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@Cplakidas for some reason I can’t reply on the DYK page. Anyway, you are absolutely right if the 5x means just the word count, but since I have taken the article from a start to B, improving the rough translation, adding content and references, and reorganising the whole article. I thought that is a 5x. Sorry for that
I wonder if I can extend your generosity and ask you if the article is appropriate to be nominated for a GA? I put if for peer review and got one comment that helped me improving the WP. FuzzyMagma (talk) 18:23, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
I know the feeling, sorry to have to reject this after the work you put in. Actually I was going to suggest that a GA run might be a good idea. It certainly appears comprehensive enough and, as I said in the DYK review, it is well written and referenced. Constantine ✍ 18:31, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
@Cplakidas a question just came to my mind, how is the 5x is measured? The way I understand it now, that if I started editing an existing article, I need to be adding 5x the existing text, which will make me my percentage equivalent to 83% (5/6 of the article) in the "added text per user percentage" when looking to an article statistics. I am asking because I have improved this article and want to check if my work is eligible? FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
5x means that the end result must be at least five times what it was before. I.e., if it was 1000 characters of prose, it needs to be at least 5000 after the expansion to be eligible. This applies strictly to prose, not overall article size (which includes references, images, lists, etc). The easiest way to check is the WP:DYKCHECK tool. Constantine ✍ 16:04, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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@SusunW "that Slovak physician Eva Siracká founded the League Against Cancer in 1990 and vowed to remain its president as long as Britain's Elizabeth II, her contemporary, reigned?"
Just click the link above, "Your nomination's entry" and then when you land there, the button at the top right that says edit. SusunW (talk) 16:32, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
On 17 February 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Eva Siracká, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Eva Siracká remained the president of the League Against Cancer, citing the reign of Elizabeth II as the reason? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Eva Siracká. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Eva Siracká), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Thank you for being so understanding about your DYK nomination (Child abuse in association football). We all make mistakes, and there is nothing as encouraging as somebody willing to learn from the experience and move on to better things. -- RoySmith(talk)21:50, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
On 15 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article El-Tigani el-Mahi, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that El-Tigani el-Mahi pioneered studies on magic and zār and their relationship to mental health? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/El-Tigani el-Mahi. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, El-Tigani el-Mahi), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
On 22 June 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Khalwa (school), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Khalwa(pupils pictured) is an educational institute that tackles illiteracy in Sudan and neighbouring countries? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Khalwa (school). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Khalwa (school)), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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The sourced you cited shows "Sources: The Library of Congress Country Studies; CIA World Factbook" which is public domain. So I used a Google search to find the original document from which it was copied! All the "Country Studies" documents are public domain, as they were produced by the US Government. — Diannaa (talk) 21:14, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
August 2023 Good Article Nominations backlog drive
Hey, I deleted the page 2023 Foro Baranga clashes from the Sudan conflict campaignbox because there was no sources denoting a battle between RSF-SAF occurred in the city. Instead, it appears it was just Masalit-Arab ethnic clashes prior to the conflict's start, and that it died down whenever RSF took control of the city on the 23rd. I noticed you added it back to the campaignbox, and I wanted to let you know why I removed it. Is there any particular reason you added it back? Jebiguess (talk) 22:54, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
Hello my friend, just saw your article on Mazin Hamid. He very much deserves to be featured internationally, and I hope he will be able to continue his great work. Thanks as always and I will look for some more information and sources to complement your article. Cheers, Munfarid1 (talk) 11:11, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
many thanks. I hope Mazin is safe to be honest. While writing that article I did not find any update about him. Thanks for the external links, especially Alduroob. Take care FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:39, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
If you find any reliable source talking about Al duroob, please add this important work by Mazin Hamid to the article. Cheers, Munfarid1 (talk) 22:34, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article BlueforSudan you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Frzzl -- Frzzl (talk) 14:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
@Frzzl thank for the review and sad for the quick fail, if I can address one point about POV comment, if you look to the refs, these points are from there. One of your comments is about bogus accounts exploited the #BlueForSudan movement by making fake claims about sending aid to Sudan in exchange for click. the sentence started with according to BBC and CNN reports which I do not think you checked to see if that was "my POV" or theirs .. It is not my connection to the event or neither me being from there that can cloud how I write. FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:09, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Hi - can I point out that if this isn't your opinion as an editor, then you need to make it clear that you're quoting the source. This wasn't formatted as a quote, and therefore came off as a bias. (It's also a copyright infringement not to show that it's a quote). I'm going to respond to your further comments here as well:
The fact that it is a paraphrase does not make it immune to an external POV - any tone thereof would be expressed in the words chosen. This paraphrase does not seem very neutral to me.
