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On 28 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article We choose to go to the Moon, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that President John F. Kennedy (pictured) said: "We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/We choose to go to the Moon. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, We choose to go to the Moon), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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Hello. A note about your edit summary here: You wrote, 'Use English, not French, spelling of "meter".' Metre is the English spelling for the unit of length. Perhaps you meant 'Use American spelling'? There's no problem with that. An early version of the article uses 'kilometer' and an argument could be made to keep it in US English. But please understand that metre is English as well as French, just as meter (or, rather, Meter) is German as well as American English. Cheers, BlackcurrantTea (talk) 10:05, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Hi JustinTime55. I'm confused as to how you can claim that Understanding Comics is not a comic book about comics. Have you read the book? The entire book is told using "juxtaposed pictorial and other images in deliberate sequence, intended to convey information and/or to produce an aesthetic response in the viewer." In addition, the author Scott McCloud himself calls it "a 215-page comic book about comics.^[1] So does the publisher's blurb for the book: "This innovative comic book provides a detailed look at the history, meaning, and art of comics and cartooning."^[2] I could cite many, many other examples that state this book is indeed a comic book. My thought was, sure, it's a book about comics, but it's much accurately a comic book about comics. Which is why I thought adding the extra category would be helpful to Wikipedia users. -- stoshmaster (talk) 19:18, 6 January 2017 (UTC)

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Okay, I guess you learn something new every day. I'll self-revert. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing the broken RM close over at Talk:Dan Rowan. I think I've got it patched up now in a way that preserves a better record of what happened. No idea what went wrong with that close, 11 years ago.

Thanks again. -GTBacchus^(talk) 19:56, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

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I’m sorry to bother you, but I’ve been reading several books on the early days of NASA and am from Nashwauk, MN. Nobody I have talked to in this town have heard of him. I find this disturbing as I believe him an American hero. I was wondering if you could recommend some places or sources I could research to rectify this oversight by my town? Thank you Krhalvorson (talk) 03:20, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Hey JustinTime, was wondering if you would be interested in working on Aldrin, Collins, or the Apollo 11 article in preparation for the 50th anniversary of the lunar landing. If you would prefer to copyedit my work and other cleanup efforts, that is a great help as well. I know you have some experience with the mission articles, so the Apollo 11 article may be good for you if you would like to work on it. No worries regardless of your choice. Thanks! Kees08 (Talk) 03:35, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you, for recently correcting my erroneously-italicized spacecraft names, in the Oceanus Proclearum article. It was especially helpful of you to have provided links to relevant guidelines and discussions, regarding my mistake. I appreciate that you have shown me how to improve my editing. catsmoke (talk) 03:50, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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At this one you mangled a footnote. Not sure what else. Maybe you can sort it out. Dicklyon (talk) 03:17, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

Can't figure out how that happened; the stray text must have been somehow related to the next edit I made to include the Apollo 7 picture of the cockeyed panel (sticky keyboard in a cut-and-paste or something). It seems moot now, and I don't think anything else is wrong. I usually don't make that kind of error. Good catch. JustinTime55 (talk) 18:33, 14 December 2018 (UTC)

I wrote three because, as the cite says, there were three: One for attitude control, and two (one for each astronaut) for forward/reverse. Since either two or three is a valid description depending on how one counts the sticks, and neither number is really important, it is better to keep me reverted on this edit. Ylee (talk) 02:21, 18 December 2018 (UTC)

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Hello, Justin!

I am planning an update to the Gemini missions, starting with Gemini 1. Since you are both the most recent substantial contributor to that article and also a veteran in WP SF, I wanted to make sure I collaborated with you on the endeavor. My conception was that I would add more on the background, goals, mission details, and legacy of the mission, as I've done with my SOLRAD series.

