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Hi, thanks for your email - I will reply here, and would prefer that any replies from you are also placed here, as this page is on my watchlist.

Regarding Madhu Pandit Dasa - as mentioned at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Madhu_Pandit_Dasa, the deletion was a result of the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Madhu Pandit Dasa. As such, Requests for undeletion cannot help to get it undeleted. What we would need for undeletion to be considered is some evidence that he meets the notability criteria. This required reliable sources which are independent to show that he is notable - not any program, organisation or place with which he was involved. If you can provide some suitable sources in your reply here, we can go from there. Neither your email to me, nor your request at Requests for undeletion provided any such sources. PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 14:48, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Phantomsteve,

Thanks for your response, as you said I want to present the following links which confirm Madhu Pandit Dasa’s notability as an eminent public personality.

Links:

1. Madhu Pandit Dasa is an alumni of IIT Bombay (Mumbai). Distinguished Alumnus Award 2010 to Sriman Madhu Pandit Dasa

http://www.iitbombay.org/news/Current/alumni-in-the-news-may-21/ http://www.iitbombay.org/news/images/madhupanditdasa.jpg/view Other persons who got award - http://www.alumni.iitb.ac.in/daa_award_2010.aspx

2.The book "SOUL FOOD" written by Rashmi Bansal - how Madhu Pandit Dasa started the movement which combines missionary zeal and modern management to feed 1 million hungry children

http://www.ihaveadreambook.in/?page_id=44 Other books she has written - http://www.ihaveadreambook.in/?page_id=10 Wikipedia of Rashmi Bansal - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rashmi_Bansal

3.Akshay Patra Foundation is worlds largest that which supplies school meals to under privileged school children. The foundation was initiated by Madhu Pandit Das, the Chairman of Akshaya Patra and Mohan Das Pai, Trustee of Akshaya - published in India Book of Records

http://www.indiabookofrecords.in/records-gallery/helping-hands/akshay-patra-foundation Wikipedia of Mohan Das Pai - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.V._Mohandas_Pai

5.Another article published in times of India about Madhu Pandit Dasa http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2009-11-16/bangalore/28061008_1_madhu-pandit-dasa-iskcon-iit-bombay

6.Madhu Pandit Dasa was one of the finalists for Humanitarian award - published in The Sun UK , Scots man and independent http://www.thesun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3320301/Tragic-kidnap-victim-Linda-Norgrove-shortlisted-for-humanitarian-award.html

http://www.scotsman.com/news/killed-hostage-nominated-for-burns-award-1-1371066 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/aid-worker-killed-in-raid-may-get-award-2170401.html http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-12258927

7.Madhu Pandit Dasa has received “Prasamsa Patra (Letter of Appreciation)" from Governor of Karnataka - Letter of Appreciation from Governor of Karnataka

8.Rotary International Award Districts 3190 has honored Madhu Pandit Dasa with “EXCELLENCE N COMMUNITY SERVICE AWARD” -Rotary International Award

Hi, thanks for putting those here - I'll address those in a moment. Just one word though, you don't need to email me, or leave a message on my talk page - I have this page on my watchlist, and so I see any changes made here! OK, on to those references:

1. Distinguished Alumnus Award 2010 - unfortunately, this does not meet the requirements for showing notability. A general guide to the kinds of awards which are notable are listed at List of prizes, medals, and awards. Alumnus awards are seldom notable themselves, and the conferring of them seldom (if ever) confirms the notability of the recipient;
2. Soul Food - The provided reference is the website for the book/author, and so is not independent; despite Rashmi Bansal having an article, I would argue that she does not meet the notability criteria herself - I will look at that article at another time. However, be that as it may, this would not appear to show notability of Dasa, as it is not indepth coverage, plus the purpose of that website is to promote the book, so not independent;
3. Akshaya Patra Foundation - the mention of Dasa is minor ("Chairman While pursuing M.Tech from the Indian Institute of Technology (IIT), Mumbai, Madhu Pandit Dasa initiated The Akshaya Patra program in the year 2000, developing a technology-driven operating model.") - not sufficient to make him notable enough for a stand-alone article - also, Wikipedia articles cannot be used as references for other Wikipedia articles.
4. India Times article - this is probably the best reference so far, but I don't feel that it is enough to justify a stand-alone article. The details about Dasa would possibly be enough for a couple of sentences - but I don't think there's enough to reference a full article about him. A significant portion of the India Times article quotes him directly, and the rest does not provide enough editorial-independent copy that could be used;
5. Humanitarian award - the Sun says it's the Robert Burns Humanitarian Award - which it describes as a 'top award', but I can't find evidence of that - and mentions his name in the "also nominated" list - it's not significant coverage of him or his nomination. Likewise, the Scotsman mentions him as an "also nominated" person, as does the Independent and the BBC - with the BBC reporting on Linda Norgrove winning it - in fact, all of them focus on here, with just "Dasa was also nominated". This would not appear to be sufficient to show notability for Dasa
6. Letter of appreciation - even if I could find this on Photobucket, it would not be sufficient as a reference. Letters of appreciation are not counted as evidence of notability
7. Rotary International Award Districts - As mentioned in the AfD, awards from a Rotary District would not be sufficient to show notability.

All in all, I'm afraid that I am not personally seeing that Dasa meets the Notability criteria: If a topic has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject, it is presumed to satisfy the inclusion criteria for a stand-alone article or stand-alone list. - as the guidelines explain, multiple reliable independent sources which give significant coverage is required - and that is not met here. As such, I see no justification for there to be an article about him. As SpacemanSpiff said at the AfD, a mention at Akshaya Patra Foundation would be as much as would be justified, and that already has been done. Any further coverage of him there beyond what is already there would be giving undue weighting to him in that article. Regards, PhantomSteve/talk|contribs\ 12:00, 21 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]