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Hi Legacypac,

Thank you for checking on my draft Bozo Vreco article. Just so you know, my draft is completely separate from the version written in Bosnian. I do not know who wrote that. When I had searched for a Wikipedia page on Bozo Vreco none had showed up, not even the Bosnian draft, so consider this one completely different. Thanks!

RachelWex RachelWex

Very good. We need the page in English anyway. Legacypac (talk) 15:32, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi Legacypac--I received a notification that my sandbox and draft Bozo Vreco article have been deleted!!! I searched and could not find it--do you know what happened? Maybe I am not searching the right way? Keep me posted--thanks! RachelWex 23:01, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

It's now at Draft:Božo Vrećo. The little marks (whatever they are called) are causing issues. I'll move it to Draft:Bozo Vreco instead. Legacypac (talk) 23:07, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

Diacritics, for what it's worth. And it should probably stay where it is, given language guidelines at whatnot. Primefac (talk) 23:11, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I already executed the move. When/if it goes to mainspace someone can decide which is preferred title and make a redirect for the other version. Page has not even been reviewed yet. Legacypac (talk) 23:14, 2 July 2017 (UTC)

I just deleted a page you had reviewed and submitted to AfC. The page was a straight recreation of the article that was deleted (which you linked to), which makes it a copyright violation, and also it was created by a problematic sockfarm likely involved in undisclosed paid editing. If the article is to be recreated I think it would be best to do it from scratch by locating reliable sources beforehand. Cheers. Ivanvector (^Talk/_Edits) 13:01, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Excellent. Legacypac (talk) 15:03, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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joe decker^talk 15:25, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

Another abandoned draft salvaged. Happy days. Legacypac (talk) 19:08, 3 July 2017 (UTC)

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Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 02:26, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

A request for arbitration in which you were involved has been declined. For the Arbitration Committee, Miniapolis 13:41, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

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SwisterTwister talk 00:06, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

Hello, Legacypac. Please check your email; you've got mail!
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Mkdw ^talk 03:06, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

I was not aware of that situation but I'm very honored to be named as someone that frustrates them. Legacypac (talk) 03:37, 10 July 2017 (UTC)

surrounding The upcoming trial? I think you'll be very interested in this and may wish to chime in there. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 02:57, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

I don't watch Jimbo's page as it's nonstop nonsense and this is the same old story. Those who refuse to get down and shovel excrement are full of explicit directions, pointed opinions and harsh criticism for those who actually do the hard work. You are hiding what you are doing! Why did you do this or that? Explain these diffs or it's off to ANi! Why bother deleting pages at all there is lots of server space. That page might maybe could be possibly useful someday even though it has no sources and we are not sure who or what it's supposed to be about and we can't ask the editor who plunked it down 7 years ago and buggered off. You did x y and z which I think are a mistake so you have a pattern of incompetence/gaming/some other wiki-sin but I'm ignoring the 5,000 incontestably correct similar actions during the same time period. Oh and my personal favourite - let's find half a sentence of some wiki process text to interpret as narrowly as possible to stop whatever cleanup you are doing today. And when all that does not work, they spend a lot of time trying to change the rules to make cleanup harder, which gives you more processes to watch.

That's today's rant for all the talk page stalkers. I rode almost two hours on a train for 30 cents watching peaceful rice fields pass by with no internet :) The 700 year old temple ruins were pretty interesting but my feet are sore and it's still too hot! Legacypac (talk) 12:41, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

[1] — fortunavelut luna 12:05, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, very well said! Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 12:47, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

Even in the coin forum I help Admin we manually approve the first 10 posts and refuse to allow new users to start buy or sell threads. It protects our hundreds of trusted users from idiots who are not there for a valid purpose. Let's see if someone is a little trustworthy before we allow them to do things that take significant work to clean up. Legacypac (talk) 12:57, 16 July 2017 (UTC)

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SwisterTwister talk 23:54, 28 July 2017 (UTC)

I am not sure what Taku is telling you in the previous message. What I want to tell you is that it is probably not worthwhile taking Taku's drafts individually to MfD as you did for draft:algebra over a monad. Taku has more than 150 drafts some of which have not been touched for three years and nearly all of which are of dubious notability. We have recently been successful in reducing the draftspace heaps of Mad7744 and Adem20. It might be worth raising Taku's stuff at WP:ANB.

