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Article Sheikh Asif

Hello GeneralNotability i want to recreate Article about ( Sheikh Asif) can i recreate it? with your permission.User:HASIM66 (talk)

HASIM66, I can't stop you, but the past versions of the article were pure promotion and I doubt a case can be made for his notability. I also remind you that if you're being paid for your edits, you are required to disclose that. GeneralNotability (talk) 13:53, 24 November 2021 (UTC)
GeneralNotabilityI am not paid for any type of article or any type of edit on wikipedia. Thank you User:HASIM66 (talk)

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Sapedder (talk) 15:25, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Sapedder, acknowledged, I'll have a look tomorrow. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:02, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Reply from Applehornet 🍏

Hi GeneralNotability,

I logged in for the first time in a couple of months and found your message. I’m not sure what that’s about as I made a few small edits and then noticed that a previous user experienced some bullying on this site, which I brought to the attention of a few administrators. This was not, as suggested, a coordination but a coincidence. I was about to make an edit to a page when I noticed the harassment of the previous editor by another. I reported it, that’s all. I hope this satisfies your query.

Best, Applehornet — Preceding unsigned comment added by Applehornet (talkcontribs) 13:59, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 November 2021

Will they deny non-fungible tokens next?
15th annual event closes with hundreds of articles improved
1,767 nominations in November... AN/Is... DRVs... The largest AfD in history, possibly ever!
Wikipedia democratizes knowledge, but is it in Jeopardy?
We should have at least one of these every year!
Editors propose modifications to Wikipedia's admin-making process.
How MediaWiki works with media files.
From the silver screen to your computer screen
A worthy pilot but the photo didn't match the article!
Sharing the wealth of information!
Conjuring up the jesters again!
And other recent research publications
Answers to last month's puzzle included.

One or Two Questions ?

Is the question that I asked of the candidates for ArbCom considered to be one question or two questions? So, may I ask another non-follow-up question? Robert McClenon (talk) 03:55, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Robert McClenon, I would personally consider that two questions, though if it helps, you are permitted to ask a reasonable number of direct follow-up questions after the candidate's answer. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:32, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
I thought it would be two questions, and was ready for that, but thought I would ask, because if I had the remaining privilege, I might as well use it. Thanks. Robert McClenon (talk) 02:44, 30 November 2021 (UTC)

21:13, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021

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SPI Helper malfunctioning

Hi GeneralNotability, I noticed that, when SPI helper has no tag option selected, it decides to post on their talk page. Could this please be returned to the old behaviour of...doing nothing? --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:05, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

I'm also not entirely keen of the talk page notices and don't recall those being around in this form previously? --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:07, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
(talk page stalker) @TheSandDoctor: Hmm, not sure these are malfunctions. Tagging user pages is different from leaving talk page notices—if you intend not to leave talk page notices, there is a separate checkbox for block notices you can deselect. On the second question, I think you’re referring to the new {{subst:uw-sockblock}} form versus the old {{subst:SockBlock}}. Personally, I actually prefer the new uw-sockblock template because the old template is actually not visible on the mobile web interface because it uses a {{tmbox}}. Mz7 (talk) 05:45, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
@Mz7: Oh! I figured it had changed and didn't realize the technical reason behind the latter. I retract that part but leaving "none" as the tag should really leave none as the tag and not a generic tag of "An editor has expressed a concern that this account may be a sockpuppet". --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:47, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
Ah, I see. Looking through your deletion log, there were a number of cases where the script used that “An editor has expressed a concern…” language on user pages (that we should honestly deprecate from the sockpuppet template at this point). Mz7 (talk) 05:54, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
@Mz7: They were added after I selected "none" as the tag type. --TheSandDoctor Talk 05:56, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
TheSandDoctor, Mz7, ugh, talk page notices, by far the the most error-prone part of spihelper. The expected behavior is that anyone blocked using spihelper will have a sockmasterblock or sockblock template dropped on their talk page if "Add talk page notice when blocking socks" is checked (it is by default). It should never apply the "this editor has expressed a concern..." version of the sockpuppet tag (I, too, do not care for that one bit) and I've never seen it do that...were you doing something unusual when this happened? GeneralNotability (talk) 01:38, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
No, not that I can recall. I know another clerk complained of the same glitch when called out over tagging on a no-tag case…I think Spicy? TheSandDoctor (mobile) (talk) 01:56, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
One scenario where I've seen it happen is when tagging someone as both a master and a sock (i.e. by using the altmaster parameter) – it will insert the correct master template, and the "expressed a concern" one below. Also, +1 for deprecation ...and {{ipsock}} too, while we're at it. --Blablubbs (talk) 13:48, 1 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators' newsletter – December 2021

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2021).

