User talk:Codename AD/Archive 1

Hello! Welcome to the Talk page. It has nothing ATM, but later, it will have something at least. Adding some extra stuff. I don't edit very often.^{[citation needed]}

Hi, my source for edits I did on Darwin Blanch profile is his ATP profile page. Please restore my edit, thanks 45.183.132.243 (talk) 15:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Right here - Blanch profile. ATP is the MAIN SOURCE FOR EVERY MALE TENNIS PLAYER. Please [1] restore my edition, I did nothing wrong or unsourced 45.183.132.243 (talk) 15:58, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Darwin Blanch source where I got my info -> https://www.atptour.com/en/players/darwin-blanch/b0no/overview

PLEASE RESTORE MY EDITS 45.183.132.243 (talk) 16:00, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You did not reference a source, so... Now that you found one, you can put that back in. Codename AD ^talk 16:06, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I thought It was quite obvious that EVERY new ranking we use here for male/female tennis players come from ATP/WTA official websites, so It's pretty exhausting to reference every time for each player. You can see ATP/WTA sources on tennis players profiles' 'External Links' section 45.183.132.243 (talk) 16:24, 25 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

See WP:DENY. By reverting their comments and removing what you percieve as personal attacks, you're just feeding into what they want. Just ingore them and they will likely go away. If not, then we can remove their talk page access. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Got it. Thank you. Codename AD ^talk 13:51, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I am not a professional or regular editor of wikipedia, but hoped that you would accept a reference to another wikipedia page, and, on seeing that it is basically and fundamentally correct, might make the appropriate changes to my edit. The more accurate (and contradictory to the former) information is contained in the Starter (engine) wikipedia page and copied into the General Motors page, and the source quoted, the Starter (engine) wikipedia page, contains its' own references.

I cannot understand why you think a wikipedia page containing better information, with its' own sources and references, cannot be used to rectify errors in another wikipedia page.

My edited chunk was thus:

Durant, with the board's approval, also tried acquiring Ford Motor Company, but needed an additional $2 million.[19] Durant over-leveraged GM in making acquisitions, and was removed by the board of directors in 1910 at the order of the bankers who backed the loans to keep GM in business.[16] The action of the bankers was partially influenced by the Panic of 1910–1911 that followed the earlier enforcement of the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890. In 1911, Charles F. Kettering of Dayton Engineering Laboratories Company (DELCO) and Henry M. Leland invented and patented the first electric starter in America.[20] (((Except that en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starter_(engine) states that "The first electric starter was installed on an Arnold, an adaptation of the Benz Velo, built in 1896 in East Peckham, England, by electrical engineer H. J. Dowsing.[2]In 1903, Clyde J. Coleman invented and patented the first electric starter in America U.S. patent 0,745,157.[3]"))). In November 1911, Durant co-founded Chevrolet with race car driver Louis Chevrolet, who left the company in 1915 after a disagreement with Durant.[21]

Does it not make sense to adopt the better information into the General motors page? If not, why not, is there something wrong with the references in the Starter_(engine) page?

Glad that we could have this discussion, my only previous edit, many years ago, was simply deleted without such interaction, or even a message.

The button below "Publish changes", to submit text to our chat, seems wrong. I've no wish to "Publish", and these are not "changes", as a "chat" is a matter between two, or a few, persons, not public, and this text did not formerly exist. I don't mind it being publicly viewable, but one of these words is wrong. Either it's a chat, or it is published.

--jez  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Semifraudulent (talk • contribs) 10:33, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply] 

The thing is, you shouldn't cite another Wikipedia page. See WP:RS more details of reliable sources. I hope this helped you on why Wikipedia should not be cited. WP:Verifiability is an important policy to read up on. Same with WP:Notability. I know that you were editing in good faith, just remember that for big changes, cite a source. Codename AD ^talk 10:40, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bro, why did you delete my edit of the legacy of aurelian? I spent a bit of time on that you know Mightyfootttt (talk) 05:41, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NPOV Is a core policy of Wikipedia. And judging by your edit, I considered it to less than neutral. Codename AD ^talk 05:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I literally just signed in to Wikipedia. I'm not gonna know what this stuff is. Mightyfootttt (talk) 05:58, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (October 2024).

Administrator changes

• Crisco 1492

• Babajobu
• Daniel
• Elf
• Jayron32
• Thue
• Wugapodes

CheckUser changes

Maxim

Oversighter changes

Maxim

Guideline and policy news

• Following a discussion, the discussion-only period proposal that went for a trial to refine the requests for adminship (RfA) process has been discontinued.
• Following a request for comment, Administrator recall is adopted as a policy.

Technical news

• Mass deletions done with the Nuke tool now have the 'Nuke' tag. This change will make reviewing and analyzing deletions performed with the tool easier. T366068

Arbitration

• RoySmith, Barkeep49 and Cyberpower678 have been appointed to the Electoral Commission for the 2024 Arbitration Committee Elections. ThadeusOfNazereth and Dr vulpes are reserve commissioners.
• Eligible editors are invited to self-nominate from 3 November 2024 until 12 November 2024 to stand in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections.
• The Arbitration Committee is seeking volunteers for roles such as clerks, access to the COI queue, checkuser, and oversight.

