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I noticed this. Why would you bother making such a change? --Dweller (talk) 14:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Dweller: On the courtesy blanking section in deletion policy, it says that a discussion will have its content hidden from view based on the judgment of the community, an administrator, or another functionary. This generally is not done except under rare circumstances, such as where public view of the discussion may cause harm to some person or organisation. I have no idea why a request for bureaucratship will be able to cause harm to someone. Cheers, Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 14:22, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I wouldn't know the answer to the question without asking Moe Epsilon, but I'm not sure he'd remember after 3+ years. Nihonjoe might remember. But wouldn't it have been easiest/most courteous just to ask them first? --Dweller (talk) 14:24, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Dweller: I thought about it, but I realized that he blanked his user page and his talk page. Since he had a series of wikibreaks recently, I thought he's going to take another one. I am pinging @Moe Epsilon: for why he did it. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 14:30, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Cheers. As it's called "courtesy blanking", let's do our best to be courteous :-) In that spirit, would you mind reverting yourself in the meantime? (Btw Nihonjoe is one of my fellow crats and is very much active - I've already pinged him.). --Dweller (talk) 14:34, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Good of you, thanks, I appreciate it. --Dweller (talk) 14:39, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I have no idea why it was blanked. If I was the one who requested it, I don't recall it. It was three years ago, and I can't think of anything in the discussion I'd want hidden (at least not without looking through it). ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:41, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Nihonjoe: It was blanked recently, 8 days ago. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 19:42, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

No, go look at the date again. It was blanked 22 December 2012. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:44, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

@Nihonjoe: I really need my daily cup of coffee... Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 19:47, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Here's a cup-o'-Joe. Enjoy! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 20:02, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

I am getting too old to remember stuff off-hand, so I did some digging and found this. It indeed was a request by @Nihonjoe: to have it courtesy blanked by someone, which I fulfilled. If Nihonjoe wants it restored I don't see why it can't be unblanked. Regards, — Moe Epsilon 07:31, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

Having taken a peek, I'm guessing that it was because of the cesspit that began on the RfB page and moved to the talk. --Dweller (talk) 14:45, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

That could very well be. I seem to remember something being taken out of context and interpolated beyond recognition. At this point, I really don't care about it. I'm fine either way. Actually, I'd prefer they be left blanked. As I mentioned in the request, people can still pull up things if they want to, but search engines won't find it. All that mess is better left less visible. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 19:21, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Toby 'TobiWan' Dawson is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Toby 'TobiWan' Dawson until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. The Drover's Wife (talk) 23:51, 30 December 2015 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Dat GuyWiki,
Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Poepkop (talk) 14:27, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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Happy New Year!

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Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. Regards, Yamaguchi先生 (talk) 22:33, 31 December 2015 (UTC)

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I am the source. You idiot, I would be very if worked in Spain.

When you write, try not writing conventional shit Jumper47 (talk) 10:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

@Jumper47: Please read Wikipedia's guidelines about WP:Reliable Sources. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 10:13, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

I not sure whats a credible source? Jumper47 (talk) 10:19, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

A credible source is a source that is reliable. For example, news articles such as BBC are reliable sources. A well-known book can be a reliable source. However, an editor with a conflict of interest on the subject is not a reliable source. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 10:23, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Is the credible source your wage packet?

Sure you are not robot. What written is very conventional. Tell me about different types of business practices. Every heard of killing someone with a signiture Jumper47 (talk) 10:36, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Your wage packet isn't a credible source because you have a conflict of interest on it. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 10:38, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the vouch at RPP - normally I can deal with it and have a little chat (as I am now - I'm calm) or just revert straight off, but it's been a little overwhelming recently -- samtar ^whisper 17:01, 1 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi I am Sarthak Sharma, Class7-c, from India. I don't know how to provide a source. Please tell me. It is my humble request. Thank You Regards- Sarthak Sharma

@Sarthakniar: Read WP:Reliable Source on what a reliable source is. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 09:54, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

You may want to know Admiral Alvin is active - has the block on Alvin the Almighty expired? On my mobile at the moment so can't quickly check -- samtar ^whisper 10:37, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

