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Say it on their talk page. Don't go from page to page after them and indirectly undo most of their edits. It is absolutely leadworthy that songs whose sole purpose for being were as entrants in Eurovision did or did not make the final. The lead is a summary of the contents of the article, or supposed to be. It is therefore important to note their performance in the lead. Ss11223:35, 18 May 2019 (UTC)
@Ss112: Wow, calm down! FYI, I did not "undo" your edits, I simply moved the content you were adding from the lead into another section within the article. If you notice in previous editions of the contest, from 2017 and 2018 to be exact, none of the song articles mention anything about their non qualification in the lead; take a look at Montenegro's song Inje from last year and Space from 2017. These articles are supposed to emphasize more on the song and not just on their participation at Eurovision, since most of these songs even chart in some territories, it is inaccurate to say that they were just made for Eurovision. By the way, I don't have a problem with your edits, that is obviously why I didn't think it was necessary to write a comment on your talk page regarding this "issue", which isn't even an issue to begin with. I seriously don't get why you've made such a big deal about this. CycloneYoristalk!06:45, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Are you for real right now, tagging me in retaliatory edit summaries? As I said, perhaps you need to learn proper grammar and do a quick Google search if you think "did not progress to" is not proper grammar. Progress is both a noun and a verb. Here it was being used as a verb. I encourage you, Google it. It absolutely is correct grammar—I'd love to know how you think it isn't. If you still think it isn't, perhaps we can get a copy editor from the GOCE to tell you it is. The song did not gain enough points to qualify or progress to the final. Either wording is fine because they both mean the same damn thing—simple as that. I don't care what previous Eurovision articles have done. That's an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument. What's been done in the past or elsewhere is not always best for others. No need to ping me. Ss11209:45, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
Why shouldn't I ping you? You did the same thing to me when you reverted all of my edits on the Az én apám article. There is certainly nothing wrong with trying to make grammar corrections to your edits; I also encourage you to be civil when writing on my talk page, you come off as being rude and impertinent and there is no need to act in that manner, especially since I haven't been rude to you. CycloneYoristalk!10:02, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
I meant no need to ping me when you reply here. Also, they're not "corrections", you are talking about preferred wording within Eurovision articles because the show uses the word "qualify". There's a difference between preference and an actual mistake. Unless there is a Eurovision style guide that says we must say "qualify", even though readers will gather exactly the same thing—that Eurovision is a competition, the song was an entry and did not make the final—there is no need to change it. You are being rude—you tagged me in an edit summary claiming I made a grammar mistake as a way of retaliating against me because you're annoyed. Get over it. I also used the wording "qualify" on some articles, but I chose not to do this on all of them to change it up so I was not just copypasting the same sentence. If you continue changing all articles you can find that I've edited to say "qualify", we will have a more of an issue and I will involve an admin because that will not be a correction, it will be you having it out for somebody else. Bye. Ss11210:37, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
As far as I know, everyone inside the Eurovision world uses the word "qualify" instead of "progressed" when referring to a song that did not reach the final. Why should I be annoyed about that? Don't be silly. And please stop posting messages here on my talk page, we have already seemed to have resolved this issue and there is no need to dwell on it any longer. Bye. CycloneYoristalk!11:07, 19 May 2019 (UTC)
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History of tropical cyclone naming - The practice of using names to identify tropical cyclones goes back several centuries, with storms named after places, saints or things they hit before the formal start of naming in each basin. The credit for the first usage of personal names for weather systems is given to the Queensland Government MeteorologistClement Wragge, who named tropical cyclones and anticyclones between 1887 and 1907. This system of naming fell into disuse for several years after Wragge retired, until it was revived in the latter part of World War II for the Western Pacific basin. Over the following decades, various naming schemes have been introduced for the world's oceans, including for parts of the Atlantic, Pacific and the Indian Ocean. The majority of these lists are compiled by the World Meteorological Organization's tropical cyclone committee for the region and include names from different cultures as well as languages. Over the years there has been controversy over the names used at various times, with names being dropped for religious and political reasons. For example, female names were exclusively used in the basins at various times between 1945 - 2000 and were the subject of several protests. The names of significant tropical cyclones in the North Atlantic Ocean, Pacific Ocean and Australian region are retired from the naming lists and replaced with another name, at meetings of the various tropical cyclone committees.
Storm of the month and other tropical activity
Cyclone Fani was an extremely severe cyclonic storm that made landfall in Odisha, India on May 3. The storm achieved peak intensity as a near Category 5-equivalent cyclone with 3-minute sustained winds of 215 km/h (130 mph), 1-minute sustained winds of 250 km/h (155 mph), and a minimum central pressure of 937 hPa (mbar). Fani caused over $1.8 billion (2019 USD) in damage in India and Bangladesh and killed at least 89 people.
Since the last newsletter, twelve systems have formed.
