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Your edit on Tonyukuk

How did this happen? Can't see it on your edit history. Beshogur (talk) 13:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Try this search instead – it's just above dwarf lizard. And it looks like ref has since been improved. Cremastra 🎄 uc 🎄 15:41, 28 December 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I see know. The website is down, and turned into a illegal betting website. I was confused. Beshogur (talk) 16:23, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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Leech article

Hello. Do you plan on getting that leech article to FA? We could use more of them. LittleJerry (talk) 00:50, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Ha ha, maybe one day. I'll focus on GA for now, since it'll be my first if it passes. My "secret" goal was actually to make Macrobdella a good topic, but that might actually be more work than an FA. Thanks for the encouragement, though. Cremastra (uc) 00:52, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject AI Cleanup/AI images in non-AI contexts

Thanks for helping to bring this up to date! The page is trying to keep track of for what reasons, if any, that they were kept in or removed from articles, I assume to give some grist to any future policy discussions on the subject, so it'd be good to have a few words recorded on why each image was considered unsuitable. Belbury (talk) 19:09, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks, I've added explanations based on the edit summaries. Cremastra (uc) 19:27, 3 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Macrobdella decora

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Your GA nomination of Macrobdella decora

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Your GA nomination of Macrobdella decora

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Your recent edit on Overdale, Telford

Hi, I noticed you deleted this article without first discussing it with the relevant geography page. Please do not delete page based on your opinion. It needs to be discussed first with other editors. Thanks DragonofBatley (talk) 22:26, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

I have responded on your talk page after my WP:BOLD action, as per WP:BRD. I also see that you wrote this article today, well after concerns of text/source integrity and factual accuracy were raised on your talk page. I'm confused as to how this keeps happening. These do not seem to be plausible mistakes to make. Cremastra (uc) 23:18, 6 January 2025 (UTC)

RFC Notice

Hello, this notice is for everyone who took part in the 2023 RfC on lists of airline destinations. I have started a new RfC on the subject. If you would like to participate please follow this link: Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not § RfC on WP:NOT and British Airways destinations. Sunnya343 (talk) 01:10, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Arthur Phillip

Thankyou for your work on the article to help it be saved at the GAR. – Kavyansh.Singh (talk) 12:12, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

You're welcome. Cremastra (uc) 12:58, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Hi, thank you for your contributions. I note your recent undo of the dabpage at Left brain.

I had originally done this as a straight hatnote[1], but was reverted.

Keeping the primary redirect and creating Left brain (disambiguation) doesn't work, as it becomes a case of WP:ONEOTHER.

Left brain/Left Brain are definitely ambiguous and this needs to be addressed somehow. How do you propose we do so? 162 etc. (talk) 16:55, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

You're right about WP:ONEOTHER, I'd forgotten about that.
The hatnote seems like the right approach given that there is scope for confusion here. @Opolito: you removed the hatnote, can you clarify why you think it's a problem? Thanks, Cremastra (uc) 21:05, 8 January 2025 (UTC)
The musician Left Brain isn't notable - the previous page about them was deleted because of that. The discography page clearly isn't notable either and will be deleted shortly. Opolito (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Draughton, North Yorkshire

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Notice of Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents discussion

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Yes, I got DragonofBatley's ping already. Thanks, Cremastra (uc) 23:02, 13 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Draughton, North Yorkshire

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@Vigilantcosmicpenguin Thanks for a fair and speedy review! Cremastra (uc) 20:42, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Thanks?

Okay, Vanderwaalforces, you've piqued my curiosity: why did you thank me for this edit? :) Cremastra (uc) 21:56, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

Hehe, I was actually seeing you do the SuggestBot thingy... I was wondering what you were doing, but as soon as I saw the "Utterly unhelpful", I was like "I thought as much, thanks!", lol Vanderwaalforces (talk) 22:05, 14 January 2025 (UTC)

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Clean-up

Hi - very much appreciate the offer to work on this. I've done a table here, User:KJP1/sandbox10-DoB. It's basically the CCI approach:

  • Review the article
  • Take any remedial action - redraft/re-source/delete content/merge/AfD etc.
  • Note the decision in the final column - just over-write any existing wikicode.
  • Record any wider issues, questions/learning points for DoB at the top.

Rupples and I have tried a few for size, and it seems to work, but completely open to any suggestions for improvement. The more difficult issue is how to effectively involve DoB. That's of course essential, but may prove harder to achieve. Again, any suggestions welcome. KJP1 (talk) 16:53, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Looks good, I've gotten started. Cremastra (uc) 18:05, 18 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Balanus trigonus

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DYK for Castilleja chromosa

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Ganesha811 (talk) 12:02, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

Credit for this should go to or at the very least be shared with MtBotany, who has written most of the article. Cremastra (uc) 15:32, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Though I'm not that concerned with credit for DYK. I just love seeing plants get onto Wikipedia's front page. Also: group effort. I probably would have put this species off for another year while being distracted by other species. Seeing others work on it inspired me to pitch in. 🌿MtBotany (talk) 22:00, 19 January 2025 (UTC)
Cremastra (talk) 22:01, 19 January 2025 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

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Co-awarded to you and MtBotany for your work at Castilleja chromosa. TheTechnician27 (Talk page) 13:07, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

2025

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2025 opened with trumpet fanfares that first sounded OTD in 1725 (as the Main page had). Today I had a composer (trumpeter, conductor) on the main page who worked closely with another who just became GA, - small world! To celebrate: mostly flowers pics from vacation ;) - Thank you for improving article quality in January! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:35, 21 January 2025 (UTC)

RfD Closure

Hey @Cremastra, could you possibly relist your closure at Wikipedia:Redirects_for_discussion/Log/2025_January_11#BlSOD? The two keep votes argue that the term is used in sources, but the sources listed by Bugghost exclusively use BlSoD (another redirect which seems appropriate). The main issue of my RfD (this particular capitalization is not used and therefore should be deleted) does not have any arguments against. Thanks! ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 12:33, 20 January 2025 (UTC)

@Bunnypranav Noting that I have seen this and will respond in detail presently... I have a GAN to work on.
I do not think that capitalisation is a defining issue here and there was consensus that the redirect was appropriate. To me, that consensus implies that the capitalisation is not a defining feature of the redirect and that "BlSOD" is satisfactorily equivalent to "BlSoD". In any case, if BugGhost's sources didn't satisfy your concerns, a ten-second search yields some more [2] [3] [4]. Cremastra (talk) 21:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)
To elaborate, I'm willing to withdraw my closure and relist, but I'll need confirmation and a bit of further evidence from you before proceeding in that direction. As it stands, I'm happy with the close I made. Cremastra (talk) 20:46, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks for the links you gave. My search engine for some reason just showed Blood, even with the "BlSOD" search modifiers (whole reason I did an RfD instead of just patrolling it). I do not have any wishes to relist ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Okay, cheers. Cremastra (talk) 13:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Balanus trigonus

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Reward Board: Pushing Asia towards GA Status

Hello! as per [5] I am informing you that I have started editing Asia with the intent to reach GA. It is my first thrust into the content assessment system so wish me luck. Relm (talk) 00:24, 25 January 2025 (UTC)

@RelmC I do wish you luck, but also, less appealingly, caution. GAs are difficult – I'll note that my first four nominations failed – and they're even harder for broad articles like Asia. I'm sure you'll succeed, but take it slowly and don't be disspirited if your first nomination fails. Cremastra (talk) 22:05, 26 January 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! I will keep that in mind. Relm (talk) 23:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)

Denali - 1 week of RM discussion?

