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Close to Home (Aitch album)

I am very confused by your revert of my edits to Close to Home (Aitch album) and the updates you made in their place. Using the track listing template when there are a variety of writers and producers seemed most appropriate, and you removed credited personnel for reasons I don't quite understand. The original version of the personnel section was/is incredibly cluttered largely due to the production credits, and the rewritten track list you provided is virtually unreadable to me.

Obviously I'm not the only person working on album articles and my opinion isn't the only one, but I've always understood your reverts/re-edits in the past and this one is confounding me. Can you help me understand what made you change the article in this way, as opposed to keeping the edit I made? Sock (tock talk) 11:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

The track listing template is ugly and I don't like it. This article already has an established style, and I didn't see a need to change it. Which credited personnel were removed? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 20:00, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
I'm only two and a half months late but I didn't get notified of this response for some reason, sorry about that! You're absolutely right about the established style and I've adjusted my editing habits in the time since to stop restructuring album articles in the way that I typically do them if I'm adding additional information, so that part I'm happy to drop out of my confusion. I also saw that you [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Close_to_Home_(Aitch_album)&oldid=1158710128restored the producers to the infobox], which was much obliged and one of the things I figured you agreed with from my initial edit.
In regards to the personnel that was removed or altered, this was my mistake. I found the CD liner notes and can see that the "bass guitar/drums/guitar/etc." credits are not on the actual record, so I totally get why you undid those. I also missed some of your follow-up edits where you restored the handful of people I saw that were initially missing. The only minor things I went back to correct is that Fred Again is just credited as FRED and that Aminé is credited for additional vocals, but overall I was off the mark here.
The only thing I'm still confused by is the removal of featured artists from the track listing, which is especially surprising since I don't think I've ever seen a track listing that doesn't include features in that section. The vocalists are still in the Personnel section, but that doesn't acknowledge that they're specifically credited as featured artists.
Sorry for the novel, conciseness evidently isn't one of my strong suits. Sock (tock talk) 16:58, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
No worries at all, friend. We aren't obliged to reproduce liner notes exactly as they are written, so I don't make it a point to force every bit of information that is used for marketing or inside jokes or extraneous thanks, etc. into the article. I think that "Song" (featuring [Person]) is just marketing that is not relevant to understanding a track listing, so I don't include it. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 19:03, 21 August 2023 (UTC)

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Hello. Just curious how you came noticed my edit to Template:The Go! Team? It doesn't appear you've edited it before... Ss112 07:59, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

It's on my watchlist. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template_talk:The_Go!_Team&action=historyJustin (koavf)TCM 08:00, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
Oh. Thanks for letting me know! Ss112 08:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
No problem. Thanks for improving the article. Have a nice day. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 08:02, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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why don't you answer anonymous users when asking questions in chat massage?? Xhuuiya (talk) 12:44, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

What chat? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 15:22, 7 June 2023 (UTC)

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Mewgenics edit

Hey, Koavf. I hope you're doing well. I just wanted to bring up an edit you made to Mewgenics that may have included a typo, as it looks like you were going to insert a template, but it didn't come out right. Just wanted to see if you had thoughts on it. BOTTO (TC) 00:09, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

That it did, friend! Merci. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 00:10, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
Thank you so much! I appreciate you putting in work on an article for what will surely be another significant chapter in Edmund McMillen's career. :) BOTTO (TC) 16:32, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

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African Union

This is slightly disingenuous, especially since you have a long history with the article and were the only one fully supporting retention. I'm not going to contest it since in the grand scheme of things it doesn't matter, but the consensus was to delete, not redirect. Star Mississippi 19:13, 11 June 2023 (UTC)