Others to watch with large draft space presences are: Captain Assassin! - seems to be turning them over but has a few very old ones and BD2412 - 2000 draft articles - let us wait to see how many are still in draft space in twelve months time. (Note that my draflis.php reports may blow with database errors - they are hammering it rather heavily. If you re-load immediately, they should work because enough has moved into the server's cache.) — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 13:25, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Excellent info. I'm not planning to deal with the math ones one by one. There are ongoing discussions Wikipedia_talk:Drafts and on the Math project that my odd nom is helping along. We might be going to the notice board soon but I'm seeing movement now on his position. Expansion of G13 Wikipedia_talk:CSD will be a useful tool for these situations. Legacypac (talk) 14:06, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Hi,

I just wanted you to know User:TakuyaMurata/Drafts is no longer in use and also several of the pages linked there are redirects to the mainspace. -- Taku (talk) 09:20, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Ok thanks. Legacypac (talk) 09:24, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

If you are open to it, I wonder if we can just have private talk, that might be more predictive. You suggested I moved some draft pages to my user page. This doesn't make sense to me: isn't the purpose of the draftspace to hold drafts? If you think some drafts are problematic (i.e., not notable), they will still be problematic if I moved them to the user page. In other words, why the space where they belong matter? You also keep mentioning age: again why does it matter they are 6 months old or 6 years? I have been resistant since it's just not making sense. -- Taku (talk) 23:26, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

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Legacypac (talk) 06:58, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Your account has been granted the "pending changes reviewer" userright, allowing you to review other users' edits on pages protected by pending changes. The list of articles awaiting review is located at Special:PendingChanges, while the list of articles that have pending changes protection turned on is located at Special:StablePages.

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• Wikipedia:Pending changes, the summary of the use of pending changes
• Wikipedia:Protection policy#Pending changes protection, the policy determining which pages can be given pending changes protection by administrators. DGG ( talk ) 18:46, 14 June 2017 (UTC)

Note DGG used the wrong template here. He meant NPP as the heading suggests. Legacypac (talk) 16:50, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I just wanted to thank you for all your support on the ACTRIAL talks everywhere. Your words are measured and carry just the right level of impact to help those understand who might not have been following the action too closely.. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:39, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

We really need ACTRIAL and your long hard work to push it through is amazing. I'd do more work on it if I knew what to do. I've been cleaning up Draft space in preperation for a potential big uptick in Drafts due to ACTRIAL. There is a proposal ready to close at CSD_ talk re G13 that will help immensely in setting the table for ACTRIAL. Legacypac (talk) 15:44, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I don'tt personally believe there will be such a big increase in pages to AfC. If there is, most of them will be easy deletes. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 04:51, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2017 August 4#The Duke of Kent. --Nevé–selbert 19:52, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Legacypac. I have written a database report which finds pages in the draft namespace that aren't part of the AfC process. I have made it available, here (watch out, huge page). Hope this is helpful to your work. Regards, FASTILY 09:00, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

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Drewmutt (^ᴥ^) talk 00:50, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Hey, not sure you will notice, but it appears PantherMan sent this reply in response to your notification that their draft had been nominated for deletion. This user's talk page is on my watchlist after I sent them a warning some time ago. I think they're slightly naive about how Wikipedia works. Ss112 02:08, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

No I'm CSDing hundreds of pages and not watchlisting all the talk pages. I'm watching that one now. Thanks. Legacypac (talk) 02:12, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

For what it's worth, it could be about the article at AFD currently. Who knows. We've got eyes on it now. Primefac (talk) 02:13, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Can someone move this page to Template space to match it's parent? Draft:Template:TEDx/doc. I have no idea if I'm allowed so someone else can. Legacypac (talk) 02:19, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