Boy that was a quick close, especially with it being so active even today. I've seen discussions opened over a month before they are closed. Fyunck(click) (talk) 19:48, 1 February 2025 (UTC)

Ideally things shouldn't be relisted. Often relisting is done because there's less participation and more discussion is needed. Here there was a positive surfeit of participation, so a relist wouldn't help matters, I think. Cremastra (talk) 21:38, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
This close was poorly-thought out, please undo this, let the discussion run its course. 1 week to declare a weak "no consensus" is absurd. Zaathras (talk) 22:00, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
@Zaathras I'm happy to reconsider my closure, but I don't think it was too early. WP:RMCI tells us: Relisting is an option when a discussion cannot otherwise be closed, usually due to lack of consensus. Editors are under no obligation to wait to close a move request after it is relisted. Once a move request has been open for the full seven days, it may be closed at any time by an uninvolved editor. Cremastra (talk) 22:04, 1 February 2025 (UTC)
I also don't think that relisting it would've changed the outcome since the same points are getting made over and over again since about day 2 - rather, it would've just prolonged the agony of that discussion. I probably would've closed it as not moved rather than no consensus, but the end result is the same. Turnagra (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

DYK for Tesseropora rosea

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charlotte 👸♥ 00:22, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

Move review for Denali

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Zaathras I have responded at the move review, and as I said there I think this is unnecessary drama. Cremastra (talk) 18:16, 2 February 2025 (UTC)

John Dickerson talk page

Could you please fix the page move for Talk:John Dickerson (journalist) to Talk:John Dickerson in which its main article already moved? Because when i typed the latter, it redirects to DAB page, which now named Talk:John Dickerson (disambiguation). 103.111.100.82 (talk) 12:04, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for telling me, since I clearly didn't notice when I moved the article. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 13:31, 3 February 2025 (UTC)

January 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award

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DYK for Macrobdella decora

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RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 9 February 2025 (UTC)

25,700 ! :) Cremastra (talk) 12:20, 10 February 2025 (UTC)
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Thank you for improving article quality in March! -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 23:10, 20 March 2025 (UTC)

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DYK for Chtonobdella limbata

On 6 April 2025, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Chtonobdella limbata, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the leech Chtonobdella limbata (example pictured) can survive months without any water by entering an inanimate state? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Chtonobdella limbata. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Chtonobdella limbata), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

RoySmith (talk) 00:02, 6 April 2025 (UTC)

Sometimes when I'm months dehydrated I go into an inanimate state, but unlike this guy its probably not by choice. Panini! 🥪 03:29, 6 April 2025 (UTC)
And you discovered this ability when?...during your famous cross-Kalahari voyage? :) Cremastra talk 12:17, 7 April 2025 (UTC)

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A message from Konsadel

Hi Cremestra.

about your rollback edits: you could have checked before you edit. it's all on the web. 

my painting in the permanent collection of SFMoMA https://www.sfmoma.org/artwork/2016.546/

AmorePacific Museum in Seoul has a complicated webpage but here my work was shown in the recent acquisitions show https://www.apgroup.com/int/en/news/2023-05-31-1.html

Paris Musee d'Art Moderne is very recent I got the approval letter last week and can send you a scan of the letter from the museum director.

I am represented by Saenger Mexico City since 4 years https://saengergaleria.com/artists/47-robert-janitz/

I am not good with wiki obviously I have an account which I forgot the password, now I have it again. Konsadel on wikipedia.

thanks for a feedback if this edit follows the rules.


Konsadel (talk) 23:21, 13 April 2025 (UTC)

Thank you for leaving a message, @Konsadel. I'm not doubting that the information I removed was true, I'm just saying it wasn't verified. Please see WP:REFB. Thanks. Cremastra talk 12:21, 14 April 2025 (UTC)

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cmɢʟeeτaʟκ 18:29, 16 April 2025 (UTC)

*A*I *I*mage *B*an

What about AIIB, to make it clear it's specifically image focused as opposed to a wider llm consideration? CMD (talk) 22:23, 15 April 2025 (UTC)

Sure. WP:AIIB Cremastra talk 22:46, 15 April 2025 (UTC)
I'm having trouble intuitively understanding "AIB". As AI is already an acronym, "AIB" reads as a full "AI Ban", which for all its merits is a broader proposal than one focused just on images. Do you have thoughts on this, before it embeds? CMD (talk) 16:45, 17 April 2025 (UTC)
You're not wrong, but shortcuts are generally designed for brevity rather than precision. Cremastra talk 19:44, 17 April 2025 (UTC)

Where the Quote Was

You reverted my addition of the Gregory Maguire tribute from Maurice Sendak. With respect, I think that was a mistake. Perhaps the quote was overly long (I do have a tendency to do add overly long quotes) but Maguire is one of many authors mentored by Sendak, and authored an appreciation of him (Making Mischief), so I think it's valuable. Plus the article it's excerpted from is worth reading (Maurice Sendak, King of All Wild Things, CNN.)

I propose we condense the quote rather than removing it. Here's the heart of the matter: "Children are full humans, compromised only by their lack of vocabulary and practice in reporting how they live. But they live as fully as Sendak himself lived right up to his last months and weeks and hours." That gets to the heart of why Sendak matters. And, maybe, "meanwhile, as he passes away, some more sentimental scrap of me (that he would have scorned) hopes he is settling down to some nice bowl of chicken soup with rice with Emily Dickinson or Herman Melville. Though they have been impatient to meet him in person for a very long time, no doubt they’ll greet him as a fellow king.

By now, Sendak is finding his dinner waiting for him.

And it is still hot."