Administrator changes

removed A TrainBerean HunterEpbr123GermanJoeSanchomMysid

Technical news

  • Unregistered editors using the mobile website are now able to receive notices to indicate they have talk page messages. The notice looks similar to what is already present on desktop, and will be displayed on when viewing any page except mainspace and when editing any page. (T284642)
  • The limit on the number of emails a user can send per day has been made global instead of per-wiki to help prevent abuse. (T293866)

Arbitration



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Messy conduct at the SPI

A barnstar for you!

The Technical Barnstar
Not sure where we'd be without your work on SPI helper. Doing it all manually would probably dissuade a lot of people... TheSandDoctor Talk 17:53, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you TheSandDoctor :) GeneralNotability (talk) 03:18, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

Heres The Dealio

Gen, I think I'd be right in assuming that HTD has highly dynamic IPs, given the inability of CheckUser to pin down sleepers in the past and their ability to rapidly create socks. Further on from my suggestion, is there really no feasible range block? Sdrqaz (talk) 22:32, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Sdrqaz, I did see your suggestion, but I do not see a practical rangeblock available at this time. GeneralNotability (talk) 03:21, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

21:57, 6 December 2021 (UTC)

Administrators will no longer be autopatrolled

A recently closed Request for Comment (RFC) reached consensus to remove Autopatrolled from the administrator user group. You may, similarly as with Edit Filter Manager, choose to self-assign this permission to yourself. This will be implemented the week of December 13th, but if you wish to self-assign you may do so now. To find out when the change has gone live or if you have any questions please visit the Administrator's Noticeboard. 20:06, 7 December 2021 (UTC)

Bots Newsletter, December 2021

Bots Newsletter, December 2021
BRFA activity by month

Welcome to the eighth issue of the English Wikipedia's Bots Newsletter, your source for all things bot. Maintainers disappeared to parts unknown... bots awakening from the slumber of æons... hundreds of thousands of short descriptions... these stories, and more, are brought to you by Wikipedia's most distinguished newsletter about bots.

Our last issue was in August 2019, so there's quite a bit of catching up to do. Due to the vast quantity of things that have happened, the next few issues will only cover a few months at a time. This month, we'll go from September 2019 through the end of the year. I won't bore you with further introductions — instead, I'll bore you with a newsletter about bots.

Overall

  • Between September and December 2019, there were 33 BRFAs. Of these, Green checkmarkY 25 were approved, and 8 were unsuccessful (Dark red X symbolN2 3 denied, Blue question mark? 3 withdrawn, and Expired 2 expired).

September 2019

Look! It's moving. It's alive. It's alive... It's alive, it's moving, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, it's alive, IT'S ALIVE!
  • Green checkmarkY Monkbot 16, DannyS712 bot 60, Ahechtbot 6, PearBOT 3, Qbugbot 3 · Dark red X symbolN2 DannyS712 bot 5, PkbwcgsBot 24 · Blue question mark? DannyS712 bot 61, TheSandBot 4
  • TParis goes away, UTRSBot goes kaput: Beeblebrox noted that the bot for maintaining on-wiki records of UTRS appeals stopped working a while ago. TParis, the semi-retired user who had previously run it, said they were "unlikely to return to actively editing Wikipedia", and the bot had been vanquished by trolls submitting bogus UTRS requests on behalf of real blocked users. While OAuth was a potential fix, neither maintainer had time to implement it. TParis offered to access to the UTRS WMFLabs account to any admin identified with the WMF: "I miss you guys a whole lot [...] but I've also moved on with my life. Good luck, let me know how I can help". Ultimately, SQL ended up in charge. Some progress was made, and the bot continued to work another couple months — but as of press time, UTRSBot has not edited since November 2019.
  • Article-measuring contest resumed: The list of Wikipedians by article count, which had lain dead for several years, was triumphantly resurrected by GreenC following a bot request.

October 2019

November 2019

Now you're thinking with portals.

