rent Reviews and Variable Rents Hardcover – December 1, 1984 by D.N. Clarke(Author) J.E. Adams (Author) PAGE 38

The next article I write will be to the company rent my vacation home and let them handle this.

What reason do you have to delete when we are working on references. At this point please terminate me form my membership if this is not put back on the site. I will also never forget what was done here for the rest of my life and I worked for free. Just delete me as I suspect this is corruption on a good day.

I will also recommended everyone in our class cancel the membership and never help again. goodbye forever

I added 2 books with references and when I did you deleted the listing why please explain why you delete after the books were added.

Do you work for a competitor and why would anyone delete the article when adding books to it.

Did we add the wrong book

Perpetual Income: How-to Generate Cash Flow from Low-End House Investments by Bryan Wittenmyer (Jul 1, 1999)Page 32

Rent Reviews and Variable Rents Hardcover – December 1, 1984 by D.N. Clarke(Author) J.E. Adams (Author) PAGE 38

The next article I write will be to the company rent my vacation home and let them handle this.

What reason do you have to delete when we are working on references. At this point please terminate me form my membership if this is not put back on the site. I will also never forget what was done here for the rest of my life and I worked for free. Just delete me as I suspect this is corruption on a good day.

I will also recommended everyone in our class cancel the membership and never help again. goodbye forever — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.122.39.11 (talk) 02:29, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Um...I didn't delete the article (but I would have, based on the discussion—which you didn't seem to read). Wikipedia is not advertising. Miniapolis 02:39, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Copyeditor's Barnstar
	For your copyediting help with Fuck (film). Thank you for providing such helpful copyediting services to the Wikipedia community. — Cirt (talk) 18:33, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much! Good luck (I presume FAC is the next stop) and all the best, Miniapolis 19:42, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

You're most welcome, and perhaps... — Cirt (talk) 19:53, 8 October 2013 (UTC)

Hafez al-Assad

Thanks for copyediting the article.. A question for you, if you look past the bad grammar and English writing, were there any other big or minor problems with the article? --TIAYN (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

The article is very good; the only issues I could see were the relatively few sources cited (I kept seeing the same refs, sometimes the same page cited several times in a sentence) and the large number of red links. The first may not cause you any trouble at GAN and FAC (I think it's a GA now—too bad I can't review it :-)), but I've seen reviewers fuss about a lot of red links. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 15:42, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Trouted

Whack!

You've been whacked with a wet trout.

Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

You have been trouted for: Your undo of the CSD:G7 on Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/San Jose Watch Company. I observe that the editor has not done anything with Wikipedia since the point that they blanked the submission. The page was cought in an AfC maintenance process (Category:AfC submissions with missing AfC template) and I evaluated the page to determine what the user's intention was. Typically when a user blanks a page like that they are indicating that they're giving up on the submission or are going to do something else. Admins have significantly endorsed this viewpoint as evidenced by the derth of redlinks in User:Hasteur/CSD log. Because you undid my CSD:G7 on what I consider to be shoddy grounds, I have reverted the page to the last non-blank version (which includes a AfC template) so that when the 6 months from last edit (which is now today) comes around we can speedy the deletion under CSD:G13. Hasteur (talk) 13:33, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Trout accepted, as a learning experience (and they're always fun :-)). I undid your G7 because it looked like the article's creator intended to resubmit and not blank it (so we were both trying to figure out what they intended; in retrospect, I should've left it alone and asked them). I ended up deleting it as G12 (although not an unambiguous copyvio), but it was also a G11 candidate. We'll see if they try to re-create it. Miniapolis 13:54, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Animal welfare

Can you have a look at this ANI? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#CI.2C_OWN_etc._of_user_DrChrissy_on_animal_welfare CI, OWN etc. of user DrChrissy on animal welfare. She removed the leading academic sources without explain, again. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.16.57 (talk) 23:41, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

That thread was closed as inappropriate for ANI as a content dispute; the dispute-resolution noticeboard is thataway, but I'd watch out for WP:BOOMERANG if I were you. Please sign your posts with four tildes. Miniapolis 13:27, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

GOCE September 2013 drive wrap-up

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The Signpost: 16 October 2013

News and notes: Vice on Wiki-PR's paid advocacy; Featured list elections begin

Media coverage on Wiki-PR, the multi-million-dollar US-based company that has broken several policies and guidelines on the English Wikipedia in its quest to create and maintain thousands of articles for paying clients, continued this week with a feature story by Martin Robbins in the British edition of Vice magazine.