Fair? Charlie Faust (talk) 20:31, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Fair. Cremastra talk 22:00, 18 April 2025 (UTC)
Glad that's settled, and that we could have a civil conversation about this. Charlie Faust (talk) 23:05, 18 April 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Chtonobdella limbata

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April blitz bling

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Your GA nomination of Chtonobdella limbata

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Maxillopoda

Hi Cremastra, In your comments regarding your reinstatement of the Maxillopoda article, you mentioned that it should be retained because articles on other non-valid taxa also exist (WP:OTHER). However, in general we are trying to eliminate such articles on non-valid taxa across the Tree of Life projects.

The 2022 changes of Maxillopoda to a redirect were part of a larger clean up where older (and now unaccepted) taxonomy was deleted and the former taxon information included in a taxonomically accepted related article. The status of the Maxillopoda article and its information was previously discussed on WikiProject Arthropods (here and here).

If information on a disused taxon is still relevant to the encyclopedia it should instead be presented as a subtopic of an accepted taxon. 'Cheers, Loopy30 (talk) 23:52, 22 April 2025 (UTC)

Okay, thank you for the explanation.
I think we'll have to have {{maxillopoda-stub}} deleted in that case. Cremastra talk 00:19, 23 April 2025 (UTC)

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Your GA nomination of Chtonobdella limbata

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Crinochaeta template

Absence of |extinct= has no impact on the functioning of a taxonomy template. I routinely remove it for extant taxa. I guess what happened it that I saved Template:Taxonomy/Crinocheta before I created the parent taxonomy template. Usually if do that, I go back and make a null edit to the child template once I've created the parent, which fixes things. I guess I failed to do that in this case, but I'm really surprised the problem persisted for so long. The system usually finds the once missing parent template on it's own, and my impression was that it does so fairly quickly (like, less than an hour).

On the other end of things, if a chain of taxonomy templates is created in quick succession a child template may fail to pick up a parent template that was just created. The time frame on that being a possible problem is very short; maybe a couple seconds at most. But if the child is saved within that time frame, it can take awhile for the problem to resolve if nobody makes a subsequent edit (but again, "awhile" in that scenario should be the same as if the child was saved before the parent; I'd expect it to work out on it's own within an hour).

How did you notice the problem? Were you checking an error tracking category for taxonomy templates, or do you notice a woodlouse article with a broken taxobox? Plantdrew (talk) 01:12, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

I see. I thought that maybe the extinct parameter was mandatory, since the documentation implied it should only be left blank. I noticed several woodlouse articles with broken taxoboxes. Cremastra talk 12:25, 25 April 2025 (UTC)
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story · music · places

Congratulations! - My story is about music that Bach and Picander gave the world 300 years (and 19 days) ago, - listen (on the conductor's birthday) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:27, 20 April 2025 (UTC)

I finally managed to upload the pics I meant for Easter, see places. - Also finally, I managed a FAC, Easter Oratorio. I wanted that on the main page for Easter Sunday, but no, twice. You are invited to join a discussion about what "On this day" means, day or date. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:54, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

Very nice picture – the trees in the background are great. Cremastra talk 20:55, 25 April 2025 (UTC)

WikiCup 2025 May newsletter

The second round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 April at 23:59 UTC. To reiterate what we said in the previous newsletter, we are no longer disqualifying contestants based on how many points (now known as round points) they received. Instead, the contestants with the highest round-point totals now receive tournament points at the end of each round. These tournament points are carried over between rounds, and can only be earned if a competitor is among the top 16 round-point scorers at the end of each round. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far. Everyone who competed in round 2 will advance to round 3 unless they have withdrawn or been banned.

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The full scores for round 2 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 13 featured articles, 20 featured lists, 4 featured-topic articles, 138 good articles, 7 good-topic articles, and more than 100 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 19 In the News articles, and they have conducted nearly 300 reviews.

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Your GA nomination of Oniscus asellus

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Question from Bulldogparkerfan (14:51, 30 April 2025)

How do I create a Wikipedia page for someone that should have one but doesn't? --Bulldogparkerfan (talk) 14:51, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

@Bulldogparkerfan: this is a common question for new editors, but I might need to some more information to help you through the process.
The short answer: go here to write a draft and then submit it for review. If you don't read the long answer, your draft will nearly certainly be declined.
The long answer:
1. First, to help you I'm going to need some more information. Who is this person, and why "should" they have an article?
2. Wikipedia only covers topics which are "notable" — not notable in the sense of famous, but in a very specific Wikipedia sense: that the topic is well-covered or important enough to merit coverage. If we didn't have these inclusion guidelines, we'd be overrun with articles about, say, peoples' pet cats, which would be nice but not very fitting for an encyclopedia.
  • How do you determine if something is notable? If you're writing about a person, you'll want to check out this guideline. On that same page, there are more specific guidelines for different sorts of people. For example, national politicians, people with significant roles in multiple notable films, etc., are all presumed to be notable topics.
  • If you tell me who you want to write about, I'm happy to help you assess their notability.
3. The second part of your comment makes me wonder why this person needs to have an article. If you just think we have a gap in our coverage, that's great! That's how most new articles get written. I actually first joined Wikipedia because I thought there were gaps in our coverage of centipedes.
But if you think this person needs an article because you've been paid to promote them, or are a fan and want to promote them on Wikipedia, you need to make very sure you're writing from a neutral point of view. That doesn't mean you can't write the article though.
I don't think this is the case, but if you are getting paid to write an article, or have a conflict of interest with the subject, this will get a lot more complicated.
I get that this is a lot; please don't rush through this process. Writing a first article is difficult. If you can tell me who the person is and why you want them to have an article, that'll be a good first step.
I'll also leave a standard set of links on your talk page to some of Wikipedia's guidelines and policies, to help find your way around the encyclopedia. I'd suggest you make some small improvements to articles you're interested in to get used to the editing process. You should have a homepage that you can configure to give you editing suggestions.
If you have any more questions (small or large), don't hesitate to ask me or post a message at the Teahouse, a forum where new editors can get help.
Cheers, Cremastra talk 19:59, 30 April 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Brotheresnousers (04:00, 2 May 2025)

Yo wsp --Brotheresnousers (talk) 04:00, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi! Can I help you with anything specific? Cremastra talk 11:52, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Cuyahoga River questions

Hello Cremastra, I am a new editor to Wikipedia and have been working on the article "Cuyahoga River." I noticed some of the information I added was removed a few weeks ago and wanted to know if you could help me improve it. I would have reached out sooner, but I initially believed that I had simply forgotten to publish my additions (and also why I initially added it back). If there is any advice you could share or sources you could direct me too, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you for your work on Wikipedia. EEL1917 (talk) 17:09, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

