User talk:Dom497/Archive/July - December 2013

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	WikiProject Amusement Parks Newsletter Quarter 3, 2013	463	124	5.13	50	30%	» Full edition
		Unassessed Articles	Coordinates Needed	WikiWork Load	Project Members	B&M articles are GA or FA

--EdwardsBot (talk) 20:50, 5 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497! We've just deployed some fixes to the VisualEditor. These include:

• "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you're looking at (bug 49943)
• "Edit" will load the latest version, not the version you edited last time if this is your second edit (bug 50441)
• VE edit section links will load the latest, not original, version in diff view preview (bug 50925)
• <big><big>Foo</big></big> and similar repeated tags will not get corrupted any more (bug 49755)

In the meantime, testing is proceeding well, and hopefully we can get some more fixes out over the next couple of days. If you're interested in helping out, we have a set of open tasks we'd really appreciate your assistance with :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:08, 9 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497

We just deployed another VisualEditor release; bugs fixed include:

• Firefox 13/14 has been temporarily blacklisted, to avoid the insertion of broken links [[./that look like this]] (50720)
• Changing a reference in a template should no longer produce the bright red "you don't have a references block!" error (bugzilla:50423)
• Notices are now shown if you're editing a protected or semi-protected page (bugzilla:50415)
• The template inspector will no longer invite you to insert parameters that are already being used (50715)
• Same as above, but with aliases (50717)
• Parameter names in the template dialogue now word-wrap (50800)
• The link inspector will not show in the top left if you hit the return key while opening it (49941)
• Hitting return twice in the link editor will no longer introduce a new line that overwrites the link (51075)
• Oddly-named categories no longer cause corruption (50702)
• The toolbar no longer occasionally covers the cursor (48787)
• Changing the formatting of text no longer occasionally scrolls you upwards (50792)

Not specific bugs, but other things; cacheing is now improved, so people should stop seeing temporary breaking when the VisualEditor updates, and RTL support has received some patches. I hope this newsletter is helpful to people; I'll send out another one with the next deployment :). Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 10:18, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497! Another set of patches :). Today we have:

• Required template parameters are now automatically added to new templates (50747)
• Templates with piped links now display correctly when you alter them (50801)
• If your edit token expires, you're now informed of it (50424).

  You still won't be able to save - that's due to be fixed on Monday :).

More on Monday, I suspect. Hope you have a good weekend :). I should also have some news about the IP launch pretty soon. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 13:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

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A file that you uploaded or altered, File:Bolliger & Mabillard Logo.gif, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 08:00, 14 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497; hope you had a decent weekend :). We've got a pile of patches, some of which went out on Monday, some yesterday:

• If you insert wikitext such as links or section headers, you get a notice in the top right corner (over the save button). It doesn't go away until click, though once dismissed you don't get another one that edit. (49820)
• If your edit token expires, VE fetches a new one for you so you can save. (50424)
• If the page is empty of content but does have something non-content (like a category or an HTML comment), VE no longer crashes on load - (50289)
• sub tags are no longer removed ((49873)
• If you type at the end of links, they now extend
• Templates now only take a single click to insert
• Clear annotations clears links (50461)
• The link inspector stays open when you click to another item (50895)
• Typing after multi-byte characters no longer creats pawn icons (51140)
• Resizing thumbnails that have a default size set now works (50645)
• References made by tag:ref now display properly (bugzilla:50978)
• The VE is integrated with the spam blacklist (50826)
• Feedbacl link goes to the right language (bugzilla:47730)

There are a lot more improvements coming, but that's it for Monday and Tuesday. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 08:28, 17 July 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Amusement Parks for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Have a great day. –Mabeenot (talk) 05:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)

WikiProject Amusement Parks Newsletter Volume 1, Issue 3 July 2013 Special

Project News An interview involving this WikiProject will be featured in the Signpost's WikiProject Report on August 28, 2013. If there are any members who wish to take part in the interview, please go here to answer the questions. For members that use VisualEditor, as of the newsletter publishing date, most of the WikiProject's infoboxs and templates have very limited interaction with the editor. Over the next few months, code to allow full interaction with VisualEditor will be written. Currently, {{Infobox amusement park}} and {{Infobox attraction}} have code written but {{Infobox amusement park}} is not being actively used as VisualEditor has not noticed that the code is there, yet ({{Infobox attraction}} is working). Editor: Dom497 Sent out on July 18, 2013.

Hi Dom, you seem to know whats up with the GA recruiter page so I'm asking you. Isn't a minimum of 15 reviews a bit low? It just doesn't seem like a high enough bar. Would you consider raising the bar to 30 perhaps, or some other number? Thanks, ★★King•Retrolord★★ 14:18, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

@Retrolord: We would lose a lot of recruiters if I were to raise it up. I follow along every recruitment and IMO everyone is doing fine so I don't think there is a need to raise the review count to 30 (also, some recruitments seem to be stalling but that doesn't have to do with experience).--Dom497 (talk) 16:47, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497. The newest updates:

• Links now don't extend over space/punctuation/workbreaks when you type (bugzilla:51463)
• Users with the "minoredit" preference set get working functionality (bugzilla:51515)
• You can tab to buttons in dialogs, including the save dialog (bugzilla:50047)
• We now show the <newarticletext> (or <newarticletextanon>) message as an edit notice (bugzilla:51459)
• You can scroll dialog panels like in transclusions' templates' parameter listings (bugzilla:51739)
• Templates that only create meta-data and no display content at all (like Template:Use dmy dates) now can't be deleted accidentally or deliberately, but still don't show up (bugzilla:51322)
• FlaggedRevisions integration (bugzilla:49699)
• Edit summary will get the section title pre-added if you launched from a section edit link (bugzilla:50872)

Along with some miscellaneous language support fixes. That's all for today; as always, let us know if you spot more bugs. Thanks, Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 22:03, 24 July 2013 (UTC)

Hi there. You probably have forgotten about it already since it was made over a year ago.

