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Recent changes
You can add ?safemode=1 to the end of the URL on Wikimedia wikis to disable your personal CSS and JavaScript. Example: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literature?safemode=1. This means you can test if a problem is because of your user scripts or gadgets without uninstalling them. [1]
The Wikiversity and Wikinews logos are now shown directly from the configuration and not from [[File:Wiki.png]]. If you want to change logo or have an anniversary logo, see how to request a configuration change. This is how it already works for other projects. They can request logo changes the same way. [3]
Problems
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 19 April. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this. This will also happen on 3 May.
Changes this week
There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 18 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Page Previews will be turned on for logged-out users on a large number of wikis in May. It could be postponed and happen later. Page Previews shows readers a short part of a linked article when they rest their mouse pointer on the link. This is to help them understand what it is about without leaving the article they are reading. Page Previews used to be called Hovercards. Users who have tested the feature can give feedback. [4]
From next week, user scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions will show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. [5][6]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
When administrators, bureaucrats and stewards make a user a member of a user group they can now set an expiry date. A user group is for example "administrators" or "bots". This means that they can give someone user rights for a limited time. This is similar to how blocks and page protections can be limited in time. Special:UserRights will have new options for this. You can read more about user groups.[8]
Problems
Since the data centre test last week the content translation tool has been disabled. This is because of a database problem. It will be back as soon as the problem has been solved. [9]
Changes this week
The GuidedTour extension will be enabled on all wikis. This is a tool to explain to new users how to edit. [10]
Wiktionary will handle interlanguage links in a new way. The Cognate extension will automatically link pages with the same title between Wiktionaries. For this to work all old interlanguage links have to be removed. You can read more about this. [11]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 25 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 26 April. It will be on all wikis from 27 April (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 25 April at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
I don't want to go "bold" and change the infobox title back to just "Alternative medicine" since you seem to watch the page often, but didn't the consensus on the talk page discussion end with "no consensus to change title," which means that we're not supposed to change it to "Alternative and pseudo-medicine?" I don't want to take side on this issue, and obviously this is quite a controversial one, but I think we need to conform with the consensus and stick with "Alternative medicine" until further discussion can take place. Let me know what you think. --AsianHippie (talk) 05:39, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
My bad. I'm referring to the Template:Alternative_medicine_sidebar. I saw on the talk page of it that concluded a discussion on changing the template title to "Alternative and pseudo-medicine" with "no consensus on changing the current title." Any explanation is much appreciated. --AsianHippie (talk) 00:20, 27 April 2017 (UTC)
I'm not wild about {{Editnotices/Group/Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Medicine}}. Have you tried editing WT:MED with "New wikitext mode" enabled at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-betafeatures? Edit notices appear as pop-ups, which is great (better than the older wikitext editors) at getting people to read them, but very annoying when you edit the same page, and therefore get urgently warned about the same issues, over and over and over again. (They're also invisible to people using Mobile Web, but that's not a lot of the traffic for that talk page.) WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:04, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
What do you propose? It might be a tad long, but that is only because I did nothing to rewrite it upon implementing. That one is warned about the same issues over and over again may be worth talking to the team working on the feature about (maybe you should suggest a "do not show again" box). Carl Fredrik talk20:11, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
How about just removing it entirely? It's redundant (the material is copied from the top of the page), it addresses problems that we don't actually have (when was the last time you remember seeing a request for medical advice on that page?), and nobody reads it (because banner blindness is a thing). WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:21, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
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Scripts using very old deprecated wikibits functions show errors. These functions have not worked since 2013. You should fix or disable broken scripts. You can see examples of how to upgrade scripts. This is the same thing as Tech News wrote about in issue 2017/16. You need to addmw.loader.using( 'mediawiki.util' ) block for your scripts also, or add mediawiki.util dependency in gadget ResourceLoader section in MediaWiki:Gadgets-definition. [13][14]
Problems
Because of a data centre test you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for 20 to 30 minutes on 3 May. This will start at 14:00 (UTC). You might lose edits if you try to save during this time. You can read more about this.