@EEL1917 Sorry, this is going to be an unhelpful reply, because I don't believe I removed your edits. I reverted a copyright violation added just before by a different user, but your edits should still be standing, although the diffs are now deleted due to the page at that time containing a copyright violation. I assume you're talking about your edits on 18 April. Looking at the revision history, NicoEroles (the copyright violator) added 611 and then 762 bytes to the page; you then added several thousand bytes, and I then removed 762 and 611 bytes, corresponding to NicoEroles' plagiarism. However, I'm not an administrator and can't look at deleted revisions, so I can't see what you added to confirm it's still in the article.
In any case, I wouldn't be the editor to ask for advice on that article as I don't know much about the subject area. If it was an article about an animal, plant, or populated place, I'd probably have useful advice, but you know far more on this subject than I do. Good luck, and apologies I couldn't be more useful. Cremastra talk 19:43, 2 May 2025 (UTC)
Ok, that makes much more sense. Thank you for your oversight. EEL1917 (talk) 20:16, 2 May 2025 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Oniscus asellus

The article Oniscus asellus you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Oniscus asellus for comments about the article, and Talk:Oniscus asellus/GA1 for the nomination. Well done! If the article is eligible to appear in the "Did you know" section of the Main Page, you can nominate it within the next seven days. Message delivered by ChristieBot, on behalf of Fritzmann2002 -- Fritzmann2002 (talk) 17:26, 6 May 2025 (UTC)

Yo, are you from the Winchester School Jebel Ali, cus i saw u editing that and its a very unknown school. 2001:8F8:132B:1539:533:2FF4:39E5:76C0 (talk) 18:08, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi. No, I'm not— the article showed up on a feed of articles with potential copyright violations. Cheers, Cremastra talk 19:30, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Userbox alignment

Hi Cremastra, this is not especially important, but the userbox on your user page User:Peristome/UserBox/GodMMAtheist does not play nice with being inside the {{flex columns}} template and extends its border to the right edge of the page, pushing everything else into the middle of your userpage. I don't think this is intentional, and I don't know why it behaves like this. Putting it outside the flex columns fixes this behavior but doesn't look at nice. Just thought I'd let you know -- Reconrabbit 15:59, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Yeah, I don't know why it does that with the border. The userboxes were pushed to the centre before I added that one, though, so I'm not really sure what's going on. Possibly it's because Peristome's userbox uses a div directly rather than calling {{userbox}}. I created an alternate version that seems to have fixed the border thing. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Cremastra talk 19:41, 8 May 2025 (UTC)
I think you've got it on the div elements - {{flex columns}} states Only contents which are in <div>...</div> tags will have extra whitespace distributed to them – except for those with class flex-columns-noflex (or otherwise override the flex: property). They're pushed to the center because flex columns by default take up 50% of the width of the page, and all the userboxes float left. You can push the userboxes further to the right if you set |flex1= to some arbitrary large number and |flex2= to 1, but they'll always be a minimum of 360px so you'll end up with some whitespace to the right regardless of what you do. -- Reconrabbit 20:02, 8 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from ShimogaS on User:ShimogaS (16:05, 13 May 2025)

How do I make my page live --ShimogaS (talk) 16:05, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

@ShimogaS I assume you want to make your userpage an article.
First, read WP:YFA and WP:BACKWARDS. The present draft is, I'll be blunt, totally unacceptable because it has no inline sources (where did the information come from?), is badly formatted (look at nearly any other article on this project. We don't sprinkle bold text all over the place.) and is extremely promotional in its tone.
Secondly, I will move the userpage to a correct location in "draft" space (where articles are worked on) and add a template that will allow you to submit it for review. Article-writing is the among the hardest things new editors can do, especially on topics like these. Make some small improvements to articles you're interested to get used to editing and learn the ropes.

To improve your article, read WP:YFA and WP:REFB and then read or skim some of our articles and look at their formatting. If you want to learn how to paint, it's best to look at some paintings before diving in. Same with article writing. Cremastra (uc) 22:27, 13 May 2025 (UTC)

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comment et où publier un article et une photo --Aukora (talk) 01:19, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Bonjour. Parce que vous êtes un francophone et votre article (j'assume que cette page est l'article que vous voulez publier) est en français, je vous suggère d'aller au Wikipédia Français. Cet siteweb (Wikipédia Anglais) contient seulement des articles en anglais, mais vous pourriez publier votre article sur le Wikipédia Français, si vous suivez leurs conseils et politiques. Je vous donne un conseil: les articles sont attendu d'être basés sur des sources – ou est-ce-que ces informations viennent de? En plus, c'est pas recommandé d'écrire une article de soi même. Pour plus d'information, je te suggère d'aller à fr:Wikipédia:Forum des nouveaux, ou vous pouvez demander des questions sur le Wikipédia français. Bonne chance, (et désolé pour mon français faible; c'est pas mon premier langue et j'oublie toujours quelles mots sont féminins et lesquelles sont masculins). Cremastra (uc) 02:41, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Question from 규걈 거무 on WeChat (16:33, 17 May 2025)

Kivabe nijer account kholbo --규걈 거무 (talk) 16:33, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Your username has Korean characters and you appear to be asking a question in Bengali. I'm afraid I can't help you, apart from advising you to check out bn: and ko:. Cremastra (uc) 16:36, 17 May 2025 (UTC)

Articles for Creation backlog drive

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Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 3200 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:25, 20 May 2025 (UTC)

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May thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in May. One of mine was Jadwiga Rappé. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:47, 24 May 2025 (UTC)

Congratulations, Cremastra! The list you nominated, List of longhorn beetle species recorded in Britain, has been promoted to featured status, recognizing it as one of the best lists on Wikipedia. The nomination discussion has been archived.
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Question from Mmahlemadonsela on Russian Empire (19:07, 31 May 2025)

Hi when did WWI end --Mmahlemadonsela (talk) 19:07, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

Mentors are for asking questions about Wikipedia editing. As you can see at World War One, it ended on 11 November, 1918. Cremastra (uc) 20:52, 31 May 2025 (UTC)

A message from Larsbg dk

Ok you win. Larsbg dk (talk) 21:18, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

WP:DNFTT. I will not engage with you further. If you are able to comment civilly, be my guest. Cremastra (Go Oilers!) 21:28, 8 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Banbanbongbong (07:08, 9 June 2025)

i want to write a Vietnamese version for this page:https://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koha please show me steps of how to do thank you --Banbanbongbong (talk) 07:08, 9 June 2025 (UTC)

