User talk:Mindmatrix/2023

Happy New Year!

Mindmatrix,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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On 15 January 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Translation Bureau, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that in 2019, the Canadian government's Translation Bureau began providing translation services in Dene, East Cree, Plains Cree, and Mohawk? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Translation Bureau. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Translation Bureau), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 12:03, 15 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]

What's it got to do with whether you DOUBT it?

This is the exact reason, as per the list of divisors just before, and is an explanation of why.

Very strange revert. Mrrash (talk) 10:01, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Mrrash:The source states that it is likely the sexagesimal system was chosen because 60 can be evenly divided by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30, but says nothing about it being chosen because it is "the smallest number to have twelve divisors".

Fact: 60 can be evenly divided by 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 10, 12, 15, 20 and 30

Fact: 60 has 12 divisors (as you state)

Fact: the sexagesimal system was likely chosen because 60 has many divisors

Unproven: the sexagesimal system was chosen because 60 has 12 divisors

The last point is why I reverted your addition. Mindmatrix 13:49, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there! I used the "thanks" button a few times, but I wanted to thank you personally for the impressive work you did on Lexicon (card game). I have been going through magazines like Games and Puzzles in archive.org this year to find games reviews, and I have used it to restore deleted articles, rebuild redirected articles, and build new articles, which is how I came across Lexicon. I have used these sources to restore or create Quantum (board game), Image (board game), Oh-Wah-Ree, Isolation (board game), London Cabbie, Sleuth (game), Stocks & Bonds, L'Attaque, The Stock Market Game, Dark December (game), and The Godfather Game so far, and I'm not done yet! BOZ (talk) 21:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I did notice some of those, and also the reviews/resource archive (and noticeboards) you've been building. I've been meaning to search for sources for Stocks & Bonds for a potential expansion, as well as other 3M bookshelf game series entries and a few other card games from the 1920s to 1940s, but my access to resources is limited. (I do not use the resources available to WP editors for free if they require personal details to access.) Sometimes results from a ProQuest search may lead me to find archived articles on other sites, but that's hit or miss. I have also perused the Internet Archive's various magazine collections as well. Thanks for all your diligent work in finding these sources! Mindmatrix 21:59, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Anything you can do anywhere would be appreciated! :) And thank you for noticing, it's a big project putting together those noticeboards, which I will eventually attach to WikiProjects for public perusal, but I'm a long way away from being ready for that. Stocks & Bonds has personal meaning to me, as I had fun playing it with my dad when I was younger. Speaking of the 3M games, Contigo and Point of Law were also redirected but I have not seen any reviews for them just yet so I've left them that way. BOZ (talk) 22:47, 1 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You mentioned games from the 1940s, do you see anything for either of these?

• Conflict (board game) (PROD) - game by Parker Brothers published in 1940 [1]
• Supremacy (1940 board game) AFD - World War II board wargame published in 1940 [2]

They can always be restored when sources are found! :) BOZ (talk) 14:55, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: A ProQuest search for Conflict restricted to the years 1940-1975 yielded 24 hits, but most seem unrelated to the game. (Aside: I did find The Game Room: Play for the big bucks with Petropolis on page B3 of the Chicago Tribune from December 1975 about Petropolis (board game); BGG link, though I can't see the content.) I've also searched Google News Archive and Google Books, with little success.

Regarding Supremacy, search results are dominated by sports pages (or the more modern version by Noble Knight Games for no date restrictions). Without knowing the publisher, a narrower and more fruitful search can't be executed. I tried inspecting the pics at BGG, but I could glean no publisher info from them. Mindmatrix 15:38, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

OK gotcha, maybe @Timur9008 might see some older newspaper articles for these games? The only other game I have on my deletion list from that era is this redirected article:

• Nok Hockey (redirected) - 1942 two player action board game [3]

Although this one came out just before the 1920s and was deleted for copyvio but could be rewritten:

• Uncle Wiggily (board game) (CSD, copyvio) - 1916 board game by Milton Bradley [4]

Other than that a handful of games well over 100 years old:

• Flinch (card game) AFD - card game that was first published in 1903 [5]
• Game of the Telegraph Boy (CSD, copyvio) - 1888 board game [6]
• Messenger Boy (redirected) - 1886 board game [7]

