User talk:Josve05a/Archives/2016/September

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18:04, 12 September 2016 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Press/Blogs
  • Upcoming: Keynote by Lydia Pintscher at DBpedia conference, September 15th, Leipzig.
  • Upcoming: Wikidata workshop for beginners, September 16, Paris
  • Upcoming: Semantic MediaWiki Conference, September 28-30, Frankfurt
  • Upcoming: Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing) & Liam Wyatt (User:Wittylama) speaking about GLAM-Wiki (including Wikidata) in Warsaw, 19 October. Details tbc.
  • Upcoming: Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing) speaking & running workshop about Wikidata at SFK 16 ("Software Freedom Kosova Conference") in Pristina, 21-23 October.
  • Research on WikiProject Knowledge Organization Systems presented at 15th NKOS workshop at TPDL: Classification of Knowledge Organization Systems with Wikidata: Presentation and Paper.
  • Being a Volunteer Developer for Wikimedia projects: An Interview with Tpt
  • Sunday Query: The 200 Oldest Living French Actresses, query tutorial by Harmonia Amanda
  • How to prototype Wikidata entities (in French) by Poulpy

• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • We have new graphic material to present Wikidata. Feel free to use these files in your slides/talks/documents :)
  • #SundayQuery on Twitter: every Sunday, you can ask for help or advice about SPARQL queries, how to build or fix it, some SPARQL-ninjas will be there to answer you!
  • Researcher? You can participate in the WSDM Cup 2017 challenge and improve Wikidata vandalism detection
  • How to build a query by Pigsonthewing
  • Wikipedia gets Map links and Geoshapes service using Wikidata

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Scottish Charity number, Rock Hall of Fame ID, has grammatical mood, Minnesota legislator ID, UGent Memorialis id, enclosure, event distance, Australian Classification, Runeberg book ID, Runeberg author ID, Crossref funder ID, Findsmiley ID, iNaturalist taxon ID, birthday, molecule conformation, repeals, United States Reports ID, CiNetMag person ID, YouTheater ID, elFilm person ID, elFilm film ID, EDb person ID, EDb film ID, SourehCinema person ID, SourehCinema film ID, OFDb ID
  • Query examples:
    • Posthumous marriages (source)
    • Communes of France with more than one railway station (source)
    • Languages and their grammatical cases they have in common (source)
    • Cocktails recipes (source)
    • People who died in the last seven days (source)
    • Places of birth of 20th century saints (source)
  • New templates: {{Denmark properties}}, {{Greece properties}}. Please add labels in your own languages, and consider making a similar template for your country or region.

• Development
  • Lowered relevance threshold for ArticlePlaceholder search results from 3 to 2 sitelinks (T144188)
  • Added 'otk' as an available language for monolingual text values (T137809)
  • Working on making it possible to paste partial URLs into the site selector (T144310)
  • A Grafana board now tracks general usage and error metrics of the Query Service UI
  • Made progress on showing editors on all Wikimedia projects which articles on their project use data from a given Wikidata item. We will also show in the page information (action=info) which items a given article uses. Also worked on showing which projects use a given item in the page information. (T103091)
  • Added meta information to the html header of item pages (T88475)
  • Made progress on making ArticlePlaceholders indexable for search engines (T144590)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 10:17, 13 September 2016 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Discussions
  • We're starting working on lexicographical data! Please read the proposal and give us your feedback :)
  • New request for comments: Merging male and female labels

• Events/Press/Blogs
  • Upcoming: State of the map, September 23 - 25, Brussels
  • Next Wikidata office hour: Tuesday September 27th, from 18:00 to 19:00 (Berlin time, UTC+2), in #wikimedia-office
  • Video of a SPARQL workshop (& materials) organized by Wikimedia Foundation's Discovery and Research teams
  • Slides of Lydia's keynote about Wikidata at the DBpedia conference 2016
  • Slides of Andreas Thalhammer about Unified PageRank for DBpedia and Wikidata
  • #SundayQuery: ask for help on queries every Sunday on Twitter! This week, a tutorial about surnames by Harmonia Amanda, and how to use SPARQL and Python to fix typographical errors by Ash Crow

• Other Noteworthy Stuff

• • The Project Grants program is accepting proposals from September 12 to October 11 to fund new tools, research, offline outreach, online organizing and other experiments that enhance the work of Wikimedia volunteers.
  • The RevisionSlider is now available as a beta feature, try it to have a visual overview of your diffs.
  • You can also activate ORES the review tool to watch damaging edits more easily!
  • There's an infographic on the quality process in Wikidata you can use and edit.
  • You can also use and translate this new datamodel representation.
  • How to fix taxon common names with Pywikibot, tutorial by TweetsFactsAndQueries and Tobias1984.

• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Visual Novel Database ID, territory overlaps, Zaragoza monument ID, Patrimonio Web JCyL ID, uses property, Statoids ID, art director, offers view on, World Bridge Federation ID, Olympic.org ID, Cultural Heritage Armenia ID, Harasire ID, Sporthorse data ID, Allbreedpedigree ID, Webpedigrees ID, Horsetelex ID
  • Query examples:
    • Embassies (source)
    • World map of water towers (source)
    • "Battles of the Middle Ages" without place or date (source)
    • Asteroids named after characters from works by Lewis Caroll (source)
    • Map of Austrian cultural heritage (source)
    • Statues in Paris depicting historical female figures (source)
  • Newest database reports: list of embassies

• Development
  • We're working on entity usage on Wikimedia projects, check our different features
  • The Wikidata team attended and participated to a lot of conference these past days (WikiCon, ViewSource, DPpedia, SoCraTes, Write the doc) that's why we don't have many tasks to share with you this week :)

You can see all open tickets related to Wikidata here.

• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lea Lacroix (WMDE) 16:05, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

22:08, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

Has it ever occured to you to have a low-key discussion rather than invite a load of bloody lemmings along for the ride via a bot? I see you've started the discussion, but you don't seem to want to "discuss" any of the points raised. Why is that? Is it your style to open up an RfC, create carnage, and then bugger off back into the shadows? Cassianto^Talk 18:55, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

I dis it as part of being an OTRS-agent, in response to a ticket. (Cureently night time soon here. next time you want to call editors bloody lemmings, please di it during daytime ;) (t) Josve05a (c) 19:05, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

An unintelligible answer was what I was expecting. I was just curious to know why you started yet another bullshit RfC on an Featured Article on a laborious subject already covered elsewhere. WP:IDONTLIKEIT, I suspect. How many FA's have you written, incidentally? Cassianto^Talk 19:09, 21 September 2016 (UTC)

OTRS agent (verify): Following a ticket inquiry, I started an RfC to get a more clearer consensus by a broader range of users on the 'issue'. Please do refrain from personal attacks (bloody lemmings), and ad hominem (how many ... have you) arguments. (t) Josve05a (c) 08:00, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Josve05a, please could you supply the ticket number? I have commented on the article talk page so please check there. I am unfamiliar with the OTRS system but shouldn't an indication have been given that you were initiating the RfC on behalf of someone else? As this is a very contentious subject with the strong possibility of being raised in yet another ArbCom case, could I also ask if you did any additional checking with other OTRS volunteers before raising the RfC? Thanks. SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:36, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I could do a search, but I didn't do it "on behalf", but following a ticket, sicne I myself found the consensus was unclear, or that not a real "discussion" had been had, only small discussions on multiple times, without a real "closure"/result. Looking at artile history it was clear that opinions differ (since users keep adding it). I don't care one way or another, just wanted clear consensus be archived, and that we then could add it as a FAQ-thingy. (t) Josve05a (c) 08:40, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

@Sagaciousphil: I believe the RfC can be closed per SNOW... (t) Josve05a (c) 08:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Could I suggest that rather than waiting for someone else to close it, as per Ending RfCs, you simply close it by withdrawing it as this would offer a quicker solution? SagaciousPhil - Chat 08:54, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Josve05a. You've put "Consensus at withdrawal seems to be to not include an infobox for various reasons." Just wanted to stress my !vote was simply not to include an infobox that has wrong or disputed facts. Sorry, can't stop now, as am buggering back off into the lemming shadows. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:43, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Am I missing something cultural, or why does people so damn focused about lemmings recently...(t) Josve05a (c) 09:45, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Josve05a, see the FAC where a unanimous consensus was formed. Cassianto^Talk 11:37, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Ah yes, it seems that nothing has changed in the intervening two years and "enough's enough"? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:44, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

You should not be able to override an FAC consensus as that version (with or without an infobox) was the version that passed FAC. FA's, in terms of grammar, sourcing, images, etc.. can and should be improved upon. An infobox is not a widely recognised "improvement", as I'm sure you'll know; it is a stylistic preference for some, but not all, and therefore should never be added to an infoboxless FA. Likewise, taken away. Oh, and yes, enough is enough. I'm growing bored with the constant lemming references now. You are boardering on harassment with the stalking, linking, pings, and "thanks". Enough, is indeed, enough. Cassianto^Talk 12:37, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

I think you may well be right about adding things to FAs, Cass. I guess that must be clearly written down in policy somewhere. But great to see you have lost none of your sense of humour. As you know, I never make jokes, I believe that Wikipedia is deadly serious and only edit to make personal attacks on other (less intelligent) editors. But am now understanding why you probably need a holiday from this place so badly. Adios. Apologies, Josve05a, for the intrusion. Martinevans123 (talk) 12:47, 22 September 2016 (UTC) I pinged you??

