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Alex Shih (talk) 00:02, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Of course in no way shape or form expected, but if you have a spare moment would you mind looking at my first A-class nom? I'd be happy to review any nomination in return. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 23:10, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddie891. It has been a long time since I have been involved in A-class and FA nominations, so I may have to brush up a little, but more than happy to take a look - Dumelow (talk) 08:43, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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"The 2018 expeditions mapped more than 2 kilometres (1.2 mi) of new passages in the cave and discovered several promising leads for new explorations." I am not sure this is right - the reference doesn't say in which caves the extensions were found. It would probably be more accurate to say that 2018 expedition found a further 2 kilometres of cave whilst looking for a connection between B and V".

Thanks for spotting this Langcliffe - it is beyond my normal area of expertise. I've reworded it to hopefully solve this problem, would you mind taking another look to check? Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 12:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good! Langcliffe (talk) 13:20, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi…your article British ambulances in the Franco-Prussian War, reminded me of a relative of Lister called Marcus Beck, who was part of the Anglo-American ambulance team to Sedan and had reported in 1870, that the French failed to adopt antiseptic measures during the Franco-Prussian War. Beck became one of Lister's stoutest defenders during the controversy over the introduction of the antiseptic technique in surgery. During the Franco-Prussian War, he accompanied in July 1870 an Anglo-American ambulance team to Sedan, where he witnessed the ravages of war and reported that French surgeons refused to adopt Lister's antiseptic method in the management of war wounds. ([1][2])

	The Writer's Barnstar
	Your articles have been a delight to my days, particularly trees, cats and the Franco-Prussian War. Well done and thank you! Whispyhistory (talk) 18:05, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good find Whispyhistory. I've added the above info and some other interesting snippets to the article. Glad you've enjoyed reading my articles, I've certainly enjoyed writing them! I'll try to keep it up, many thanks for the barnstar - Dumelow (talk) 22:08, 8 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya,

Just to let you know I'll make the scans of that article for you when I'm next at the British Library on Saturday 19th. Annoyingly if I'd managed to see your request sooner, you'd have had the scans already as I was literally in the building dropping something off for a colleague last Saturday. I've gone and requested all the 1998 issues, so if there's anything else in those that you'd like, then let me know and I'll scan them as well. I use a scanning app called Turboscan on my phone which corrects the perspective and fixes the contrast to make the text easier to read, as well as converting it to PDFs for easy viewing. Once I've got the scans, I'll be in touch. Miyagawa (talk) 11:08, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miyagawa, many thanks for offering to help with this. I had a quick look and the following from 1998 sound interesting, if you get chance:

• Art and disguise : Australian artists and the camouflage unit
• An Australian 'officer-type' ? : a demographic study of the composition of officers in the 1st Battalion, First AIF
• The Governor's Body Guard of Light Horse 1801 - 1834
• Australia and the American civil war

Thanks again for being so helpful, much appreciated - Dumelow (talk) 16:17, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No problem, I'll get those scanned. Miyagawa (talk) 22:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Miyagawa. Did you manage to get a look at these? No worries if not, it'll keep! - Dumelow (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've got the scans in PDF, just forgot to send them over. What's the easiest way to get them to you? Miyagawa (talk) 18:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Miyagawa. If you could send them by email that'd be great. I've sent you a message so you should now have my email address. All the best Dumelow (talk) 18:55, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi! Is there any chance you have access to the full version this article from Proceedings of the Institution of Civil Engineers and if so that you could email me a copy to hjmwiki at gmail dot com? I'm in the process of writing Old Exe Bridge and citations to that paper keep cropping up. Thanks! HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 14:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi HJ Mitchell, good to hear from you. Annoyingly ICE members only get digital access to the last three years of the proceedings and to anything published before 1900. I should be able to get access the physical copies at the library but unfortunately I am not planning on being in London any time soon. I've dropped the library staff an email to see if somebody can send me a copy. Will keep you informed, cheers - Dumelow (talk)