I apologise if we have differing viewpoints about the final quote - imo a "neutral" representation thereof could be "Several public figures, including p1, p2, and p3, have encouraged the movement/protests, calling for peace/justice/…"
If you feel that my decision is unjust, by all means feel free to renominate it and receive a second review by a different editor. However, I can assure you that I conducted the review with all due thoroughness, and made sure to get second opinions from other editors to assist me, so it's not fair to call it "rushed".
OK - I'm not going to continue to quarrel over the last point; if you are 'quoting a biased source you need to make it clear that it is a quote, and not prose. To a hyperbolic end, I cannot write "France is a mess of a country" in the article on France citing a right-wing British newspaper without making it clear that this is a quote.
The article met the quickfail criteria; I quickfailed it; the quickfail was checked and found to be justified. I'm not going to re-review it because imho, it is not GA. To summarise what I've said into one point for the renomination, the article requires a comprehensive copyedit. Pretty much all of it. This is necessary for the following reasons: to improve the quality of prose to meet GA MOS requirements; to make it clear when you are quoting politically biased sources; and most importantly, to remove the biased POV present in much of the article, which while you may vehemently disagree, is, according to consensus, very much present.
Difference in opinion is granted, but not applicable to such a major extent as herein. I'd recommend asking the Guild of Copyeditors for the rewriting.
@Frzzl It’s news to me that CNN and BBC are now considered bias and I need to quote 🤷♂️ .. don’t think I will ever do that. Your argument doesn’t make any sense! See the examples on the policy I cited at least
I will renominate it again and make sure to tag you when it pass
your comment on The Sudanese government responded to the protests with more violence and repression please see the source it is a paraphrase not my opinion FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
@Frzzlsome of the high-profile individuals who have been instrumental in bringing attention to the crisis not even sure how this is a POV also see how it was phrased in the source.
I really think you rushed to judge my work based on how I am and not neutrally, and I was not given the benefit of being impartial. I have written other articles about the Sudanese revolution that survived the GA process and know a thing or two about being impartial although I am open to learn. Hope you can revisit your quick fail FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:17, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Incorrect categories
Sorry, but neither electron diffraction nor electron scattering are subcategories of electron microscopy. Both are far wider in scope, so I reverted your additions. CBED, SAED
D, PED are of course. Ldm1954 (talk) 16:46, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
you can remove the category and leave the template which helps organising the topic. As I said in your talk, EBSD for example is based on diffraction where the Electron microscopy is based on electron scattering FuzzyMagma (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
My apologies about repeating, but large parts of both ED and ES do not involve any microscopes. While there is overlap, LEED and Compton scattering as two examples are fundamentally different Ldm1954 (talk) 16:54, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
@Ldm1954 I think we are talking across purposes. Electron diffraction is yes not a sub-cat of electron microscopy also electron scattering.
but when someone is reading about electron microscopy, they sure need to understand electron interaction with matter.
A good start, but do you mind if I make/suggest edits? For instance, Gonen is dubious as is Nestor, what about Rose, Archie, Sir Peter, Cowley, Sumio? I think names have to be limited to those with big recognition, e.g, Wolf prize or a Gold medal. Also:
Remove visualization as there are too many who would want to be in
These topics are somewhat related to electron microscopy but they are related to a lot of other things as well. It won't make sense to fill up these pages with boxes of things they are related to. The See Also is sufficient. Johnjbarton (talk) 18:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
I would keep the template as I don't think there is any hard in it. However, it should only have central elements, and we don't want confusion. Ldm1954 (talk) 19:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
I did a hard edit, removing anything which is not extensive either in the literature or on a page. I think it is OK. Maybe I need to write pages for Haider & Rose (or get someone else to), they should be there Ldm1954 (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
Note: I removed the whole "EM" section as these are not separate microscopes. They are all minority/specialized techniques, and don't really belong. Also, I am dubious about Bodo, Hiller, Zworykin. Rose & Haider must be there. I suggest looking at some of Peter Hawkes papers. Ldm1954 (talk) 20:29, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
PEEM & LEEM I will give you, although the number of people who do them is small. If you include them, you will need to include Ernst Bauer (who I did consider). In that section you could reasonably add Microprobe.