Changes this week
There is no new MediaWiki version this week. This is because of the data centre test.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 2 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
All Wikimedia wikis will have cookie blocks from May 8. This is an extension to the autoblock system so when a user is blocked, the next time they visit the wiki a cookie will be set. This means that even if the user switches accounts and to a new IP address the cookie will block them again. [15]
The Publish changes, Show preview and Show changes buttons will look slightly different. This is to fit with the OOUI look. Users can test scripts, gadgets and so on to see if they work with the new interface by adding &ooui=1 to the URL. [16]
Thank you for being one of Wikipedia's top medical contributors!
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The 2016 Cure Award
In 2016 you were one of the top ~200 medical editors across any language of Wikipedia. Thank you from Wiki Project Med Foundation for helping bring free, complete, accurate, up-to-date health information to the public. We really appreciate you and the vital work you do! Wiki Project Med Foundation is a user group whose mission is to improve our health content. Consider joining here, there are no associated costs.
Worked more on support for lexicographical data (specifically support for lexicographic category and statements on forms)
Dealt with issues after the deployment of automatic interwiki links for Wiktionary
Worked on constraint violation user script based on your feedback (improving messages to make it more understandable, layout, etc)
Add support for the following new language codes for monolingual text properties: brx, chn, cop, gez, quc, kjh, nr (will become available in a few days)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Some users have a problem with the watchlist. Some changes in categories make the watchlist a blank page. The developers are working on this. Until this is fixed you can try some things that have helped other editors if you have this problem. You can turn on Hide categorization of pages in your watchlist preferences. You can turn off Expand watchlist to show all changes, not just the most recent in your watchlist preferences. You can remove problematic categories from Special:EditWatchlist/raw. [17]
There was a problem with the visual editor for several days. You could not save edits that triggered a CAPTCHA. This would for example be when a new user added external links in references. This was fixed on 2 May. [18]
Changes this week
When you edit you can switch between the visual editor and the wikitext editor. This works if the wiki you edit has the visual editor. The menu will now say Visual editing and Source editing instead of Switch to visual editing and Switch to code editing. This is because it was confusing when the menu said you could switch to the editor you were already using. [19]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 9 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 10 May. It will be on all wikis from 11 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 9 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
You will be able to get a notification when a page you created is connected to a Wikidata item. This will come to Wikivoyage on 9 May. If there are no problems it will come to most Wikipedias on 30 May. It will come to other projects and English, French and German Wikipedia later in the summer. It will be opt-in for existing users and opt-out for new users. [20][21]
Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. If -{ is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use -<nowiki/>{ for transclusions and %2D{ in web addresses. A transclusion could for example be when you use -{ in a template: {{1x| sad :-{ face }}. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. [22][23]
Netherlands report: The Netherlands and the World: Photo hunt Chinsurah; Photohunt public library Tilburg; Wikipedian in Residence for UNESCO's Memory of the World programme in the Netherlands; Picture books from Koninklijke Bibliotheek
Spain report: Management and dissemination of cultural heritage
Sweden report: GLAM-EduWiki collaboration awarded Pedagogy Award of the year at Swedish museums; Connected Open Heritage
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can now use ISBNs to automatically generate citations in the visual editor. This works on wikis that have enabled Citoid. [24]
The mediawiki.util library does not load automatically any more. Your Special:MyPage/common.js may use it. If you have technical problems that started a couple of weeks ago you can try adding mw.loader.using('mediawiki.util').done(function(){ as the first line in the file and }); as a last one. Tech News wrote about this in the 2017/18 issue. [26]
Changes this week
The RevisionSlider extension will be a default feature on all wikis. RevisionSlider is an easier way to move between changes in the page history. It has been a default feature on German, Arabic and Hebrew Wikipedia and a beta feature on all wikis. You will be able to turn it off in your preferences. [27]
There is no new MediaWiki version this week.