Traffic report: Peaceful potpourri

A slow week, with low overall views and the Top 10 dominated by longstanding pages. Gravity, Alfonso Cuaron's outer space-set action art film, not only held its position at the top of the US box office but climbed to the top of the Wikipedia chart as well, showing that it has become a major talking point.

WikiProject report: Heraldry and Vexillology

This week, we studied coats of arms and flags with the folks at WikiProject Heraldry and Vexillology. Started in September 2006, the project has grown to include 20 Featured Articles and nearly 50 Good Articles. The project maintains a portal, a list of resources, and a variety of images and templates.

Featured content: That's a lot of pictures

Six articles, two lists, and thirty-three pictures were promoted to 'featured' status on the English Wikipedia last week.

Arbitration report: Manning naming dispute case closes

The Manning naming dispute case has closed, with a strong and unanimous statement by the Committee against disparaging references to transgendered persons. Sanctions were enacted against six editors.

Discussion report: Ada Lovelace Day, paid advocacy on Wikipedia, sidebar update, and more

Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...

Hi there.

Thanks for reviewing my Instant Company page. This is my first time creating a page for Wiki and have been working on this page for some time. Can you provide me with some guidance as to where I can improve. I read your notes, but I'm still unsure - can you give me some examples? I have been referring to the Regus site for help also. Thanks

Wednesday2013 (talk) 06:37, 24 October 2013 (UTC)Wednesday2013

Hi. I don't know what the Regus site you refer to is, but because Wikipedia ranks high in search-engine algorithms many companies (and people) try to submit articles as free advertising (click on any blue words for links to relevant policy and guidelines). WP:CORP is the notability guideline for companies; WP:CORPDEPTH is especially useful for the extent of coverage required in reliable sources. WP:VRS explains the general notability guidelines. Startups are generally not sufficiently notable for an encyclopedia article. All the best, Miniapolis 13:19, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

I've broken template:google books

Hi Miniapolis, I'm sorry if I'm in the wrong place but I don't really know anyone else to ask.

A few days ago, I made an edit to the above template intending to add a feature allowing it to return a plain url instead of the normal formatted link. Now there are several editors on the talk pqge complaining about the change breaking citation templates--but the template never worked with citation templates in the first place as it returns a formatted url not the plain one those templates require. Going batty has been going round fixing the templates which can't have worked in the first place, so i can't just undo it. Also, its transcluded on over 1000 pages so I'll be wasting server resources. I feel like an idiot--maybe i am. (See my diff on the template and the discussion on the talk) I'm sorry if I'm being annoying. RainCity471 (whack!) 21:33, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Don't beat yourself up; that's why they put erasers on pencils :-). Template editing is far from my forte, but Jonesey95 (who's a cinch to know more than I do) doesn't seem to think there's much—if any—problem. Keep me posted, and I'll help any way I can. Good luck and all the best, Miniapolis 02:14, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

And I guess why MediaWiki has an undo button, otherwise this would be Vandalpedia because we'd have to start from scratch every time someone blanked a page... Anyway I think I'll keep clear of templates... I like to think I'm fairly technically literate but I obviously don't seem to be: I've got the Blue screen of death twice and crashed Sibelius (software) so it got stuck on a really loud chord. Thanks for all your help and best wishes, RainCity471 (whack!) 22:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

These things happen. The preview button saves me untold embarrassment, but sometimes (especially with templates) you can't tell how something will work until you (gulp) save it. Never forget that there's nothing you can do on WP that can't be undone :-). All the best, Miniapolis 23:43, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