@Banbanbongbong You'll want to go to The Vietnamese-language Wikipedia, and people can help you there. This website is only for English articles and has its own processes and policies. Cremastra (Go Oilers!) 02:33, 10 June 2025 (UTC)
User:CremastraTHANK YOU! Banbanbongbong (talk) 05:35, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

In the news

In case you didn't know: you're quoted in the subtitle of 404 Media's Wikipedia Pauses AI-Generated Summaries After Editor Backlash. jlwoodwa (talk) 02:18, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

I did indeed notice. I'll try not to let the fame go to my head. Cremastra (Go Oilers!) 12:32, 12 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Ibuildcostarica (14:46, 10 June 2025)

Hello Ezlev, Can I make edits and then, make myself a pesonal page for my business? --Ibuildcostarica (talk) 14:46, 10 June 2025 (UTC)

See WP:PROMO and WP:COI. Cremastra (Go Oilers!) 16:07, 15 June 2025 (UTC)
Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted
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Howard Milstein

Hi Cremastra, I work for Howard Milstein, the former chairman of the New York State Thruway Authority. A COI tag was added to the page a while ago, and the article has since been cleaned up significantly. I see that you're a member of WP:transport, so I hope you'll be willing to take a look at the page and consider removing the tag. You can see my edit request here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Howard_Milstein#Tag_removal. I appreciate your help, SmilingForest (talk) 11:31, 16 June 2025 (UTC)

Question from Qualifiedcontentcreator (11:30, 20 June 2025)

Hello, We want to create a wikipedia page for our company to provide the generic information about it. Please guide. Thank you. --Qualifiedcontentcreator (talk) 11:30, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

Please read WP:COI. Cremastra (talk) 12:02, 20 June 2025 (UTC)

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Information icon Hello, Cremastra. This is a bot-delivered message letting you know that Draft:Barnacles of New Zealand, a page you created, has not been edited in at least 5 months. Drafts that have not been edited for six months may be deleted, so if you wish to retain the page, please edit it again or request that it be moved to your userspace.

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Cremastra

@Cremastra Mate I know you're liberal but deliberately denying the federal name for something because someone you dont like named it. That is insanely biased and you should be disappointed in yourself because if it was there other way around you'd change it in a heartbeat. Hiding behind the curtain of "Wikipedia doesn't have to follow actual legal and federal names" is borderline laughable 2600:1014:B1AF:1491:4808:9038:8CDD:E5FA (talk) 06:48, 24 June 2025 (UTC)

I'm happy to discuss, but you'll have to tell me what specifically you're talking about. Cremastra (talk) 11:54, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
@Cremastra
Im talking about Mt. McKinley. I went through much of the tread of you deliberately ignoring the official and federal name because you dont like the man who named it. This is clearly shown by your profile and your views on DT and the current state of the US. 2600:1014:B1AF:1491:4808:9038:8CDD:E5FA (talk) 20:52, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
I guess you're talking about this discussion, but I still have no idea why a random IP who I've never interacted with is coming on my talk page, assuming bad faith, and accusing me of being biased based on a discussion I participated in nearly three months ago. As I said there, I opposed the move based on the usage evidence and per WP policy of WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME. I do not deny that I despise Trump, but I do not believe my bias has affected by judgement. I will not respond to you further as you are clearly commenting in bad faith to annoy me. Good day. Cremastra (talk) 21:31, 24 June 2025 (UTC)
@Cremastra
I pray my Lord and savior Jesus Christ softens your heart and opens your eyes to the truth. May our Heavenly Father bless you. 2600:1014:B1EA:C2FE:A867:F5CD:4F91:6304 (talk) 17:03, 26 June 2025 (UTC)

May 2025 NPP backlog drive – Points award

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to Cremastra for accumulating at least 10 points during the May 2025 NPP backlog drive. Your contributions played a part in the 17,000+ articles reviewed during the drive. Thank you so much for taking part and contributing to help reduce the backlog! Hey man im josh (talk) 19:45, 27 June 2025 (UTC)

June thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in June! - I heard this music, yesterday, - streamed a day before at a different location. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:47, 23 June 2025 (UTC)

While you are of course invited to check out my recommendations any day, today offers unusually a great writer of novels, music with light and a place with exquisite food. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2025 (UTC)

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The third round of the 2025 WikiCup ended on 28 June. This round was again competitive, with three contestants scoring more than 1,000 round points:

Everyone who competed in round 3 will advance to round 4 unless they have withdrawn. This table shows all competitors who have received tournament points so far, while the full scores for round 3 can be seen here. During this round, contestants have claimed 4 featured articles, 16 featured lists, 1 featured picture, 9 featured-topic articles, 149 good articles, 27 good-topic articles, and more than 90 Did You Know articles. In addition, competitors have worked on 18 In the News articles, and they have conducted more than 200 reviews.

Remember that any content promoted after 28 June but before the start of Round 4 can be claimed in Round 4. Invitations for collaborative writing efforts or any other discussion of potentially interesting work is always welcome on the WikiCup talk page. Remember, if two or more WikiCup competitors have done significant work on an article, all can claim points. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, feel free to review one of the nominations listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews Needed. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 14:49, 29 June 2025 (UTC)

July 4 at OTD

Hey, I see that you swapped hooks for July 4 at OTD, even though I already swapped them for 2025. Was there a reason why you didn't want to use that set? Z1720 (talk) 00:23, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Facepalm Facepalm Nope, it was just that my brain was apparently on holiday at the time. Thanks for catching that; I've reverted back to your version, although I'll add the Starmer hook to the notes. Cremastra (talk) 00:28, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Question from TARANATH PARAMHANS ( JOYGURU) on Wikipedia:Speedy deletion (20:43, 4 July 2025)

कृपया इसे न हटाएं। तारानाथ परमहंस एक महान काली उपासक और तंत्र विद्या के जीते जगते उदाहरण थे। --TARANATH PARAMHANS ( JOYGURU) (talk) 20:43, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

I was not responsible for requesting the deletion of your userpage. Also, this is the English encyclopedia. Please ONLY write in English on this website, so that we can actually talk to you. If you want to go to the Hindi Wikipedia, go to hi.wikipedia.org.
मैं आपके उपयोगकर्ता पृष्ठ को हटाने के अनुरोध के लिए जिम्मेदार नहीं था। साथ ही, यह अंग्रेजी विश्वकोश है। कृपया इस वेबसाइट पर केवल अंग्रेजी में लिखें, ताकि हम वास्तव में आपसे बात कर सकें। यदि आप हिंदी विकिपीडिया पर जाना चाहते हैं, तो hi.wikipedia.org पर जाएँ। Cremastra (talk) 21:04, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Courtesy ping: UrielAcosta, who correctly tagged your userpage for speedy deletion. Cremastra (talk) 21:06, 4 July 2025 (UTC)