• It hasn't. Indeffed for evading an indef. BethNaught (talk) 10:48, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi. Re your AFD closure at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Sarah Duque Lovisoni, and your comment "Two weeks without any comments", I did comment, but above the relisting notices, because I was following up on my previous comment. On December 24, I concluded "Delete". —Largo Plazo (talk) 13:31, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@Largoplazo: I did it but I think it will still be relisted or something, although I won't participate in the discussion now. Next time, you might want to add your comment below the notices and just reference your comment above. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 14:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Great, thanks. —Largo Plazo (talk) 15:00, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

• ArpanjainDI (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Design Info (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

ArpanjainDI (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2016 (UTC) Please help suggest how I can get better proofs or cites for my page - Design Info. Also I earnestly request you to add and remove any information on the page to make it better and more acceptabe by Wiki. Email - [email protected] for any suggestions.

ArpanjainDI (talk) 14:52, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@ApranjainDI: Read WP:Reliable Source on what a reliable source is. Your article needs those. Also, read this to know if the company is notable. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:08, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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There's this AfC submission. I found out that there is the same article in the mainspace (Ronggui Subdistrict). A fellow Wikipedian told me to request a history merge, so here it is! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:50, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

Sorry to be bureaucratic about it, but the right place to request a history merge is at Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Favonian (talk) 16:33, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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I'm confused about why this submission was declined. It has significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. It shouldn't matter that several of the articles referenced are hosted by the same web portal. The article meets notability guidelines and would easily survive an AfD, in the unlikely even that someone made such an uninformed nomination. This draft should be moved into the mainspace; pushing a contributor away with moving goalpost criteria doesn't help anyone. GaryColemanFan (talk) 23:27, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

@GaryColemanFan: You need more WP:Reliable Sources. Most of your references are from one source and there is even an interview about one of the wrestlers. It's supposed to be about the show, not the wrestlers. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 04:34, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

The four stories from Canadian Online Explorer are more than enough to meet notability and reliable source guidelines. You're making up criteria that aren't reflected in policy or guidelines. At this point, the article could be moved into mainspace with no problem. Since the IP can't do that, it looks like the best solution would be for me to move it myself to avoid non-policy based rejection. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:53, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

Sure, move it to mainspace. It still means you have a higher chance of getting your article deleted by AfD. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 18:13, 3 January 2016 (UTC)

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Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Primefac was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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• 2605:A000:CCC3:C100:D4FD:3F:C8FD:B07F (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Haider Khaleel Raad (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Dear Dat GuyWiki,

I had to resubmit the article since the previous reviewer did not answer my question. Would you please help (see below)?

Dear Reviewer,

My article was about `Haider Khaleel Raad` has declined 3 times for different reasons! First it was a referencing issue, then external links, and now about notability. I believe along with many academics in this field that the person I am writing about is notable in his field. He is an author of 2 books (one of which was ranked number one best selling on Amazon last year under Aerodynamics category), and more than 50 articles of high impact factor. Could you please show me the difference in terms of notability and referencing between my article and these 2 examples?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yasmeen_Hanoosh

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mina_Aganagic

Thank you again for your time. Happy New Year!

2605:A000:CCC3:C100:B8FA:2EBF:3BC0:C71E (talk) 19:27, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

2605:A000:CCC3:C100:D4FD:3F:C8FD:B07F (talk) 21:21, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

@2605:A000:CCC3:C100:D4FD:3F:C8FD:B07F: First of all, please read this. Then, read the notability criteria. If you feel that he still does pass it, then you might like to find more WP:RS. Cheers, Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:37, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

The script is now "User:Samtar/dev/editquest/editquest.js" (as I misspelt editquest..) - see the instructions and remember to purge your cache otherwise your diffs will go to my test page (which your latest did). Cheers! -- samtar ^whisper 10:36, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

That a no for the bot then? -- samtar ^whisper 21:58, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

@Samtar: Not sure. Found out that there is a bot, but it and it's operator aren't active. Here. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:59, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

Hmmm.. Decat-ing blocked users would be pretty trivial - I'll work on a script in the background as a learning exercise and maybe take it to the approval group if you/others request it -- samtar ^whisper 22:06, 6 January 2016 (UTC)