Thank you so much for your work creating Sudan-related articles! It's such an underrepresented area on Wikipedia and your pages are finally bringing Sudanese history to light. Jebiguess (talk) 23:31, 6 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words and thank you too for your work on conflicts. It’s much needed but understandably most people avoid it. Please take care of your mental health. FuzzyMagma (talk) 07:15, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
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Hey again!
I was just wondering: are you fluent in any Sudanese minority languages (other than Arabic)?
I’ve been thinking about doing something to improve coverage of less prominent languages (e.g. specific features of languages are often considered notable, but such articles tend to cluster around European languages).
Hello brother! It's been a while. I am reaching out to appreciate your mentorship on creating quality articles. Your guide has made a lot of impacts in my article creation and most of the articles are start, C and B grades. Also, I am planning on having a community project where I can also train some community editors on the art and act if editing Wikipedia. I am hoping you could lend me a helping hand as always. Thank you @FuzzyMagmaIbjaja055 (talk) 16:28, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
My brother thanks for the kind words and it was a pleasure collaborating with you. Your work is indeed getting better. I think Elayne Jones can easily become a Good article.
Wow! you actually recommended the article before extensive editing. Anyway, you had a very kind reviewer that gave you a very constructive feedback that will allow you to re-nominate the article. but good work bringing Elayne legacy to the public bro. Huge KUDOS bro FuzzyMagma (talk) 10:49, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
Hello FuzzyMagma, I have stared to write comments for the GA review, and it is clear that the article needs to be copy edited to improve the quality of the English. Unless this is done, the article will be failed on this point alone. Please request the article is copy edited here.
@Amitchell125 forgot to tag you. I kinda checked some of your reviews and it’s really in depth and informative. Hope my nom won’t fail quickly and I will get a chance to learn something FuzzyMagma (talk) 22:46, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
@Amitchell125 “ The article is in need of copy editing, and this issue hasn't been addressed since the nominator was informed of the issue.” Are you sure?
I can't imagine that I could ever accumulate anything but a small fraction of your knowledge of light alloys or NE Africa, but my English is quite good I hope you would revert your change of the word "copious" to that which I'd originally substituted for it. Here are some dictionary definitions. Activist (talk) 06:56, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
I remember this edit, and sorry for reverting your edit in total. I didn’t agree with the change to “Janjawudeed” as you spelled it. The copious can mean ample and plentiful which what you also edited to “extensive”, so I felt reverting the edit in total was justified FuzzyMagma (talk) 13:50, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
Thanks. I meant to post the dictionary definitions of the words, "copious" and "extensive," to talk but as I noted. I've had intermittent keyboard problems with my old laptop that sometimes scrambles what I'm typing. That's what happened with "Janjaweed." The next time I go to the city I'll see if I am able to get a technician to sort it out. Activist (talk) 12:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
On 27 August 2023, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Mike Wingfield, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Mike Wingfield named a fungus after his first grandchild, Rachel? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Mike Wingfield. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Mike Wingfield), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Hi FuzzyMagma, I noticed you used my sandbox as a guide to update Dr. Washington's Wikipedia article. Thanks for your consideration. Could you help me understand how you perceived the sandbox? One section I strongly believe should be on the biography is the selected publications. Would consider adding the selected publications section from my sandbox to the article?--Chefmikesf (talk) 20:06, 31 August 2023 (UTC)
Your sandbox article was good. I had to change some wording to avoid WP:weasel words and WP:peacock terms. As for the selected publication, normally books are included in the article and some people to tend to add the selected publication section just to expand the article when you actually don’t have that much to add. Put for Washington article, I think the article has enough information and can also be improved further but I don’t see a value in adding the “selected publication” section as most readers will want to know the person and won’t be able to evaluate why these publications are important. FuzzyMagma (talk) 01:39, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Another two things, (1) I copied from your sandbox because you declared a conflict of interest which prohibited you from editing directly. So I thought as an impartial party I can put that work into use as you requested on Jess Wade talk (see User talk:Jesswade88#A. Eugene Washington
(2) if you disagree with my argument for not including the publication section, you can discuss it directly on the page talk or request the edit there. FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:20, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
On Sudanese conflict from Daily Chatter
Since you don't have an email connection on your USER page, I couldn't send this to you, and obviously feel free to erase, but I thought you might be interested. Daily Chatter is a source that I rarely read. I have no opinion on their claim to neutrality and nonpartisanship. Activist (talk) 13:46, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
I really do not know what to say beside just writing incoherently about what I am trying to ignore/supress. I have took couple of weeks away from updating 2023 Sudan conflict related article because how depressed I felt afterwards. as one friend described "it sucks when the news are relevant" and it is too real for me to be honest. I can some times recognise streets that were set ablaze or bombed and markets that were burned to the ground. I felt pain after I spend time massively expanding Republican Palace, Khartoum and then see a historical site being shelled. The national museums is robbed among many historical places, total destruction!.