I have requested a history merge into Template:TEDx/doc. GeoffreyT2000 ^{(talk, contribs)} 02:47, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

Any ideas to your submitting of Draft:Manoj Vedprakash Pandey and consequent rejection. The subject has zero notability and most likely intended to use WP as a promotional medium. It was outright G13-eligible.Cheers!Also see the personal website for some idea.Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 09:36, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

On its face the guy is a notable writer - or blowing smoke. Likely the later but I felt like giving a little chance. Deleting it is perfectly fine by me. Legacypac (talk) 09:39, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

First of all, do not leave templates on the talk pages of experienced editors, as it shows you only wish to be disruptive and not talk things out. Secondly, consider this your warning about edit warring over multiple pages. If you keep it up, I will see to it that you are blocked alongside Taku as your editing is just as bad. Stop this nonsense while you are ahead. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 21:58, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I've reported you. If you are an experenced editor you already know not to modify other people's signed posts, especially after they restore the unwanted changes. Legacypac (talk) 22:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

WP:TPO, policy overrules your feelings. Get a clue. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 22:02, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

TPO does not support what you are doing and the disruption you are facilitating. Let's have an Admin look at your behavior rather than further discussion. Legacypac (talk) 22:06, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Disambiguating or fixing links, if the linked-to page has moved, a talk page section has been archived, the link is simply broken by a typographical error, etc. It doesn't get clearer than that. Also, two reverts is not an edit war. So you will only be seen as further disruptive. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 22:08, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

"Never edit or move someone's comment to change its meaning, even on your own talk page. Striking text constitutes a change in meaning, and should only be done by the user who wrote it or someone acting at their explicit request." but nice try to use a carve out for non-controversial stuff. Legacypac (talk) 22:17, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

Are you incapable of reading? "Some examples of appropriately editing others' comments" right below that. Seriously? — nihlus kryik  (talk) 22:30, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

exceptions for uncontroversial stuff don't override the principle at the start. You have now vandalized many of my signed posts after I warned you. You need to be blocked to stop this disruption. Legacypac (talk)

Actually, that's exactly what it does. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 22:34, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

I should not have reverted your edit. The whole golden rule thing; I would not have liked if that were done to me. Please feel free to make whatever changes you feel are appropriate. No worries; it won't happen again. Fluous (talk) 21:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Ya its ok no need to get into a revert war over word order. Legacypac (talk) 21:26, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

You are now edit-warring. Your comments are not helpful to improve the article. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 17:29, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

I'm not edit warring. You know better than to remove talk page comments to hide your WP:OWNership behavior. Legacypac (talk) 17:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

You were recently listed as a party to or recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin/Evidence. Please add your evidence by 13 September 2017, which is when the evidence phase closes. You can also contribute to the case workshop subpage, Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin/Workshop. For a guide to the arbitration process, see Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide to arbitration. For the Arbitration Committee, Mkdw ^talk 05:22, 30 August 2017 (UTC)

Regarding this; I suggest dropping it and ceasing creating further drama. Good day. — nihlus kryik  (talk) 02:40, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

How about reverting your own changes to my signed posts? That would be the correct action. Legacypac (talk) 02:50, 2 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello. Are you interested in creating an article about this please? There are lots of RS on google.Zigzig20s (talk) 07:16, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

There might be one already. I don't create pages. Legacypac (talk) 07:18, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

No, there isn't, although it is mentioned in Jack Kershaw's article. But there are definitely enough RS for a full-fledged article.Zigzig20s (talk) 07:35, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Go ahead and start it. What an ugly statue! Legacypac (talk) 07:39, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

Not sure I have the spare time to create a good start-level article right now...Zigzig20s (talk) 10:22, 4 September 2017 (UTC)

I've started a stub in use: Nathan Bedford Forrest Statue. I will expand it in the next few days, but I don't have time to spend 10 hours on it in one sitting.Zigzig20s (talk) 04:40, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Also started Nathan Bedford Forrest Bust. Since you've done such an amazing job with the statue, please do expand the bust too if you can. Thank you!Zigzig20s (talk) 06:13, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

