User talk:MatthewHoobin/Archive 3

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Hey -- I have a copy of The Lady from the Black Lagoon, the new biography on Milicent Patrick. What do you think you'll need to cite from it in order to fix the article? Let me know, and I'll see how I can help. :-) Stolengood (talk) 05:43, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@Stolengood: I appreciate your willingness to help! It's kind of hard to tell what I'd specifically like to cite since I don't actually have the book, but I'm sure that there must be information in the book that can be used to expand the content of the article. I assume that the book includes extensive information on her experiences with Creature from the Black Lagoon and on how she was denied credit for her design work, so that could be added, and if the book includes information about her early life and childhood, personal and romantic relationships, and post-Creature career, that would be worth adding too. –Matthew - (talk) 16:55, 28 March 2019 (UTC)

@MatthewHoobin: -- I'll have to dive deep to be sure of page numbers for cites, but Milicent Patrick grew up in, of all places, Hearst Castle. Her father, Camille Rossi, was the structural engineer in building large parts of the estate, so his whole family lived on the property for as long as he was employed. After he was fired, they moved to Glendale, and from there Milicent Patrick started her professional career. :-) Stolengood (talk) 00:26, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

In June 2016 you added a "Cleanup-reorganise" tag to the article Sapeh. Looking at the article, I don't know what to do differently. It resembles a million other musical instrument article stubs. I am removing the tag and alerting you. If you can give me some idea of a different organization, I will do it for the article. Cheers, Jacqke (talk) 11:14, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Jacqke: Ah, do forgive me; I'm more knowledgeable with Wikipedia now compared to three years ago. I think it must've been the placement of the images that bothered me. I've placed them into their own Image gallery section. Thank you for reaching out! –Matthew - (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Thank you. I ·appreciate your taking a look. I'm working through some the old instrument articles. Jacqke (talk) 14:39, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Please keep in mind that when you move pages like King of the Monsters, it leaves behind a whole load of incoming links to be dealt with. Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 13:17, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

@Leschnei: Thank you for reminding me! I've fixed several links which are now no longer listed on the page for what links to "King of the Monsters". It looks like everything else that links to King of the Monsters (the disambiguation page) is either supposed to link there, or is linked from old bot reports or user talk page discussions from years ago. Since the latter categories were active before the page move, do you know if those should be updated to reflect the change? –Matthew - (talk) 13:38, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

I don't think that we have to worry about bot reports or talk pages. There were 15-20 items in the 'what links to King of the Monsters' list a while ago. I changed them all to King of the Monsters (video game) or King of the Monsters 2; hopefully I got it right. Leschnei (talk) 13:44, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Fresno nightcrawler is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Fresno nightcrawler until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

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The article XavlegbmaofffassssitimiwoamndutroabcwapwaeiippohfffX has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Fails WP:NBAND and WP:TOOSOON. Absolutely nothing on this page is a reliable source except for some minor coverage by MetalSucks, and even then the coverage isn't even for the band's music. Just a stupid band that got some minor Internet attention for having a stupid name

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An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect He Never Dies. Since you had some involvement with the He Never Dies redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 17:30, 9 August 2019 (UTC)

Category:Killer shark films, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. DonIago (talk) 03:33, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

Hi, I noticed your past participation in a 2017 Rfc regarding adding an infobox to Stanley Kubrick's article. I just wanted to notify you that there is an Rfc currently underway there. I thought you may be interested. There is likely to be the multi-year moratorium on the topic once this survey ends. Thanks!HAL333 01:57, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Hinotama. Since you had some involvement with the Hinotama redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so. _signed, Rosguill ^talk 08:10, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Hi. Are you sure B-sides should be included in the infoboxes? I think we only normally include the A-side in the chronology (unless the article is about the song that was the B-side, of course) – at least that's the impression I've long had. Can you provide a link to a guideline that supports your additions? Thanks, JG66 (talk) 13:47, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