December 2019

In the next issue of Bots Newsletter:
What's next for our intrepid band of coders, maintainers and approvers?

  • What happens when two bots want to clerk the same page?
  • What happens when an adminbot goes hog wild?
  • Will reFill ever get fixed?
  • What's up with ListeriaBot, anyway?
  • Python 3.4 deprecation? In my PyWikiBot? (It's more likely than you think!)

These questions will be answered — and new questions raised — by the January 2022 Bots Newsletter. Tune in, or miss out!

Signing off... jp×g 04:29, 10 December 2021 (UTC)


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22:26, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

InvestorGoat improvement

Hey! Can you change Line 7 of InvestorGoat from if (mw.config.get('wgPageName').startsWith('Special:CheckUser')) { to if (mw.config.get('wgCanonicalSpecialPageName').startsWith('Special:CheckUser')) {, so that it becomes compatible with other wikis? Thanks! —Thanks for the fish! talkcontribs 18:05, 18 December 2021 (UTC)

Tks4Fish, done, thanks! GeneralNotability (talk) GeneralNotability (talk) 17:41, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

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Sorry about the delay InvalidOS, I'll try to hit this tomorrow. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

Bianbum and Spam: Some Accounts and Sites to Watch

I recommend checking out the presto.news, evidence-based.review, uopeople.review reports on COIBot. There are several more accounts which are likely the same person. The former two sites now redirect to the latter. The EBR site shared a Google Analytics tracking id with giuseppemacario.men at one point. You might also want to add the site in this diff. Finally, two more to be aware of are boyfriendhusband.men and boyfriendhusband.app. The first was added as a mirror wiki. Later, it briefly redirected to the latter. Now, they both redirect to an article on giuseppemacario.men.

Also, I don't know how to suggest these Lerdall edits on Commons for removal, or if that would even be appropriate. I know one of them has unfortunately been cited in scholarly literature a few times. SimoneBilesStan (talk) 02:46, 17 December 2021 (UTC)

Thanks SimoneBilesStan. Looks like most of the recently-spammed sites have been blacklisted, and the others haven't been spammed for a while. No idea what to do about Commons, they're rather...loose...about their inclusion criteria. GeneralNotability (talk) 01:12, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

22:04, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Tauqir Sharif's article, COI, possibly more paid editing.

I've been trying to scrub the Tauqir Sharif article since the primary editor AmirahBreen was banned for paid editing. However, now I see another editor is overseeing the article and making corrections similar to Amirah's. The editor had not been active for a few months until the recent ban, and seems to be SPA'ing that article. Furthermore, the editor is adding pictures that were newly uploaded by a username representing the subject. Was wondering what can be done about this? Should it go to COI/N? AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 22:37, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

I also need to ask whether the Upwork paid editing per the ticket request was related to that article and if so, should the Connected Contributor tag be placed on the article talk page? If that's none of our business then let me know. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 22:45, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
AngusWOOF, pretty sure I shouldn't discuss specifics of the ticket, I wouldn't worry about the connected contributor tag, but you can assume anything thy wrote that seems vaguely UPE-like probably is. As for the new editor...have a look at my block log. I've ECP'd the article for a while, too. GeneralNotability (talk) 00:15, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for looking over that article. I mainly wanted to get the references cleaned up as the subject appears to be notable, but I didn't get to get too involved in editing the biography as the subject is quite controversial. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 01:12, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

It looks like some IPs are getting upset about my grouping the citizenship section and HTS capture section under his Syria work. Could you see if it makes sense to retain this section and whether the IPs might be related to the SPA group? AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 08:19, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

AngusWOOF, I will not be getting involved in the content of the article (in order to remain un-INVOLVED). As for the IP...do you even have to ask? Obviously I can't comment from a CU perspective, but based on edit summary style and their area of interest, no doubt that this is them. GeneralNotability (talk) 20:40, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks again. I will try to pass it to GOCE and see if another neutral editor can scrub it, and otherwise wait until March or if other WP's with editors can look at it. AngusW🐶🐶F (barksniff) 21:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

Scripts++ Newsletter – Issue 22

Help request for Soheil Beiraghi article

Hi. Many weeks has passed since Draft:Soheil Beiraghi's article has created, but no one reviewed it yet. Could you do me a favor and take a look at it, or help me to make verification process faster? Thank you. Kabootaremesi (talk) 08:40, 23 December 2021 (UTC)