The history section includes cross-burnings. Over a bust. I can't even.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:23, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Good work. The depth of available criticism is amazing on the Nashville one. Legacypac (talk) 08:30, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes, it's totally weird. I need coffee now.Zigzig20s (talk) 08:36, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Great job on the monstrosity. Do you intend to expand the one about the bust too please?Zigzig20s (talk) 15:37, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

When I get some time. The first needs some cleanup and maybe reordering the sections. Legacypac (talk) 16:16, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you. If someone uploads a picture on Commons, it could become a popular DYK.Zigzig20s (talk) 16:38, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

There is also the Confederate Private Monument.Zigzig20s (talk) 11:37, 6 September 2017 (UTC)

Hey, you recently submitted another draft of mine, Draft:Lars Trier Awards, as an AfC. Fortunately or unfortunately, I already created/revised an article based on that draft (List of awards and nominations received by Lars von Trier), so an AfC submission doesn't really make sense. Therefore, you could delete the draft (or whatever the right thing to do is in that situation). But this problem leads me to a question you might be able to answer. Since I can't delete the drafts after I made them into an article, what can I do so they don't get pointlessly submitted later? Should I blank them or is there something else I could do? I have currently two other drafts like that. Thanks Felida97 (talk) 20:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Normally you should move the Draft to mainspace with the move button (hidden under more). If you already copy pasted you should redirect the Draft to the mainspace page or request a history merge. I've redirected this one. Legacypac (talk) 22:56, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I will do that for the other ones. Felida97 (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Legacypac, and thanks for your message.
The context of this draft is here. The page was copied in almost its entirety from this commercial gallery's website. The user who created the page hasn't edited since March 2017. ) I'll put some work into the draft.
Pete AU aka--Shirt58 (talk) 09:34, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm just working a long list of stale drafts and that one was very short. She's definitely notable, I might even work on that page too. Looks interesting. Legacypac (talk) 09:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

In relation to your evidence submissions at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Arthur Rubin/Evidence#Evidence presented by Legacypac, please be aware that the Arbitration Committee does not take evidence on subpages into account. Please remove the link to all such subpages from the Evidence page, and transfer what material you want to submit for consideration to your own section (within the confines of the word limit). If you would like an increase in this limit up to 1000 words, please ask on the talk page. Please also note that the scope of this case should also be discussed on the talk page. For the Arbitration Committee, Mdann52 (talk) 19:48, 10 September 2017 (UTC)

In other words, "please dance precisely to Arbcom's tune because they're not taking this case or anything related to TRM seriously. It would be better if we could ban TRM from Wikipedia altogether, so we're really disappointed that you and a number of others have seen fit to disagree with Arbcom's attempts to hang, draw and quarter TRM here and even more disappointed that no evidence has been given to allow us to do that, we'll have to do that ourselves with our completely unbiased Arbs, some of whom have (ironically) been uncivil to TRM". Yup, that's how it works. Is there a mechanism for abolishing this shambolic bunch and calling new elections early? The Rambling Man (talk) 19:40, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

TRM, I don't have the experience at ARBCOM you do (nor do I want to!) but it looks like I need to sit at a computer and rework my evidence tonight. I don't think AR will be banned but perhaps he will lose the tools which will make him less dangerous. Legacypac (talk) 20:36, 11 September 2017 (UTC)

Thank you - of course, if you do need to request a word extension, feel free to do so. Let me know if you have any questions on this. Mdann52 (talk) 20:56, 12 September 2017 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is User:Legacypac's WP:ASPERSIONS. VQuakr (talk) 02:20, 14 September 2017 (UTC)

Just curious about how the list went from being approved to being deleted to being restored - I saw each happen but I was on a work computer away from home and my work ip is blocked, preventing me from editing. I'm glad it's back - I don't usually do lists so after a certain point I put it in to the articles for creation to get a second opinion for publishing it. So I was puzzled to have it deleted as untouched since I was waiting til it was agreed before doing any further editing.... ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 11:59, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Antiqueight, to answer your question, it was because the draft was nominated (improperly) for G13 (i.e. "stale draft") deletion. The error was noticed and the draft was restored.