I am in the middle of clearing up backlogs for editor review, so I have reviewed and archived your request. Cheers! Alex Shih^Talk 22:42, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

@Alex Shih: Its already been a year (time goes by fast)!?!? Thanks for the review!--Dom497 (talk) 00:45, 28 July 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom, I feel like this is Déjà vu all over again! Unfortunately, I will not be here for the Kings Island announcement. I'm making a trip to Canada (and of course Canada's Wonderland!) and might not be on at the time of the announcement so I'd greatly appreciate it if you could move User:Astros4477/Kings Island 2014 into namespace. Btw if you have any tips/secrets for Canada's Wonderland, let me know! I'm looking forward to my first visit. Thanks, -- Astros4477 (Talk) 01:44, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

• As a listed GA participant, you are invited to contribute to a formal Request for Comment on the question of whether Good Articles should be eligible to appear in the Did You Know? slot in future. Please see the proposal on its subpage here, or on the main DYK talk page. To add the discussion to your watchlist, click this link. Thank you in advance. Gilderien Chat|Contributions02:45, 1 August 2013 (UTC)

Quick tip: Need to wikilink a word in VisualEditor? Select the word and type Control+k or ⌘ Command+k to enter VisualEditor's link tool without taking your hands off the keyboard. See Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Keyboard shortcuts for more time-saving keyboard shortcuts.

It's been almost two weeks since the last newsletter, and a lot of improvements have been made during that time. The main things that people have noticed are significant improvements to speed for typing into long pages (T54012), scrolling (T54014) and deleting (T54013) on large pages. There have also been improvements to references, with the latest being support for list-defined references, which are <ref>s defined inside a <references> block (T53741). Users of Opera 12 and higher have had their web browser removed from the browser black-list, mostly as a result of work by a volunteer developer (T38000). Opera has not been fully white-listed yet, so these users will get an additional warning and request to report problems.

Significant changes were made to the user interface to de-emphasize VisualEditor. This has cut the use of VisualEditor by approximately one-third. You can read about these at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Updates/August 1, 2013, but they include:

• Re-ordering links to the editors to put "Edit source" first and VisualEditor second
• Renaming the link for VisualEditor to "Edit^beta"
• Disabling the animation for section editing.
• Changing all labels for the classic wikitext editor to say "Edit source", regardless of namespace.

There have also been many smaller fixes, including these:

• Horizontal alignment of images working correctly on more pages (T53995)
• Categories with ':'s in their names (like Category:Wikipedia:Privacy) now work correctly (T53902)
• Magic JavaScript gadgets and tools like sortable tables will now work once the page is saved (T53565)
• Keyboard shortcut for "clear annotations" - now Control+\ or ⌘ Command+\ (T53507)
• Fixed corruption bugs that led to duplicate categories (T54238) and improper collapsing when multiple new references were added in a row (T54228).
• Improvements to display elements: The save dialog in Monobook is restored to normal size (T52058), pop-up notices on save now look the same in VisualEditor as in wikitext editor (T41632), and the popup about using wikitext has a link to the definition of wikitext that now opens in a new window (T54093)

Most of the Wikimedia Foundation staff is traveling this week and next, so no updates are expected until at least August 15th. If you're going to be in Hong Kong for Wikimania 2013, say hello to James Forrester, Philippe Beaudette, and the other members of the VisualEditor team.

As always, if you have questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 23:15, 6 August 2013 (UTC)

Did you happen to have a draft article floating around for Clermont Steel Fabricators at some point, or am I mistaken? It would be good to see this article developed because there are a handful of pages that mention it and more that probably should. Themeparkgc  Talk  05:44, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

I've always had this idea floating around in my head and I think it would be ok. The question is, is it notable enough? I'd probably say yes.-- Astros4477 (Talk) 13:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

@Themeparkgc: @Astros4477: Ya I had a draft, then I just never came back to it. I have restored it here and I'll start working on it again (you can help out if you want).--Dom497 (talk) 15:39, 10 August 2013 (UTC)

@Themeparkgc: @Astros4477:  Done even though its just a stub.--Dom497 (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi, I saw you added a ping in a recent edit - these only work if you sign in the same edit :) Although I think that the WMF idea seems to be a splendid one.--Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 03:06, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

@Gilderien: Thanks for the head ups! I re-added the pings (look at the page history)...would it work now?--Dom497 (talk) 03:09, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Looks good :) --Gilderien Chat|List of good deeds 05:02, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello, Dom497. You have new messages at Talk:Best Day Ever/GA1.
Message added 10:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Mediran (t • c) 10:19, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi! You have new replies! Thanks. :) Mediran (t • c) 13:07, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

More replies! :) Mediran (t • c) 00:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