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Hello DatGuy. I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Shankar filmography, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: Several other users have edited the page. . Thank you. GedUK  14:11, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

Good job answering the help-me request such as at User talk:Aniyahboo1 however it would be helpful if you do a couple things while you're at it... (1) cleanup (WP:REFACTOR) their original message so it has proper formatting; (2) be sure to answer their message after their signature; and (3) remove the template by changing it to {{help me-helped}}... all the best, and good work! Tiggerjay (talk) 16:40, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

@Tiggerjay: Thanks! Also, I wasn't sure if my answer really answered their question, so I left it open. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:42, 8 January 2016 (UTC)

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Kdsimph (talk) 18:14, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed! Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by SwisterTwister was:

This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of organizations and companies and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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SwisterTwister talk 19:10, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

7&6=thirteen (☎) has given you a Dobos torte to enjoy! Seven layers of fun because you deserve it. To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.

7&6=thirteen (☎) 21:11, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@7&6=thirteen: Hm, Hungarian food. My favourite! Also, when are you thinking of running for adminship Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 21:23, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

Flatterer. I have no aspirations. I don't use tools (I am almost entirely a manual editor) and since I don't have them don't know what I would do if I were handed them. It would be a real responsibility, and I take that stuff seriously. When I got into the top 400 wikipedians of all time maybe. 22:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

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This submission's references do not adequately show the subject's notability. Wikipedia requires significant coverage about the subject in reliable sources that are independent of the subject—see the guidelines on the notability of people and the golden rule. Please improve the submission's referencing (see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners), so that the information is verifiable, and there is clear evidence of why the subject is notable and worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia. If additional reliable sources cannot be found for the subject, then it may not be suitable for Wikipedia at this time.

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SwisterTwister talk 06:24, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Good catch. However, she is my opinion important and interesting enough that I am rewriting the article. Besides the first section which was copyvio from the source given, most of the rest is probably copied also, and I plan to cut out everything not directly about her, and rewrite the rest. DGG ( talk ) 19:21, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

@DGG: Sure! Also, I thought of working on another holocaust survivor, Draft:Jona Laks. Going to try to bluelink some of those people from the List of Holocaust survivors. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 06:20, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank. I'll be glad to look at it. It can be difficult to do this properly without copyvio, but in most cases the detail is better summarized. I'm also going to check the links & content for the pages of the various Auschwitz physicians DGG ( talk ) 06:35, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

I appreciate your diligence in maintaining the integrity of the page regarding the fairy tale The Light Princess, however I disagree that the change I made was not constructive. Extensive information about an adaptation of the fairy tale belongs on its own page, as has been done with works like Kinky Boots (film), Wicked (Maguire novel), and other stories and media that have been adapted to stage productions. I'd be interested in seeing other examples of articles in the style of this one, as it doesn't make sense to have so much information not relevant to the original work, for which the page is titled. Please share your thoughts. Thanks. Eric.yarham (talk) 16:43, 18 January 2016 (UTC)

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Bharath means Bharat. The so called actor's original page is Bharath_(actor) Bharath is also another name for India and various cultural things pertaining to the Indian subcontinent. Please have a look at Bharat. Abesam (talk) 18:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Kindly refrain from alleging that something is vandalism without proper research. Such posts only discourage dedicated editors from becoming credible. Abesam (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

I added more sources and details to Kurdish-Turkish conflict (1978-present) and that guy prevented my changes. He says that only captured soldiers who are not released be in the infobox and not all captured. I really don't understand his logic. Can you please help me with this?Ferakp (talk) 11:10, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

@Ferakp: First of all don't revert it. Keep trying to discuss it on the talk page. I see it has temporarily stopped, however tell me if it resumes. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:02, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Ok, thanksFerakp (talk) 19:00, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

If you want we can start the training from this Monday. I'll revise a few sections of my training page before that. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:04, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta: Sure! Thank you! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 10:07, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

• Sure. --Tito Dutta (talk) 10:22, 16 January 2016 (UTC)

@Titodutta: When do you plan on starting? Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:36, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

