User talk:FlightTime/Archive 26

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Hey FlightTime. I just was looking at the Arlington, Texas article, and noticed that you were dealing with User:Fands578. You certainly were going by policy, but I'm a bit bothered by how the whole thing panned out, and think you might have come off as a bit WP:BITEy. It's far from obvious to a newcomer that the COI guidelines are as strict as they are now (if I'm reading them right, I will admit I'm a bit out of date). Especially in this context where the user (while in some sense paid to make the edits he made) was making purely factually correct edits without making any color commentary or puffery, and was up front about their COI, I think it's broadly worthwhile to extend a hand in good faith rather than templating. I can see as a non-experienced user it's quite strange that these factual edits would be reverted even given their COI, and providing some context can really help bridge the divide. I've blocked the sock account the user was using, but the fact that it got to that is pretty suboptimal. NativeForeigner ^Talk 05:20, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Received. - FlightTime (open channel) 12:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey about the SR-71 Edit, Two of the songs of the album are Nu-Metal. That's why I added the Genre to album article. Just listen to "Truth" and "Tomorrow" they're nu metal tracks. BTW None of the tracks are Punk Rock. The Tracks "She was Dead" and "Lucky" are pop-punk song written in a four chord pattern. AlternativeMusicEdits19 (talk) 21:42, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@AlternativeMusicEdits19: regardless, you need reliable sources and consensus for genre changes, and AllMusic is not a reliable source. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:48, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

AlternativeMusicEdits19 says I did not Use allmusic as source for the genre, I simply put genre on the article based on the charcteristics of the two songs.

OK, my error, you still need sources and consensus. Happy editing, - FlightTime (open channel) 21:59, 14 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you changing all my edits? Yoda956 (talk) 15:49, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Yoda956: Because they are all unsourced and none of them have consensus, which is required for all genre changes. Same thing you were blocked for. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:53, 15 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You can't have meant a neutral vote. --Dweller (talk) Become old fashioned! 15:55, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dweller: Well, yes I did, maybe I just don't under stand how a neutral !vote is seen. One good reason I'm not a crat. You asked for non-crat comments, well, there one is :P - FlightTime (open channel) 16:19, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dweller: Maybe an "empty oppose" would make more sense? - FlightTime (open channel) 16:34, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello @Flighttime I read I was to remove the deletion message so I did. I'm new but hope not to distrupt any correct ways of doing work on here. I'm open to follow correct ways. Can you help me? @FlightTime: Dman54321 (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Dman54321 (talk) 19:37, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dman54321: Where exactly did you read this ? - FlightTime (open channel) 20:00, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime: On my talkpage Dman54321 (talk) 20:19, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Dman54321: It meant remove it from your article, you were removing it from Wikipedia. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:22, 19 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello!

I have just noticed that you reversed my previous edit in the Signals article, and I would like to discuss why I believe the content needs to be added as well as state any other edits that I feel need to be made to the same article as well. I understand that you want to keep Wikipedia free of clutter, and I would appreciate discussing this with you.

SomePersona (talk) 03:14, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@SomePersona: It's not a clutter issue. You made some major changes to an high profile music article and you should see what the community feels about these changes first. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:21, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The changes in question added well-sourced information about the album's reception, as noted at various music review websites. This seems a legitimate edit. WP:CONSENSUS is not to be wielded as an axe to prevent any progress at Wikipedia. Consensus is needed over controversial issues, but not every edit requires consensus. WikiDan61^ChatMe!_ReadMe!! 12:41, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: Please remember to voice your opinion in the discussion. Again, please honor my request - FlightTime (open channel) 14:29, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@WikiDan61: We can have a discussion anywhere you want, just not on my talk, my request was four months ago, why are you here today ? If you want to talk about me requesting consensus, wouldn't the article's talk be a good place ? - FlightTime (open channel) 16:17, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey what's good, I see you reverted my edit on the List of Linkin Park members page in good faith. Although I'm glad you do realize it was done in good faith, why was it reverted? The claims I added also fitted with the source that was provided (which was The Guardian article). It states his sexual abuse, and how he remembered his eventful childhood during a visit to his mother's house, almost beginning to cry. Chester goes on to say that it's no wonder that he took drugs; With literally all of this pointing to depression, which Chester actually struggled with for much of his life. So I don't know how my claim is wrong, can you clarify? Thanks. USMCLP (talk) 13:33, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@USMCLP: I'm merely asking for you to source your claim, BLP area article's require higher standards for Verifiability. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