Harry, they came back quicker than I thought. I've sent it to what I think is your email address. Let me know if it hasn't come through, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 18:09, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I've got it. Thanks very much for that! I owe you one. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts? 18:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow, hope you had a good festive season. My new project for 2019 is to create articles for the remaining 100 or so cricketers who have represented the Army, RAF and RN in first-class cricket. I wonder if there's a way to intergrate this somehow with the military project, so as and when they're created, they can be checked over to see anything can be expanded on the military side? Hopefully come across a few more interesting ones like there were with the Irish cricketers. StickyWicket (talk) 22:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi StickyWicket. More than happy to help out, I'm sure there'll be a few interesting stories to be told. If you ping me when you start a new article I'll try to pull everything in from the Gazette at least. As to getting wider feedback I usually just post similar requests to the MILHIST talk page but I guess it could get quite overloaded at the rate you produce articles! Maybe just list them all under one talk page section? - Dumelow (talk) 07:54, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Awesome stuff! I'll see if I can add them here. I've set myself that target of creating them all before the year is out, but I'd imagine my progress will be slow as I have loads of studying to do. Oh, just wondering if you have a resource for Sandhurst graduates? Lionel Bostock is the first guy I chose at random to start and this source says he attended Sandhurst, but isn't specific as to whether it's the academy or college. StickyWicket (talk) 17:16, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It would be the college. The academy was formed in 1947 as a merger of the college and the academy at Woolwich. I've stuck the usual promotions and awards from the gazette and a few other mentions on the talk page for now, I'll try to get around to integrating them into the article later on - Dumelow (talk) 17:57, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for clearing that up, I always assumed they were two separate establishments. Just went to add a bit more to Bostock's article and saw you've done a fine job! Her's a Barnstar for doing an awesome job with the obscure military cricketers!

		Cricket Barnstar
		For helping to expand obscure first-class cricketers with a military background. Well done! StickyWicket (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Many thanks for the barnstar, been great fun working on these chaps - Dumelow (talk) 22:54, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 00:02, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow. Here's the latest military cricketer. I've pulled what I could find from the gazette, but I feel there's more out there about him as his career was from 1929 to 1963! He was seconded from the RA in 1939, but I can't find where to, plus he later served as an aide-de-camp to the Queen by 1960, but I can't find the date he took up his post. All the best, StickyWicket (talk) 22:25, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi StickyWicket. I'll take a proper look tomorrow but I just found an interesting note that he poached Tom Cartwright for the RA team when he came up for national service. He commanded the garrison at Woolwich towards the end of his career and ran some sort of business from home in his retirement. I'll keep digging, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 22:53, 14 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, that's really interesting. I wondered what he'd been up too in the 1950s! I'm starting on a player who I think was a victim of the Wormhoudt massacre, so he should be an interesting one. StickyWicket (talk) 22:02, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Think I've done as much as I can with Garthwaite for now. Looks like you are getting on well with Michael Magill and Charles Orton (who I guess is you Wormhoudt victim?), I'll try to take a look at these soon - Dumelow (talk) 00:08, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, I've made a start on Orton. Though not 100% certain he was murdered by the SS, the book source I used seems fairly certain he was, while leaving open the possibility he was KIA. StickyWicket (talk) 18:22, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 15 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Panyd^{The muffin is not subtle} 00:01, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Land mines in the Falkland Islands at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Specifically, it's mostly waiting on the QPQ, after which I think you'll be good to go with the penguin hook. For the record, the BBC's "The penguins that would not explode" might be the "hookiest" source title I've ever seen cited. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 14:28, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the notification Squeamish Ossifrage. I have a few QPQs I need to catch up on, I'll try to sort one out in the next day or so. Glad you enjoyed the article, I enjoyed writing it! - Dumelow (talk) 15:26, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Absolutely. Feel free to ping me when the QPQ is done so I can be sure to get the DYK nom updated. Squeamish Ossifrage (talk) 16:06, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Per this and this - Dumelow (talk) 22:39, 17 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow. I've added the cricket info for the above guy, and his graduation from RMA Woolwich. But he seems to have disappeared on the Gazette and other sources after that. Apparently, he was a POW in Hong Kong during WWII. I think his father is also a Lt Col of the same name appearing in dispatches in 1917, but I can't prove it! StickyWicket (talk) 17:27, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@AssociateAffiliate: Here you go:

• Promoted to lieutenant
• Promoted to captain
• Appointed adjutant of the 48th (South Midland) Division Engineers
• Promoted to major
• Retired and granted honorary rank of lieutenant-colonel
• Ceased to belong to the reserves

