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My complaint about Lamb Lies Down is that the entire plot summary section is a subjective fan interpretation. Nowhere has anyone explained the story, it means what it says in the lyrics and NOTHING MORE. 69.244.41.185 (talk) 23:50, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest you start a discussion on the article's talk page and see how other editors feel about the removal. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:51, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey @FlightTime:

I'm here regarding the "minthreadsleft" variable for Talk: Kathy Griffin. I totally accept that the guidance is an example, not a rule. But I feel there should be some "minimum number of threads that should be left on a page (to prevent pages from getting completely harvested)." I think he purpose of archiving a page is primarily to limit its size to a manageable length, rather than just removing everything considered old.

I accept that 4 threads is totally arbitrary limit, what do you think the limit should be? 3? 5? etc. Greg (talk) 23:49, 16 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Greggydude: Why ? Why do you feel a talk page cannot be empty of inactive discussions, is it like wall paper ? does the page seem naked without some sections with words ? - FlightTime (open channel) 00:00, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Greggydude: I've changed it to 2, I'm not trying to be rude or something, it's just I don't understand why no discussions on a talk page is an issue. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:14, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, no worries, I don't think you're rude! I think for more experienced users, such as yourself, it makes no practical difference at all to see a barren talk page, particularly if there is an archive page you can look at. However, for newer users (who may not even know what archive pages are, let alone how to access them) I think it makes all the difference. Why? Because it's much easier to join the crowd than it is to make the leap for (what they believe to be) the first time. My 2₵ Greg (talk) 00:46, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Greggydude: Understood, thank you - FlightTime (open channel) 01:02, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you keep an eye when who involved genre changes or did not make the final consensus. 115.164.180.58 (talk) 07:07, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. If you want consensus, I'll start the consensus making, then. So what do you think about my edits? Is there any issue you have with them which make the article worse than before? Personally, I have been told to move references from the infobox to the body when possible, which is what I was attempting to do. On the other hand, I just thought the writing change would be convenient. 104.39.214.203 (talk) 20:28, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, if all you were doing was properly moving references to support the same genre's in the body then go for it, your edit summaries were not very clear, my concern was any further changes to genres in the infobox without consensus. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:10, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, you see, what I was doing was being a little lazy and allowing AnomieBot to rescue the orphaned refs. '^^ I suppose I can do it the long way. What about the writer changes? Are those okay? 104.39.214.203 (talk) 21:19, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I responded to your comment on the Joe Walsh article. This is Jakob9999 but am using the Edge browser so am not signed in to my account. 2600:8804:8440:30B:1D05:B591:7067:57DC (talk) 03:24, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Just a heads up on that user Fire.catcher -- he's a sockpuppet who has over 10 socks. I will be reporting him and he will be blocked in due time, but he is a repeat offender of the Simple Minds, Altan (band), and Malicorne (band) pages. He always has the same username type, with the period in the middle and he always edits crappily. --Jennica✿ / ^talk 07:26, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jennica: This is what happens when your talk page is the last thing you check :P - FlightTime (open channel) 21:36, 23 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the dates, but you reverted the edit. How do I use sources to fix the dates again. Ssjhowarthisawesome (talk) 23:56, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssjhowarthisawesome: See Help:Referencing for beginners. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:58, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime:

Pelhamblue (talk) 20:08, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Pelhamblue: You need to make this argument on the article's talk page, not heere. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:20, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime: Dude, u are super awesome thank you for visiting the Tom Petty page you looked at the page for the sadly recently deceased musician so i would like to thank you for that please and hopefully search me up and message me on my page THANK YOU AND GOODBYE!

Awesomekidwholikesmusic23 (talk) 23:15, 3 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

No one else is objecting and he said that he's going to leave it be, so what is the dispute exactly? Why do you want this to contradict the infobox? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:02, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Koavf: Unless you can point to a guideline that supports your changes, I'd like to see some consensus on how this should be done. Why do you think Frey is still listed first on {{Eagles}} ? Don't you think a discussion is warranted to resolve this ? - FlightTime (open channel) 18:10, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Because--as I pointed out there and it my edit summary--that's a bad that is broken up, so all of them are on the same line. He is first because he was a founding member of the band and "f" comes before "h", "l", and "m" in the alphabet. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 18:13, 7 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