Situation in Sudan is truly sad, and in El Geneina is becoming hell! .. but I have no clue what to do better than write some articles FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:10, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
Old Story, New Horrors
SUDAN
Sudan’s military-led central government and the Rapid Support Forces (RSF), a paramilitary force formerly allied with the government, have been waging a civil war for almost five months. Around 4,000 people have died in the fighting, but neither side has been able to vanquish the other. The people of Sudan have suffered as a result.
Violence has displaced four million people, including 1.7 million children within the northeastern African country, according to the United Nations. Around 430,000 people have fled the fighting by crossing through the western Sudanese region of Darfur and Sudan’s border into Chad. Many needed to evade the RSF and other militant groups in Darfur, where some of the worst horrors of the war are occurring today.
“A tragedy is unfolding in Nyala, South Darfur, as fighting continues to rage, with targeted and indiscriminate attacks against civilians reaching catastrophic levels,” warned Doctors Without Borders in a statement. “All roads in and out of the area are effectively cut off by the fighting.”
Refugees who reached Chad attested to the disaster.
“Four of us were wounded,” refugee Souad Ibrahim told Agence France-Presse. “We wandered barefoot around El-Geneina for seven days, moving from one place to another. We had no water and no food. Even though I was seven months pregnant, I had to carry my four-year-old boy on my back and my girl who is six followed on foot.”
CNN described the West Darfur capital of El Geneina as a “hellscape.”
The latest violence evokes the crimes against humanity and genocide that occurred in Darfur two decades ago, argued the Guardian in an editorial. The mass killings, sexual assaults, and the destruction of entire villages are occurring now as they did in the early 2000s. Approximately 300,000 perished in Darfur in that hellish period.
The two rivals in the civil war once worked together, noted the Council on Foreign Relations. Army Gen. Abdel Fattah Burhan became de facto head of state in 2019 when he helped oust former dictator Omar al-Bashir, who had ruled for three decades. RSF Gen. Mohamed Hamdan Dagalo supported Burhan but later refused to go along with a plan to integrate the RSF into the central government’s armed forces.
Sudan unfortunately has a long tradition of coups, rebellions, and other sources of instability that has prevented it from developing its economy and civil society, explained the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.
This latest war will likely add another chapter to this sad history.
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Thanks for your work. I noticed that you built the majority of Dark-field X-ray microscopy . I was wondering ....do you know if all of the quotes in there are identified as quotes? I saw many places where something looked like a quote from a source, where you referenced the source but it was not identified as a quote. Sincerely North8000 (talk) 15:45, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
I added the copyright tag for the reference. Hover over the 1st reference. Please, Let me know if that is not enough and how to fix it FuzzyMagma (talk) 15:58, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
My understanding is that it needs to (also) be specifically identified as a quote. Wikipedia:Non-free content#text. Which includes: "Brief quotations of copyrighted text may be used to illustrate a point, establish context, or attribute a point of view or idea. In all cases, an inline citation following the quote or the sentence where it is used is required. Copyrighted text that is used verbatim must be attributed with quotation marks or other standard notation, such as block quotes." Possibly you know more than me / something that I don't know regarding this. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 17:32, 10 September 2023 (UTC)
no, I do not think this is the case. This is a free text, I am not sure why are you citing a non-free text policy content unless I am totally missing what are you talking about. There are couple of scientific and non scientific articles that uses text from PD-books. I am not sure why you call it "quote". This is not an article about biography or a contiguous topic to balance opinions and quote. This is an X-ray technique and that is the paper the developed the technique.
I used in-line citation. Are we talking about the same article?