So I have to submit a definitive source for a claim that pretty much has it's own source already? Lmao well okay. Rules are rules. Thanks for clarifying. USMCLP (talk) 21:53, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@USMCLP: The source that were there did not support that claim, so yes, a claim of sexual abuse of another person listed in an Encyclopedia need stated proof. - FlightTime (open channel) 00:46, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Wait, clarify again. The claim you're referring to is that these events led to his depression and addiction right? Because if you're saying that the sexual abuse claim I put there is wrong, then you're wrong yourself because Source 18, which is The Guardian article, directly states that. USMCLP (talk) 02:28, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@USMCLP: Where do I say, "you edit" is wrong ? - FlightTime (open channel) 02:38, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This is source 18 I don't see any conformation. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:42, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Oh no I'm not saying you're saying I'm wrong, but I'm just trying to prove the source of my claim. And lol it's my fault I've confused sources with references, I'm referring to Reference 18, which is the article that supports my claim. Here's the link, hope that settles up the confusion. Scroll down a little: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2011/jul/07/linkin-park-moscow-interview USMCLP (talk) 02:59, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@USMCLP: Great, that's fine. If you would of had that included with your edit the first time, we wouldn't be here. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:08, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Lmao yeah whatever. USMCLP (talk) 07:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@USMCLP: You really except a reader search the whole page and read every reference to see if that information is correct ?" Why don't you review Help:Referencing for beginners and put that reference next to your edit just like I've been trying to get through your "lmao whatever" head. - FlightTime (open channel) 12:49, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The "Cutting back" was meant to say I'll cease and desist for the time being. Thanks for reminding me about this issue. Supreme Dragon (talk) 15:32, 23 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

This section is about the Alice in Chains article. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:59, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's to generalize the intro genre. Rock has been there since the very beginning. Check the history. Recently it was changed to alternative metal by a random account without any discussion or citation.--Oderinnn (talk) 07:55, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to --Oderinnn (talk) 11:00, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Oderinnn: Thank you, I have gone through the page history and rock has been the norm. Looks like it got messed up in a IP genre war. Thanks for your note :) - FlightTime (open channel) 22:43, 28 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you keep an eye of user talk page if he/she blanking? 183.171.182.176 (talk) 17:27, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Foxx and Page's friendship is well-known, and is mentioned on both of their pages. Disruptive? Hardly. DetroitWheels74 (talk) 13:13, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@DetroitWheels74: Then source it and don't write it like it's your personal opinions. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:15, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I think you need to un-clench, my friend. (It can't be as bad as all that, can it?) DetroitWheels74 (talk) 13:51, 30 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, don't see any reason, why you undid my revision on "Alone again (naturally)". The version does exist, I quoted a print source. So, I don't See any reason, why you deleted my revision and undid it. Still would like to know why you delete my revision?! All best! Theatermann (talk) 00:22, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Theatermann: You need to seek consensus for inclusion, just because something is true and sourceable doesn't make it notable. Please start a discussion on the article's talk page and see if the community wants it included. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:22, 7 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems he's persistent on changing the AiC lead by discarding the warning note again and again and again. And he's quite clever at it. As sneaky as his previous attempt. --Oderinnn (talk) 07:06, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Oderinnn: Yeah, 4TheWynne (IMO) has had a WP:OWN attitude/issues since he showed up, then he'll back off and in a couple days go around to the back door and restore his preferred version in hopes no one will notice. I'm frankly tired of dealing with his trickery, so someone else can carry on, I just don't have the energy anymore. 4TheWynne if you're here to comment, please don't, I'd just rather you stay away from my talk from now on, happy editing. - FlightTime (open channel) 20:40, 11 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi FT. When I saw the "angle" of your talk page this was my first reaction. Then I remembered that every fight in this version of Batman took place at various versions of the same. Thanks for bringing a smile to my Sunday. It was much needed. Cheers. MarnetteD|Talk 17:52, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@MarnetteD: LOL. You're very welcome for the smile and I'm sorry about your head . - FlightTime (open channel) 17:57, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