I see what you mean by the father - the Service Corps chap with the same initials? Apparently his father was an Army Medical Service surgeon, the Service Corps guy married Ida Macdonald on 24 April 1902 which would tie in with our man's date of birth - Dumelow (talk) 17:56, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Our Grose was chairman of the Tunbridge Wells hopsital Group from at least 1966 to at least 1970 and at that time lived in Edenbridge. He was with the Hong Kong garrison by 8 December 1941 commanding 22nd Fortress Company of the Royal Engineers. He became a member of the Bristol and Wessex Aeroplane Club in 1936 - Dumelow (talk) 18:24, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He's described as a "fine wicket keeper and opening bat" and there's a photo of him in 1933 - Dumelow (talk) 18:33, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He was repatriated to Manila in September 1945, having been interned by the Japanese at Baguio, Phillipines. Think that's everything I can find on him - Dumelow (talk) 18:41, 18 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for that! I've added some of the sources to the article. I wonder if you could add the source for his repatriation to Manila? I can't access the article as it's a subscription only page :( StickyWicket (talk) 17:12, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I wonder if he died at Royal Tunbridge Wells and not Tonbridge, as suggested by CricketArchive? Being chairman of the Tunbridge Wells Hospital Group just prior to his death, I'd hazard a guess Tunbridge and Tonbridge have been confused? StickyWicket (talk) 17:40, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've added the missing ref. With Newspapers.com you can get the raw OCRed text if you click the drop down arrow just underneath the image. Usually its legible enough to make out the meaning, if not I just drop the friendly guys at WP:REX a quick request. I am not sure about the Tunbridge/Tonbridge. They are only 4 miles apart so its conceivable that he lived in one and commuted to the other - Dumelow (talk) 22:22, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding that. I thought the two were at opposite sides of Kent, ashamedly for someone who prides themselves on being hot on geography!!! I'm a bit snowed under with uni assignments at the moment, but hope to be back on it soon! Henslow looks an interesting chap! StickyWicket (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Just sticking these here so I can add them later:

• https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=bE5-AwAAQBAJ&pg=PA259&dq=%22E.+L.+W.+Henslow%22+-wiki*&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj96PSe84DgAhXMsaQKHTaVDfQQ6AEIKjAA#v=onepage&q=%22E.%20L.%20W.%20Henslow%22%20-wiki*&f=false
• https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=uwWIhImk0zwC&pg=PA85&dq=%22E.+L.+W.+Henslow%22+-wiki*&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj96PSe84DgAhXMsaQKHTaVDfQQ6AEIMDAB#v=onepage&q=%22E.%20L.%20W.%20Henslow%22%20-wiki*&f=false
• https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=-5NADwAAQBAJ&pg=PA78&dq=%22E.+L.+W.+Henslow%22+-wiki*&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj96PSe84DgAhXMsaQKHTaVDfQQ6AEIOTAD#v=onepage&q=%22E.%20L.%20W.%20Henslow%22%20-wiki*&f=false (also page 211 Henslow Room)
• https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=GRnzAAAAMAAJ&q=%22E.+L.+W.+Henslow%22+-wiki*&dq=%22E.+L.+W.+Henslow%22+-wiki*&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj96PSe84DgAhXMsaQKHTaVDfQQ6AEITTAH

Think I've done all I can for Henslow. You might be able to dig up some cricketty bits though? - Dumelow (talk) 16:56, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a little bit more about his minor counties cricket. There's not too much about his cricket, but I did find a number of photos of Henslow, including one dated from 1912 when he was in the regimental team that played at W. H. Laverton's Ground.[3] W. H. Laverton was apparently an old Wiltshire Regiment man, though I can't see his military career alone makes him notable enough for an article. Good work on that though :) StickyWicket (talk) 21:54, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'm glad W. H. Laverton's Ground was mentioned, because its exact location wasn't known. So I had a look at some old OS maps dated 1901 and discovered that W. H. Laverton's Ground and the present day Wellhead Lane are one and the same! CricketArchive and Cricinfo list them separately, so I'm not sure why they haven't made the link before now!!! StickyWicket (talk) 22:11, 24 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Nice work! Think you are right about Laverton, unless they made it to general rank it is hard to prove notability purely from the military side of things. He does seem to have been a reasonably prolific philanthropist though (he is connected to arms houses and a swimming baths) - Dumelow (talk) 08:12, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I'll certainly mention him when I expand that ground! My next one I've made a start on is Lionel Collins, looks interesting just from this. StickyWicket (talk) 22:07, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Per this and this - Dumelow (talk) 22:13, 20 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow. Just pulling some info from the Gazette on this guy. It seems he was an OBE by 1925, but for the life of me I can't find anything in the Gazette from 1919-1925 that says anything about him being in the NY or Birthday Honours. I wonder if you might have more luck! StickyWicket (talk) 12:51, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Narrowed it down a little. He had it by the time he was appointed assistant military secretary in 1922. I'll keep looking - Dumelow (talk) 21:53, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Here you go: August 1920 in the honours following the Third Anglo-Afghan War. Nice work, the article is looking good. I'll try to find something to add to it - Dumelow (talk) 22:03, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A few tidbits:

• second son was born at Quetta, India, 13 November 1918 (page x)
• two sons (Peter Rutherford Collins b.1911 and John Humphrey Collins b. 1918), Daughter Rosemary Emily Collins (page 406)
• "In India, in February 1904, Mr. Lionel P. COllins, the Old Marlburian, three times made two separate hundreds in a match within a space of ten days, scoring quite without parallel in the history of the game. He made his runs whilst on tour with the Gurkha Brigade" (page 107)

I'll try to work these in tomorrow, unles you get around to it before I do - Dumelow (talk) 22:24, 27 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dumelow. I've expanded him some more today, so I think there's not much more to add! StickyWicket (talk) 19:44, 29 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:02, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I plan to work on the article Ode of Remembrance a fair amount in the months to come. I am American, and was curious if you could briefly provide some context about it. Also if you have any sources, please let me know. I have sent for "Laurence Binyon : poet, scholar of East and West" already. Of course, nothing is expected, but anything you might have to add is greatly appreciated. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 00:42, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddie891. Looks like an interesting topic to work on (I wrote the somewhat related known unto God recently). I can honestly say that I have only ever heard the third and fourth verses, which are used at remembrance events - though this is almost always the fourth verse alone. In my experience it is generally read by the person leading the service (often a vicar or similar) and follows the last post and minutes silence. The last line is repeated by the audience (with the emphasis on the "will", as if it were an oath). I would say the fourth verse is known by the majority of the population and you see it sometimes reproduced in full or part on war memorials, plaques etc. I vaguely recall reading about the dispute over whether it should have been "contemn" rather than "condemn" but I have only ever seen/heard the latter. Not sure I have much in the way of sources for this one but more than happy to chip in and help when you get started on it, drop me a quick reminder when you do. Sorry I couldn't be of much help, good luck! - Dumelow (talk) 15:01, 2 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow. I've started an article on Guy Gregson-Ellis, another first-class military cricketer. Having searched the archive and expecting a name like to be rare, I wasn't expecting it to return no results! Some sites name him at George Saxon Llewellyn Gregson-Ellis, but even then I can get no results. He clearly had a few mentions in the Gazette (plus an MC decoration) again by this. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong in the search parameter to return no result?! StickyWicket (talk) 16:36, 6 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi StickyWicket. I did a search on "Gregson-Ellis" and limited the date to 1911-1950 and got the following:

• Promotion to lieutenant (temporary rank)
• Permanent rank of lieutenant
• Promotion antedated
• Promotion to temporary captain
• Relinquished temporary rank (was MC by this time)
• Promoted captain (permanent rank)
• Appointed adjutant
• Ceased to be adjutant
• Retired
• Ceased to belong to the reserves
• Seems to have returned to service and was promoted brevet major
• Ceases to be liable to recall once again (had received the war substantive rank of Major by this time) and is granted honorary rank of lieutenant-colonel

Still looking to track down his MC, there is probably a smudge on the page that is confusing the Gazette's OCR reader - Dumelow (talk) 09:20, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Found it in the birthday honours 1916, his name was split over two lines so it didn't get picked up in the search - Dumelow (talk) 09:29, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