I attempted a response.— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 20:23, 16 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 01:19, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Hey Dom497! Thank you very much for passing the "Best Day Ever" article. Also, I would like to award you this because I saw how persuasive and great you are on working to get articles to GA status (especially those with relation to amusement parks/B&M). Thank you and have a nice day! Cheers! :) Mediran (t • c) 01:39, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! :) --Dom497 (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Goliath (La Ronde) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of QatarStarsLeague -- QatarStarsLeague (talk) 17:56, 20 August 2013 (UTC)

Did you know? Parsoid is a tool that translates between the raw wikitext that Wikipedia articles are stored in, and the HTML/RDFa that VisualEditor uses on your screen. If you see chess pawn (♙) or snowman (☃) icons in an article, it usually means that Parsoid has encountered something confusing in the wikitext markup. Please report these problems to Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback.

Both VisualEditor and MediaWiki were upgraded recently. For VisualEditor, this is the long-awaited post-Wikimania update with many bug fixes and enhancements. Work also continues on speed at opening and during use, as well as on the bugs reported here and at other Wikipedias. The full report is at Mediawiki.

References are displaying properly, even when nested (T52749) or in image captions (T2000. Reference lists are now always fully populated with references (bug 50094). Firefox users can insert an existing reference in the first paragraph (T54159). Opera users no longer see corruption of categories when a reference was added (bug 50385).

Stray spaces are being stripped from the start of paragraphs to end one of the common <nowiki> problems (T53462). We also fixed a round-tripping bug that caused desirable whitespace in templates (used to make templates more legible, e.g., by putting each parameter in an infobox on a separate line) to get corrupted (bug 51150).

Wikilink handling was improved. Users are not allowed to create internal links to invalid titles (titles that are actually impossible due to limits on acceptable character combinations in titles, not redlinks) (T35094). You can extend wikilinks, but it won't do so over a wordbreak (like a space) (bugs 49931 and 51463).

A handful of fixes to the user interface were made. The toolbar doesn't float over personal tools after opening a dialog or the inspector (T54441). Toolbars were also re-written to be collapsible/expandable, with room for more icons. Buttons in dialogs can now be activated using the Tab ↹ and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ key commands (bug 50047). This saves time for editors, because you don't need to take your hands off the keyboard to click a button. We fixed a handful of bugs that affected only certain articles or certain browsers, including toolbar buttons in Firefox (bug 51986) and dialog panels that didn't always scroll correctly (bug 51739). Bugs with undo/redo getting confused have been fixed (T54113).

Images, in addition to getting references displaying correctly, also saw improvements with a set-empty |link= parameter no longer corrupted (51963). We corrected thumbnail images' display so that they look don't wrong in some contexts (bug 51995). Inserted images no longer explicitly set their alignment, but instead inherit the default position in compliance with the Manual of Style (bug 51851).

More edit notices, warnings, and metadata like information about Pending Changes on an article now appear as appropriate (bug 49699). When new articles are created, users are now shown the <newarticletext> message (bug 51459). VisualEditor now handles templates that set "meta" items (like a category) and nothing else better (bug 51322). If the database is locked when a user tries to save with VisualEditor, they now get a message telling them as such and an opportunity to try again, rather than a silent failure (bug 51636).

When you save the page, having the default preference set to "mark all my edits as minor by default" no longer overrides the setting in the save dialog (bug 51515). If you open VisualEditor from a section edit link, the section's title will be pre-filled in in the edit summary box when you go to save it (bug 50872). The size of the save dialog box in the Monobook skin has been fixed (bug 50058). Also, wikipage content handlers like sortable tables are re-run automatically after saving (T53565).

A very early version of the mathematics equation editor is now available for testing on mw:Mediawiki. If you would like to help improve the user interface for math editor, please test out the extension at mw:Mediawiki:Sandbox and leave your comments directly at the discussion page for the Math Node User Interface at Mediawiki. You should be able to use your regular username and password should to login to Mediawiki.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 17:30, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello! Your submission of Banshee (roller coaster) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! IronGargoyle (talk) 13:22, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

The article Goliath (La Ronde) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Goliath (La Ronde) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of QatarStarsLeague -- QatarStarsLeague (talk) 22:07, 25 August 2013 (UTC)

On 27 August 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Banshee (roller coaster), which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Banshee at the Kings Island amusement park will become the longest inverted roller coaster in the world when it opens in 2014? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Banshee (roller coaster). You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Alex Shih^Talk 00:02, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

Hello -

I am working with the East Grand Rapids MI Public Library as they embark on a GLAM project. I'm a newbie, which is why I'm reaching out....

East Grand Rapids was the home to Ramona Park and to the Jack Rabbit Derby Racer [1]. As a kick-off project they would like to expand Ramona Park during an edit-a-thon. The Library is home to a local history room - a room filled to the ceiling with memorabilia, photos and artifacts from Ramona Park.

The plan is to upload much of this material via Commons (hopefully before the edit-a-thon on October 19, 2013 - coincidentally during Wikipedia Loves Libraries month).

One problem - there are few locally evident Wikipedia editors to actually show up at the library for an edit-a-thon.

Do you think if we set up a Google hangout, we might be able to entice a few Amusement Park editors to remote in? There is a possibilty of a cool tee-shirt [2] donated by the library for some, too!

I might be able to provide you/this project with a preview of the historical materials - it seems to me there might be more than one article to create.