Southwest Indian Ocean
In the Southwest Indian Ocean, Cyclone Kenneth made landfall in Mozambique approximately 1 month after Cyclone Idai, causing widespread flooding and destruction. Overall, Kenneth killed at least 52 people and caused more than $100 million in damage. Additionally, Tropical Cyclone Lorna formed over the eastern portion of the basin in late April and dissipated in early May without affecting land.
Australian Region
In the Australian Region, cyclones Lili and Ann formed in early May and both affected land. No deaths were reported, although Lili caused moderate damage in the Maluku Islands and East Timor.
South Pacific
In the South Pacific, a tropical depression formed in mid-may, but failed to intensify and dissipated a few days later.
South Atlantic
In the South Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Jaguar formed in late May and lasted for approximately two days before becoming extratropical.
Western Pacific
In the Western Pacific, three weak tropical depressions existed during the first half of May.
North Atlantic
In the North Atlantic, Subtropical Storm Andrea formed on the same day as Jaguar, but failed to intensify and dissipated on the next day.
The Eastern Pacific hurricane season began on May 15.
The Atlantic hurricane season will begin at 2:00 AM EDT on June 1.
The Central Pacific hurricane season will begin sometime after 12:00 AM HST on June 1.
New WikiProject Members since the last newsletter in April 2019
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To our new members: welcome to the project, and happy editing! Feel free to check the to-do list at the bottom right of the newsletter for things that you might want to work on. To our veteran members: thank you for your edits and your tireless contributions!
Every year, editors new and old help maintain the new season of season articles. The older users are likely used to the standards of the project, such as how to Wikilink and reference properly. Newer users might make mistakes, and they might make them over and over again if they don't know better. If anyone (who happens to read this) comes across a new user, please don't bite, because with enough pushback, they'll decide that this group of editors is too mean, and unfun. This is all a volunteer project; no one can force anyone to do anything. We're all on here because of our love of knowledge and tropical cyclones. If you find someone new, consider using the official WPTC welcome template - Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones/Welcome.
I also encourage that if you know any tropical cyclone researchers, please speak up and try recruiting them to edit. Veteran editors can't keep editing forever. Life gets busy, and the real world beckons!
Yellow Evan has been involved with WPTC since 2008. Since the last newsletter, Yellow Evan has taken 5 typhoon articles to good article status as well as created 2 more. Overall, he has created and/or significantly contributed to more than 130 good articles. Your work in the Western Pacific Basin is invaluable... Thank you for your contributions!
Latest WikiProject Alerts
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This section lists content that have become featured, articles and lists, since the past newsletter in mid-April 2019. From April 14–May 31, 2019, 1 featured article was promoted:
An awards program for the project began on May 31. It involves 25 levels that may be gained by earning points for completing various actions such as getting good or featured articles. Additional awards will be added in the future.
As of this news letter, there are more articles ranked a good article or better (1317) than articles ranked B-class or worse (1272), for the first time in the project's history.
Every Atlantic hurricane season from 1945 to 2007 is rated at least a GA. That is an impressive feat, and an incredibly body of work among many editors.
Cyclone Raja became the 150th featured article in the project. Thanks to all of the editors and their tireless edits for writing 2.7% of all of Wikipedia's featured articles.
In the 24 hours after Hurricane Michael's TCR was released, the article on the hurricane was edited 82 times by 18 different users.
In March 2019, the most popular article in the project was Cyclone Idai, viewed 231,969 times during the month. The generic cyclone was 2nd most popular, with 131,080 views. In 3rd place was Hurricane Katrina with 112,283 views. Included in the top 20 were the 2018 and 19 Atlantic hurricane seasons, hurricanes Michael, Florence, Irma, Maria, and Harvey, and the 1896 Cedar Keys hurricane, which was TFA on March 20th.
Tropical cyclones by year - from 2000 to present, there were 2,490 tropical cyclones of various intensity, causing a collective $1 trillion in damage and 200,000 deaths
Assessments valid as of this printing. Depending on when you may be viewing this newsletter, the table may be outdated. See here for the latest, most up to date statistics. As of this issue, there are 150 featured articles and 69 featured lists. There are 142 A-class articles, but that number is subject to change, depending if we mandate that all A-class articles have an A-class review first. There are 956 good articles, meaning it is possible we get to our 1000th GA by the end of the year. There are only 61 B-class articles, perhaps because because most articles of that quality already passed a GA review. There are 350 C-class articles, 720 start-class articles, and 141 stub-class articles, with 29 lists and 8 current articles. The number of lists may decrease further as the "Tropical cyclone X" articles continue to be reclassified as set index articles. These figures mean that nearly half of the project is rated a GA or better - including the lists/current/future articles, there are 1272 articles that are below GA status, versus 1317 that are GA or better.
WPTC 15th Anniversary push: some goals for the 15th year of WPTC include the creation or improvement of many other articles listed in the first section on the WPTC talk page.
Project Goals & Progress
The following is the current progress on the three milestone goals set by the WikiProject as of this publishing. They can be found, updated, at the main WikiProject page.
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