Do you have any comments or insight? And thank you for all that you do! :) --Neopeius (talk) 15:47, 11 March 2019 (UTC)

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Would you be interested in co-nomming this article with me at FAC? Hawkeye7 (discuss) 10:28, 8 May 2019 (UTC)

"Sorry, that photo is not consistent with consensus for all the other astronauts; look there and discuss on this talk page"

Hello. "look there" where? Thanks. MachoCarioca (talk) 03:00, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Start with Mercury Seven and go to the biographies of all the seven astronauts; check the type of portraits used in their infoboxes.

The important thing is that you start a discussion on Talk:Gordon Cooper if you want to persuade people to change the sytle. There is also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Spaceflight where you might want to put a brief query to the spaceflight project members where the best place to discuss this issue is. JustinTime55 (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Well, I know the biographies, I know the images but I didn't find out any consensus about what style of images to use or even if there was any discussion about that previously. I need to "persuade people" to change an image? Or persuade you? As I know it stayed there for almost 48 hs, an article with high visibility and a lot of "vigilants" and only you are arguing with that. Ok, this talk is enough for me, your image stays. Good morning and have a nice day. MachoCarioca (talk) 14:32, 21 May 2019 (UTC)

Hi. The Apollo Lunar Module is the name of the first true spaceship. A kind of clunky name, but a proper name nonetheless. The Apollo command and service module had an RM which lower-cased it, but it does seem to be a proper name to a lot of editors and readers. We are in the 2019 season of Apollo, and it's an honor for editors to edit Apollo and other space related articles. And lots of vandals too. Thanks, and enjoy the 50th. Randy Kryn (talk) 14:27, 7 June 2019 (UTC)

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BS; you are the edit warrior, not me. Your editing history and talk page shows a history of contention. You have not discussed the two issues I raised on the talk page. JustinTime55 (talk) 01:19, 12 June 2019 (UTC)

Hi Justin. Given the upcoming anniversary of the moon landings, I noticed you did a lot of work on a quite a few related articles. Would you be interested in submitting any for external, academic peer review?

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The WP:WikiJournal article nominations page should allow simple submission of existing Wikipedia pages for external review. T.Shafee(Evo&Evo)^talk 06:34, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry, they saw it if they removed it. They may remove it. That they chose to ignore it is another matter. I'd already made not of the removed warning.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 20:59, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Okay, I just thought it was necessary to prove due process (i.e. sufficient warnings given before blocking action taken). JustinTime55 (talk)

Warnings remain in the page history, and can be permalinked to if needed to be mentioned in discussion, even if the user removes them from the page as currently displayed. There is no need to restore them. General Ization ^Talk 21:42, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Leave their Talk page alone. It's none of your concern.--Bbb23 (talk) 21:22, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Please stop. Please consider this a final warning. Doing I really link the policy for you. Right now you are edit warring.  Dlohcierekim (talk) 22:04, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

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Excuse me; I made those changes in good faith as I explained above. As soon as I received these warnings I stopped, and did not revert the reversions of my changes. I am not edit warring. Thank you for the education. JustinTime55 (talk) 12:42, 9 July 2019 (UTC)

Dear JustinTime55, Please help me edit NASA Astronaut Group 6. I didn't know it was breaking the article. I am only a young boy, and am inexperienced in this field. Can you please help me. I only left it that way in the hopes that someone would notice and help me. Please have compassion and help me. Jgwilliams873 (talk) 19:41, 2 August 2019 (UTC)Jgwilliams873

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I have not engaged in any edit war; I simply replaced all your "citation needed" tags with section tags which adequately state that the sections need citations for verification (or more citations). Kindly knock off the threats. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:52, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

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What do you call them? We call them "ankle-biters" here. Hawkeye7 (discuss) 01:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Your edit comment here was both rude and inaccurate. "Their" very much exists as "singular indeterminate gender" in English. If you don't believe me, ask Merriam-Webster ("used with an indefinite third person singular antecedent"), Dictionary.com ("used with a singular indefinite pronoun or singular noun antecedent in place of the definite masculine his or the definite feminine her"), Cambridge English Dictionary ("Their is also used to refer to a person whose sex is not known"), the AP Style Guide considers it acceptable in some cases. The singular "they" is far from a new invention, we have a reasonably good article on it that is worth reviewing. I suggest that you undo your edit. --Nat Gertler (talk) 16:23, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