Also I've come up with a DYK candidate: Did you know that President Gerald Ford worked at Ramona Park, home to one of three derby racers in the US? (The Ford part is true, not quite sure of the derby racer stat, though!)

Thanks for your consideration, Bdcousineau (talk) 23:33, 27 August 2013 (UTC)

@Bdcousineau: Hi there, I like what you're trying to do but with school starting in less than a week, I'm trying to keep my Wikipedia workload as low as possible. Maybe if you contact another WP:AP member, they can help. Sorry.--Dom497 (talk) 03:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Ok, thanks! I'll try a few other WP:AP members. Hope your semester goes well! I'll prpbably send a notice as it gets closer, perhaps you can just watchlist us. Cheers, Bdcousineau (talk) 11:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Griffon (roller coaster) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by GA bot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 13:46, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

The WikiProject Report would like to focus on WikiProject Good Articles for a Signpost article. This is an excellent opportunity to draw attention to your efforts and attract new members to the project. Would you be willing to participate in an interview? If so, here are the questions for the interview. Just add your response below each question and feel free to skip any questions that you don't feel comfortable answering. Multiple editors will have an opportunity to respond to the interview questions, so be sure to sign your answers. If you know anyone else who would like to participate in the interview, please share this with them. Hope you have a great day! -buffbills7701 14:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Hey Dom497. I'm contacting you because you're involved in the Article Feedback Tool in some way, either as a previous newsletter recipient or as an active user of the system. As you might have heard, a user recently anonymously disabled the feedback tool on 2,000 pages. We were unable to track or prevent this due to the lack of logging feature in AFT5. We're deeply sorry for this, as we know that quite a few users found the software very useful, and were using it on their articles.

We've now re-released the software, with the addition of a logging feature and restrictions on the ability to disable. Obviously, we're not going to automatically re-enable it on each article—we don't want to create a situation where it was enabled by users who have now moved on, and feedback would sit there unattended—but if you're interested in enabling it for your articles, it's pretty simple to do. Just go to the article you want to enable it on, click the "request feedback" link in the toolbox in the sidebar, and AFT5 will be enabled for that article.

Again, we're very sorry about this issue; hopefully it'll be smooth sailing after this :). If you have any questions, just drop them at the talkpage. Thanks! Okeyes (WMF) 21:38, 1 September 2013 (UTC)

Opps! Huggle detected it as vandalism and I reverted it, then I was confused. Oppps! ///EuroCarGT 16:28, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

No worries, we all make mistakes! :) --Dom497 (talk) 16:32, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

Did you know?

You can search for images directly in VisualEditor. Click the media icon, which looks like this:

Then type a few keywords into the search box. VisualEditor will search Commons for images or other files whose titles or descriptions contain those words, and will display thumbnail pictures of them for your review. Click one time on the image you want to insert in the article.

For more details, read VisualEditor's user guide.

This Thursday's VisualEditor update was mostly about stability and performance improvements, and some preparatory work for major planned improvements, along with bug fixes for non-English language support and right-to-left text. Everything that the English Wikipedia received today has been running on Mediawiki for a week already.

Officially, the problem with the link inspector not linking to a specific section on a page (bug 53219) was fixed in this release, although that critical patch actually appeared here earlier.

A number of bugs related to copy-and-paste functionality were fixed (48604, bug 50043, bug 53362, bug 51538, among others). Full rich copy-and-paste from external sources into VisualEditor is expected "soon".

In other fixes, you can no longer add empty ref tags (<ref/>) (bug 53345). Selecting both an image and some text, and then trying to add a link, previously deleted the selected image and the text. This was fixed in bug 50127. There was another problem related to using arrow keys to move the cursor next to an inline image that was fixed (bug 53507).

Looking ahead: The next planned upgrade is scheduled for next Thursday, and you should expect to find a redesigned toolbar with drop-down menus that include room for references, templates, underline, strikethrough, superscript, subscript, and code formatting. There will also be keyboard shortcuts for setting the format (paragraph vs section headings).

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being determined at this time. Generally speaking, languages that depend on the input method editor are not going to receive VisualEditor this month. The current target date is Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 5 September 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading File:GateKeeper (CP) Layout.png. The media description page currently specifies that it is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, it is currently orphaned, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the media was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that will be useful. However, please note that media for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

If you have uploaded other unlicensed media, please check whether they're used in any articles or not. You can find a list of 'file' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "File" from the dropdown box. Note that all non-free media not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Werieth (talk) 14:51, 7 September 2013 (UTC)

On 9 September 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Clermont Steel Fabricators, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that Clermont Steel Fabricators is the manufacturer of Bolliger & Mabillard roller coasters? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Clermont Steel Fabricators. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 16:03, 9 September 2013 (UTC)

The article Griffon (roller coaster) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within 7 days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Griffon (roller coaster) for things which need to be addressed. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 16:10, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Did you know?

You can edit a page's categories in VisualEditor. Click the "Page settings" button (next to Cancel/Save) in the toolbar to open the category tool. It will show you a list of the current categories for that page.

To add a category, type the name of the category you want to add in the search field. To remove an existing category, click on the category in the list and then, in the dialog that opens, click on the "Remove" icon (trash can). "Options" will allow you to set a default sorting key.

For more details, read VisualEditor's user guide.