There is no "occasional bass" credit for Robert Plant on the first Led Zeppelin album. This is a verifiable fact that one can confirm many ways, including by visiting https://www.discogs.com/Led-Zeppelin-Led-Zeppelin/master/4126 and looking at several hundred packaging scans for the first album. Plant's recollection in 2005, 36 years after the album came out, is incorrect but easily explainable. A simple google search -- https://www.google.com/search?q=%22occasional+bass%22+%22led+zeppelin%22 -- shows that every reference to "occasional bass" in the context of Led Zeppelin leads back to either 1) the 1969 press release or 2) the Robert Plant interview. Your changes yesterday restored an obvious error. I don't have a wikipedia account and wanted to fix this obvious error. 38.100.128.2 (talk) 14:42, 11 October 2017 (UTC) 38.100.128.2 (talk) 14:29, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is exactly what you should of included with your edit, see Help:Referencing for beginners and Wikipedia:Verifiability. We as editors create and maintain articles for our readers, tell me, how does a reader who does not have the album cover verify the information in that (or any) section is correct ? Do you really except 10 year old Jimmy to navigate to another website or search to verify the information, do you think a good Encyclopedia would last if they except their readers to go elsewhere to verify the information ? that's completely against the point of having an Encyclopedia in the first place. Our guideline here PROVE IT that if you want to add information to the project, the onus is yours not the readers or patrolling editors. Also, discogs.com is not considered a reliable reference. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:06, 11 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, 100kttt here. Thanks for your message. I am trying to insert my proper name and also correct the grammar inserted poorly by others. Help!!!!

100kttt (talk) 19:15, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@100kttt: What do you mean, "insert my proper name" ? Editors do not put their name in articles. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:39, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I mean that the entry for Nicholas Baker (me) should be Nick Baker. Not Nicholas. I am not sure I am handling this correctly.

2601:4C4:4180:4C8:3469:5844:CA62:44CC (talk) 20:05, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@100kttt: If you are Nicholas Baker you should not be editing the article at all, see Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:09, 13 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FlightTime. The only reference I can find is on a President of Cayman Islands Cycling Association post on his Facebook page which shows a pic from Seoul while training in Sept 1988 where the name Nick is stated. Also another post from him in a pic where we entered the Opening Ceremony where I am also referred to me as Nick. People do not know me as Nicholas. 100kttt (talk) 03:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You threatened to block me for "unsourced material" on Pauley Perrette. Said "unsourced material was replacing category "American Methodists" with "American United Methodists". Here is a line from the article: "She is a member of the Hollywood United Methodist Church." The source following this sentence is from the United Methodist Church. So how is this unsourced? You provided no explanation and threatened to block me. Perhaps you should have read the article before a knee-jerk rollback. Jgefd (talk) 16:49, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

• Sorry if that was a bit rude but the material is in the article and has a source. So just letting you know I reverted your revert on the article for that reason. Nothing personal. By the way, the category "American United Methodists" was nearly empty before I starting filling it. All the articles I add to include the info in the article with a source. Jgefd (talk) 16:57, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Jgefd: Sorry, my CTRL+F error. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:11, 22 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can I ask why my entire edit here was reverted? For example, Constellation Brands – Marvin Sands Performing Arts Center is a proper name for a venue located in, according to wikipedia, Hopewell. Also the songs in the setlist linked to its pages, just like here, so I don't get why all that stuff had to be switched back. Slavek94 (talk) 01:29, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Slavek94: The entire edit involves over 50 % of the article, major changes should be discussed on the article talk page beforehand. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:41, 27 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm pretty sure 2600:387:8:9::8f is User:Atomic Meltdown, a chronic edit warrior. He doesn't do Talk pages. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 17:53, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@JasonAQuest: Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:31, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Here is a source for the recent edits to the Ramones article. Is it acceptable? https://books.google.ca/books?id=dBZlyEn5H1gC&pg=PT47&dq=richie+stern&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjGmcu_3pbXAhVm34MKHWFaDi4Q6AEILjAB#v=onepage&q=richie%20stern&f=false DeathTrain (talk) 21:13, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DeathTrain: This needs to be discussed on the article's talk page, not on mine. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:20, 29 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Adityavagarwal: Thank you. May you have a sweet and scary week. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:01, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no. Don't say that; I am really scared of ghosts! I would take the sweet part, and I would give you the scary part, as I like to share! I hope it is ok with you. Adityavagarwal (talk) 15:03, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Word's such as iconic are considered biased by Wikipedia's standards. Please see "Word's to watch" Truther1515 (talk) 22:26, 30 October 2017 (UTC)[reply]

"Unfortunately, your edit to F Troop does not conform to Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy (NPOV)."

