User talk:GeneralizationsAreBad/Archive 11

So this entire SPI chain is filed under the name of an account who was determined to be  Unrelated. Is there any way we can get a closer examination of whether this should be merged into Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/OfficialPankajPatidar/Archive? At the very least I figure it would be best to move the case to the oldest confirmed sock from the case instead of leaving it under the name of an unrelated account. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 18:04, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Also, I sent you an unrelated email. Ks0stm ^{(T•C•G•E)} 18:18, 11 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ks0stm: Yep, email received and acknowledged - thanks

The Ashishchopra778 case is an annoying example of me filing a case without seeing a connection to OPP. Had I seen a link to that case, I could have simply filed under it, and we likely wouldn't have to deal with any of this. The tagging for this case is also wonky, since we found many accounts to be confirmed to OPP, as well as another group that was dual-tagged as socks of the oldest account in that group (Atifsilal) - except that Atifsilal is older than OPP. I could also support moving the case to Atifsilal. Also pinging Bbb23. Thanks, GAB^gab 01:44, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no clean way to resolve this issue. I've complained for a long time that the OPP case is a mess. You have behavioral and technical issues. The behavioral issues are, of course, subjective, whereas the technical are not. Checks are requested, and I (or another CU) provides technical findings. Yet the differences in the technical findings are "overlooked" in favor of behavioral ones, causing a fair amount of dissonance. What is the next CU supposed to do? Find that accounts that edit from different countries are the same? At the end of the day, it's not clear whether we have one or more masters (I'm convinced there is more than one, but I'm not sure how many). That said, the overriding goal is to prevent socking/disruption. As long as we continue to do that, the project is well-served even if the issue of which account belongs to whom is never answered. Bottom line: do whatever you think best; I have no recommendation.--Bbb23 (talk) 02:48, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, is the statement "generalizations are bad" a generalization, and therefore bad?

Also, April 1st is not far away. Have you considered staging a gentlemanly dispute with General Ization? Anything that ends up with a thread on a dramaboard titled "General Ization vs GeneralizationsAreBad" would be winsome. Manul ~ talk 20:14, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Manul: Yup, it's deliberately self-referential. I try not to start fights, but I'm willing to make an exception every now and then . Cheers, GAB^gab 20:17, 12 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Winsome is a wonderful word Manul. I have not been lucky enough to use it in conversation. I am so glad that you did. G v G - could we make that a pay-per-view event - heehee. MarnetteD|Talk 16:15, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello GAB. Is there an LTA page for Nsmutte? I couldn't find one when the two that I reported showed up last night. That is one reason that I didn't go to AIV. Fortunately, our diligent IP did and that brought about their blocks. Also, I thought the "don't tag" applied to after the blocks not before. My apologies for tagging those two. Thanks for your time and cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 16:11, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MarnetteD: Not to my knowledge, but it might just be worth writing one. No worries about the tags. Best, GAB^gab 16:47, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the update. MarnetteD|Talk 17:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again GAB. I don't know if you've seen that the Nsmutte SPI page has become - well let's say overloaded :-) I know that part of the problem is that the socks are coming fast and furious. Some reports are closed, some are awaiting CU results and new ones are being added. If you have the time and the inclination you might give it the once over. Now I know you are busy with many things around if so if you can't get to this no worries. Best regards. MarnetteD|Talk 02:22, 23 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like it's been taken care of. GAB^gab 00:26, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for checking :-) MarnetteD|Talk 00:34, 24 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Yes, the word "brutal" is probably always POV..... but, for example, Stalin's 1907 Tiflis bank robbery resulted in 40 "innocent" (POV?) deaths and 50 injured people.... surely this shows a 'casual' disregard for human life and was a 'brutal' bank robbery in 99.9% of people's points of view? I can't imagine Stalin agonizing over the loss of life, but maybe he did?!?!?!

Stalin's final death count by 1953 and the manner of many of his killings (I could say 'murders') similarly entitles most civilisied people to describe him as brutal.

Disturbingly in Google you get more results for "Stalin was nice" than for either "Stalin was brutal" or for "Stalin was evil".... not very scientific as a piece of research I know, but still worrying. http://www.hindustantimes.com/world/62-russians-agree-stalin-was-brutal-but-57-say-he-was-wise/story-om0DcEJ0s2pxhaPh78DuCL.html offers more comfort.

Davidbrookesland (talk) 06:03, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, I'm no fan of Stalin, either, and these sorts of articles always pose a tricky line to walk. Nevertheless, I tend to avoid using words like "brutal" in articles. GAB^gab 14:43, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for reviewing Quwwah bonaparte, GeneralizationsAreBad.

Unfortunately Adam9007 has just gone over this page again and unreviewed it. Their note is:

Hasty CSD tagging.