Future changes
Administrators will soon be able to search through deleted pages. [28][29]
Markup that looks like code for language variants might need to be fixed. Tech News wrote about this last week. If -{ is used in transclusions or web addresses it has to be escaped appropriately. You can use -<nowiki/>{ for transclusions and %2D{ in web addresses. This is because of some code fixes to the preprocessor and affects all wikis. You can now see the full list of wikis with this problem and help fix them to avoid that things break later this month. You might find false positives. You can read more about what to fix. [30][31]
Older unreported changes
Your Meta user page is shown on all wikis where you don't have a local user page. You can now add the magic word __NOGLOBAL__ to your Meta user page to stop this. [32][33]
Hi CFCF! Just noticed you reverted some of my old edits in Neck manipulation. In my opinion the wording of the Risks section is pretty biased as it shows a risk without citing properly that the mentioned risk is admittedly minuscule. My sources were not meant to disprove a chance of VBA, but rather show it's incredible unlikelihood of occurring. I'm going to add in a simple sentence to the end of the paragraph which I think, in hindsight, will work better. Let me know if this is ok. I know you are a medical student and likely wary of chiropractic (look, I get it) but removing well-sourced information isn't the purpose of Wikipedia, even if personal opinions differ. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 12:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Hey again! Sorry for the double post, I have went ahead and made some changes to the article. I think you'll find my changes non-biased and well-sourced. I added in the lead some information found elsewhere in the article and found additional citations for those in addition, just in case any of it could be construed as controversial. Hope you agree with my changes, please let me know where we can improve on the page rather than reverting them all. Thanks! SEMMENDINGER (talk) 20:06, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 23 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 24 May. It will be on all wikis from 25 May (calendar).
There will be a <div> tag around HTML from the MediaWiki wikitext parser. Gadgets with code that does not follow recommendations could have problems with this. You can report new problems you think are related to this. [34]
Hi Carl—what an interesting user page you have. I'm getting the sense that you do really valuable work on en.WP. Thank you!
I see that you added a few images to the article "Lateral pterygoid". I know my lateral pterygoids only too well, unfortunately. My question is whether the tufts anatomical link, which appears to be dead, has a new URL, or is not worth bothering with, or perhaps you can suggest an equivalent. Should I remove it from the External links section?
Hi Tony1 — feel free to remove such links even if they are in the format of templates, if you do not find them useful. Unfortunately many old rests from Wikipedias infancy remain in anatomy articles, as there is quite a small community curating them. Good to see you working on them :), keep it up. Carl Fredrik talk23:25, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
Neck Manipulation
Hey again, what issue did you take with those sources removed here? All were formatted correctly and all clearly supported the sentence I had before them. SEMMENDINGER (talk) 00:58, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
Past: WikiCite, May 23rd-25th in Vienna. Documentation will be available soon, in the meantime you can check on Twitter and the video streams to see what happened
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Last week’s MediaWiki version was rolled back from some wikis because of a problem. This means planned changes did not happen. [35]
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 30 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
This is an archive of past discussions with User:CFCF. Do not edit the contents of this page. If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the current talk page.
An editor has asked for a Move review of 2019–20 Wuhan coronavirus outbreak. Because you closed the move discussion for this page, or otherwise were interested in the page, you might want to participate in the move review. ( I'm pasting this template as requested per the instructions at WP:MR). I would have waited (for your response), but Hzh suggested I put the move to review sooner rather than later. Sorry and Regards) Sean Heron (talk) 23:20, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
I'm totally uninterested in participating Sean Heron. Starting a review is only a waste of time — which was what I wanted to avoid by closing the RM. I do not see anything that I did being out of the ordinary or wrong and have nothing to contribute to a review. Carl Fredrik talk02:48, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
Hi, I've been reluctant to reply while things were still ongoing (I've been involved in too many not so nice disagreements here over the years - nothing to do with you personally!). Just wanted to say I honestly didn't mean to be disruptive, and that my view still is that the review was useful - of course I may be misjudging, but I had the feeling it helped catalyse the discussion on the move that now went through. (I guess you might also view your "close" as being a part of that catalysis, so with hindsight I guess I see it in a more friendly light than when I put it to review!).
At the same time I can definitely see your honest intentions when you closed the RM, so I certainly hold no hard feelings! Hope the whole thing wasn't all too frustrating, and best regards, Sean Heron (talk) 23:22, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