HeeHee. MarnetteD|Talk 17:59, 13 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Flight Time, sorry for any hassle... I am an employee of the ICA and I was just trying to update the links of Wiki's gemstone articles that already have a link to our website as an external link. This is because we are updating it and have new URLs. Is this a problem or COI? Should I do this differently? Should I send somebody the list of new URLs? Or just leave the broken links? Or do a re-direct? Thank you for your feedback, no harm intended. Hope we can still let Wiki readers link to ICA's information. Cecilia ICAgemstone (talk) 16:10, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ICAgemstone: Please review Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:Username policy - FlightTime (open channel) 16:18, 15 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@QuackGuru: Why are you leaving warning templates on my talk page ?

I did not leave you a warning. I left a note on your talk page. You wrote "External links in article body". They are not in the body. Refs are required. QuackGuru (talk) 23:44, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@QuackGuru: Those were not references they were external links, you might want to review Help:referencing for beginners. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:49, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

These are refs. They were bare refs that were not yet formatted like the others. The others that were formatted you did not delete. You deleted the ones that were not formatted. QuackGuru (talk) 23:51, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I rest my case. Please be a little more careful with those templates. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Curious to know what I did wrong with an edit to: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Calling_Occupants_of_Interplanetary_Craft&action=history as you reverted it shortly after? I was adding a further song usage reference as had already been done in the line above. Ghan210 (talk) 01:38, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ghan210: Well, two things, 1). External links are not placed in the article's body. 2). Not notable, however, you can seek consensus on the article's talk page. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:51, 20 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

https://ell.stackexchange.com/questions/6295/when-a-word-ends-in-s-or-x-do-you-add-s-or-just-an When did people add to 's to names ending in s ? LADLAKLALLAR1102 (talk) 05:48, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@LADLAKLALLAR1102: No, sorry I don't, however you should be able to find an explanation here Apostrophe or you can ask this question at the help desk. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 06:09, 21 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Can you change the RIAA certification of Who's Next in The Who discography page from 3x platinum to 4x platinum and in the the Who's Next page from 3x platinum to 4x platinum^[1] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.99.13.163 (talk) 19:32, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Well, no. Your reference is a website that allows anyone to join and post information, which is not a reliable source. If you disagree you are of course free to make another edit request on the article talk page. Cheers, - FlightTime (open channel) 19:44, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Not to be too rude but I was only following up on past experience and trying to add in a missing credit to Michael Dorn's name since I used to watch the series Martial Law on CBS and Spike TV a long time ago which I confirmed Dorn's involvement since I was also watching Star Trek. Dorn only did a one-episode appearance portraying a corrupt councilman trying to gain control of a football team for himself. I do understand that since the episode aired in January 8 2000, there aren't really any good sources anymore and I am not trying to start an edit war despite my distaste for Wikipedia's rules. You could either got the DVD or watch the episode online are the only real options left besides using TV.com and IMDB, which I admit is often the issue when it comes to using sources for things produced so long ago people could barely remember. -2601:1C2:4E00:BB1:B005:7074:5B1:915F (talk) 19:13, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for the suggestion, it is the sanest thing I have heard all day. I appreciate it and will do it.Earl E. Smith (talk) 19:43, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

You left a message on my talk page to say to stop changing genres without consensus, when that wasn't what I did. I reverted a revision that was a genre change without reasoning. So i was helping, It wasn't an opinion, I was reverting vandalism. ~// This is an edit by The Edit King 👑 \\~ 20:13, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Wikipageedittor099: Ok, then please review why we should use edit summaries. Thank you, - FlightTime (open channel) 20:32, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

With 90% of its text removed, when will this page be considered standard and unnecessary to have maintenance templates? There is already a disclosure of connected contribution on the talk page, is that not enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtFer1 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@ArtFer1: You're still editing the article. - FlightTime (open channel) 16:13, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thats completely contextual, I stopped editing over 2 weeks. It was untouched for two weeks, had 90% of its text removed and it still has the template for non-neutral text and disclosing connected contribution.