You are entitled to your opinion, Nat, as I am entitled to mine, along with 542 other Wikipedians who still consider it substandard English usage. Dictionaries document common usage among everyone, not necessarily users of encyclopedic language. "Singular they", I consider to be substandard, so I meant that there is no gender-neutral word in standard usage.

As for being "rude", I don't believe I was. There was nothing wrong, rude, or unfair to women about changing it to read "each character explores his or her". Derick1259 apparently didn't find it rude either; he apparently agrees with the usage too, and avoided the issue by rewriting it with good humor to use the plural "characters" and "their". JustinTime55 (talk) 13:59, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

There was definitely something rude about the edit summary telling people to "Deal with it", particularly after the false claim that "no such English word exists." You could have left a comment simply stating that you find "he or she" to be more formal and thus more encyclopedic; it still would have been an edit that added unnecessarily clumsy wording into the piece, but it would not have been both false and condescending.

I did find it amusing that you then went and added Template:User -genderneutral to your page, claiming that you support the vernacular when the change that you made went against the vernacular. (And I'm confused why you're only concerned about being "wrong, rude, or unfair to women", emphasis added.)--Nat Gertler (talk) 14:44, 23 October 2019 (UTC)

Re this revert, my reading of the relevant part of MOSNUM:

• In all other articles, the primary units chosen will be SI units, non-SI units officially accepted for use with the SI, or such other units as are conventional in reliable-source discussions of the article topic (such as revolutions per minute (rpm) for rotational speed, hands for heights of horses, et cetera).

is that SI units are recommended as the primary units in all scientific articles, absent a clear topic-specific reason to the contrary. Given that the use of legacy units such as acres is extremely deprecated in scientific practice, this is not usually controversial.

I will not start revert-warring over this, but I would dispute that my edit was anything more than a trivial change to a MOS-preferred style; unit conversions are normally considered to be minor edits. My suggestion for MOSNUM compliance would be to use the convert template with appropriate precision, something like "...a 1-hectare (2.5-acre) area of the Earth's surface receives a peak 10 megawatts of sunlight power at noon" (with minor rewording). Archon 2488 (talk) 17:13, 4 November 2019 (UTC)

"system of power simulators" - "system of exercise devices". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Россиянин2019 (talk • contribs) 16:36, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

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Your use of language is incorrect. The reference to the speed of sound IS the “mach number,” BUT, the actual SPEED of sound IS mach one. Believe me, as I am a life-long pilot, since October of 1955 (aged 21), having learned in the USAF Aviation Cadet Programm. I’ve circled the globe, piecemeal, at .82mach in Boeing 707 aircraft for Pan Am (and a goodly portion at 200kts TAS in Douglas C-124 aircraft for the USAF). I have 37 years of cockpit experience using these terms daily. The speed relative to the speed of sound (Mach one) is ones Mach numberer. And, BTW, I was an “A” student in English, also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Billpits (talk • contribs) 13:28, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

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Just curious as to why you changed my edit. You suggested in your edit summary that what I had put in wasn't the meaning of the sentence. However, as it stood, it wasn't grammatically correct. Your addition of a comma basically has the same affect as my previous addition of the word were. I do prefer your version. --82.21.97.70 (talk) 22:17, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

Adding were changes the meaning to two separate clauses: 1. All of these objects are space probes; and 2. Their upper stages were launched by NASA.

The actual intent of the sentence was: 1. Some of these objects are space probes; 2. The ones which aren't space probes are their upper stages; and 3. All of these objects (probes and upper stages) were launched by NASA. JustinTime55 (talk) 22:28, 12 March 2020 (UTC)

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Since it was a quote it was replete with punctuation errors "(sic)".... from the third citation...

