This is an archive of past discussions with User:Gorthian. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
XTools Admin Stats, a tool to list admins by administrative actions, has been revamped to support more types of log entries such as AbuseFilter changes. Two additional tools have been integrated into it as well: Steward Stats and Patroller Stats.
Arbitration
In response to the continuing compromise of administrator accounts, the Arbitration Committee passed a motion amending the procedures for return of permissions (diff). In such cases, the committee will review all available information to determine whether the administrator followed "appropriate personal security practices" before restoring permissions; administrators found failing to have adequately done so will not be resysopped automatically. All current administrators have been notified of this change.
Following a formal ratification process, the arbitration policy has been amended (diff). Specifically, the two-thirds majority required to remove or suspend an arbitrator now excludes (1) the arbitrator facing suspension or removal, and (2) any inactive arbitrator who does not respond within 30 days to attempts to solicit their feedback on the resolution through all known methods of communication.
The CSD feature of Twinkle now allows admins to notify page creators of deletion if the page had not been tagged. The default behavior matches that of tagging notifications, and replaces the ability to open the user talk page upon deletion. You can customize which criteria receive notifications in your Twinkle preferences: look for Notify page creator when deleting under these criteria.
Twinkle's d-batch (batch delete) feature now supports deleting subpages (and related redirects and talk pages) of each page. The pages will be listed first but use with caution! The und-batch (batch undelete) option can now also restore talk pages.
Miscellaneous
The previously discussed unblocking of IP addresses indefinitely-blocked before 2009 was approved and has taken place.
How to make a new article for someone named as another person who already has a wikipedia article
Hi! I'm a motorcycle fan from Argentina living in Doha, Qatar.
There's a biker here who went all around the world with this bike and I admire him deeply.
Sadly, when you go to wikipedia, there's a professor there called alike, but nothing on him, so I wanted to create a new article.
I was not allowed because he already exists in the English Wikipedia.
I tried to create it anyway in spanish but it was deleted cause it was English (my bad).
So since then I've been trying to create a disambiguation (here you came into) so anyone who looks for this name can find both of them, but I have no idea how to do it!
Can you please help me!
thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noparo (talk • contribs) 15:37, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
@Noparo: Writing a whole new article is actually pretty advanced stuff for someone new to Wikipedia. The best thing to do would be to spend some time making small edits to already existing articles, learn how the community here works, and gain experience. Your motorcycle rider may or may not be notable enough for an article, also. The best place to get started with editing is at the Teahouse. It’s staffed by experienced and helpful editors. Good luck! — Gorthian (talk) 23:25, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
Latin
I didn't actually enrol for a Latin course (see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation#A question for those who know Latin). Until the early 1960s (I think), O-Level Latin was, quaintly, an entry requirement for Oxbridge; so if you showed any academic ability, you got landed with the subject from the age of about 8 or 10. I dropped it as soon as I could, as hopelessly irrelevant for a scientist.
What I saw was a dab page replaced with an article; I often run across this occurrence, and it’s usually vandalism. They had already been given a level 4 warning this month, so I thought I was being lenient. However, I’m not in great shape this evening, and maybe I overreacted. I can tell I didn’t check out any of the reasoning in the other edits. I kept thinking they were acting on an agenda. My brain is half-awake, and I should stop editing for the day. Please, feel free to revert my reverts if they don’t make sense to you. — Gorthian (talk) 03:57, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
Yeah, that was a level three warning for this.[6][7][8] I'll just revert your talk page message for now and replace it with a different template. Please get some rest, though. Also, make sure to drink water! That's critical for a healthy body. –MJL‐Talk‐☖04:16, 26 June 2019 (UTC)
In a related matter, the account throttle has been restored to six creations per day as the mitigation activity completed.
The scope of CSD criterion G8 has been tightened such that the only redirects that it now applies to are those which target non-existent pages.
The scope of CSD criterion G14 has been expanded slightly to include orphan "Foo (disambiguation)" redirects that target pages that are not disambiguation pages or pages that perform a disambiguation-like function (such as set index articles or lists).
The Wikimedia Foundation's Community health initiative plans to design and build a new user reporting system to make it easier for people experiencing harassment and other forms of abuse to provide accurate information to the appropriate channel for action to be taken. Community feedback is invited.
Miscellaneous
In February 2019, the Wikimedia Foundation (WMF) changed its office actions policy to include temporary and project-specific bans. The WMF exercised this new ability for the first time on the English Wikipedia on 10 June 2019 to temporarily ban and desysop Fram. This action has resulted in significant community discussion, a request for arbitration (permalink), and, either directly or indirectly, the resignations of numerous administrators and functionaries. The WMF Board of Trustees is aware of the situation, and discussions continue on a statement and a way forward. The Arbitration Committee has sent an open letter to the WMF Board.