I looked at the article and saw what appears to be quoted material without quote marks. I figured that you are much more aware of what is in the article and what is an isn't in quotes so I thought I would just ask you. I don't have experience to know for sure about quote marks on non-copyrighted material, this wording from WP:Quotes (which is just an essay) seems to say it is: "For copyright-free and public domain material, use of quotation marks is not required by copyright but they must be used to avoid plagiarism and to provide clear attribution of the quoted material to the original author(s)." Also the guideline wp:plagiarism describes the following case "No in-text attribution, no quotation marks, no change in text, inline citation only" as a "red X". I'm happy to not carry this further and just let another NPP'er review it. Sincerely, North8000 (talk) 00:46, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I looked at the article and saw what appears to be quoted material without quote marks., can you be specific, which material you did consider quoted? Give me a couple of examples please? FuzzyMagma (talk) 06:30, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
I was seeking your knowledge on whether or not that is the case, not claiming that it is the case.North8000 (talk) 14:17, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
You were not. You started by was wondering ....do you know if all of the quotes in there are identified as quotes?, and am asking a simple question? Which quotes? Please give examples of some of these “quotes “ FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:23, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
@North8000 You also stated that I saw many places where something looked like a quote from a source, where you referenced the source but it was not identified as a quote., so give couple of examples please of these places? FuzzyMagma (talk) 14:26, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
You are missing my point and so we're going in circles. Again, I was seeking your knowledge on whether or not that is the case, not claiming that it is the case. North8000 (talk) 14:38, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
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Dirt was an website from Penske Media Corporation, the same company responsible for Rolling Stone, Variety and others, how is this not reliable? You also claimed a bunch of sources failed verifiability and closed the nomination, I would like for you to elaborate how exactly:
REF 1 - PAGES 5 AND 6 - https://web.archive.org/web/20071111124731/http://www.coldplay.com/ezine/ezine1.pdf
My statements:
In 1998, Martin complained about local promoters.
Harvey suggested the group should organise their own concert at Dingwalls.
Around 400 people attended the show.
The first 50 copies of Safety were sold during the performance.
Quote about his experience.
He was in Classical Studies.
Original:
At the same time that I was boring myself stupid studying Latin and Greek up at Oxford [...] One day Chris was telling me about how one of the local Camden promoters had a bit of a vicelike grip on the band and wasn't coughing up any money so I suggested the band put on their own event. We booked a local venue called Dingwalls and printed up thousands and thousands of flyers. I think in the end we got about 400 people in there, which, considering the band had only played three or four prior gigs, was a big deal. As I remember, it was the money from that night which allowed me to pay back my investors (my Dad and my Oxford roommate) who had lent me the funds to get the Safety EP made. We sold the first 50 copies that night so all in all I suppose that was the time that I officially became manager. [...] Absolutely. When Parachutes came out in the UK and Europe, I got incredibly stressed and was convinced I'd got in over my head. The album went straight in at No.1 and all of a sudden I was working 16 hours a day with three phone lines ringing constantly. I didn't have an assistant or anything so there was no one to take any of the load off my shoulders. I got on top of things in the end and for nearly a year got through on sheer adrenalin but I paid the price later when my body finally decided enough was enough in early 2001. I got really ill and had to take several months off work. I certainly thought about giving up then. It crossed my mind that I simply wasn't tough enough. It was only later that I discovered most international bands have huge teams and organisations supporting them not just one bloke in a shithole office.
Yes, Chris & Phil go way back. He's not their manager though. He was up until A Rush Of Blood... He returned in 2006 and is considered to be the band's 5th member.
Good afternoon. It has been brought to our attention that the Wikipedia article on hell-raising rock combo Coldplay is not as accurate as it could be. For starters, it was Mr Tim Crompton who first suggested the name Coldplay, not Mr Tim Rice-Oxley. Also, the song featuring Miss Kylie Minogue is called Lhuna, not Lunar, and is not confirmed to be on the band's next album. Furthermore, eagle-eyed readers of the band's album sleevenotes (or, indeed, their MySpace page) will have noted that Coldplay officially have five members - with the mysterious Mr Phil Harvey making up the quintet. The band would, we're told, be enormously grateful if these inaccuracies could be corrected, so that they don't keep having to answer questions about them.
"As per Jonny Buckland, he is a wise man, sounding board, buffer zone, everything".