Legacy, I know everyone makes mistakes, but given that you submitted the draft and G13'd it (after it had been accepted) it leads me to think you're blindly clicking without looking. Please be more careful with this sort of thing Primefac (talk) 14:18, 17 September 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

Weird it was already accepted to mainspace yet still showed up on the StaleDraft report. Thanks to whoever caught that. Legacypac (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Seems like the report isn't updating as often as it should (or as often as would be ideal), since you submitted the draft one day before it was accepted (two days before it was CSDd). It was restored due to a REFUND request. It could also be a cache issue on your end; might be worth talking to MusikAnimal about it. Primefac (talk) 16:09, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks all for the reply. I was dead curious as to how it had happened. Glad it's restored. I'll put in some more time on it. ☕ Antiqueight ^haver 16:26, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Yes there have been some report issues. A few deleted pages kept showing up on the list. I've noticed a few promoted or redirected pages continue to show on list the next day. Normally I catch them, but evidemtly missed this one. I got to the bottom of a list which once had 10,000 pages on it - and over 5,000 when CSD G13 expanded several weeks ago. There have been only a handful of what could be considered errors and complaints and a whole lotbof promlematic lages deleted. This list has no sources - I'm surprised it got accepted a AFC, but it's ok. Legacypac (talk) 16:27, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, I did get your ping at User talk:MusikBot/StaleDrafts/Report/AfC, and indeed it looks like I forgot to commit the code that makes the AfC version of that report. It's there now! :) Will updating daily be enough? The queries take a little while to run so we can't do it in real time or anything. I suppose you'll always have to re-check the revision history and make sure the draft hasn't been modified since the report was made — MusikAnimal ^talk 16:40, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

I'll comment on the report talk pages. Daily is plenty often. Legacypac (talk) 16:53, 17 September 2017 (UTC)

Re. User:Unknown :) — fortunavelut luna 06:37, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

thanks for spotting out my mistakes. please I need assistance seeing I am new to Wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rexjae (talk • contribs) 14:51, 18 September 2017 (UTC)

Hi Legacypac

Can you please let me know why the page on Anand Padmanabhan was deleted? I have also given a reason for this page to be present in the encyclopedia. Please let me know if you can get back to me on this?

The page did not make a creditable claim of significance.[2] Legacypac (talk) 18:59, 20 September 2017 (UTC) pinging User:RickinBaltimore who would be Admin to talk to and who should delete the talk page too. Legacypac (talk) 19:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by I dream of horses was:

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The inline citations seem to link back to the article. It's suggested you have at least three inline citations, and ideally five or more anyways.

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Hello! Legacypac, I noticed your article was declined at Articles for Creation, and that can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there!  I dream of horses  If you reply here, please ping me by adding {{U|I dream of horses}} to your message  (talk to me) (My edits) @ 07:45, 21 September 2017 (UTC)

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Ismail H.A. Ziyaeddin. Thanks! DGG ( talk ) 05:43, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

Ismail H.A. Ziyaeddin, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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DGG ( talk ) 05:45, 22 September 2017 (UTC)

I restored the undisclosed paid template on PG Paper Company until Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Jacob O'Brien is acted upon by a CU. TonyBallioni (talk) 21:37, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Ok, the page is neural, the business notable and it's well cited. The owner has a OBE amd is therefore notable too. Legacypac (talk) 22:01, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your work looking at it. I was unsure as to the owner: I was under the impression that we did not count OBE as qualifying under ANYBIO (this is the most recent discussion I could find on it). TonyBallioni (talk) 22:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

I'm not an expert on that, but an OBE sure can't hurt. I recall another page where little was known about the person but an OBE was judged to be enough on its own to pass notability. Legacypac (talk) 22:48, 23 September 2017 (UTC)