You just seem to targeting connected contributors and their contributions. A lot of the text I put in this article is seen in similar hotels articles, yet they remain there, and much of the content of wikipedia is written by paid contributors but they just dont disclose that information.

You will not be impeding connected contribution by heavily editing out every information on the page, you´re only causing future connected conntributors to not disclose the information at all and just do as they please.

Do you not show comprehension and tolerance to connected contributions at all? You´re really only hurting your own community, you and I both know you´re not actually following the spirit of things here.

We should try to find a way to concede both ways, neutrally, not just through the concession of connected contributors. @FlightTime:

 — Preceding unsigned comment added by ArtFer1 (talk • contribs) 16:31, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply] 

You quoted my statement "every single film poster, filmmaking credits on DVDs, and movie information/guide on television" has nothing to do with Wikipedia. However, I was using that as a reference. It seems that the casting order on the Lord of the Rings (film series) page is aimed to correspond to the very things I mentioned. I mention them because it does not correspond accurately, which is what Wikipedia aims to do.

A.L.

75.142.100.7 (talk) 18:01, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Discuss on article's talk page, not here. - FlightTime (open channel) 18:07, 29 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. Still doesn't explain my point about inconsistency. Why are several artists listed with instruments no one ever knew they played (i.e. Liam Gallagher and Ian Brown like I mentioned, plus countless others) without sources? Yet when I tried to do it with one group's members, I get blocked? User talk: Stt13 Stt13 (talk) 10:34, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Stt13: Yeah, I don't know how to explain it, but many artist have instruments listed even if they've never touched it, an example I can give is, having drums listed in Elvis Presley or Michael Jackson infobox is ridiculous, yes, maybe they've sat at a kit once, twice in their career, but..... anyway thanks for your understanding. Happy editing, - FlightTime (open channel) 15:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Why did you undo my revision to The Damned ? I added a citation to the source on which I based the edit... R.F. Groot (talk) 19:38, 30 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The "open channel" part of your signature is way too bright. I checked it using a color contrast ratio gadget, and the result is that it is almost unreadable. The number was 1.4; it should be at least 4.5. —MRD2014 ^{Talk • Edits • Help!} 01:15, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. - FlightTime (open channel) 13:57, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime:

@ArtFer1: You're still editing the article, so when an uninvolved editor determines it's no longer an issue, they can remove the template, end of story. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:02, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Yes sure, end of story, still does not explain some of the behaviour witnessed or some of the issues I mentioned, but I have noticed that furthuring this conversation would only escalate the situation rather than becoming a neutral exchange. Thank you for your time.

@FlightTime:

I noticed you warned Strangeguy91 about his genre warring edits. He is still doing it but on different articles: the grunge, post-grunge, Sixteen Stone and Razorblade Suitcase articles. After being blocked before for the edits he made, he continues to make these edits, ignoring warnings from me, you, and others, and even removing sources, with his edit summaries saying "feels more right" or "better like this". Statik N (talk) 22:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Why do you keep deleting my edits to Newport Folk wikipage? I'm an über fan and this page is majorly out of date.

I added this to sustainability: "The festival has made efforts in being green-friendly, teaming with many groups to do so over the years. They partner with Bike Newport and Spindrift to provide free bike valets to festival attendees – 13% of all festival goers biked to Fort Adams in 2017. Spindrift also underwrites all volunteers to help recycling and composting efforts onsite – resulting in over 2.7 tons of recycling and 2.2 tons of composting in 2017. They also work with Klean Kanteen to provide free water stations – over 6,700 gallons of water resulting in the avoidance of over 72,000 plastic water bottles from ending up in landfills and the ocean in 2017."