VisualEditor has been updated twice in the last two weeks. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week.

As announced, the toolbar was redesigned to be simpler, shorter, and to have the ability to have drop-down groups with descriptions. What you see now is the initial configuration and is expected to change in response to feedback from the English Wikipedia and other Wikipedias. The controls to add <u> (underline), <sub> (subscript), and <sup> (superscript), <s> (strikethrough) and <code> (computer code/monospace font) annotations to text are available to all users in the drop-down menu. At the moment, all but the most basic tools have been moved into a single drop-down menu, including the tools for inserting media, references, reference lists, and templates. The current location of all of the items in the toolbar is temporary, and your opinions about the best order are needed! Please offer suggestions at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback/Toolbar.

In an eagerly anticipated upgrade to the reference dialog, newly added references or reference groups no longer need the page to be saved before they can be re-used (bugs 51689 and 52000). The 'Use existing reference' button is now disabled on pages which don't yet have any references (bug 51848). The template parameter filter in the transclusion dialog now searches both parameter name and label (bug 51670).

In response to several requests, there are some new keyboard shortcuts. You can now set the block/paragraph formatting from the keyboard: Ctrl+0 sets a block as a regular paragraph; Ctrl+1 up to Ctrl+6 sets it as a Heading 1 ("Page title") to Heading 6 ("Sub-heading 4"); Ctrl+7 sets it as pre-formatted (bug 33512). Ctrl+2, which creates level 2 section headings, may be the most useful.

Some improvements were made to capitalization for links, so typing in "iPhone" will offer a link to "iPhone" as well as "IPhone" (bug 50452).

Copying and pasting within the same document should work better as of today's update, as should copying from VisualEditor into a third-party application (bug 53364, bug 52271, bug 52460). Work on copying and pasting between VisualEditor instances (for example, between two articles) and retaining formatting when copying from an external source into VisualEditor is progressing.

Major improvements to editing with input method editors (IMEs; mostly used for Indic and East Asian languages) are being deployed today. This is a complex change, so it may produce unexpected errors. On a related point, the names of languages listed in the "languages" (langlinks) panel in the Page settings dialog now display as RTL when appropriate (bug 53503).

Looking ahead: The help/'beta' menu will soon expose the build number next to the "Leave feedback" link, so users can give more specific reports about issues they encounter (bug 53050). This change will make it easier for developers to identify any cacheing issues, once it starts reporting the build number (currently, it says "Version false"). Also, inserting a link, reference or media file will put the cursor after the new content again (bug 53560). Next week’s update will likely improve how dropdowns and other selection menus behave when they do not fit on the screen, with things scrolling so the selected item is always in view.

If you are active at other Wikipedias, the next group of Wikipedias to have VisualEditor offered to all users is being finalized. About two dozen Wikipedias are on the list for Tuesday, September 24 for logged-in users only, and on Monday, September 30 for unregistered editors. You can help with translating the documentation. In several cases, most of the translation is already done, and it only needs to be copied over to the relevant Wikipedia. If you are interested in finding out whether a particular Wikipedia is currently on the list, you can leave a message for me at my talk page.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 21:35, 19 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- Moswento (talk) 12:50, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

If you have some spare time, would you care to review God of War: Ghost of Sparta? --JDC808 ♫ 05:35, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

@JDC808: Hi, as mentioned in my page notice (seen when editing my talk page), I do not review FAC's. Sorry.--Dom497 (talk) 19:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't even read that. --JDC808 ♫ 23:17, 25 September 2013 (UTC)

@JDC808: No worries. :) --Dom497 (talk) 02:01, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Tatsu you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 07:31, 26 September 2013 (UTC)

The article Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Goliath (Six Flags Over Georgia) for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Moswento -- Moswento (talk) 20:19, 30 September 2013 (UTC)

Hi. You're being contacted as you've previously used global message delivery (or its English Wikipedia counterpart). It doesn't feel so great to be spammed, does it? ;-)

For the past few months, Legoktm has built a replacement to the current message delivery system called MassMessage. MassMessage uses a proper user interface form (no more editing a /Spam subpage), works faster (it can complete a large delivery in minutes), and no longer requires being on an access list (any local administrator can use it). In addition, many tiny annoyances with the old system have been addressed. It's a real improvement! :-)

You can test out MassMessage here: testwiki:Special:MassMessage. The biggest difference you'll likely notice is that any input list must use a new {{#target:}} parser function. For example, {{#target:User talk:Jimbo Wales}} or {{#target:User talk:Jimbo Wales|test2.wikipedia.org}}. For detailed instructions, check out mw:Help:Extension:MassMessage.

If you find any bugs, have suggestions for additional features, or have any other feedback, drop a note at m:Talk:MassMessage. Thanks for spamming! --MZMcBride (talk) 05:16, 1 October 2013 (UTC)

The article Tatsu you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Tatsu for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of The Rambling Man -- The Rambling Man (talk) 21:32, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

Did you know?

You can create and edit multi-level lists in VisualEditor. The first two icons let you set or remove list formatting.

The last two are used to increase or decrease the indentation level. This can also be done from the keyboard, by using Tab ↹ to indent the list and ⇧ Shift+Tab ↹ to outdent it.

For more information, read Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide.

