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I did not mean to write a hoax as the GRO is completely real. But maybe just not suitable enough for wiki. It is no hoax but simply just a lesser known corp, do you accept this query? I will not write any bad articles again. Tooting! carrot 123dicey (talk) 01:42, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
@Tooting! carrot 123dicey: I can't find any evidence that this organization is real and the sources in the deleted article also didn't have anything. A real government organization should at least have an easy-to-find .gov site, which doesn't appear to be the case for this organization. If the GRO actually does exist, any potential article would need to have citations to reliable sources not affiliated with the organization. This forms part of the general notability guideline for any topic to be included on Wikipedia, so I should also note that many lesser-known organizations do not, and should not, have Wikipedia articles. Complex/Rational02:04, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
No need to delete
Please do not delete the unused data like this, unless it is disruptive. Being able to take a second look is part of the process. -DePiep (talk) 16:43, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
@DePiep: I had already checked and updated the data in the isoboxes. In some cases, when references were involved, keeping both datasets led to cite errors; I removed the old (deprecated) data to ensure such errors would not propagate to article space. Nevertheless, if you believe this is unnecessary (I'm guessing you mean take a a second look after all the data is updated?) and there are no error messages, I will stop doing it. Complex/Rational16:47, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
Yes the red reference errors are a good reason to simply remove them. But regular data can stay, no harm. Cleanup afterwards needed anyway. Also gives me a tech finger on the pulse (unexpectad situations to learn from). Thanx. DePiep (talk) 16:54, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
And on second thought: it is even preferable to delete the old refs right after the checking, because they should not break future correct edits to any article references. ;-) DePiep (talk) 12:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
@Hansmuller: It's not flagged here on en.wp (and never was), but [1] indicates a possible copyvio, and the source material is labeled as "Copyright. All rights reserved." Unless I misunderstood this, restoring the deleted section would be inappropriate, but feel free to add a paraphrased translation of your own. Complex/Rational14:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
Just wanted to throw a thank you for approving this article and deleting the redirect the other day, but also to let you know that you forgot to move the article to mainspace. Don't worry, I've already done it myself, just figured you oughtta know. This, of course, is assuming that you were the one who approved it and not just who answered a CSD request on the redirect, and that it was someone else who didn't follow through, in which case just ignore this part! QuietHere (talk) 01:11, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
@QuietHere: Thanks for the message. I was actually just responding to the CSD request, as I believe the person approving the article at AfC should be the one moving it to mainspace. But it would probably be a good habit to ping the reviewer in the deletion summary. Cheers, Complex/Rational03:41, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
A 2022 review, including prospects for future transactinides
Not sure if I've previously sent you this. It refers to this 2016 conference paper that concludes These calculated results and considerations suggest that it is unlikely that elements much above Z = 120 or isotopes much beyond N = 184 will be observed. Seems like the general attitude has changed from "119 and 120 are coming" (Zagrebaev 2013) to something more like (if I may paraphrase): "119 and 120 will need a paradigm shift from what has come before, will be hard to characterise, and even once that's done, 121++ will still be really hard". Double sharp (talk) 19:58, 21 January 2023 (UTC)
Double sharp I don't think I've seen this one before. Looks like a pretty comprehensive review, but there are oh so many questions... For one, I wonder where the "fission drip line" might lie among SHEs or in the path of r-process nucleosynthesis. Complex/Rational01:42, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
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@Nikita sh12: The page read as a detailed product description of CloudPanel, which is the kind of content suggesting that a user should install and use the product. Wikipedia is not an advertising service or how-to guide; a Wikipedia article (or draft thereof) should describe its subject in a neutral tone, with the sole purpose of informing the reader. As such, a new draft would need to be fundamentally rewritten to address these concerns. Complex/Rational16:21, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
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[2] I was aware such a redirect would be potentially problematic, but I didn't know it would be vandalized SO soon. Had I known about it in advance I wouldn't have created it in the first place. Sorry! Dsuke1998AEOS (talk) 23:01, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
@Dsuke1998AEOS: No need to apologize. Conversely, I apologize if you took offense from my protection summary – your creation was absolutely not in bad faith, but rather the influx of successive IP edits were.