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"We already mention their 1967 move to KRLA later on in the next section. Is there some non-clumsy way to rewrite this merged?"

I think that, since this was a live broadcast by KRLA, as well a nightclub performance, this must be the first mention of KRLA. Live broadcasts of ticketed performances are historically rare. I am not fussy about a better wording.

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If I made Saturn V a GA? Signed,The4lines |||| ^{(You Asked?) (What I have Done.)} 17:42, 21 June 2020 (UTC)

Why would I mind? JustinTime55 (talk) 11:06, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Because you were the main editor. I'm fixing it up right now. Feel free to help. Signed,The4lines |||| ^{(You Asked?) (What I have Done.)} 03:08, 7 July 2020 (UTC)

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You reverted my talk page change [2] as if you thought i was moving or renaming a main space article. I merely extended a comment heading to try to better summarise for all. I think you misunderstood my change, or could you explain please. - Rod57 (talk) 15:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

@Rod57:No, I didn't think you were moving or renaming the article. I explained my reasoning in the edit summary: the thread dates from 2004, and is essentially moot. I saw no value in changing the heading of an obsolete post, even to clarify it. It's of no value to people discussing the article as it exists today. In an ideal world, long-lasting talk pages have archival set up, so the obsolete post would be gone, anyway. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:20, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

It'd be best to archive old sections like that, imo. -Fnlayson (talk) 18:43, 3 August 2020 (UTC)

I moved this to Talk:List of humorists where it should have been posted, so that all editors can participate in consensus building. JustinTime55 (talk) 16:54, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

I learned something new about section headings because of your reverts to my recent edits. Thanks for that! Too many editors simply revert without a useful explanation. You were helpful, and it is appreciated. :) 1980fast (talk) 03:56, 14 August 2020 (UTC)

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The subject comment was left in the edit summary of the following edit under your name: [3] Because of my "illiteracy", I may be misunderstanding your comment, but it appears to be inconsistent with WP:CIV. Sparkie82 (t•c) 17:26, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

No, it is not uncivil at all, just because you don't like it. By illiteracy, I was referring to nothing more nor less than the difference between "metal" and a medal. By POV, I mean that your edit seemed designed to bash president Bush and also Cosby. President Obama's comments on the matter cover the subject in a balanced way. I see you've removed it by arbitrarily calling it "non-notable". I don't believe it qualifies as non-notable. JustinTime55 (talk) 17:36, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

OK, if you say you were not being uncivil, I'll assume you mean that in good faith. I'll say in good faith that I did not intend my edit to be POV in any way, I was merely attempting to add background so readers would understand the full context of the event and so it would read more clearly. Also, FYI there is significant difference between dyslexia and illiteracy, but perhaps you were just being hyperbolic. Sparkie82 (t•c) 22:17, 25 January 2021 (UTC)

I sincerely appreciate the welcome and the help, JustinTime55! ♥

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Hi JustinTime55. I respectfully disagree with you that the Fields poster sighting on Freaks and Geeks is trivial. My husband and I just rewatched the show and I was intrigued by the poster. It took my husband and me about 15 minutes of very creative Googling to figure out who the man in the poster was and I'm just trying to help others on the path to learn more about such an interesting man. Thanks for your consideration! Captainmomerica (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

I am very sorry to write "policy" in place of "affairs" in Presidency of Joe Biden page and arguing over it. Please forgive me for disturbing you! Chandan Kanti Paul (talk) 15:54, 25 February 2021 (UTC)

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Space Race § NPOV issues. 204.15.72.92 (talk) 12:37, 4 July 2022 (UTC)