VisualEditor is still being updated every Thursday. As usual, what is now running on the English Wikipedia had a test run at Mediawiki during the previous week. If you haven't done so already, you can turn on VisualEditor by going to your preferences and choosing the item, "MediaWiki:Visualeditor-preference-enable".

The reference dialog for all Wikipedias, especially the way it handles citation templates, is being redesigned. Please offer suggestions and opinions at mw:VisualEditor/Design/Reference Dialog. (Use your Wikipedia username/password to login there.) You can also drag and drop references (select the reference, then hover over the selected item until your cursor turns into the drag-and-drop tool). This also works for some templates, images, and other page elements (but not yet for text or floated items). References are now editable when they appear inside a media item's caption (bug 50459).

There were a number of miscellaneous fixes made: Firstly, there was a bug that meant that it was impossible to move the cursor using the keyboard away from a selected node (like a reference or template) once it had been selected (bug 54443). Several improvements have been made to scrollable windows, panels, and menus when they don't fit on the screen or when the selected item moves off-screen. Editing in the "slug" at the start of a page no longer shows up a chess pawn character ("♙") in some circumstances (bug 54791). Another bug meant that links with a final punctuation character in them broke extending them in some circumstances (bug 54332). The "page settings" dialog once again allows you to remove categories (bug 54727). There have been some problems with deployment scripts, including one that resulted in VisualEditor being broken for an hour or two at all Wikipedias (bug 54935). Finally, snowmen characters ("☃") no longer appear near newly added references, templates and other nodes (bug 54712).

Looking ahead: Development work right now is on rich copy-and-paste abilities, quicker addition of citation templates in references, setting media items' options (such as being able to put images on the left), switching into wikitext mode, and simplifying the toolbar. A significant amount of work is being done on other languages during this month. If you speak a language other than English, you can help with translating the documentation.

For other questions or suggestions, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting problem reports at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and other ideas at Wikipedia talk:VisualEditor. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:35, 16 October 2013 (UTC)

Hi. I signed up for Good article recruitment with Gilderien but he(?) hasn't edited for over a month. Is there anything I can do? RainCity471 (Whack!) 20:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, he's just emailed me—he'll on a sort of wikibreak. Sorry, RainCity471 (Whack!) 09:04, 20 October 2013 (UTC)

@RainCity471: No worries! Thanks for showing interest in the recruitment centre!--Dom497 (talk) 02:17, 22 October 2013 (UTC)

In your response on the talk page, you said "Canada's Wonderland has never used the word "giga" in anything related to Leviathan". However, the very last post in the original discussion, you said "B&M doesn't not consider Leviathan a Giga. However, Canada's Wonderland does. When I was at the park yesterday I noticed that the posters for sale said "Type of Coaster: Giga Coaster"". I'm just wondering if this changed in some way, because your answers seem to conflict with one another. Thanks! --GoneIn60 (talk) 18:39, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

@GoneIn60: I forgot that I said that. But either way, it still supports what I said on the other page that "Giga" is a Cedar Fair term used only for marketing. To be honest, I don't care if we say that its part of the "giga-class"....as long as the article doesn't say the type/model is a Giga (because it isn't).--Dom497 (talk) 20:09, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Right, I agree. It's a "class" of roller coasters, not a "type". --GoneIn60 (talk) 20:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dom497. Thanks for preparing the backlog drive page in your userspace. When do you think you'll be ready to move it into the project namespace? I think it would be good to have a centralized drive page, so that we solicit pledges from other users, we can post more information on the drive's page. Edge3 (talk) 02:05, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

@Edge3: The page is here but it isn't complete. If you think its a good idea to move it now and just place a notice saying the page isn't complete I'm fine with that.--Dom497 (talk) 19:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

@Edge3: Oh, also, you said you would be willing to donate. Just so I can put it on the backlog page do you know how much you would be willing to (per review)? If you don't, don't worry about it.--Dom497 (talk) 00:51, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

You can put me down for 5 cents per review, and feel free to take your time on setting up the page. I probably won't start advertising the pledge drive until later this week. Edge3 (talk) 01:02, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

Ok thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 01:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)

@Edge3: I have finished developing the page.--Dom497 (talk) 15:56, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Excellent! Thanks for letting me know. I will start attempting to get more pledges. Edge3 (talk) 23:46, 10 November 2013 (UTC)

Did you know?

VisualEditor's toolbar has a new feature (currently working only in some browsers), "Switch to source editing". By choosing this item, you can move directly into the wikitext source editor without saving. This is particularly useful if you need to make significant changes to tables, image galleries, or other elements that are not currently supported.

For more information about how to use VisualEditor, read Wikipedia:VisualEditor/User guide.

Since the last newsletter, the VisualEditor team has worked on some feature changes, major infrastructure improvements to make the system more stable, dependable and extensible, some minor toolbar improvements, and fixing bugs.

A new form parsing library for language characters in Parsoid caused the corruption of pages containing diacritics for about an hour two weeks ago. Relatively few pages at the English Wikipedia were affected, but this created immediate problems at some other Wikipedias, sometimes affecting several dozen pages. The development teams for Parsoid and VisualEditor apologize for the serious disruption and thank the people who reported this emergency at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback and on the public IRC channel, #mediawiki-visualeditor.