Original:
With our last album, we missed our editor and our fifth member, because he was a few thousand miles too far away,” says Martin. “Some of the songs on that record are great, but we needed someone to say, relax, take this out, don’t worry about this. Phil’s like an overlord figure for us.” “He was the biggest difference of all on this record, I think,” adds Buckland. “We missed him so much on the last one. He’s our wise man, sounding board, buffer zone, everything.
Studied psychotherapy and counselling at Regent's College.
Attained a psychology degree at University of Melbourne.
Volunteered at Upbeat.
Became the vice-chair of the organisation, while Coldplay joined him as patrons.
Original:
Harvey took months to recover. Afterwards he decided to venture on a new path - immersing himself in studying psychology with a view to qualify as a clinical psychologist. First he completed a foundation course in psychotherapy and counselling at Regents College, London, then a psychology degree from the University of Melbourne in Australia. A doctorate in clinical psychology is Harvey’s next target. [...] And when Harvey decided to search online for voluntary work, he was struck by Upbeat [...] This was when Harvey stepped in with £40,000 to top up Upbeat’s other grant. He also became Upbeat’s vice-chair. And Harvey asked the rest of Coldplay if they would agree to the band becoming Upbeat’s patrons. It was a yes.
@GustavoCza I checked them one by one and the sources did not open. Maybe your browser saved the pages cash but anyway all of these references are primary anyway so quick fail was in order regardless.
If you think I made the wrong call please feel free to use WP:3O
as for the reliable source, your references numbering move when you start edit because how you stacked couple of them together. So check the one before FuzzyMagma (talk) 19:48, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
The tag is not for tune or POV, it’s because you use interviews and tweets as a reliable source. They are not. If there is no enough coverage about the person, then you don’t need to look to primary sources. Just stick to the reliable sources.
The article as it stands is a quick fail due to reliability of the sources and the excessive use of quotation. Please fix that and renominate. You don’t need to fix it on my talk FuzzyMagma (talk) 20:12, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
There are featured articles that use interviews as a reference. I will try to find more secondary sources (I was able to take out three Coldplay website links already), but I think you are being too much of a extremist with this. GustavoCza (talk • contribs) 22:38, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
I think the quotes and references issues have been properly addressed now, so allow me to clarify the last remaining points of your review:
Personal life: I used "the manager" to avoid repetition, thus giving the read a better flow.
Discography: Aside from complementing his disdain towards the creative director moniker, the pink quote also serves as a source for this section. I own all of their albums and except for Parachutes (manager) and X&Y ("wise words") he is listed as a band member in all of them.
External links: Harvey won a Grammy Award for Clocks, there is no reason to remove it considering most winners have this included on their articles.
@GustavoCza thanks for fixing the article. When you nominate it please add a comment that you fixed the problems from previous GA nominations.
For GA, you don’t need my support, just one reviewer need to check it’s up to the GA standards, and since you fix the main issues then it will be easier. Good luck and well done FuzzyMagma (talk) 08:04, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
I own all of their albums and except for Parachutes (manager) and X&Y. Sadly no one will take that as an argument (see Wikipedia:Expert editors#General point 2) put if the articles are well referenced and contains that information most reviewers will not ask for a reference FuzzyMagma (talk) 08:12, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Direct comments: looks better especially with regard to flowery words except for "Origins rooted in history" which need to be changed. You need a reference at the end of the "Ongoing disputes". And if you have section with on sentence then consider not having that as a section
In general, here are many duplicated information between symbolism and history for example, "Complex origins" section can be at the start of the history section and then followed by "Pre-Ogiso periods" and so on. have a look at Fortifications of Valletta. Although the images layout is bad, the article structure is good and you can replicate it.
Generally you should tell the history of the building until its current status including construction, restoration, disputes, stolen pieces and erosion due to climate change and humans.
Then in a separate section, delve into its architectural details. In another section, you should describe the site symbolism or its mention in popular culture, e.g., movies that included the site, poems, bank notes, myths, etc.
All of these may not be available, but a good article need to explore these elements and try to give the reader a good breadth of coverage.
You can also add a further reading section for books the goes into more details
It is largely referred to as The "Benin Moat". But I believe it should be "Moats" because it is not "Wall" but "Walls". So, I think "Benin Moats" is grammatically correct, but, the "Benin Moat" is what is used to refer to it as a topic, while it can be called moats just depending on the sentence structure. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 16:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
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