You know me well enough to know that I've never much cared much for Wikipedia's policies and edit under my own say-so, and of my own inclination. If someone is being a dickhead, I will tell them, regardless of what some elaborately named do-gooder wrote down 11 years ago and who has not been seen or heard of since. Our policies are outdated bullshit. If you want to get rid of me quicker, Martin, why not hurry up the Burke and Hare FAC? Cassianto^Talk 13:02, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

"How very Burke and Hare you!" As if I'd ever lower myself to edit in article mainspace. But you stil think I want "to get rid of you"?? Sounds like our policies may need a little attention. Without agreed policies we could all just do as we please, couldn't we? Martinevans123 (talk) 13:23, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

Hi Josve05a, I have a few questions. I was surprised to the see the RfC opened (and then closed) so I came here to see whether there was anything I could glean and see you opened it response to an OTRS ticket. Can you supply some more information please. Specifically, can you tell me when the ticket was submitted and whether it specifically asked for an RfC or whether it requested an infobox be added? Also, have you ever seen a ticket before asking for the addition of an infobox to an article, or the opening of an RfC? I was a little surprised because I hadn't noticed you ever editing the article in the past, so at least that's explained. I think this an interesting situation and will amend my comment at ARCA accordingly. Thanks in advance. Victoria (tk) 16:44, 22 September 2016 (UTC)

The RfC doesn't seem to be compatible with OTRS best practices - "Most requests relating to usual editorial matters are referred to normal on-wiki processes" except where issues such as defamation or privacy are a concern, which doesn't appear to be the case here. I'd also suggest you review the instructions for opening RfCs before doing so again, as even if the RfC had run for its full length it would not have been valid. Nikkimaria (talk) 01:35, 23 September 2016 (UTC)

18:07, 26 September 2016 (UTC)

Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.

• Events/Blogs/Press
  • Past: WikiCon 2016
  • Past: OASPA conference (slides)
  • Past: State of the Map
  • Past: National Institute of Health: frontiers in data science lecture series (slides)
  • Upcoming: SMWCon
  • Upcoming: office hour on IRC
  • Blog post about Wikidata and data about Czech trees
• Other Noteworthy Stuff
  • The query examples have been migrated from mediawiki.org to wikidata.org at d:Wikidata:SPARQL examples
  • HPI is doing a linked data engineering course online
  • TXT Werk is doing automatic entity recognition in text with the help of Wikidata. Previously only German was supported. English is now supported as well.
  • Andy has mapped most of the W3C's ontology for vCard to Wikidata properties.
• Did you know?
  • Newest properties: Heritage Lighthouse of Canada ID, Heritage Railway Station of Canada ID, New General Catalogue ID, Vine user ID, data.gouv.fr ID, patient of, Ciné-Ressources person ID, Ciné-Ressources movie ID, UAI code, Medical Dictionary for Regulatory Activities ID, Northern Ireland charity number, charity number (Isle of Man), JewishGen Locality ID, Federal Heritage Buildings ID, USGS earthquake id, league points system, INA video ID, GS1 Manufacturer code, Last.FM music ID, IMIS person ID, innervates, innervated by, Nobel prize ID, Marburger Professorenkatalog ID, TAXREF ID, VKontakte username, Czech National Bibliography book ID, WSJ topic ID, FANTOIR code, OpenCitations bibliographic resource ID
  • Query examples: taxonomy of squirrels (source), good or featured articles about people on Wikipedia but with no picture on Wikidata (source), Nordic Cross flags (source)
• Development
  • mnc (for Manchu) will soon be available as a language code for monolingual text values (phabricator:T137808)
  • Worked on foreign EntityIds in order to be able to use Wikidata's items and properties on Commons in the future (phabricator:T145516, phabricator:T146030, phabricator:T146274)
  • More work on usage tracking UI (phabricator:T145965, phabricator:T143148, phabricator:T145189, phabricator:T144923)
  • RFC discussion about Multi-Content-Revisions - another big blocker for structured data on Commons (phabricator:E273)
  • Ran a bot to mark dates that need a check of their calendar model (phabricator:T105100)
  • Getting unit conversion into the query service soon. We'll start with units for length and then expand based on feedback. (phabricator:T117032)
  • Working on extension to automatically link pages between languages on Wiktionary (phabricator:T145412)
  • Added the value that is responsible for an error in the error message so it can be found and fixed more easily (phabricator:T144303)
  • Working on fix for issue with extremely large or small date values in RDF (phabricator:T146356)
  • Expanding references again in diffs (phabricator:T129836)
  • Unbroke CopyReferences gadget. More work is needed. (phabricator:T142203)
  • Fixed issue with 2 search suggestion boxes showing up instead of 1 (phabricator:T119492)
  • Worked on improving the query service documentation (phabricator:T133052)
• Monthly Tasks
  • Hack on one of these.
  • Help develop the next summary here!
  • Contribute to a Showcase item
  • Help translate or proofread pages in your own language!
  • Help merge identical items across Wikimedia projects.
  • Add labels, in your own language(s), for the new properties listed above.
  • Comment on property proposals: all open proposals - proposals needing attention

Read the full report · Unsubscribe · Lydia Pintscher (WMDE) 21:32, 26 September 2016 (UTC)