There have been dozens of changes since the last newsletter. Here are some of the highlights:

• Accidental deletion of infoboxes and other items: You now need to press the Delete or ← Backspace key twice to delete a template, reference or image. The first time, the item becomes selected, and the second time, it is removed. The need to press the delete key twice should make it more obvious what you are doing and help avoid accidental removals of infoboxes and similar (bug 55336).
• Switch from VisualEditor to the wikitext editor: A new feature lets you make a direct, one-way editing interface change, which will preserve your changes without needing to save the page and re-open it in the wikitext editor (bug 50687). It is available in a new menu in the action buttons by the Cancel button (where the "Page Settings" button used to be). Note that this new feature is not currently working in Firefox.
• Categories and Languages are also now directly available in that menu. The category suggestions drop-down was appearing in the wrong place rather than below its input box, which is now fixed. An incompatibility between VisualEditor and the deployed Parsoid service that prevented editing categories and language links was fixed.
• File:, Help: and Category: namespaces: VisualEditor was enabled for these namespaces the on all wikis (bug 55968), the Portal: and Viquiprojecte: namespaces on the Catalan Wikipedia (bug 56000), and the Portal: and Book: namespaces on the English Wikipedia (bug 56001).
• Media item resizing: We improved how files are viewed in a few ways. First, inline media items can now be resized in the same way that has been possible with block ones (like thumbnails) before. When resizing a media item, you can see a live preview of how it will look as you drag it (bug 54298). While you are dragging an image to resize it, we now show a label with the current dimensions (bug 54297). Once you have resized it, we fetch a new, higher resolution image for the media item if necessary (bug 55697). Manual setting of media item sizes in their dialog is nearly complete and should be available next week. If you hold down the ⇧ Shift key whilst resizing an image, it will now snap to a 10 pixel grid instead of the normal free-hand sizing. The media item resize label now is centered while resizing regardless of which tool you use to resize it.
• Undo and redo: A number of improvements were made to the transactions system which make undoing and redoing more reliable during real-time collaboration (bug 53224).
• Save dialogue: The save page was re-written to use the same code as all other dialogs (bug 48566), and in the process fixed a number of issues. The save dialog is re-accessible if it loses focus (bug 50722), or if you review a null edit (bug 53313); its checkboxes for minor edit, watch the page, and flagged revisions options now layout much more cleanly (bug 52175), and the tab order of the buttons is now closer to what users will expect (bug 51918). There was a bug in the save dialog that caused it to crash if there was an error in loading the page from Parsoid, which is now fixed.
• Links to other articles or pages sometimes sent people to invalid pages. VisualEditor now keeps track of the context in which you loaded the page, which lets us fix up links in document to point to the correct place regardless of what entry point you launched the editor from—so the content of pages loaded through /wiki/Foobar?veaction=edit and /w/index.php?title=Foobar&veaction=edit both now have text links that work if triggered (bug 48915).
• Toolbar links: A bug that caused the toolbar's menus to get shorter or even blank when scrolled down the page in Firefox is now fixed (bug 55343).
• Numbered external links: VisualEditor now supports Parsoid's changed representation of numbered external links (bug 53505).
• Removed empty templates: We also fixed an issue that meant that completely empty templates became impossible to interact with inside VisualEditor, as they didn't show up (bug 55810).
• Mathematics formulae: If you would like to try the experimental LaTeX mathematics tool in VisualEditor, you will need to opt-in to Beta Features. This is currently available on Meta-wiki, Wikimedia Commons, and Mediawiki.org. It will be available on all other Wikimedia sites on 21 November.
• Browser testing support: If you are interested in technical details, the browser tests were expanded to cover some basic cursor operations, which uncovered an issue in our testing framework that doesn't work with cursoring in Firefox; the Chrome tests continue to fail due to a bug with the welcome message for that part of the testing framework.
• Load time: VisualEditor now uses content language when fetching Wikipedia:TemplateData information, so reducing bandwidth use, and users on multi-language or multi-script wikis now get TemplateData hinting for templates as they would expect (bug 50888).
• Reuse of VisualEditor: Work on spinning out the user experience (UX) framework from VisualEditor into oojs-ui, which lets other teams at Wikimedia (like Flow) and gadget authors re-use VisualEditor UX components, is now complete and is being moved to a shared code repository.
• Support for private wikis: If you maintain a private wiki at home or at work, VisualEditor now supports editing of private wikis, by forwarding the Cookie: HTTP header to Parsoid ($wgVisualEditorParsoidForwardCookies set to true) (bug 44483). (Most private wikis will also need to install Parsoid and node.js, as VisualEditor requires them.)

Looking ahead:

• VisualEditor will be released to some of the smaller Wikipedias on 02 December 2013. If you are active at one or more smaller Wikipedias where VisualEditor is not yet generally available, please see the list at VisualEditor/Rollouts.
• Public office hours on IRC to discuss VisualEditor with Product Manager James Forrester will be held on Monday, 2 December, at 1900 UTC and on Tuesday, 3 December, at 0100 UTC. Bring your questions. Logs will be posted on Meta after each office hour completes.
• In terms of feature improvements, one of the major infrastructure projects affects how inserting characters works, both using your computer's built-in Unicode input systems and through a planned character inserter tool for VisualEditor. The forthcoming rich copying and pasting feature was extended and greater testing is currently being done. Work continues to support the improved reference dialog to quickly add citations based on local templates.