He gets a mention in this regimental history for actions in reorganising the 2nd battalion after losses in action on the first day of the Somme. His MC is shown here for interest - Dumelow (talk) 09:36, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Dumelow: thanks for those, I can only assume the Gazette search was down when I looked as I also searched in the same way and nothing! I've added those sources to the article now. Thanks again :) StickyWicket (talk) 14:33, 7 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Amakuru (talk · contribs) 00:01, 8 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I completed a review at Template:Did you know nominations/Lionel Bostock, and noted a question for you. Please respond there when you are able. Cheers, Flibirigit (talk) 22:14, 9 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow. I've created articles on an RN man Richard Borgnis (he retired from the RN in 1938 on account of ill health, but died in 2001! Can't find much on his between those two dates. CricketArchive says he was made an MBE for services to cricket in the 1990 New Years Honours, but I can't find anything on that in the gazette - I wonder if they're mistaken?) and Richard Peck, a current living major-general. All of the latters gazette stuff is in the article - though if I have the terms right is another thing! I'll leave them in your capable hands to see what more you might dig up! StickyWicket (talk) 17:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Not come up with much on Borgnis, though he is said to have later gone by Hammond-Chambers-Borgnis. He is mentioned in the Times Literary Supplement in 1982 "Where is Lt R. P. Hammond-Chambers Borgnis (Wisden doesn’t give him nearly so many names) who made 101 on his first-class debut, for Combined Services v New Zealand at Portsmouth In 1937. Killed in action? In retirement in Devonshire? Like Hamlet’s father they cry to us, remember me." in a review of a Bill Frindall stats book. I couldn't find anyone of a similar name mentioned for services to cricket in the new years or birthday honours of 1989 through 1991. Looks like he may have just vanished into obscurity - Dumelow (talk) 14:17, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

With regards Peck there's a little on his role in the lead up to Desert Storm and he is a trustee of the Lord Kitchener Memorial Fund (a university scholarship for armed services members or children), apart from that not much on him either I'm afraid - Dumelow (talk) 14:24, 13 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think you're right about Borgnis, he seems to disappear before reappearing in France 60 years later! Thanks for getting some more bits for Peck's article, I'll add it in. I've hit a brick wall with a military guy! John Carr (father of the Test cricketer Donald Carr) seems to have done a Borgnis on the Gazette and vanished into obscurity. He served in the Berks Regiment in WWII, by 1915 he was a lieutenant on half-pay due to illness. Searching his full name brings up one match. Searching "John L Carr" also has the one match. Searching "J L Carr" and limiting it to just the war beings up 1848430028 results! A source suggests he later reached Lt. Col. Any way you know of narrowing this guy with all his generic search features down? All the best. StickyWicket (talk) 17:58, 14 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi StickyWicket. Strange, I searched "J. L. Carr" and go 43 results from 1914 to 1950 - the Gazette search engine is strange sometimes. Thought there's a couple of other officers with the same initials. Here's a few key ones:

• Promotion to lieutenant
• restored to active duty from halp-pay
• Promoted to the temporary rank of major, serving in one of the regiment's service battalions (Kitchener's Army).
• left the service battalion (presumably it had been disbanded) and reverted to his substantive rank of captain
• appointed brigade major
• ceased to be brigade major
• appointed adjutant
• seconded to the Territorial Army
• Returned to his regiment
• promoted major
• retired
• seniority backdated
• reached age limit and grantd honorary rank of lieutenant-colonel

At some point between July 1916 and June 1918 he was promoted to captain. I'll see if I can find it, though sometimes there are errors in scanning by the Gazette that prevent you from finding it on the search - Dumelow (talk) 09:19, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I coudln't find his promotion but did find that he was already a captain by 7 September 1917 when he was granted the temporary rank of major - Dumelow (talk) 09:30, 17 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think the Gazette search engine has it in for me! I've come across a few chaps lately with gaps between promotions, "at some point he was promoted to blah" does the trick! I've given a hand doing some non-military guys and found they were military! Thanks for your help once again. StickyWicket (talk) 20:17, 18 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Good work on the DYK for Guy Dury DBigXrayᗙ 19:38, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! Though StickyWicket deserves most of the credit for this one - Dumelow (talk) 19:56, 12 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow -- Fascinating article, thanks (I used to work round the corner). I have a couple of concerns one about minor close paraphrasing issues, the other about Ref 3 (the UCL blog). Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 04:41, 19 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow. Just wondering if you can help? The above cricketer and RAF man was awarded the DFC and AFC, I'm just wondering if there's a resource avaliable that describes the actions that led to the awards? The DFC in particular was awarded during WWII. Thanks. StickyWicket (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've never had much luck with citations where they aren't quoted in the Gazette. I think in theory they are held in the national archives and they have a guide on searching for gallantry medal citations but I don't think I have ever found anything came up in the search. I may be doing it wrong - Dumelow (talk) 21:58, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Dumelow. I didn't have any luck either, 4 results returned, none relevant :( StickyWicket (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow. While getting on with my military cricketers project I created an article for the Combined Services cricketer Duncan Smith CA page (one FC appearance in 1947). Strangely nothing is known about him, beyond his name and that he served in the RAF. His appearance in scorecards as "Duncan Smith" made me wonder if he could be W. G. G. Duncan Smith, who served in the RAF at exactly the same time, though I'm not finding much to back up my theory. Wondering if you might be able to dig something that I've missed that up backs up my eureka moment (or destroys it!) as to whether these two are one and the same. PS: I've checked the Gazette, but it's a bit of a needle in a haystack! Thanks :) StickyWicket (talk) 22:28, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Solved. A user at WP:CRIC looked into this and discovered my Duncan Smith was a Yorkshireman completely unrelated to W. G. G.! Damn, there goes that eureka! StickyWicket (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Righto, good work! - Dumelow (talk) 12:57, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Dumelow, it's been a while. Hope all is well. I've created an article on Julian Jefferson and wondered if you might be interested in seeing if there's anymore military stuff that can be dug up on him? He was a temporary brigadier by the end of WWII and was the commander of British forces in the North Caribbean. Not too sure in the grand scheme of things how major an appointment that was. All the best. StickyWicket (talk) 15:51, 15 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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valereee (talk) 00:01, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