Miscellaneous

• An unreferenced articles backlog drive is happening in November 2024 to reduce the backlog of articles tagged with {{Unreferenced}}. You can help reduce the backlog by adding citations to these articles. Sign up to participate!

Hello! Voting in the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 2 December 2024. All eligible users are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Wikipedia arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2024 election, please review the candidates and submit your choices on the voting page. If you no longer wish to receive these messages, you may add {{NoACEMM}} to your user talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:55, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (November 2024).

Administrator changes

• Ahecht
• DoubleGrazing
• Dr vulpes
• FOARP
• Peaceray
• Queen of Hearts
• Rsjaffe
• SD0001
• SilverLocust
• Sohom Datta
• ThadeusOfNazereth
• Voorts

• Ajpolino
• Fathoms Below
• Pppery
• Tamzin
• Worm That Turned

• Aervanath
• Christopher Sundita
• Dank
• Dennis Brown
• Dragons flight
• Fastily
• Graham87
• JaGa
• Kbh3rd
• Marine 69-71
• Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington
• Yamamoto Ichiro

Interface administrator changes

• SD0001
• Sohom Datta

Pppery

CheckUser changes

• Spicy
• TheresNoTime

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, the policy on restoration of adminship has been updated. All former administrators may now only regain the tools following a request at the Wikipedia:Bureaucrats' noticeboard within 5 years of their most recent admin action. Previously this applied only to administrators deysopped for inactivity.
• Following a request for comment, a new speedy deletion criterion, T5, has been enacted. This applies to template subpages that are no longer used.

Technical news

• Technical volunteers can now register for the 2025 Wikimedia Hackathon, which will take place in Istanbul, Turkey. Application for travel and accommodation scholarships is open from November 12 to December 10, 2024.

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Yasuke (formerly titled Backlash to diversity and inclusion) has been closed.
• An arbitration case titled Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case will close on 14 December.

Hi Codename AD, can you please explain why you gave this new user a final warning just for triggering an edit filter? Thanks. Counterfeit Purses (talk) 23:29, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Because they triggered the same filter 4 times. They were trying to add emails, of which they were disallowed, and attempted to add emails again, 3 times, of which, they were disallowed. Hope that made you understand. Oh and by the way... Codename AD ^talk 00:36, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your reply. What I am wondering about is why you didn't just explain to them that they could not add emails, instead of giving them a "final" warning? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 18:34, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

They wouldn't have understood our policies on WP:EF, and WP:NOTWEBHOST, as they appeared to be a newcomer. Which I could have explained that a bit better... Sorry. Codename AD ^talk 23:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think it would be better if you tried to explain to them why their edits aren't working instead of threatening them with blocks, but why are you warning people about triggering edit filters at all? That one user was only editing their own sandbox. Or, rather, they were trying to edit their own sandbox. Who was that hurting? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 00:10, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I striked the final warning per this. So this is moot now. Codename AD ^talk 11:33, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, but I don;t think it is moot. I started this discussion to find out why you are leaving these kinds of warnings. You haven't answered my questions so I still don't know how you think this is helpful. I have another question for you today - why did you warn one person who was edit-warring but not the other? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 20:32, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

You archived our discussion saying "this discussion will never be resolved" but it doesn't feel like you were trying to resolve anything. Codename AD, I'm not trying to harass you but you keep dodging my questions. Let me make it as simple as I can -what is the benefit to Wikipedia of warning IPs and new users for triggering edit filters? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 23:57, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The answer for my (inappropriate) final warning was that I should've issued a level one notice, and for 3RR I had forgotten to issue it to the other user, and the benefit of warning IPs and users, are to tell them why their edit was disallowed, and in case of a good faith edit triggering an edit filter that disallows it, it tells them where to file a report of the false positive. Codename AD ^talk 14:13, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

When someone triggers an edit filter they are shown a warning which tells them what happened and provides them with a link to report a false positive, so if that's why you're doing it, you can stop now. If you want to be helpful, why not try helping people instead of warning them? Counterfeit Purses (talk) 16:30, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (December 2024).

Administrator changes

Sennecaster

• Daniel
• Hog Farm

• BozMo
• Ferret
• John M Wolfson
• MaxSem
• Panyd
• Tide rolls
• Titoxd

CheckUser changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Ferret

Oversight changes

• Daniel
• Elli
• Liz
• ScottishFinnishRadish
• Theleekycauldron

Worm That Turned

Guideline and policy news

• Following an RFC, Wikipedia:Notability (species) was adopted as a subject-specific notability guideline.
• A request for comment is open to discuss whether admins should be advised to warn users rather than issue no-warning blocks to those who have posted promotional content outside of article space.

Technical news

• The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions.