Actually, I was just trying to tighten things up a bit. But whatever. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 22:49, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DetroitWheels74: You have been warned before about adding your personal opinions to articles, not heeding warnings usually leads to a blocked account, but whatever. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:10, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The "Sanford and Son" edit was adding the words, "(In real life, actors Foxx and Page were close friends, having grown up together in St. Louis; Foxx even threatened to walk off the show when the producers considered firing her.)" -- which probably should've been sourced better, but it's hardly bad enough to require a "warning". Ease off, OK? Nothing makes Wikipedia less fun than heavy-handed administrating. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 23:15, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, if could explain exactly what you didn't like about my edit(s), rather than moving directly to threats, we could actually have a "civil discussion", as you put it. Thanks. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 23:32, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please point me to my "threats". Here's a couple of instances for my revert on F Troop.

• (Berry was only 32 when he took the role)
• (The O'Rourke character was nothing new for Tucker, having played a similar character on Gunsmoke, and in fact had actually served in the US Cavalry prior to World War II)
• (depending on whose chest he buries his head in)
• (which is often)
• (including a horse)

I really don't want to argue your editing, please continue as you wish. Happy editing, - FlightTime (open channel) 23:44, 1 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, every one of those items (except the one about Berry being 32) were already in the article; I just rearranged/cleaned things up a bit. For this, you threatened to block my account. Geez. This Wiki thing is getting to be less fun by the day. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 11:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I fixed the license statement issue for both pictures I uploaded but when I tried to remove the deletion template, your bot reverted the edit and said what I did was "considered vandalism". Can you remove it then?

The statement can be seen here: http://juronovelty.com/Image%20License.html which clearly states the pictures are public domain. Flaming numbskull (talk) 17:40, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Flaming numbskull: The file pages have been amended and the email sent to OTRS ( VRTS ticket # 2017102710013001 ) has been replied to, requesting more proper permissions be sent. The files at this point will not be deleted. Sorry for the mix-up and my last reply. Thank you, - - FlightTime (open channel) 18:33, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You can't really tell me to stop editing something due to non-verification then tell me you're going to ban me if I keep doing it when I edited an article before that, you could just send the same message again??? Oh, and I removed my edit on Cosmic Girl when I saw your notification. RadioExpertUK (talk) 22:16, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 22:18, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, to provide a source, what sources can I relate a song to if I think it's a specific genre. Thanks RadioExpertUK (talk) 22:21, 3 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@RadioExpertUK: This is an Encyclopedia, claims must be supported by reliable sources, what you "think" is irreverent to an Encyclopedia. If you would take the time to read the first message I left for you, it says, Genre changes to suit your own point of view are considered disruptive

Calling space a "void" is not accurate. My edit is founded and sound because space is an expanse that allows energy to travel. A void is nothing (like "null & void"). Space is far from "void", that is ignorant to say and believe, as well as insulting to space. It is far from nothing and that is why I edited. Now if you will allow the public to actually edit, maybe your website wouldn't always be begging for donations and people would feel more inclined to do so. Citizen 88923028193 AC (talk) 19:24, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Citizen 88923028193 AC: You need to discuss this on the article's talk page, not here. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:33, 4 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You just caught me (It's almost 2am here). Set indef pending changes. See how that goes. Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 01:52, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ronhjones: I sent you a thank you :) - FlightTime (open channel) 01:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

See Template_talk:Infobox_planet#Doubled_link_Perihelion_and_aphelion_text and correct your error there. Tom Ruen (talk) 05:34, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello...I'm just wondering how my addition to the "in popular culture" section of the "Laika" article was any more "non-notable" than the half-dozen other songs already mentioned in the same section. Thanks for any clarification. PurpleChez (talk) 16:31, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ignore me...I'm an idiot...I swear I read through that section at least half a dozen times but still managed to miss that the song was already mentioned. Thanks for catching that.... PurpleChez (talk) 16:40, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

(edit conflict) @PurpleChez: Did you read my edit summary? It's not notable. Please see WP:IPCEXAMPLES, however you can seek consensus on the article's talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:46, 5 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your message referencing Wikipedia’s preference for regional habits of grammar; I was unaware!

I don’t pretend to be a pedantic grammarian but I’m home sick and amusing myself. So, I would like to offer support, then, to the argument for a single, universal standard pertaining strictly to s/v agreement and pronoun usage regarding assemblies of people into groups.

While regional variances of language are invaluable in accents, figures of speech and expressing sentiments in unique ways, some rules of grammar and language should be upheld where they support proper concepts of all things to do with human beings.