Concern regarding Draft:Ctenodiscus crispatus

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Question from রিদায় on Free license (12:42, 7 July 2025)

হ্যালো --রিদায় (talk) 12:42, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Hello. For me to help you, you'll have to communicate in English, as this is the English Wikipedia. If you want to edit in Bengali, you can make your way to the Bengali Wikipedia. Thank you. Cremastra (talk) 14:12, 7 July 2025 (UTC)

Removing of comment on Mario Page (12:42, 8 July 2025)

Hello, I hope you are well. You removed my comment on the talk page of Mario under the requested moves section. I believe you had no right to do so, however in order to avoid making the talk page messy, I thought I would write here instead. After your removal I looked at the personal attack section in order to see if my comments fell under the category. I do not believe that it does. I will list all type of comments deemed unacceptable in accordance to the clear guidelines:

1. Abuse based on gender, sexuality, race etc - the comment clearly does not fall under this

2. speculation regarding real life affiliations - again no

3. Political views - clearly not

4. Linking to external sources - no

5. Comparing editors to terrorism, dictators, etc - no

6. Threats of legal action, violence etc - no

Whilst I understand that this list is not exhaustive, which it clearly states, my comment as follows was: "If you find that amusing maybe you should find something more productive to do with your time. I see you have over 150,000 edits. Perhaps you should focus less on the quantity and more on quality of your argument."

I agree telling someone to focus less on the quantity rather than quality of your arguments can definitely be seen as a petty on my part but to call it a personal attack seems rather ridiculous. If I wanted to do the same I could claim the same editor calling me "emotional" above my comment is deemed a personal attack. I would also like to point out that the same editor has commented over 25 times on the requested move which I don't think should be allowed - but that is a separate issue.

Lastly according to the section on removal of personal attacks it says only the most serious types of attacks including outing should be removed. I think we can both agree this is not one of those cases. Even if you disregard all of my previous points the guidelines seem relatively clear on this.

Due for the reasons above I have reinstated my edit. Jasp7676 (talk) 21:46, 8 July 2025 (UTC)

At least two other editors have interpreted it a personal attack. You chose to point out that the user has over 150K edits and then used that to suggest that the other editor is bad at forming an argument. ThomasO1989 (talk) 21:59, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
The personal attack but is picking out that they have 150,000 edits and making that the basis of your insult. I am following the spirit of the policy if not the precise wording. Please comment on content, not contributors; this was an ad hominem attack and should not have been restored. Cremastra (talk) 22:02, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
I'm sorry but that's an insufficient and unsatisfactory response to you removing my comments. Claiming to follow the "spirit of the policy" on the basis of the "ad hominem attack" is a weak argument. "On other talk pages, especially where such text is directed against you, removal should typically be limited to clear-cut cases where it is obvious the text is a true personal attack." In what sense is this possibly a clear cut case? Also the context as to why I used the 150,000 edits as an example is because the editor had made over 25+ edits on the page which is clearly excessive, an important point which no one else seems to have raised. WP:NOTCENSORED Jasp7676 (talk) 22:16, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
There is no rule that is objective and not open to interpretation on what constitutes a personal attack as opposed to constructive discussion, but some types of comments are never acceptable This is a clear cut case because you attacked another editor on the basis of a personal characteristic. WP:NOTCENSORED only applies to mainspace. I invite you to read WP:NOTFREESPEECH. Cremastra (talk) 22:44, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
You cannot be serious - a personal characteristic?! I would really like you to take the time to read the comment again.
The comment reads: "If you find that amusing maybe you should find something more productive to do with your time. I see you have over 150,000 edits. Perhaps you should focus less on the quantity and more on quality of your argument."
This is utterly ridiculous. Are you seriously trying to suggest that having 150,000 edits is a personal characteristic in the same way as race, sexism, or nationality. I am genuinely shocked at this level of discourse that a 3 sentence comment, in which none of it is an insult in the slightest, is removed by another editor on the grounds of being a personal attack. I considered not bothering to take any action but your responses have amazed me. This is completely unacceptable and as the user themself didn't bother to take down the comment within 4 days or message me asking to take it down, I have restored it. I have no interest in carrying out an edit war or commenting further on this topic so therefore I will not be taking any further action. I really hope you respect my decision, genuinely think about whether this is really a personal attack, and leave it in place. Many thanks, Jasp7676 (talk) 21:12, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
At least three editors have interpreted it as a personal attack. It certainly does not advance any argument that you made regarding the move itself. You are being disruptive. Drop the stick now. --ThomasO1989 (talk) 23:17, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Why are you so intent on having this comment restored? This is a relatively mild ad hominem attack compared to an attack on race, sexuality, or nationality, but it is still a personal attack and most certainly an insult. I am pleased you will not be edit warring about this. I thought genuinely as to whether this was a PA when I chose to redact it, and again when you asked about it on my talk page. Cremastra (talk) 23:58, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
Hello, I am one of the editors that interpreted the comment as a personal attack. I'd like to say that this comment is most likely an attempt to game the system, specifically by playing policies against each other. (Wikipedia is not censored vs. No personal attacks.) 1isall (talk/contribs) 13:11, 9 July 2025 (UTC)
I don't think the comment in question was any worse than Joy's comment that provoked it: Perhaps it's better that we don't approach this with such emotional language. Srnec (talk) 01:47, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

Requesting advanced uncontroversial page move

Hi, Cremastra. Just wanna ask: you have page mover rights, right?

I just want to request an uncontroversial page move: can you move Talk:ENA: Dream BBQ/Archive 2 to Talk:ENA: Dream BBQ/Archive N, then move it back to the former without leaving a redirect? Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:44, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

I can do it, yes. If you want Archive N deleted, though, it's probably more straightforward (and orthodox) to tag it with G6 or G7. Cremastra (talk) 14:50, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
I guess I could tag it with both. If speedy deletion is rejected, we'll just do the move. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:55, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
I just tagged the redirect with both speedy deletion criteria. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 14:59, 10 July 2025 (UTC)
Archive N just got deleted, an advanced page move is now unnecessary. Thanks, 1isall (talk/contribs) 22:14, 10 July 2025 (UTC)

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Still a few more days to get your nomination in there... :) Thebiguglyalien (talk) 🛸 15:22, 11 July 2025 (UTC)
A nomination of myself? I appreciate the encouragemnt, but this discussion has shut the door on that for now. Cremastra (talk) 16:21, 11 July 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Pranjal02gautam (18:07, 16 July 2025)

hi bro i recently faced issue due to references, any idea how to handle it? --Pranjal02gautam (talk) 18:07, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