... to honour a mute swan rescued from a town boatyard, covered in oil with the assistance of a council gardener in the early 1950s.

Gardeners cover swans in oil? How rude!

Could you and/or others come up with a better formulation for this event? Perhaps along the lines of

... to honour a mute swan covered in oil, rescued from a town boatyard, with the assistance of a council gardener in the early 1950s.

Shenme (talk) 02:29, 20 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Looks like somebody else has already fixed this, cheers - Dumelow (talk) 07:16, 22 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Dumelow! Could you help me track down the promotions of Fabian Ware through the Gazette? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:48, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddie891. I think I have them all, except possibly his relinquishing of commission during WWII, though these are not always listed. I've included listings for his service in the Transvaal and various honours:

• [4] 17 June 1903 appointed a member of the legislative council of the colony of Transvaal
• [5] appointed temporary major 22 May 1915
• [6] above appointment antedated to 22 February 1915
• [7] Promoted from temp major to temp lt-col 11 February 1916
• [8] appointed director at the war office 15 May 1916 (Director of Graves Registration and Enquiries)
• [9] Granted rank of Brig-Gen whilst serving as director 12 August 1916
• [10] Companion Order of St Michael and St George New Years Honours 1917
• [11] Authority to wear insignia of Commander of Ordre de la Couronne September 1917
• [12] Appointed director-general with temp rank of major-general 7 October 1918
• [13] Companion Order of the Bath New Years Honours 1919
• [14] mentioned in dispatches by Douglas Haig 10 April 1919
• [15] Knight Commander of the Order of the British Empire February 1920
• [16] relinquishes commission and granted honorary rank of maj-gen 1 March 1921
• [17] Knight Commander Royal Victorian Order May 1922
• [18] Authority to wear insignia of commander of Legion of Honour January 1934
• [19] Ditto, grand officer December 1938
• [20] Recalled from retired list to serve as a director-general on the staff 30 August 1939
• [21] Granted an emergency commission with the honorary rank of Major General 3 September 1939

Hope that helps - Dumelow (talk) 15:16, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

It does greatly, but is there an order in between here and here that I missed which made the brigadier general appointment permanent? Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 19:01, 23 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I've had another look but couldn't find anything, sorry - Dumelow (talk) 08:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 and Peacemaker67 look at Italian, German and Australian forces in World War II

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In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be ready to move into the mainspace and nom for DyK if you want. Things I could use help on: 1) finding a copy of the treaty in English. 2) figuring out who Queen Luisa refers to. Let me know what you think. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:35, 22 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddie891, excellent work. Sorry I've not been of much use; I am nowhere near as active as previously. I've found a source that states it was Luise of Prussia and added a link to the text of the treaty in French and Russian (no English translation alas). I'll look to move it across today if I get chance, many thanks - Dumelow (talk) 08:06, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

The Consolidated Treaty Series only had the treaty in French and Russian as well - shame. . . At least what I got through WP:REX though our Wikipedia article on the series maintains it has “English translations as required”. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 17:04, 23 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I also think The Impact of Napoleon: Prussian High Politics, Foreign Policy and the Crisis of the Executive, 1797-1806 probably has enough information to merit an ILL request, which I will put in. However, this could take 4-6 weeks because my local library is notoriously slow. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:53, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Eddie891, I didn't get around to moving it. More than happy to wait for you to review the above source before I move it across. I'll do some tinkering around the edges in the meantime! - Dumelow (talk) 21:30, 24 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I have created it- more improvements to come, of course, but pretty much everything I could find has been added. Feel free to dyk nom if you want, and I feel we both deserve to claim points for it in the Backlog Banzi. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 13:50, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Eddie891, excellent work. I've nommed it at Template:Did you know nominations/Treaty of Potsdam (1805). I'll stick it on my Backlog Banzai worklist but if there's any disputes I am more than happy for the points to go to you - Dumelow (talk) 08:17, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I haven't been that active these past couple weeks-- I've been swamped with work Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:12, 14 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:37, 1 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for creating Treaty of Potsdam (1805).