And several from the 1950s and 1960s:

• Cheyenne (board game) (CSD, copyvio) - 1957 board game by Milton Bradley [8]
• Crazy Clock Game (redirected) - 1964 board game published by Ideal Toy Company [9]
• Password (game) (redirected) - 1962 board game based on the TV game show [10]
• Sergeant Preston (CSD, copyvio) - 1956 board game by Milton Bradley [11]
• Trimino (CSD) - 1969 game similar to dominoes but played with tiles [12]
• Walt Disney's Peter Pan (board game) (redirected) - 1953 game based on the film [13]
• Walt Disney's Sleeping Beauty (board game) (redirected) - 1959 game based on the film [14]

And many, many, many from 1970 onward. :) BOZ (talk) 16:13, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: Password is another article I've had on my to-do pile for a long time. There are surprisingly few references for it though, given how incredibly popular it was. Mindmatrix 19:09, 3 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for the late reply(I've been busy) For Uncle Wiggily board game [15] Timur9008 (talk) 14:25, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That brings up an interesting situation that I have wondered about. When we have an article that was deleted due to copyvio, especially in a case of a 100+ year old game, if there is anything from the old article - anything at all - that was not copyvio, can it just be partially restored without the violating parts? BOZ (talk) 14:53, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Letting you know that the edit notice is now live - if you edit any article with refideas listed on the talk page, you will get the notification. :) You can click "edit" on Call of Cthulhu (role-playing game) to see it in action, if you have not already seen it. BOZ (talk) 17:49, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Yup, I've already come across it on a few articles, both gaming and non-gaming related. I'm currently (slowly) working on a few MTG articles... Mindmatrix 01:42, 25 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Bold 2001:D08:2281:D46B:4792:7B78:E41B:769F (talk) 05:26, 27 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]

That user on CyanogenMod has been blocked for 3RR. I think technically you were edit warring with them but you are not a new editor so I won't lecture you. —DIYeditor (talk) 16:14, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@DIYeditor: Possibly, but the articles all had {{Use dmy dates}} and I was simply restoring them to use those formats per WP:DATEVAR, and I did explain to the user (on their talk page and in some edit summaries) why I was reverting those changes. I suppose I could have waited for someone else to do it that last time, though, and perhaps also started a discussion on the relevant talk pages. (And yes, I did see the block discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring.) Mindmatrix 17:54, 5 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Since you are working on them... my games deletion list has quite a few, if you come across sources for any of them:

BOZ (talk) 16:03, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: Right now I'm going through some issues of InQuest and The Duelist magazines page by page, adding relevant tidbits that I find to the respective articles on WP. I've already seen some of the articles mentioned in your list; for the four MTG books, I don't think any of them merit their own article, but List of books about Magic: The Gathering or some such may be plausible (I'd be wary of a title such as List of Magic: The Gathering books, as that could be ambiguous). Mindmatrix 16:57, 11 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: For posterity, and because I had forgotten that this even existed, there's also Magic: The Gathering The Official Deckbuilder's Guide. I found a mention of it in Inquest 34 (February 1998) on page 93. Mindmatrix 15:07, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Oh nice. :) Maybe there really should be an article about books about M:TG. When TSR was publishing Dragon there was an article or two talking about all the different books as well. Did you find enough sources to bring back any of the deleted articles? BOZ (talk) 15:20, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: Not yet, and these magazines don't seem to cover books all that much, so I don't think I'll see many mentions during my current game-related editing. Perhaps when I move on to other sources... Mindmatrix 15:36, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Gotcha. I'm less concerned about the books than I am about the games. If you've seen a little coverage (enough worth noting, let's say) for any of them, if it helps I could get them into draft space so you (and others) could work on them until they are ready? If sufficient sources don't come up, they can always just be moved back into being redirects. User:BOZ/Pyramid may potentially be helpful, although I think I already restored anything they reviewed. For other language sources, I'm not sure how much CCG material is on User:BOZ/Magia i Miecz, but I have fully indexed the available issues at User:BOZ/Backstab so that may be useful. Other hobby games still around during the CCG era and may or may not have coverage include User:BOZ/Challenge where I have linked to the available issued but not indexed them, User:BOZ/Polyhedron where I have merely linked to the collections, and same for User:BOZ/Shadis. I have a printed out copy of an index to Dragon magazine reviews, but have not yet replicated this on my user pages. BOZ (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ Let's face it, my Sword Girls probably should be deleted too :(