• I got stuck with a relative's health issue and a couple of Wikithings including an edit-a-thon. Tomorrow we'll start for sure. --Tito Dutta (talk) 15:38, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi,

There is tendentious user Ottomanor who is copy pasting "terrorist" words to Kurdish articles. Probably vandalizing. He did it in Kurdistan Workers' Party and Kurdish-Turkish conflict (1978-present). I called someone to help in chat and he/she reversed his changes in KWP. I reversed his changes in KTConflict. Should I report him?Ferakp (talk) 16:07, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

•  Note: Discussion at IRC. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 16:17, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi DatGuy,

what was your precise reason for reverting the change? I just watched this interview and she said herself, that since she had kids, she is no longer a vegetarian, but a pescatarian.

Cheers

You did not prove that by linking the interview. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:27, 21 January 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I did:

She is a pescatarian

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I'm stunned by people like you. Have you even watched the provided link? Did you see it's from the Account of "The Royal Insitution", which has editorial oversight?

You want to look in the rulebook of wikipedia for citing youtube: YouTube and similar sites do not have editorial oversight engaged in scrutinizing content so editors need to watch out for the potential unreliability of the user uploading the video. There are channels for videos uploaded by agencies and organizations generally considered reliable such as that of the Associated Press on YouTube. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Videos_as_references)

So if you want to keep the false statement of Alice being a vegetarian, be my guest. But you do work actively against truth and knowledge. Live long and prosper.

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	For being an inseparable bastion of the line of defence against vandalism on Wikipedia! —azuki (talk · contribs · email) 00:39, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Eat me, I'm an azuki: Thank you! I try to amount at least 100 anti-vandalism edits a day Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 06:21, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

DatGuy, thanks for reaching out. I've submitted a page for review on behalf of a client and am currently waiting to hear back. A few questions on that point: 1) Is there a way to pull the article so I don't get in trouble given my COI? 2) If the article is reviewed and accepted, do I have to take any further steps if I'd like to make future edits? 3) If my article is denied, should I have you review and approve it, and then have you submit it?

I'm so glad you adopted me- I've been waiting for over a month to have help and you now here you are! :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CommsPro123 (talk • contribs) 16:51, 22 January 2016 (UTC) CommsPro123 (talk) 16:58, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@CommsPro123: I am a bit busy right now, will be back for more detailed questions in an hour. Any-ways, I have created a page, Draft:Xavier Information Systems for you to edit. Not sure what you mean by your second question, and I might review the draft only if I am sure that it will be accepted. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:01, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

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Tito Dutta (talk) 16:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• One more. --Tito Dutta (talk) 20:37, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

TOTALLY FAKE: NO SUCH NATIONAL OR STATE-OWNED COMPANY EVER EXISTS OR EXISTED IN CHINA.

Sorry. No time to explain. --121.44.225.51 (talk) 15:54, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

I apologize, however you must explain. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:56, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Please search in English or Chinese, eg via Google News or LinkedIn. It is easy to check the complete list of the central state-owned companies: http://www.sasac.gov.cn/n86114/n86137/index.html of the PRC (sorry, no English version of the list on their official site.)

Such huge Chinese "National Group" in is too famous to exist. Only Big 3 "National" oil/gas groups there (plus SinoChem if for refining).

The only source is too ridiculous to look like a "national"-level official website. It just lists some oil refining companies (the first being a local branch of SINOPEC, one of the Big 3) and fake a title of "National Group" even with a semantically wrong Chinese image title ("China National Refinery-Factory Group Corporation" instead of its claimed text "China National Refinery Corporation").

The "National Group"'s attempted website provides no telephone number but a contact address whose format is wrong (corrected: Suite 3801, K. Wah Centre, No. 1010, Middle Huaihai Road, Shanghai, 200031, China) The address has been used by other companies.