Unfortunately, certain pages/titles tend to be vandal-magnets, especially since the only barrier here was needing autoconfirmed permission to create the page. See also the logs for Materialscientist and Widr (again, the page titles in mainspace, not the users) for similar happenings.
Regarding the intended function of this redirect, I think BBB 23 does a better job because it matches the target's case and spacing; we don't default to creating redirects for all variants on capitalization and spacing, and given the bad faith edits in this case, in my opinion the lowercase title has the potential to do more harm than good – at least, until someone/something else widely known exactly as "bbb23" comes into existence. I have no prejudice if another admin approves the creation of a redirect, though in that case, I would strongly recommend at least extended-confirmed protection. Complex/Rational03:32, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
It seems vaguely plausible to me for someone typing quickly, especially on a phone keyboard. But ECP feels a bit too much like an invitation to create sleeper socks. Hopefully full protection removes the temptation. HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?11:30, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
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Hello ComplexRational, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I declined the speedy deletion of Unoctoctium, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: G4: A 4-year-old mass RFD with a weak delete result, with several of the nominated redirects having been recreated in the years since, doesn't seem to impose a long-standing consensus against future creation. These should be discussed again. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 12:45, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
The criterion was technically applicable, but I understand why it was declined and was on the fence myself (which is why I didn't flat-out delete). It's definitely worth another discussion. Complex/Rational16:41, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
Yep, I just saw. I've been offline most of today, but was ready to take action myself. Thanks again for your diligence. Complex/Rational21:56, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
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@Dinoz1: Yep, what LilianaUwU said. Now that the IP has been blocked, the account would out itself as a WP:DUCK if it disruptively edits the same page in the same manner (provided they haven't already been autoblocked). I also would say it's not worth going through the motions of SPI unless there's good reason to suspect sleepers or long-term abuse – which, in this case, I don't see at first glance. Complex/Rational14:47, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
Thank you, Complex Rational! I ended up reporting them to AIV, which may explain the block. Hopefully after 31 hours, they don't get back up to the same mischief. Dinoz1(chat?)14:48, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
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Hey! I saw you declined my G6. I saw that it was from 16 years ago and didn't really see any new sources indicating notability. But I understand the decline and now realize that I confused it with G4. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#654515:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
@Blaze Wolf: I had a feeling that was the case; no worries. My main reason for not simply invoking G4 is that some post-2007 claims are present in the article, and I haven't looked for any foreign-language sources that might illustrate notability, so I believe this is best addressed via a new AfD. Complex/Rational15:39, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
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@WikiVirusC: The criterion does not explicitly say one way or the other. My understanding is that since the decision to draftify was the result of the deletion discussion, G4 would indeed be applicable to the identical page recreated in article space (as it could be seen as trying to circumvent the deletion policy) but not to the draft itself (where the goal is incubation). Thanks for bringing this AfD to my attention; I have deleted the page. Complex/Rational01:08, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
@Spiderone: It's essentially identical to the deleted version. I endorse the G4 tagging, but it would look less biased if another admin follows through and deletes it. Complex/Rational13:23, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
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Hello it seems need account and i don't have it can you do it ?
You can see this article don't have any english related source they created as english version of its persian ( original ) one . This article created 2 april 2023 and the last delete of persian ones 24 april 2023 .
The original article deleted 7 times because this person is not notable in persian ( original community of this article ) . It doesn't make sense ? 141.11.249.38 (talk) 13:56, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
it doesn't matter for them if this article delete in few months after they get bluebadge as celebrity by put google knowledge panel link ( which created because of their wikipedia ) in bio of their instagram page . You can see this person did it .
Once again, deletions on the Persian Wikipedia are basically irrelevant here, because policies and guidelines are not necessarily the same across different wikis. On the note of policy, there is nothing expressly forbidding the use of foreign-language sources, though English-language sources are preferred whenever they are available.
If you believe there is a more sophisticated issue here involving user conduct, please first attempt to discuss it with the user. I also don't clearly see the evidence behind your claims – if there is, it's certainly not obvious enough to justify any immediate action. And moreover, I have no subject-matter knowledge and have no recollection of related interactions within this area (or indeed with you specifically), so I urge you to instead raise this matter at this user's talk page or at a noticeboard/deletion discussion. Complex/Rational14:26, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
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