There appears to have been some confusion surrounding your request at WP:RM/TR. I assume you intended to request Thomas Neville (disambiguation) be moved toThomas Neville per WP:MALPLACED. If so, it appears to be correct now. However, there was a RM discussion started at Talk:Thomas Neville. Assuming it to be a mistake, I closed it. But if for any reason that was not the right thing to do on my part, please feel free to simply revert my edit there. Station1 (talk) 17:26, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
@Station1: The pages are the right way around now, thank you. I didn’t expect a contested technical move, and only now saw that RM. It’s a legitimate question, but not the answer to the malplaced situation. I trust that someone with more knowledge of the Thomas Nevilles of history than I will bring it up again if it’s necessary. — Gorthian (talk) 23:33, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
Dear Gorthian, It's Superbrickbro, thank you so much for letting Vidya Shankar stay on the Vidya disambiguation page.
Because of your kind words, I will hopefully try to create a wiki page for Vidya Shankar.
Thank you very very much. ----Superbrickbro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Superbrickbro (talk • contribs) 01:25, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
Following a research project on masking IP addresses, the Foundation is starting a new project to improve the privacy of IP editors. The result of this project may significantly change administrative and counter-vandalism workflows. The project is in the very early stages of discussions and there is no concrete plan yet. Admins and the broader community are encouraged to leave feedback on the talk page.
Since the introduction of temporary user rights, it is becoming more usual to accord the New Page Reviewer right on a probationary period of 3 to 6 months in the first instance. This avoids rights removal for inactivity at a later stage and enables a review of their work before according the right on a permanent basis.
@Vchimpanzee: No answer yet, but my offline life just got way busier and I haven’t had time to pursue it. I’ll try your suggestion when I have a moment to breathe. Thank you! — Gorthian (talk) 04:19, 14 August 2019 (UTC)
Invitation to project revival
Dear user,
I, with Willbb234, are a attempting to revive the Wikiproject Requested Articles, of which you are a member. If you wish to be a part of our effort, feel free to add your signature in it's talk page. Best regards, Enivak(speak)16:24, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.
A global request for comment is in progress regarding whether a user group should be created that could modify edit filters across all public Wikimedia wikis.
Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.
Technical news
As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.
The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.
Google Code-In 2019 is coming - please mentor some documentation tasks!
Hello,
Google Code-In, Google-organized contest in which the Wikimedia Foundation participates, starts in a few weeks. This contest is about taking high school students into the world of opensource. I'm sending you this message because you recently edited a documentation page at the English Wikipedia.
I would like to ask you to take part in Google Code-In as a mentor. That would mean to prepare at least one task (it can be documentation related, or something else - the other categories are Code, Design, Quality Assurance and Outreach) for the participants, and help the student to complete it. Please sign up at the contest page and send us your Google account address to [email protected], so we can invite you in!
From my own experience, Google Code-In can be fun, you can make several new friends, attract new people to your wiki and make them part of your community.
An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
A request for comment asks whether partial blocks should be enabled on the English Wikipedia. If enabled, this functionality would allow administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces, rather than the entire site.
A proposal asks whether admins who don't use their tools for a significant period of time (e.g. five years) should have the toolset procedurally removed.
The fourth case on Palestine-Israel articles was closed. The case consolidated all previous remedies under one heading, which should make them easier to understand, apply, and enforce. In particular, the distinction between "primary articles" and "related content" has been clarified, with the former being the entire set of articles whose topic relates to the Arab-Israeli conflict, broadly interpreted rather than reasonably construed.
Following a request for comment, partial blocks are now enabled on the English Wikipedia. This functionality allows administrators to block users from editing specific pages or namespaces rather than the entire site. A draft policy is being workshopped at Wikipedia:Partial blocks.
The request for comment seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure closed with wide-spread support for an alternative desysoping procedure based on community input. No proposed process received consensus.
Technical news
Twinkle now supports partial blocking. There is a small checkbox that toggles the "partial" status for both blocks and templating. There is currently one template: {{uw-pblock}}.
When trying to move a page, if the target title already exists then a warning message is shown. The warning message will now include a link to the target title. [9]
Arbitration
Following a recent arbitration case, the Arbitration Committee reminded administrators that checkuser and oversight blocks must not be reversed or modified without prior consultation with the checkuser or oversighter who placed the block, the respective functionary team, or the Arbitration Committee.
Following an RfC, the blocking policy was changed to state that sysops must not undo or alter CheckUser or Oversight blocks, rather than should not.
A request for comment confirmed that sandboxes of established but inactive editors may not be blanked due solely to inactivity.
Technical news
Following a discussion, Twinkle's default CSD behavior will soon change, most likely this week. After the change, Twinkle will default to "tagging mode" if there is no CSD tag present, and default to "deletion mode" if there is a CSD tag present. You will be able to always default to "deletion mode" (the current behavior) using your Twinkle preferences.