User:Onel5969 while examining this page as a part of our page curation process had the following comments:

Very nice job on this article.

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Thanks User:Onel5969. User:Eddie891 did almost all the work on this one and deserves this credit! - Dumelow (talk) 07:50, 2 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Treaty of Potsdam (1805) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Nsk92 (talk) 23:11, 5 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow; forgive me if this was intended on your part, but Catherine Lutz (general) does not have any categories. Just in case you missed them off. Happy editing and regards. The joy of all things (talk) 15:53, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Doh! Thanks for letting me know - Dumelow (talk) 16:00, 6 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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DESiegel • Jake Wartenberg • Rjanag • Topbanana

CheckUser changes

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Oversight changes

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Technical news

• Editors using the mobile website on Wikipedia can opt-in to new advanced features via your settings page. This will give access to more interface links, special pages, and tools.
• The advanced version of the edit review pages (recent changes, watchlist, and related changes) now includes two new filters. These filters are for "All contents" and "All discussions". They will filter the view to just those namespaces.

Arbitration

• A request for comment is open to provide an opportunity to amend the structure, rules, and procedures of the 2019 English Wikipedia Arbitration Committee election and to resolve any issues not covered by existing rules.

Miscellaneous

• A global request for comment is in progress regarding whether a user group should be created that could modify edit filters across all public Wikimedia wikis.

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valereee (talk) 00:03, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Women's Defence Relief Corps at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Kosack (talk) 20:16, 15 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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valereee (talk) 12:02, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about that, didn't know, thought it was just leftover from a previous edit! --valereee (talk) 20:43, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

No worries, it's usually me tripping up over American/Canadian/Australian English. Glad you enjoyed the article! - Dumelow (talk) 20:44, 16 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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		For scoring 2,288 points in the WikiProject Military history September 2019 edit-a-thon Backlog Banzai, I hereby award you the WikiProject Barnstar. Well done! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:39, 2 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, a new criterion for speedy category renaming was added: C2F: One eponymous article, which applies if the category contains only an eponymous article or media file, provided that the category has not otherwise been emptied shortly before the nomination. The default outcome is an upmerge to the parent categories.

Technical news

• As previously noted, tighter password requirements for Administrators were put in place last year. Wikipedia should now alert you if your password is less than 10 characters long and thus too short.

Arbitration

• The 2019 CheckUser and Oversight appointment process has begun. The community consultation period will take place October 4th to 10th.
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Miscellaneous

• The Community Tech team has been working on a system for temporarily watching pages, and welcomes feedback.