Kabootaremes, I do not do page reviews. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:08, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Error with InvestorGoat

Hi,

I've noticed that in the last week or so the InvestorGoat tool has stopped highlighting CU logs outside the CU interface. Furthermore at around that time the UA matching has stopped working (I can't click on the UAs in grey in the CU tool). The error I get from the console is as follows:

Uncaught (in promise) ReferenceError: UAParser is not defined

InvestorGoatPrepUAs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CheckUser line 1 > injectedScript:34
jQuery 2
InvestorGoatPrepUAs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CheckUser line 1 > injectedScript:21
<anonymous> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:CheckUser line 1 > injectedScript:9

Special:CheckUser line 1 > injectedScript:34:22 Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 11:53, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Dreamy Jazz, thanks for the heads-up. I think I've fixed both - the former was because I was referring to wgCanonicalSpecialPageName on non-special pages (that one lets people on other wikis use the script on their equivalent of Special:CheckUser) and the latter was a boneheaded mistake on my part when adding some new features. GeneralNotability (talk) 14:12, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Both seem to be fixed for me. Thanks. Dreamy Jazz talk to me | my contributions 14:14, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Greetings. You recently blocked this editor for UPE. They still have a bunch of unreviewed articles sitting out there. Should all of them be segregated due to UPE, or do you have a list that you could share from their UpWork account? Thanks. Onel5969 TT me 16:35, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Onel5969, I don't have a list, and tbh even if I did I probably couldn't share it. Anything they've made that is likely to be a UPE target (companies, living people, orgs) and looks even a little suspicious is probably UPE. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:27, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, I'll take a look at their remaining articles. Onel5969 TT me 22:42, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

thanks

OMG thank you. I was trying to decide whether I was too involved to just p-block them from editing just the article itself. —valereee (talk) 19:47, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

valereee, happy to be of service. I would have considered a pblock if they had shown the slightest inclination to be here for anything OTHER than AJDaGuru. GeneralNotability (talk) 21:43, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
I've been trying to be kind, but I'm just getting to the end of my rope on it. —valereee (talk) 21:57, 24 December 2021 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Happy Holidays
Happy holidays GN, and happy new year! DirkJandeGeer (щи) 23:56, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
Thank you DirkJandeGeer, and a happy holidays to you and yours too! GeneralNotability (talk) 19:46, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Merry Christmas!

Season's greetings and Merry Christmas to you and your family. Have a wonderful holiday season. Cheers! RV (talk) 03:47, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you RAJIVVASUDEV, to you and yours too! GeneralNotability (talk) 19:47, 25 December 2021 (UTC)

Greetings

Merry Christmas!

The Signpost: 28 December 2021

And wishing our readers a healthy, fortunate and bountiful 2022.
Wrapping up 2021 with a pair of auctions, activity surrounding administrators, and an audit.
Wikipedia and the Oxford Dictionary of Music have different opinions.
Even for Wikipedia critics in nappies!
And other new research results.
Elections certified, bans unlifted, mailing lists restricted, but no new cases.
Commemorating a milestone: word count comparisons with other Wikipedias.
More hats than a rodeo: the best, worst, and gnarliest AfDs of 2021.
Some of 2021's most dramatic moments through Wikicommons images.
We'll always remember the Greek alphabet!
Answers to last month's puzzle included.
Helpful how-to for the prospective buyer. Why settle for a measly single edit, when you can buy the whole thing?

Did you forget to block?

In Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Alexandra Daddario Fan, AVeganKid is  Confirmed and you tagged, but you did not block the account, it remains unblocked. Pikavoom Talk 10:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

Pikavoom, thank you, I did forget to block. Done. GeneralNotability (talk) 16:11, 30 December 2021 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021

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Happy new year

Have a happy New Year filled with light and magic!

Hi GeneralNotability/Archives/2021, Best wishes that the new year brings peace, prosperity, health and happiness.
Thank you for everything you do for the encyclopedia and this community.


Image: New Year's Eve Foxfires at the Changing Tree, Oji, Utagawa Hiroshige, woodcut, 1857

Netherzone (talk) 01:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Netherzone (talk) 01:00, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

Thank you Netherzone, and the same to you and yours! GeneralNotability (talk) 01:02, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
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