While it can be accepted in some places to consider a group (be it band, team, corporation, city or nation state and race) as an entity rather than a collection of people, it has a dilutive effect that can dehumanize thought and reality as that concept presumes monolithic behavior. That is, referring to Motley Crue as an ‘it’ rather than ‘they’. Similarly, when victims of homicide are said to have been ‘killed’ rather than ‘murdered’—it’s not just an injustice to grammar but a miscarriage of how human events are regarded.

Where best to advance this within the digital realm of Wikipedia?

Thanks!

The Pumpking (talk) 16:06, 6 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am very disappointed that you have edited out my additions. QR Rail Fail is a very significant matter. To simply revert to the old page is to deny the truth. Hiromi kirishima (talk) 23:42, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Hiromi kirishima: Keep it up and you're going to be really disappointed when you get blocked. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:52, 9 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I noticed you added non-free content tags to Elvis Presley but it looks like the links in question are copied from Wikipedia; not the other way round.

Thanks,

Janet-O (talk) 16:04, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Janet-O: Regardless of where it came from, it still requires attribution. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:14, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Janet-O: See here for an explaination of the issue from a user who works with text copyrights. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:22, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source for children is on Mike McCullough's Profile page on PGATour.com https://www.pgatour.com/players/player.01782.mike-mccullough.html Mmccull9039c (talk) 21:06, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:07, 10 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I forgot to add more information about Grant Imahara. But we all know that Imahara was a Japanese name. His parents are Japanese, I forgot to add source link about him. it was all my fault. ScrewsHirsch (talk) 16:17, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ScrewsHirsch: No problem. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:18, 18 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I was only implying that New Yorks influence is evenly on paper with London's...A.T Kearney is a tangible source provided. What was your disapproval? NocturnalDef (talk) 11:53, 20 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I'm an art historician specialized on popular music, the changes that i've put are result of the study that we do a group of specialists on the University of Barcelona and try to fit better the different styles present on the albums of Metallica. We think that add specific subgenres gives a more detailed vision of what the listener can find inside of the album. For example, St. Anger doesn't respond to the normal canon of heavy metal, and is more related to the sound of the Nu Metal of the late 90's and early 2000's. Sorry for my mistakes writing english, but I think that our idea is fair. 95.120.224.238 (talk) 20:19, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Regardless, we have rules here and changes to music genre's require discussion to seek consensus and reliable sources beforehand. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:25, 24 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, reliable source has been add to Shadia. I'm an Editor on the arabic wiki.

LOL, so ! - FlightTime (open channel) 21:26, 28 November 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So have some respect to people and i have put the source of information. Not my problem i speak english and you don't speak arabic, try use google translation to read the source ([1])

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Can you please help me with the percentage change Vitopavlovivit (talk) 20:47, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Vitopavlovivit: Sorry, I don't know anything about subject matter. I suggest you post a similar message on the article's talk page, a user who regularly watches that page would be able to help, you could post an edit request which should get you a faster reply. Hope this helps. Happy editing - FlightTime (open channel) 21:17, 9 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wow! That was an especially fetid mess of ignorance and hatred, stewed together with some deep-seated emotional problems, you wiped up there. Thanks for the revert. Orange Mike | Talk 00:34, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Orangemike: No problem, now see User:Orangemike is a far-left terror supporter - FlightTime (open channel) 00:38, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

My friends and foes who genuinely are far-left, if not necessarily terrorism supporters, would find this accusation hilarious. --Orange Mike | Talk 00:50, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Aux barricades! Acroterion (talk) 00:53, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:54, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Acroterion and Orangemike: Since I have you both here, can you check out this editor, I've explained to them that these "notable works" listing in the infobox are against the template's documention. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:01, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hmmm... parameters says, "Works" is intended to link to a list article for a larger body of work, not all of which may be individually notable. I don't really see this as a misuse of the parameter, at least in the case of the Travolta item linking to a filmography. --Orange Mike | Talk 01:40, 10 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't understand why you keep removing the category of albums recorded at Morgan Sound Studios and reverting these edits, because I only add it if the album in question has in fact been recorded there.

61.69.217.3 (talk) 06:28, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I'm removing it because you're not providing any reliable sources to support your claims. - FlightTime (open channel) 17:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You reverted an edit in error, which states that when Linda's mother died in 1962, she was newly divorced from Joseph Melville See, but that is impossible for it to be so, because they married after Linda's mother died, had Heather in either 1962 or 1963 and didn't divorce until 1965

61.69.217.3 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 11:58, 17 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't revert my edits for Ace Kefford, because the article is indeed too short and "Save the Life of My Child" was indeed originally by Simon and Garfunkel.

61.69.217.3 (talk) 06:58, 19 December 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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