That si directly from their recent facebook posts about their 2017 greening efforts. What you have their is inaccurate and out of date.

Please advise.

Folkhistorian (talk) 00:19, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It appears Djfunkfunk has gone ahead and added his changes to Purple Rain (album) without actually getting consensus. Ss112 02:59, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112: Then revert it, this isn't the principal's office. - FlightTime (open channel) 14:49, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Uh, okay? There was no need for the rude comment. I was informing you because I thought you would want to revert it as you told him to seek consensus. Ss112 14:55, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Ss112: Sorry, didn't mean to be rude. I hardly keep track of specific users over a lenth of time, that's more of an admin activity. - FlightTime (open channel) 15:07, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, FlightTime. Your account has been granted the "extendedmover" user right, either following a request for it or demonstrating familiarity with working with article names and moving pages. You are now able to rename pages without leaving behind a redirect, and move subpages when moving the parent page(s).

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If you do not want the page mover right anymore, just let me know, and I'll remove it. Thank you, and happy editing! — xaosflux ^Talk 17:02, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Xaosflux: Thank you, I will be careful. - FlightTime (open channel) 21:36, 8 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Golta (talk) 02:00, 10 September 2017 (UTC)Hello FlightTime. Thank you for your message. The reason I didn't add a reference was that the quotation was part of an already cited material. Please check page 29 of this source(already cited) to find the quote I had added: https://www.scribd.com/doc/35129788/Casey-Affleck-Motion[reply]

I do request that you undo the revision, please. Thank you. (Golta (talk) 02:04, 10 September 2017 (UTC))Golta[reply]

@Golta: Our readers do not know to "look elswhere" for references to verify a claim. Please include a <ref name="" /> with your claim. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:06, 10 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@FlightTime: ^[1] What I meant was that it was already referenced in the same paragraph. But I will add that. Thanks.

Hi FlightTime. I was wondering why you reverted my edit. One part of the edit "after she left the project" is actually incorrect information(date of the quoted email: March 2009, Date of leaving project: April 2009). The other edit is part of the email exchange and balances both sides. It is important in terms of how the plaintiff had behaved before resigning. This is an important issue and I think the addition was correctly cited and fair. Thank you! --Golta (talk) 02:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Golta[reply]

@Golta: I already gave my reason for my revert in the edit summary. - FlightTime (open channel) 02:39, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I understand that you're busy but can you respond to what I wrote here, please? Part of my edit was to correct an incorrect piece of information. It's easily verifiable. The other, in my opinion, is not trivia at all. The argument presented against the plaintiff is that she had never complained about work environment before. My addition, which was cited, suggested that she had. I hope you don't mind me messaging you again, but the current version is not correct and neutral. Do you mind if I edit it in another way? Thank you. --Golta (talk) 02:44, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Golta[reply]

@Golta: I reverted your edit as non-notable trivia. You can start a discussion on the articles talk page and see if you can gain consensus. - FlightTime (open channel) 03:00, 12 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your response. Can I edit the incorrect info? I will do what you suggested about the other part. I'm sorry about the back and forth and appreciate the response. --Golta (talk) 03:09, 12 September 2017 (UTC)Golta[reply]

Please explain why this, this, this, this and this is not a violation of the three revert rule and why I do not have a cast-iron policy based reason to block you? Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:16, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The user was blocked by Oshwah for consistently adding unsourced date changes after numerous warnings to stop doing so. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:21, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NOTTHEM Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 09:57, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hi my friend, you warned me that I may be blocked for put some information in Malaimagen without source. The links that I put aren't considered sources? I create the page, so obviously im not a vandal, as you can see...--Sarmiento 007 (talk) 03:22, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

@Sarmiento 007: I have no idea what edit you're referring to. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:25, 11 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It was this one. Ritchie333 ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:17, 14 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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