Please don't call me "bro".
I assume you're referring to your draft, Draft:Shyam Kishor Awasthi, which you requested to be deleted. I can't see things that are deleted so can't tell what the specific problem was, but I'd advise you to follow the advice given on your talk page: please cite reliable sources and make sure all content is supported be references, even if you know it's true. It's very important that readers are able to know where the information is coming from. Wikipedia has a pretty steep learning curve, and I suggest you either make some small fixes to articles you come across and learn the ropes or settle down for some reading. WP:YFA and WP:BACKWARDS are helpful. You don't have to read the whole page (I myself never read the manual before starting), but at least give them a skim. If you have further questions, feel free to ask here. Cremastra (talk) 23:26, 16 July 2025 (UTC)

I believe that this close was a WP:BADNAC. The rationale for closure states that "Thus, opposing comments which apparently misunderstood the intent of the move and objected to Mangione being the primary topic were given considerably less weight, as they are not pertinent to this RM." First of all, the move was based on Luigi Mangione being a potential primary topic, something that was noted as incorrect by people in the discussion. However, multiple oppose !votes mentioned Mangione to refute the initial nominator but also added that the discussion was not in fact about Mangione but the name in general. It is not clear whether these were also ignored. The closing rationale also refers to the argument of User:Joy that this is not the best-known Luigi, but all of the presented articles, such as Luigi Pirandello, run afoul of WP:PTM. Overall, I believe this is a "no consensus" closure, as there is no agreement either way. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 07:41, 2 July 2025 (UTC)

Nope, that does not run afoul of WP:PTM. We've had this discussion probably dozens of times already, and repeating this claim that readers don't look for people under their own names is still contradicted by many known examples (like the recent Tito, Charlotte, Orlando).
Also, I've explicitly said that the character is possibly the best-known individual Luigi (but that it doesn't matter as much as one might assume), so the above seems to be a basic misreading of my argument.
The matter of Mangione ostensibly muddies the water, but any closer needs to be able to discern that in the discussion, the original proposer clarified their mention of Mangione within the first few days, and they were not subsequently contradicted by further arguments, beyond a few assertions and opinions.
The idea that the WP:CLOSE process was not observed appropriately here would be much easier to ponder if this complaint didn't make this many claims that should be discarded per WP:CLOSE.
On related note, a possible procedural issue that I looked at here is that Cremastra did not address Thomasfan1000's idea to move the general disambiguation page to Luigi. This was an idea brought up late, in response to a comment by Zxcvbnm, and didn't get explicit traction. It might have been another compromise worth exploring, maybe by making a note about it and extending the discussion period a bit longer. Nevertheless, as there was no traction after that comment on June 21, and two other supports came in on 22 and 26, it was still within the conventional parameters of RM closer behavior to disregard it, as an idea that never went anywhere.
AFAICT Cremastra applied WP:RMNAC well here. After the change at Luigi, we'll be able to better measure to what extent readers engage with these articles in this particular case, and have a new RM in a few months time based on hopefully better data. WP:Consensus is a process of compromise that depends on the quality of arguments, and having more measurements will hopefully help that quality.
So overall this kind of a closure is a positive development that we should encourage. We should not dissuade it by arguing with closers who did nothing wrong. --Joy (talk) 09:17, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
I don't think anyone was seriously suggesting that Luigi Mangione was the primary topic for "Luigi", because, as you point out, that's a PTM. Mangione was used as an example of Luigi (given name) being the primary topic here. Some !voters didn't understand that, despite the nom's clarification. Cremastra (talk) 15:30, 2 July 2025 (UTC)
I still don't understand it. If Mangione and all the other Luigis are only partial title matches, how do they add up to primacy for their given name? What's the logic here? Mangione was used as an example of Luigi (given name) being the primary topic here. That makes no sense. A single person named Luigi is not an example of any such thing. And note that Joy does not agree with you about PTMs. Srnec (talk) 22:55, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
Talk:Luigi (character) § Requested move 13 June 2025
@Srnec: Because as various voters put it, the first name is very common in real life; it's frankly laughable that this very common name would be supplanted by a video game character. Very definitely not the primary topic by long-term significance Mangione is mentioned as an example of why the real life given name should be given precedence over the video game character. I do not mean to suggest (nor, I think, does anyone) that Luigi Mangione is actually the primary topic for "Luigi"; his popularity is merely evidence that the widely used and common given name is the primary topic here and has more long-term significance than the video game character. Joy does not have to agree with me on PTMs because we are not part of "pro" and "anti" blocs here. I see where the confusion is coming from, though. The base point here is in my closing statement: Supporters presented the argument that Luigi is a common first name and has more long-time significance, while the character is not the primary topic, given the evidence of pageviews and the reader navigation chart at wikinav.
This is like if there was a moderately well-known fictional character known simply as "Andrew". It is still clear that Andrew is the primary topic because of the countless people named David Andrew, who add up to give the name more long-term significance and make it the primary topic. Cremastra (talk) 23:07, 4 July 2025 (UTC)
You didnt mention the longterm significance criterion here, but your explanation is essentially overruling the character's pageview primacy by invoking the name Luigi's longterm significance. I think this would actually make sense and be fully correct if Luigi was a complete article in the same style as Spencer (surname). The problem is that its current state as a disambiguation page masquerading as a set-index list was ignored to make this decision, and there is the assumption that the article is inherently notable. In reality, it was split from the DAB page with no discussion as far as I'm aware. This split has caused a great deal of debate and confusion.
Tl;dr, your decision would be correct if the Luigi name article should reasonably exist; but I don't think it should. I think an AfD of the article should clear up whether it should even be there. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:17, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
That's fair. WP:NAMEPAGE informs us we can have both articles about the name itself and index articles listing people with the name. Cremastra (talk) 21:21, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
I have created another move discussion at Talk:Luigi as I have changed my mind about the deletion after doing some further research, and believe a move would be a better option, which may render this whole thing moot. You are welcome to state your opinion there as to whether it should be moved to List of people with the given name Luigi instead. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 21:35, 8 July 2025 (UTC)
This section will be automatically archived soon, although this comment should bump that. Have concerns been resolved? Cremastra (talk) 05:04, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Question from HotSaucerls (06:03, 17 July 2025)

Hello how do I create an article --HotSaucerls (talk) 06:03, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

Creating articles is a big task and I don't recommend it for newcomers. However, if you still want to do it, you should use the Articles for Creation process. You write the article in draftspace or your sandbox, then submit it for review. Then if the article is suitable, an experienced editor will move it to article space. For advice about what to do when writing an article, check out WP:Your first article. Best regards, QwertyForest (talk) 07:43, 17 July 2025 (UTC)

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Question from Clarity.Revisions (09:53, 24 July 2025)

Clarity.Revisions's mentor Ixtal is away.