@JG66: According to Template:Infobox song, B-sides can be added in instances of double-A-side singles, although it's unclear to me if such things are allowed for non-double-A-side singles. My edits may well have been against guidelines, but I'm not sure. If they are indeed against guidelines, then I may start a wider discussion about whether or not this should be changed. A B-side of a single is still a single, isn't it? I will refrain from further edits until we figure this out. What do you think? –Matthew - (talk) 13:58, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

I'd say that first example at Infobox song says it all: "Other Side" doesn't appear in the chronology, and nor is there a B-side (or other side) given for the other entries in the chronology. Feel free to start a discussion on this, of course. My feeling is it's wrong, from experience; also, it leads to no end of potential problems with the chronologies if B-side's different in various markets. JG66 (talk) 14:09, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Fair point; thank you for putting it that way. I've reverted my edits to the Beatles articles. What about something like "Bullet" by the Misfits? That single features two songs on the A-side ("Bullet" and "We Are 138") and two songs on the B-side ("Attitude" and "Hollywood Babylon"). Should "Bullet" be listed in the chronology in its infobox as "Bullet", or as "'Bullet' / 'We Are 138'"? Similarly, should "Attitude" be listed in its infobox chronology as "'Attitude' / 'Hollywood Babylon'"? –Matthew - (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Wow, that Misfits example is a weird one. To my way of thinking, it's an EP not a single, and the opening sentences at "Bullet" seem to be confused over that issue anyway. Definitely something to raise at WP Songs or Music, I'd say – I wouldn't have a clue how to deal with those examples (but then I should add that I'm really anti including singles chronologies anyway, eg this discussion). Hey, thanks for undoing those changes at the Beatles song articles. JG66 (talk) 14:46, 5 September 2019 (UTC)

Concerning "EP" and "Single" at Seven Inches of Satanic Panic, the problem is the coding for the infobox, where only one "Type" is allowed. See Category:Album articles with non-standard infoboxes and Template:Infobox album. There is no problem with describing the complex nature of the release in the article's main text. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:18, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:In_the_news/Candidates#RD:_Sid_Haig

I have added your name to the updaters, as you are helping to get this passed. That way you will also get the credits for this ITNC nomination (if it gets ready to post, before getting stale). --DBigXrayᗙ 15:45, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

For awesome work in fixing the sourcing at Sid Haig. Hope this will charge you up for the final push. DBigXrayᗙ 16:56, 24 September 2019 (UTC)

On 25 September 2019, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Sid Haig, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page.

 — Amakuru (talk) 11:10, 25 September 2019 (UTC)

Moin MatthewHoobin,
sorry for the lagged message, I was on vacation. I'm referring to this edit - you'll agree that a personal conversation is not a valid source. We do have the Mike Stax article - if the information there is incorrect that needs to be sourced, otherwise it's a valid source and the info needs to go back into the article. A bit awkward to "prove" something has not happened, but "someone told me" is not the correct way. Please let me know your thoughts.
Kind regards, Grueslayer 09:40, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

@Grueslayer: Is there any sort of protocol for what to do when the subject of an article says that a piece of information is wrong? I've read up on WP:BLPPRIVACY and WP:BLPCOMPLAIN, and I'm thinking that perhaps we should have Mullen contact the oversight team? Mullen reached out to me via Facebook Messenger, so I can provide screenshots of that conversation if need be. –Matthew - (talk) 19:39, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Hi MatthewHoobin,

Wikipedia:Citing sources lists the types of possible sources quite comprehensively. Facebook Messenger is not among them. ;-) Is there any interview or other news coverage available online or in print where Mrs. Mullen communicated the same in public? Or any online or printed source that contests the Stax book passage?

Kind regards, Grueslayer 02:17, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Category:Films released by the Criterion Collection, which you created, has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Andrzejbanas (talk) 17:09, 17 December 2019 (UTC)