 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard § NPOV issues in some sections at Space Race. 204.15.72.92 (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey JustinTime, I was’nt after a debate on who won the space race. My main issue was that quote was out of context for that article. The reason why I added the bit about contraversy was I tried to make a compromise edit with Bilcat, but they just reverted both my edits Ilenart626 (talk) 21:20, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

I'm well aware of the edit history, thank you. We still need to thoughtfully reach consensus on whether or not to mention some think it the end. Many times, reaching consensus requires some debate. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:42, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Hey Justin, I had added a BBC foreign language citation into the article which you reverted under "citation overkill". Just for your information it is partially a result of an ongoing discussion at WP:NPOVN#First_human_spaceflight, and on the verge of going to WP:RFC due to it on a tense stalemate.193.233.171.17 (talk) 12:56, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Thank you, I'm aware of the NPOVN. You are the one which seems to be defying consensus; another user, ‎@Ilenart626: has also removed your citations from the other two, citing lack of consensus. As the Overkill essay says, simply coat-racking more citations to support your side can be bad form. A Chinese version of BBC doesn't really add anything to verify Gagarin's first spaceflight (which is not in contention anyway). JustinTime55 (talk) 16:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

As Chipmunkdavis might say, "tense stalemate" is certainly one way to describe all other editors agreeing that your suggestions are bad. TompaDompa (talk) 14:13, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for the support; glad to see I'm recognized as a "subject matter expert". I've stayed out of the fray; it seems like way too much WP:Wikidrama being made of a dispute which should be easily resolvable by growing the hell up and presenting the verifiable mainstream facts in a NPOV way. These facts are without lack of historical consensus:

• Gagarin is acknowledged as first human in space and in orbit; as the FAI decided, it's a trivial technicality he didn't land in the craft.
• Shepard is the first American in space; also first to control his spacecraft and land in it (but no cigar as far as "first in space" goes).

The FAI's pedigree to acquire jurisdiction as the world's authority on spaceflight (strikes me as) a bit dubious, given they were an airsports association; nonetheless, they have become so recognized.

The Ukranian war is tragic, but really has nothing at all to do with this. JustinTime55 (talk) 16:05, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

You're welcome. By this point can that passage be pared down to something like "first to control his spacecraft and land in it" with the Praxis citation? That "land in it" is also a bone of contention between me and User:TompaDompa since for them it's like putting Dyomin's "first grandfather in space" on those articles. If this can be resolved amicably then the RFC would not be needed, saving everyone's time. 193.233.171.17 (talk) 16:28, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

@JustinTime55: I have put a possible last-minute solution involving the paring down of the passage and the addition of footnotes consisting of a near carbon copy from Yuri Gagarin regarding the FAI technicality. In order to help put the drama to rest, we'd be thankful if you can weigh in there, even for once.193.233.171.17 (talk) 13:08, 21 July 2022 (UTC)

Your comment on the edit on 'list of artificial objects leaving the solar system' was 'insects have antennae, radios have antennas' ... you might want to goggle the following phrase "Hackers can turn computer cables into antennae to steal data". A lot of sites might disagree, as well as many an online dictionary ... :) The Yeti (talk) 11:08, 30 July 2022 (UTC)

I moved this thread to Talk:Apollo command and service module to get more eyes on it. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:07, 10 August 2022 (UTC)

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Special sauce similar to thousand island dressing is addressed further along in the article; there is no need for it to be in the lead. You did not add quotation marks to all the 'special sauce' terms in the article. Why not? Absolutely Certainly (talk) 18:08, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

• Good Wikipedia articles are written in WP:summary style, such that the introduction summarizes the main body. So, yes there is need for it to be in the lead. This is so that readers with short attention spans don't necessarily have to read the entire article.
• I don't know. I guess I don't care if the quotes are used or not, but there's not necessarily a requirement for them all to be consistent. That seems like nitpicking to me. JustinTime55 (talk) 21:14, 27 September 2022 (UTC)

  It is either "special" or special. Caring or not guessing. Absolutely Certainly (talk) 02:53, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

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