Can I create a new page for a brand that does not exist as long as it's neutral and factually correct? --Clarity.Revisions (talk) 09:53, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Uh, no, 'cause if the brand is nonexistent that's called a "hoax" and can't be factually correct. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 16:30, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

July thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in July! - Three Ukrainian topics were on the main page today, at least at the beginning, RD and DYK, - see my talk. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:11, 20 July 2025 (UTC)

On Bach's day of death, I decorated my user pages in memory, with his music, and my story ends on "peace". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:02, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

I confess I've never loved Bach's music, even if he is one of the greatest composers. Holst, on the other hand, is consistently brilliant. Have you ever heard his short Japanese Suite, which he wrote with Michio Itō (Itō gave him many of the themes, which are Japanese folk tunes)? Cremastra (talk · contribs) 13:10, 28 July 2025 (UTC)

AElect

Hello, just a heads up to let you know I've answered the questions you posed me over at AELECT - hopefully my answers cover what you were expecting to see but just let me know if you need me to expand on them! Thanks for taking the time to ask them! CoconutOctopus talk 10:06, 18 July 2025 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Cheers, Cremastra (talk) 17:37, 18 July 2025 (UTC)
Hope this doesn't sound silly but sincere thank you for being the only oppose voter for me to actually tell me why you voted such (and even publically state that you did!). It's absolutely appreciated. CoconutOctopus talk 11:35, 2 August 2025 (UTC)
Haha! Thanks. Good luck with your years of mop-holding. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 14:44, 2 August 2025 (UTC)

A message from Sharakarasic

Would this be an appropriate citation for Holly Morris' current role as Executive Director for Tomorrow's Women? https://www.tomorrowswomen.org/holly-morris

Thanks! Shara

Sharakarasic (talk) 01:26, 5 August 2025 (UTC) Sharakarasic

Should be. It's not independent, but since notability isn't in question that isn't a concern. For more information, see WP:RS and WP:BLPRS specifically. Cheers, Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:30, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

African Moth Taxonomy

Hey! I saw your comment about the genus Stenopis needing to be synonymized with Ophiusa on iNaturalist. Can you send me a source for that so I can take care of the iNat updates? Smithsqrd (talk) 16:02, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

Smithsqrd Sure, thanks! LepIndex and GBIF (look at the synonyms list) and the Australian Faunal Directory agree; also see p. 40 of A synonymous and distributional list of the species of the Lepidoptera of Turkey and p 79 here. Cheers, Cremastra (talk · contribs) 16:29, 5 August 2025 (UTC)

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Hey you! I've seen some of your edits (along with by someone who has an IP address that I can't spell) on the page for My Magic Pet Morphle, and you seem to nail it with these improvisations... Anyways. This is good and all.

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(nom, nom) Thanks. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 03:12, 6 August 2025 (UTC)

Do you want your crossword published?

I stumbled across User:Cremastra/Crossword. Do you want me to move it back to the namespace for Signpost drafts to move it through the publication process? ☆ Bri (talk) 01:00, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

@Bri Sure, cheers. I honestly can't remember ever making that one, and don't have the answers written down anywhere. If you want to publish it, go ahead. I have no idea what Oedipus Rex, Disco, the Cinema of France, and Donald Duck have in common. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 02:12, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
I think the clue might be near the top of the talkpage of each? ☆ Bri (talk) 03:30, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
It's published! Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost/2025-08-09/Crossword. Thanks for your contribution! ☆ Bri (talk) 05:01, 9 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 14:37, 9 August 2025 (UTC)

Review of my work with comment: "here we go, this is what I meant to revert to. Cripes"

Hi there @Cremastra - I am new to Wikipedia (worked on over 100 edits now over 2 weeks and see that you have reviewed my work with the following comments: "here we go, this is what I meant to revert to. Cripes"

Can you explain to me why you choose to make these comments and how you feel this supportive towards someone who is new to the community?

Here to learn!

Many thanks! Littleclown27 (talk) 15:33, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

That wasn't directed to you. It was directed to myself, who had reverted the wrong thing. The edit summary was where I corrected my own mistake. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 15:57, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
@Cremastra - apologies - I thought you were referring to what I had done. Sorry - I misunderstood. Littleclown27 (talk) 15:58, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
No worries. However, please don't use AI to discuss with other editors, as I suspect you did in your message above. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 16:10, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
No AI was used in any of these messages. I think this is also my point, it is used as something wrong and accusatory while it doesn’t have to be. Again apologies and I promise I will become a lot more strict in using ChatGPT. Littleclown27 (talk) 16:14, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

A message from Abdullah2480

Abdullah2480 (talk) 16:40, 8 August 2025 (UTC) If criticism is allowed promotions also needs to be allowed. You are not showing your neutral point of view.

You are removing the criticism section and replacing it with a list of minor awards. See WP:UNDUE and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. This isn't a place to list every minor award an unreliable newspaper has won. Take it to WP:NPOVN if you really want. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 16:48, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Please add criticism for others as well till 2025 (as they provide 6 months report every year). Please also let me know what makes you to hold that report only for the referenced site? Abdullah2480 (talk) 16:51, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
Hope to get a response with the updated links for those who are not getting criticised (listed top then the reference site).
Let me know aren't they unreliable? You are promoting others by letting them reliable though they are on the list & making a specific site as unreliable which consideres your biasness. Abdullah2480 (talk) 16:59, 8 August 2025 (UTC)
I'm sorry, I don't understand what you mean. I encourage you to take the issue to the NPOV noticeboard, where you can get feeback from a greater variety of editors. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 17:00, 8 August 2025 (UTC)

The Signpost: 9 August 2025

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A review of June, July and August.
Who is this guy?
Threads since June.
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Everybody's Somebody's Fool.

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August thanks

story · music · places

Thank you for improving article quality in August, with a story about a children's writer - check out the video of book introduction ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:37, 20 August 2025 (UTC)

Check out my talk for an Independence day, or: the pic of Oksana Lyniv was taken on 24 August. There's listening and reading in today's story, and I like both. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:35, 24 August 2025 (UTC)

VP

Hi, just wanted to know if I have your permission to remove your comment pointing me to the correct section of the icons discussions. FaviFake (talk) 15:24, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

Oh, yeah, go ahead. Cremastra (talk · contribs) 16:32, 21 August 2025 (UTC)
Thanks! FaviFake (talk) 16:36, 21 August 2025 (UTC)

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