A quick look (I may have course have missed something) suggests to me that that the owner's OBE doesn't contribute to the company's notability - although I too was always under the impression that an OBE is good for a BLP. I think Tony's SPI case is well founded and that we should go with that for the time being, at least until we get the CU report, and if you can turn up anything more it would be appreciated. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 00:50, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Agreed, the OBE does not help the company. I came on this reviewing Unreviewed new pages by new users that predate ACTRIAL. Legacypac (talk) 01:01, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

I don't think it appropriate for you to move un-submitted sandbox entries into draftspace and submit them yourself. I have a many user sandboxes myself and I'd be horrified if someone stole my work.

Further, the decline on that draft was correct, as the sourcing did not support the claims of notability. Again, the editor that wrote the user sandbox entry in 2011 was ignorant of the process and you should not have inserted yourself. Complaining after the decline is laughable. Why not accept the draft yourself? You're not helping AfC by introducing more work for other editors to deal with. And if you want to complain, why not ping that editor or contact them on their talk page? You're just spitting into the wind to make a silly comment about how the subject is notable.

Please re-think what you're doing here on Wikipedia. Chris Troutman (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for reviewing the page Draft:George Payne Cossar. I'm working a backlog that occasionally yields a viable page while clearing out crap that should be deleted. Every contribution is released for use the second you save it, so don't be horrified. I seriously doubt the editor that wrote the page 6 years ago and left the site would be upset about me trying to get the page into mainspace.

The decline was incorrect because the subject, as sourced, meets WP:NPOL #1 as I articulated. 32 years in a US state legislator and having a state park named for you gets you an article. Further there is no way that page would be deleted or even nominated for AfD. I can't move the page directly into article space because of a very ill advised unsubstantiated restriction. Now maybe one of my many talk page watchers will accept the draft. Carry on. Legacypac (talk) 20:52, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Was he a Democrat or Republican? And yes, he is notable.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:57, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Democrat.^[1] Anyway if I build out every topic perfectly the cleanup does not get done. I've had many many abandoned pages accepted via AfC. Legacypac (talk) 21:14, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Why not go live? I hardly ever bother with drafts.Zigzig20s (talk) 21:32, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Someone just needs to accept the draft. I found it while cleaning up this backlog https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Stale_userspace_drafts Legacypac (talk) 21:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello Legacypac. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of H Extremo, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: A7 cannot be applied to magazines. Thank you. SoWhy 12:42, 25 September 2017 (UTC)

Hello Legacypac. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Udayan Duwara, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: previously declined. Please do not re-tag articles for the same criterion after an admin has already declined to delete it but use other venues. Thank you. SoWhy 14:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Aguyintobooks was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage (not just mere mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies, the golden rule and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners and Help:Introduction to referencing/1), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Group ELSA-Mifroma. Thanks! Legacypac (talk) 22:22, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Bright☀ 10:51, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

I already said the above heading at the ANI, but I hate that place so I thought I'd put it here too: you really didn't have to restore that comment. It was clearly removed on accident, I saw it at the time, did nothing, and promptly forgot about it. I'm sorry its being brought up now, I wouldn't have even remembered it if I wasn't pinged. No need to remove it again, but you went the extra mile there. Anyway, all the best :) TonyBallioni (talk) 16:16, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Pit-os, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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Domdeparis (talk) 08:36, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

A few interesting paragraphs in this opinion piece!Zigzig20s (talk) 16:29, 29 September 2017 (UTC) And this.Zigzig20s (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

There is some info we could add to the article you created; however, we would need better sources (as we can't cite opinion pieces).Zigzig20s (talk) 22:44, 29 September 2017 (UTC)

It is a fanmade article so its not much use. feel free to remove it.-76.174.35.70 (talk) 15:26, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Hey there. I don't know how others feel but in the future do not submit my drafts to AfC. I'm fully capable of doing so myself and will do so in my own time. Thanks. CHRISSYMAD ❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 22:13, 3 October 2017 (UTC)