Btw, if you need something checked in Magia i Miecz, remember I read Polish :) _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 14:13, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I do know. :) I didn't see lots of CCG reviews in that magazine, but then again I don't always recognize what I'm seeing. It seems that they trended primarily towards other RPGs, with some focus on other tabletop games. At least that was my impression, and what I pieced together for User:BOZ/Magia i Miecz. BOZ (talk) 15:57, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Could be they have reviews for some Polish CCGs, although I don't think we even have articles about them. pl:Veto (gra karciana). Crystalicum: Kryształowa Gra Karciana doesn't even have a pl wiki article. I guess at some point I should look for sources on those. Veto had a short running section dedicated to it in Rebel Times ([35] from issues 89-94), together with Doomtown Reloaded for some reason. _{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 02:54, 15 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I started little stubs for the XXXenophile (collectible card game) and Star of the Guardians (collectible card game) in case you found additional sources for those. BOZ (talk) 19:02, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: Yeah, I noticed them, and thanks for moving the text I inadvertently placed at XXXenophile. I've already passed a number of articles for Star of the Guardians without adding content to any article, so I may now have to backtrack to find out which issue had these articles. Doh! Mindmatrix 19:07, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

No worries. :) I also found one more piece for Super Nova; it is not independent because it looks like it was written by one of the designers, but if there is at least one more actual review somewhere then this can be useful as a source all the same:[36] BOZ (talk) 19:09, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: I downloaded that issue (and quite a few others) from IA last night, but I don't know when I'll get to them. I'll keep an eye out for other Super Nova references. Mindmatrix 19:10, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds good; I nearly asked for Super Nova Card Game back at WP:REFUND, but then I realized it was not likely an independent piece. BOZ (talk) 19:15, 18 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Some things I saw while looking through Scrye, no idea if they are ultimately useful, but maybe?

• First of all, a preview for a game called Moons of Khadar: [37] I did not see that one on BoardGameGeek at all, and virtually nothing exists about it on Google. I am wondering, was it ever published? Probably a game that was ready to go but did not get released?
• I found a substantial article for a game called Chrysalis: Borne of the Supernature: [38] and this one must have been published as it does have a BGG page [39] but we have no article and I don't see it mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia.
• There was apparently an online CCG called "Battle Trolls" (not to be confused with the Battle Trolls action figures), see review: [40] There is nothing on this game at MobyGames or BGG (it's a cross-section of both), and Google searches were not particularly fruitful, but I did find an old version of the website on IA: [41]

BOZ (talk) 19:38, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: I recently came across Moons of Khadar in an issue of Inquest or The Duelist, but I don't recall which issue as I've gone through quite a few of them recently. I couldn't find a WP article to which to add info, so I just skipped it. I don't think I've come across the others though. Mindmatrix 22:47, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Keep on chugging along. I'll be looking through Inquest and Duelist again myself in the next few months, after I've gone through some other tabletop game magazines. BOZ (talk) 22:54, 21 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I had gone through all the issues of Scrye available on the Internet Archive to find reviews last month, and likely next month I will do the 20-something available issues of Inquest and then all 41 issues of Duelist on IA. I believe you already went through all of those to find whatever reviews and articles existed to add to articles we already have, but I'll be continuing to look for reviews for articles that haven't been started yet, so I can add the games to User:BOZ/BTG reviews noticeboard. Just a heads up! :) Inquest will probably start sometime next week. BOZ (talk) 22:10, 29 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ:There will likely be a few entries in those magazines I skipped over, most likely reviews about video games or board games for which there were no articles. I'll occasionally keep an eye on your lists and perhaps create an article or two when the fancy strikes me (and I have the time for it). Mindmatrix 23:41, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I was able to find another review for the Super Nova game so I was able to get it moved to Draft:Super Nova (card game) - hopefully there is at least one more! BOZ (talk) 14:23, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@BOZ: I filled in the refs for you and made a few other tweaks. Mindmatrix 17:25, 4 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I also restored The Crow (card game) today as well - I found a review in Duelist yesterday, and then I checked the talk page and realized I had found another review for it a few years ago. :) With the preview from Scrye for further reading, I think we have enough coverage for a restore. BOZ (talk) 14:22, 5 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I've been working on the KotE article a lot and would love to implement the InQuest article/review, but don't have a copy of that issue. Would you mind emailing me a scan/photo of the relevant page(s)? You can reach me through Special:EmailUser/Alexandra_IDV. Thanks! Alexandra^IDV 15:05, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Alexandra IDV: Hi there. A number of InQuest issues are available for download from Internet Archive, including issue 34 and 19 others. See page 26 of 136 at that link. Enjoy! Mindmatrix 15:17, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you!! I do use Archive.org a lot for finding print sources, but had missed this upload entirely - looking forward to looking through it tonight.--Alexandra^IDV 15:25, 12 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