Thanks --121.44.225.51 (talk) 16:11, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Hm. I tagged the article for deletion, we'll see what an administrator thinks of it. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 16:15, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Sorry for not giving enough explanation. --121.44.225.51 (talk) 16:19, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

• Hi there! I stumbled on the article while patrolling speedys and my search came up with a website, which made me question the A11 criteria and made me think that no one had looked into this (my mistake). I finally came over to your talk page. This is a puzzling case! A few things about this article are weird. The creator of the article, Luckylehana only made a few edits ever, and none of them are screaming out at me as hoaxes or vandalism. Also, the way that the unnamed user above can't explain anything is strange. The fact that the English version of a Chinese site looks "weird" isn't a reason to think it's not real. A lot of Chinese web sites look that way (I do a few Chinese bios). If you want to have more eyes look at this, send it up to AfD. A Speedy isn't the best way to get this done, since they fly below the radar. I tagged the article with a WikiProject China, and it might be a good idea to ask for help, there, too. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 23:29, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

@Megalibrarygirl: At first I had my doubts, but I fell in for the IP after the proof he gave me. Was not sure about this either way, and since I don't understand Chinese I will let this go. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 23:37, 22 January 2016 (UTC)

I understand. It's super weird. Megalibrarygirl (talk) 00:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

I am a Chinese speaking Standard Chinese from Shanghai. I read news about China's politics and economy every day. It is very apparent to any reasonable Chinese that such huge corp. does not really exist. That website itself is not a reliable source. I found a list of the top-level state-owned companies in English, however old: http://www.gov.cn/misc/2005-10/21/content_80894.htm. But a recent Chinese version can be machine-translated: http://www.sasac.gov.cn/n86114/n86137/index.html. See also: List of government-owned companies of China. Can you believe that "National Group" has only that isolated website-building practice (No any other source or any external link to it) only in English (no Chinese version)? Thank you. -- 121.44.225.51 (talk) 03:13, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

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Onel5969 ^{TT me} 13:04, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Did you read the manual of style yet? The issues I saw were the use of abbreviations, such as 1st, not spelling numbers as words in text eg 4 should read "four". Also there was wrong capitalisation of headings, and wrong placement of reference tags. The idea is for you to read the manual of style and identify what you have been doing differently from it. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:46, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

@Graeme Bartlett: As English isn't my first language (although I contribute at a native level), manual of style is quite hard for me. In Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers I couldn't find anything about when to change 4 to four or about 1st or first. That's partly what I would like to use AWB for. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 22:12, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

For AWB we actually want the operator to be able to tell if it is making the right suggestions, so that they can take responsibility for it. AWB is not a substitute for knowing what to do. AWB is to make doing the right thing faster. Let me know when your comprehension of manual of style is good enough. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

...for handling the BankVic SPI thing, I was going to get to it tonight. Great results! BMK (talk) 23:46, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

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@Caballero1967: Thank you! Some more anti-vandalism edits and you'll soon get rollback! Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 06:30, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Hello - I had received a message that I had had a sockpuppetry investigation opened on my Talk page. I followed up with a message on the investigation page; as I noted, it is my intent to abide by Wikipedia's policies, but there are specific issues with this situation which I would like to have addressed. Thank you very much for your attention.Veritas20132014 (talk) 03:24, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

Hi DatGuy.

My apologies, I was trying to tag the page for speedy deletion as its a duplicate of "Fina Biosolutions LLC". I'm working on expanding that page today so it isn't a stub.

No problem. Thanks for clearing it up. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 15:31, 29 January 2016 (UTC)

To:

DatGuy:

Thank you for the mind-numbing array of tools and reference material. I'm sure my technique was crude and perhaps out of the bounds necessary for consideration.

But my question is simple. I suggested two additions in good faith. Have they been rejected? Are they being considered? They are both legitimate additions to the page "People from Park Ridge, Illinois," and I was hoping they'd be added.

I really don't have the man-days necessary to master all the resources you've provided. I just wanted to add three names. Is there a simple way I can do that? Or are my additions undergoing some scrutiny?

Thank you,

Tom Lauterback TKL60124 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tkl60124 (talk • contribs) 16:42, 30 January 2016 (UTC)

@Tkl60124: Hello! The first recent edit you did is fine. Your second recent edit though, was not. See, we use the Wikipedia:Edit summary to explain what we did. We do not need to add text to the article itself to show what we did. Dat Guy^Talk_Contribs 17:05, 30 January 2016 (UTC)