If you have questions or suggestions for future improvements, or if you encounter problems, please let everyone know by posting a note at Wikipedia:VisualEditor/Feedback. Thank you! Whatamidoing (WMF) 22:00, 20 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi. You're being contacted as you're listed as an EdwardsBot user.

MassMessage has been deployed to all Wikimedia wikis. For help using the new tool, please check out its help page or drop a note on Meta-Wiki.

With over 400,000 edits to Wikimedia wikis, EdwardsBot has served us well; however EdwardsBot will no longer perform local or global message delivery after December 31, 2013.

A huge thanks to Legoktm, Reedy, Aaron Schulz and everyone else who helped to get MassMessage deployed. --MZMcBride (talk) 02:36, 22 November 2013 (UTC)

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Dæmonen you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gabriel Yuji -- Gabriel Yuji (talk) 16:11, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

The article Dæmonen you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Dæmonen for comments about the article. Well done! Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gabriel Yuji -- Gabriel Yuji (talk) 01:32, 26 November 2013 (UTC)

In a more normal Backlog drive. I would be expecting all my nominees (I have 12 articles at GAN right now) to be evaluated and be too busy to do a lot. I am not sure how this one is going to go, because it does not look like we are going to get that many reviews done. I.E., I am not sure how much time I will have. The barnstars are not such a big thing. I'll change my comment.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 08:05, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

@TonyTheTiger: Sorry, I don't understand what your trying to say up until the barnstar part. Regarding the barnstars, they aren't supposed to be a big thing; if you are reviewing for the barnstars, you are reviewing for the wrong reason.--Dom497 (talk) 20:13, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Well a lot of elimination drive reviewers in the past have shot for barnstars. A disproportionate number did just enough reviews to get particular ones. Anyways, I have already revised my statement to say that I am not shooting for a barnstar, but could be motivated to review more if one of my articles gets reviewed.--TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 05:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Here's a series of business arrangements which rivals that of US Thrill Rides which we discussed a few weeks ago. I was going to build up the Dynamic Structures article but realised other articles were needed. Hope you can follow ;-)

• Dynamic Structures enters into the amusement industry by repairing Premier Rides' Poltergeist which was sufferring problems with steel fatigue
• RoboCoaster Ltd. is founded in 2000 with the goal of developing robotic-based amusement rides
• RoboCoaster partners with KUKA and develops the G1 systems (e.g. Legoland)
• RoboCoaster partners with Dynamic Structures in 2004 to develop G2 systems which feature KUKA arms (i.e. Forbidden Journey)
• Dynamic Structures spins off some amusement ride development to a sister company Dynamic Attractions in 2011
• Dynamic Structures offers AGVs in partnership with Snox, however, RoboCoaster appear to showcase an identical product in conjunction with Simworx. These appear to be different to Dynamic Attractions' offering
• RoboCoaster and Dynamic Attractions together offer a flying theatre, that appears to be different to that offered by Dynamic Structures
• Dynamic Attractions is said to be led by the founder of Premier Rides, who I believe was Jim Seay
• Dynamic Attractions proposed a concept for the Big Red roller coaster, which uses track suspicously like Premier's, but no mention of that company

Anyway, I'm going to develop articles for Dynamic Attractions and RoboCoaster, and hopefully present all this in a nice clear way. Themeparkgc  Talk  06:10, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

@Themeparkgc: Um, I've been skiing all day and really want to go to bed (and its only 7 in Toronto!) so I'm not quite understanding what this has to do with UTR (is this referring to the "crazy" business model I said before? And if so, is this just to prove that other companies do the same? If so, yaaaa, I understand!!!). If not, can you please clarify...sorry.--Dom497 (talk) 23:50, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, that was exactly what I was meaning. Themeparkgc  Talk  23:52, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dom497. First of all, I want to thank you for maintaining the GAN backlog drive. It's running quite smoothly, thanks to your efforts. Do you still need help on the review team? I'd be happy to join you and assist your efforts. Edge3 (talk) 05:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! And yes please!--Dom497 (talk) 12:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Dom497,
can an user who is reviewing articles at the GAN Backlog drive be a reviewer also provided that the user does not review the reviews of his own articles? RRD13 (talk) 18:10, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: You can be part of the Review Team even if you are part of the drive. However, you can not review your own reviews.--Dom497 (talk) 19:41, 23 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your quick reply.But I have added my name here - Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/December 2013/Review Team, but my name does not appear at Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/GAN Backlog Drives/December 2013. :-( RRD13 (talk) 04:05, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

@Royroydeb: Hey, I think I fixed the issue. Let me know if you still can't see your name. :) --Dom497 (talk) 04:08, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

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Hey, question about reviewing GANs and who is credited with the GA. Instructions for reviewers say you should be bold and try to fix any minor things yourself. What if some things are not so minor, perhaps even substantial, but I as the reviewer am still willing to make the necessary changes to pass the article. I guess my first question is should I refrain from making too many changes myself? If that is okay, which I would think it would be, and the article does pass, would it be considered unseemly to credit myself with helping promote it (e.g. use {{User GA}} template on my user page)? Thanks — MusikAnimal ^talk 17:59, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

@MusikAnimal: If you want to go ahead and fix all the issues you find in an article (big or small), in my opinion I wouldn't see that as an issue. Regarding who gets credit, in my opinion, even if you don't make any edits to the article you can still give yourself credit for promoting the article as you are the one who reviewed it!--Dom497 (talk) 19:38, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

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