On 13 March 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Lexicon (card game), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that for the 50th anniversary of the word game Lexicon, the publisher organised a Golden Jubilee weekend that included an alphabet soup dinner? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Lexicon (card game). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Lexicon (card game)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

BorgQueen (talk) 00:02, 13 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

A lovely kitten for your contributions

Midtsveen (talk) 13:41, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Here kitty, kitty, kitty... Mindmatrix 13:48, 14 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, in the Dune (card game), I saw you moved the further reading back to how it was per MOS:ORDER. Do you know how to avoid the now orphaned reference sitting under the bottom nav boxes? I can't see how to do it without having Further reading before the references. Thanks. Sciencefish (talk) 13:55, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Sciencefish: I've converted it to a further reading entry for now, as it's not actually used as a reference. Mindmatrix 14:02, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

As simple as that, thanks. Sciencefish (talk) 14:04, 23 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

You undo my small correction in Specular_highlight. Please read original paper from: Wolfgang Heidrich and Hans-Peter Seidel, "Efficient Rendering of Anisotropic Surfaces Using Computer Graphics Hardware", Computer Graphics Group, University of Erlangen.

It is clearly stated that N' is projection of vector L into plane T but not N. See Figure 2 in original paper.

If you are unable to find this paper I will be happy to supply with link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.46.191.102 (talk) 08:57, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

My apologies; I thought you made an inconsistent formatting change instead of fixing mathematical notation. I've restored it, and also added an archive URL to the cited paper. Mindmatrix 12:45, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. Feel free to remove this paragraph. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.46.191.102 (talk) 15:08, 29 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Recently, I've noticed your edits for Oscar Peterson and your interest in him. I thought it would be nice to start upgrading his biography to peer review level and possible GAN. Would you have any interest in considering doing improvements to the article for a possible eventual co-nomination at GAN? ErnestKrause (talk) 15:31, 18 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@ErnestKrause: I appreciate the invitation, but I can't help you with this. Mindmatrix 01:06, 19 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Ten years ago, you were found precious. That's what you are, always. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:37, 8 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@Gerda Arendt: Thanks! "We wants it. We needs it. Must have the precious...." Mindmatrix 13:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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If I had an "oppressive grip on the internet" there would be far less bullshit on it. Mindmatrix 13:08, 10 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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I don't think the previous image in the LED article is significantly clearer than the new one I added in this edit. The previous one is too dark and you can't actually see the structure of the LEDs clearly enough, as it only shows the cases glowing.

I'm thinking about an image that:

• Shows LEDs in a few different colors or variants
• Shows the structure of LEDs somewhat visibly
• Without being too dark like in the previous image and without too much distracting light in the background

Thanks. 2601:703:280:9C80:191A:39C3:8BA:1636 (talk) 19:51, 3 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

@2601:703:280:9C80:191A:39C3:8BA:1636: I've browsed the Commons category, and though it has many images, none are particularly fitting. The one you've chosen (File:3 color LEDs.jpg) is decent but lacks sharpness; I'll leave it as is for now. There are other photos that show diode structure, but not lit diodes. Perhaps there's a CC-licenced image to be found on Flickr or some other photo sharing website. Mindmatrix 00:11, 4 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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