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Hello, I see a lot of problems with Queen Mamea. As a person who has read up on Tahitian history, I can see so much holes in these stories from the 19th-century. Raiatea and Huahine were separate entities during the late 19th-century with their own lines of kings and queens. "Oscar Tomare" sounds like a misspelling of Oscar Pomare (no such person to my knowledge). The story about Macello seems too sensational. Cannibalism was not common in the Society Islands and would have been outlawed earlier under the missionary influenced kings and queens of the early 1800s. A rebel queen did exist in the 1890s but her name was Tuarii. All the sources are from the period and written in English and seems to be all hearsay. KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:14, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi KAVEBEAR, thanks for getting in touch. I don't have any real knowledge of the area or period (I wrote this as part of a project to write an article about a woman from every country in the world, to try to broaden my horizons). All of the sources are contemporary and I couldn't find any modern sources discussing Mamea. I am more than happy for you to bring you expertise to the article. Feel free to make whatever changes you consider necessary, perhaps it needs to be amended to read "alleged to" or "reputedly" or something? - Dumelow (talk) 07:43, 7 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! Your submission of Ramatoulie DK Sanneh at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Yoninah (talk) 00:19, 8 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I've given your DYK nomination a tick but on review have just realised that it is some characters short of the 5x expansion. Could you expand to 5x. Interesting article. Papamac (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Papamac, thanks for your review and glad you enjoyed the article. Are you sure? I count 250 characters of text on 4 October (it was only two sentences long) and more than 2700 now. I can look again but i think I have pretty much exhausted the sources available - Dumelow (talk) 18:53, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Mea culpa! It is a more than 10x expansion. All well. I confused it with another DYK nomination I'm looking at. Apologies. Papamac (talk) 19:40, 10 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, I don't know if you've noticed, but I've been spending time fixing your URLs on all your DYK nominations so I can view them in my country. Your browser automatically views pages in "google.co.uk"; you need to manually change the URL to "google.com" so users in other countries can see the page. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:16, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Yoninah. I didn't realise this was an issue, either .com or .co.uk works for me. I'll try to remember to convert to .com in the future. If this is a common problem it seems like it would be worth tasking a bot with converting all urls? I suspect there must be tens of thousands across the encyclopaedia - Dumelow (talk) 08:01, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, there is a bot, but it takes a long time to get to it. Pages that I created years ago are only now being fixed. This is the way google.com works: it automatically converts to "co.uk" in your country and "co.il" in my country so we can each view the page on our computers. But if I click on a "co.uk" link in your article, I get a truncated site and cannot view the whole page normally. Best, Yoninah (talk) 13:23, 3 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2019).

Guideline and policy news

• An RfC was closed with the consensus that the resysop criteria should be made stricter.

• The follow-up RfC to develop that change is now open at Wikipedia:Requests for comment/2019 Resysop Criteria (2).

• A related RfC is seeking the community's sentiment for a binding desysop procedure.

Arbitration

• Eligible editors may now nominate themselves as candidates for the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections. The self-nomination period will close November 12, with voting running from November 19 through December 2.

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Gatoclass (talk) 00:01, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Dumelow. I'm reviewing Retentions in the British construction industry for DYK. I've run out of time to put my review comments, so these will follow this evening; but the only issue I've noted so far is a 403 error with ref [2]. I will check again on my home PC tonight.

In connection with the first paragraph of "Impact": not required for the DYK nom, but a possible addition. I am familiar with the receivables finance industry, and the construction industry is generally considered unfactorable specifically because of retentions (also known in this context as stage payments). This is another reason why it is beneficial to use retentions held from other contractors in the chain to finance working capital requirements. If you can find any references for this, it may be worth mentioning briefly; the Asset Based Finance Association website might be a good place to start. Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 14:12, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Hassocks5489, thanks for reviewing - I know it's not the most exciting of topics! Good shout on factoring, I've not had any experience of this but I found a couple of references that mention it and added it as an impact. Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 14:50, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Forgot to say the Construction Index main page and the specific article linked are working fine for me, hopefully it's sorted itself out for you? - Dumelow (talk) 14:52, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, back up and running now; probably a temporary glitch! Although not the most immediately eyecatching subject matter, I found it a very useful article in explaining the "what, how and why", so to speak. In the receivables finance industry it just seems to be one of those pieces of conventional wisdom that construction can't be factored; but not working on the front line, as it were, I was never very clear on why retentions were seemingly such an intrinsic part of the construction industry and how this was dealt with. Good stuff! Cheers, Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 22:38, 5 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Glad you found the article useful, thanks for your help on this one - Dumelow (talk) 08:47, 8 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2019).

Administrator changes

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CheckUser changes

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Interface administrator changes

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Guideline and policy news

• An RfC on the administrator resysop criteria was closed. 18 proposals have been summarised with a variety of supported and opposed statements. The inactivity grace period within which a new request for adminship is not required has been reduced from three years to two. Additionally, Bureaucrats are permitted to use their discretion when returning administrator rights.
• Following a proposal, the edit filter mailing list has been opened up to users with the Edit Filter Helper right.

Technical news

• Wikimedia projects can set a default block length for users via MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry. A new page, MediaWiki:ipb-default-expiry-ip, allows the setting of a different default block length for IP editors. Neither is currently used. (T219126)

Arbitration

• Voting in the 2019 Arbitration Committee Elections is open to eligible editors until Monday 23:59, 2 December 2018 UTC. Please review the candidates and, if you wish to do so, submit your choices on the voting page.

Miscellaneous

• The global consultation on partial and temporary office actions that ended in October received a closing statement from staff concluding, among other things, that the WMF will no longer use partial or temporary Office Action bans... until and unless community consensus that they are of value or Board directive.

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