What is disingenuous? I didn't make a claim about the consensus, but what would have been most prudent or best practice. As I'm sure you know, sometimes during these discussions, someone will bring up an alternative that not everyone else has considered. Do you think that deletion is better than redirecting? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 19:15, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
this should have been redirected is making a claim about the consensus. In this case, deletion v. retention is moot, since the problematic content (from the POV of discussion participants) is no longer present with the redirect being created post deletion. That's what I meant by grand scheme of things. But yes, the call to redirect or not would have been better made by someone who wasn't the creator who also !voted keep. Like I said, not contesting it, but your statement is not a reflection of what "should" have happened as an outcome of that AfD. Star Mississippi 19:19, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I was not making a claim about the consensus and saying "You messed up by not reading the discussion correctly", I was making a claim about best practice and saying "This will result in the most useful approach for others". I don't think I understand your answer to my question: can you please reword it and just say yes or no? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 19:29, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
I think I understand your decision a little more here (wrong conclusion v. most helpful). So all good with your decision/redirection. Have a good one. Star Mississippi 20:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
Sure. Sorry for my ambiguity. "I don't think I understand your answer to my question: can you please reword it and just say yes or no? " ―Justin (koavf)TCM 20:21, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
@Star Mississippi:Justin (koavf)TCM 10:48, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Missed your last reply, apologies.
Yes, the redirect is helpful to the reader. Star Mississippi 12:29, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
No worries--thanks kindly for answering and being a helpful admin. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 12:40, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
Always happy to help! Star Mississippi 00:38, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Hi Koavf, I have received your replies and intend to answer. I am taking my time to write a through post though, so it may be a while. In the meantime, do you think you could comment on this thread? Thanks! --Bbb23exposed 185.199.231.45 (talk) 15:10, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Oh boy. This seems complex... ―Justin (koavf)TCM 15:12, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Are you going to read all of it? Cheers, --Bbb23exposed 185.199.229.156 (talk) 15:21, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
I may. Seems like a lot to digest and it's about a topic that I don't particularly enjoy thinking about. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 15:24, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
If you do read the whole thing, will you leave a comment with your own thoughts/observations? --Bbb23exposed (talk) 15:38, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
Yes. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 15:44, 15 June 2023 (UTC)

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Sales charts/Sales certifications

Hi Koavf. I hope this message finds you well. I wanted to bring to your attention a minor concern regarding the headings "Sales certifications" and "Sales charts" that I noticed you are using. I believe there might be a slight inaccuracy in these terms. Firstly, when referring to certifications, it's worth noting that historically they were primarily based on shipments rather than actual sales. Nowadays, they are mostly determined by streams, which do not necessarily equate to sales figures. Therefore, it would be more accurate to use the term "Certifications" instead of "Sales certifications." Similarly, the term "Sales charts" might not accurately depict the content being referred to, as many, or even most, charts are based on airplay rather than sales. Furthermore, other charts utilize metrics such as streams or even impressions, which further deviate from direct sales figures. Have fun editing! --Muhandes (talk) 09:46, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

Neat, thanks! I always appreciate someone making me less ignorant. Be well, friend. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 09:47, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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Peacefully resolve edit war

Hello, I want to discuss the dispute of colors being added to page content. Adding colors to track listings, like you have done to Pigments (album), serves no purpose except to maybe look cooler. Colors (Ken Nordine album) as well, especially the "flesh" track which seems like just a gradient of skin colors?

You made what looks like a dispute compromise to Pigments by listing the colors in a line after the tracks?

One minute after reverting me you added {{inuse}} to Colors (Ken Nordine album) and went along your way (possibly to prevent me from removing those colored tracks as well?) Please let me know. Apmh 16:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

I had already added the color samples to the article a day(s) prior and had been working on that album on and off for several hours: see the edit history. I'm not assuming that you're trying to start edit wars all about, just marking it as I probably should have prior to starting a spate of edits. If you want to remove the color bar, whatever. Don't add the track listing template and don't act like my edits are vandalism and need to be reverted with an anti-vandalism tool: that's poor form at best and poisons the well for discussion. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 16:56, 29 June 2023 (UTC)

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Succession boxes

Hello, I hope you are well. I just noticed this edit of yours to Stevie Wonder's album [1] and wanted to let you know MOS:CHARTS tells editors not to include succession boxes for songs and albums. I remember them being deleted from most articles years ago. 120.17.217.85 (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)

Hello again. Not sure if you got my previous message but I have removed the succession boxes from the articles you added it to. Hope that's ok. There was an RFC in 2018 that led to it being added to the guideline. 120.17.217.85 (talk) 00:31, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
Merci! I'll stop. Great looking out, friend. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 00:32, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

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When the Poems Do What They Do moved to draftspace

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Why did you post this? ―Justin (koavf)TCM 12:18, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
@Kleuske:Justin (koavf)TCM 12:41, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
The article wasn't ready for main article space (lacking sources and content). In draftspace you can work on it in peace. Kleuske (talk) 12:43, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
@Kleuske: did you see that it was tagged {{inuse}}? The only person who disturbed my peace about editing it was you by moving it. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 12:45, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
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