RainCity471: Really, it's not a problem. What you saw as complaining, I saw as "making a note of an unintended consequence of the wonderful, bold work you did to improve our glorious encyclopedia of all world knowledge." Additions of features, even fixing(s?) of bugs, always have unintended consequences that will ruffle someone's feathers (yes, I have feathers). That's life. You did a good thing, and it made a little work for someone else, but if the world (or at least WP) is a better place when you're done, you can sleep well at night. Keep it up! (And M is right: there's always "undo" if everything goes pear-shaped.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:38, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

You're right, Jonesey (and I can't speak for RainCity but I think they'd agree now that the omigodwhathaveidone shock has worn off); we all make mistakes, and the important thing is to learn from them. All the best, Miniapolis 14:49, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, both of you are right. At the risk of being a bit WP:BEANSey, even this could be undone... Thanks for all of your help and best wishes, RainCity471 (whack!) 15:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

And Jonesey: sorry I misunderstood you on the template talk page. RainCity471 (whack!) 20:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Good news

Chandralekha (1948 film) has passed its GA review. I also owe you for that. If ever I was awarded for that on wiki, I would prefer being praised for having brought the article from slumps to GA status in less than a year. ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 04:10, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

The Signpost: 23 October 2013

News and notes: Grantmaking season—rumblings in the German-language community

The next twice-yearly round of Funds Dissemination Committee (FDC) grantmaking is soon to close for community questioning and commentary. Ten nation-based Wikimedia chapters and one thematic organisation are asking for a total of more than US$5M of donors’ money from the Foundation’s renamed annual plan grant process. Aside from Wikimedia UK ($708k), the three biggest asks are from the German-speaking chapters: Wikimedia Germany is asking for $2.4M and Wikimedia Austria $311k; and the German-language-related Swiss chapter is applying for $500k.

Traffic report: Your average week ... and a fish

Media, sports and Google Doodles dominate, though a very odd fish decided to crash the party.

Featured content: Your worst nightmare as a child is now featured on Wikipedia

Twelve articles, four lists, and four pictures were promoted to "featured" status on the English Wikipedia this week, including the article on cabbage.

Discussion report: More discussion of paid advocacy, upcoming arbitrator elections, research hackathon, and more

Current discussions on the English Wikipedia include...

In the media: The decline of Wikipedia; Sue Gardner releases statement on Wiki-PR; Australian minister relies on Wikipedia

MIT Technology Review published a long article on what it called "The decline of Wikipedia". Editor involvement has decreased since 2007; according to the article, this has had an adverse qualitative effect on content, particularly on issues pertinent to non-British and American male geeks.

WikiProject report: Elements of the world

This week, we headed to an elementary subject with WikiProject Elements. Founded by Mav in 2002, this project has grown to have 19 featured articles, 2 featured topics, and 68 good articles. The project also has a list of templates, and a periodic table of elements filled with pictures.

WP: GOCE October blitz barnstar

		The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
		Thanks for your hard work during the October 2013 blitz! For tirelessly copy editing more than 10,000 words in just a week, please accept this award along with our appreciation. Nice work! —Torchiest ^talk_edits 15:22, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Reward board

You might want to add a better rationale for deletion rather than simply referring to the MFD for the bounty board. It's likely to be a more contentious discussion since it still in use and doesn't only offer monetary rewards. Cheers SmartSE (talk) 15:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

Your point is well-taken, but Suburban Express is already there pleading ignorance of how WP works :-). If the consensus is to keep, that's okay by me. All the best, Miniapolis 15:31, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

GOCE Blitz wrap-up; join us for the November drive

Guild of Copy Editors October Blitz wrap-up

Participation: Out of eleven people who signed up for this blitz, eight copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we copy edited 42 articles from WikiProject Film's backlog, reducing it by a net of 34 articles. Hope to see you at the November drive in a few days! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Torchiest, Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95 and The Utahraptor.

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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter

Books and Bytes

Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013

by The Interior (talk · contribs), Ocaasi (talk · contribs)

Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved...

New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian

Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted.

New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis??

New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges

News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY

Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions

New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration

Read the full newsletter

Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 20:09, 27 October 2013 (UTC)