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Adam9007 (talk) 00:49, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

If you're around, please hop in IRC. That SPI just got way more complicated. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 20:38, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@BU Rob13: Sorry for the delay, I'm working on configuring IRC. I've never really used it, so please bear with me... in the meanwhile, email works. Thanks! GAB^gab 22:04, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Whoops, I thought you already went on IRC. No worries. I've decided to more-or-less ignore what I found. I found potential cross-over with an existing CheckUser blocked editor, but it's not worth the effort to try to connect across sock rings in my opinion. ~ Rob₁₃^Talk 23:40, 7 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I made some comments at [[1]]. I then realized that this will mean reopening the case. I have carefully avoided learning anything at WP that seems like a complicated or formal procedure, so I ask you to please make the necessary adjustments. See also my comments at User talk:Arunkapadia and on my own talk page. DGG ( talk ) 18:18, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DGG: The comments were helpful, so I don't think reverting will be necessary here. I agree with you that we should clean up as much of this messy case as possible. GAB^gab 22:34, 8 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for removing the G8 from Mukti Mohan. Looks like User:Mukti321 got upset at the csd on his autobiography at Mukti.Subedi so removed the CSD, adjusted the CSD notice on his talk page and tagged Mukti Mohan as a decoy. Sneaky little vandal. Cabayi (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Masterkarthikyadav
• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Seule gaz

It's clear that you believe there is persuasive evidence to block the accounts in these two cases. If you were an administrator, you could do so either outside or as part of the SPI. So, unless you have a good reason not to, you should change the statuses to admin and request blocks.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:32, 11 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! How do you get Twinkle to automatically generate reports to WP:UAA?... Thanks in advance. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:51, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@IJBall: Just go to the Twinkle header, click "ARV," then select "UAA" from the "Select report type" box at the top. Thanks, GAB^gab 03:35, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. I've been totally missing that up until now (I thought "ARV" was for WP:AIV reporting only!)... Thanks for this! --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:37, 18 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry GAB: I was very confused by an experienced user tagging the AFD page for deletion, as I thought someone misunderstood where to place the CSD tag and how to use AFD. I've rolled back my edits now I've checked the SPI and understand what's going on. Thanks. Triptothecottage (talk) 04:35, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Triptothecottage: No problem; this particular LTA indeed has some very unusual behavioral patterns, but we're generally able to spot him these days GAB^gab 04:37, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@GeneralizationsAreBad: That is a phenomenally large sock drawer alright. Triptothecottage (talk) 10:41, 25 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/SPEEDY85#Suspected_sockpuppets

I do not understand. Why? I'm bored now. Do you want to remove me? Please vote for delete. I don't care.SPEEDY85 (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry for a dumb question - I'm completely new to SPI but came across Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Si Thu Moe Min via a CSD tag. I've blocked the sock as an obvious duck and updated the case page but I'm not sure - should I mark the case closed, or should I leave that to the clerks? Thanks. GoldenRing (talk) 15:18, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not a dumb question. Please close. Thanks for helping out!--Bbb23 (talk) 15:43, 13 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello GAB, this is a question for a clerk. At the head of my talk page there is a report about a set of IPs who share a common geolocation but don't connect to any registered account. If the user persists, we could eventually have quite a collection of IPs, with scattered numerical values (not obviously in any one /16 range). In your opinion is it a good use of space at SPI to file a report there just for record-keeping? No checkuser would be needed, and it is likely that clerks wouldn't have to do much behavioral analysis, because one or more admins are already watching the situation. The alternative to an SPI is that one of us could make a subpage in our user space to list the IPs. And we could make up a Category:Suspected sockpuppets of XXX where XXX is not named in an actual case. Thanks for any opinion. EdJohnston (talk) 16:49, 15 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: Good question. I don't see anything wrong with either filing the case (under the oldest IP used) or just documenting this in userspace. However, I think that IP-tagging (for the category) is somewhat frowned upon. Definitely, SPI has the advantage of being more widely accessible. Thanks, GAB^gab 16:50, 16 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rnsharma1993 (talk • contribs) 15:06, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Rnsharma1993: Please stop removing the tag from Daily Forex Diary - as the creator of this page, you are not supposed to do this. However, if you like, you can contest deletion by clicking on the blue button reading, "Contest this speedy deletion." Thanks, GAB^gab 15:11, 22 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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one-state solution seems to be a new sock for Motivação—this user's newest edit is the most recent post at Talk:China, and this is only the third page User:one-state solution has edited from this incarnation. There is no overlap with the articles edited by the first twenty or so incarnations, but the type of edits is similar and the user name is a good match (type of phrase). — Neonorange (talk) 13:36, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This the most recent edit. This edit made a unnecessary change to phrasing that used the abbreviation U.S., right in this editor's wheelhouse. Neonorange (talk) 15:06, 22 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]