Arbitration

• Following the 2024 Arbitration Committee elections, the following editors have been elected to the Arbitration Committee: CaptainEek, Daniel, Elli, KrakatoaKatie, Liz, Primefac, ScottishFinnishRadish, Theleekycauldron, Worm That Turned.

Miscellaneous

• A New Pages Patrol backlog drive is happening in January 2025 to reduce the number of unreviewed articles and redirects in the new pages feed. Sign up here to participate!

News and updates for administrators from the past month (January 2025).

Administrator changes

• Arcticocean
• Wugapodes

Euryalus

CheckUser changes

• Firefly
• L235

Oversighter changes

• Firefly
• Guerillero
• L235
• Moneytrees

Technical news

• Administrators can now nuke pages created by a user or IP address from the last 90 days, up from the initial 30 days. T380846
• A 'Recreated' tag will now be added to pages that were created with the same title as a page which was previously deleted and it can be used as a filter in Special:RecentChanges and Special:NewPages. T56145

Arbitration

• The arbitration case Palestine-Israel articles 5 has been closed.

Hi there, and thank you for your contributions to Wikipedia! I wanted to let you know I have declined your speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Анна Андреева-Карташева because articles, especially those in draftspace, are not speedy deleted merely for being in a different language. The only caveat is if the article exists on another Wikipedia, which doesn't appear to be the case here (see WP:A2). If submitted for review through AFC, the article will be declined for not being written in English. If it is moved to the mainspace, it will be marked as needing translation. I hope this makes sense! Let me know if you have any further questions. Take care, Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 03:38, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (February 2025).

Administrator changes

• Jarry1250
• Lethe

CheckUser changes

• AmandaNP
• Drmies

Oversighter changes

AmandaNP

Guideline and policy news

• A request for comment is open to discuss whether AI-generated images (meaning those wholly created by generative AI, not human-created images modified with AI tools) should be banned from use in articles.
• A series of 22 mini-RFCs that double-checked consensus on some aspects and improved certain parts of the administrator elections process has been closed (see the summary of the changes).
• A request for comment is open to gain consensus on whether future administrator elections should be held.

Technical news

• A new filter has been added to the Special:Nuke tool, which allows administrators to filter for pages in a range of page sizes (in bytes). This allows, for example, deleting pages only of a certain size or below. T378488
• Non-administrators can now check which pages are able to be deleted using the Special:Nuke tool. T376378

Miscellaneous

• The 2025 appointees for the Ombuds commission are だ＊ぜ, Arcticocean, Ameisenigel, Emufarmers, Faendalimas, Galahad, Nehaoua, Renvoy, Revi C., RoySmith, Teles and Zafer as members, with Vermont serving as steward-observer.
• Following the 2025 Steward Elections, the following editors have been appointed as stewards: 1234qwer1234qwer4, AramilFeraxa, Daniuu, KonstantinaG07, MdsShakil and XXBlackburnXx.

Hello Codename AD,

I noticed your reversion of my edit to the Donald Winnicott article regarding the antisocial tendency section. To be honest, I'm a bit confused about what aspects of my edit weren't neutral.

My contribution aimed to expand on one of Winnicott's significant theories (on which he published several papers). Other sections of the page already contain similar detailed explanations of Winnicott's various theories. I was careful to present these ideas as Winnicott's theories rather than as objective facts.

I would appreciate any specific suggestions on how I could modify the content to better meet Wikipedia's neutrality standards. Perhaps it would be better if I first shared my proposed edits on the talk page?

Thank you for your understanding and feedback.

Best regards,

Donald Vaughan Sinclair Donald Vaughan Sinclair (talk) 07:14, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

For one because the source was published by the same person, it would be considered a WP:PRIMARY source, which is allowed, however, independent, third party reliable sources are preferred in this context. See WP:V. Hopes this helps. Also see the WP:MOS for more detail. Codename AD ^talk 07:18, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clarifying. I understand the preference for secondary sources, but I'm a bit confused about the application in this case. Since this is Winnicott's biographical page, it seems appropriate to describe his theories using his own published works as sources - especially for accurately representing what he actually proposed.

The existing article already cites Winnicott's primary works in other sections when describing his theories. For consistency, shouldn't the antisocial tendency section follow the same approach?

If the concern is about providing proper context, I'd be happy to add secondary sources that discuss this particular theory's reception or significance in the field. Would that address the issue? Donald Vaughan Sinclair (talk) 07:25, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Adding secondary sources would fix the issue, however they need to support the article, and be a reliable source per WP:RS. See the next section, WP:SECONDARY, which explains secondary sources. Using a primary source supported by a reliable source, that is acceptable per WP:PRIMARY#1. Codename AD ^talk 07:33, 8 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

News and updates for administrators from the past month (March 2025).

Administrator changes

• Giraffer
• Goldsztajn

Dennis Brown

• Cyclonebiskit
• Nohat
• Someguy1221

Bureaucrat changes

Barkeep49

CheckUser changes

0xDeadbeef

Oversighter changes

GB fan

Moneytrees

Miscellaneous

• Sign up for The Core Contest, a competition running from 15 April to 31 May to improve vital articles.