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Round 1 is now over. The top 64 scorers have progressed to round 2, where they have been randomly split into eight pools of eight. At the end of April, the top two from each pool, as well as the 16 highest scorers from those remaining, will progress to round 3. Commiserations to those eliminated; if you're interested in still being involved in the WikiCup, able and willing reviewers will always be needed, and if you're interested in getting involved with other collaborative projects, take a look at the WikiWomen's Month discussed below.
Round 1 saw 21 competitors with over 100 points, which is fantastic; that suggests that this year's competition is going to be highly competative. Our lower scores indicate this, too: A score of 19 was required to reach round 2, which was significantly higher than the 11 points required in 2012 and 8 points required in 2011. The score needed to reach round 3 will be higher, and may depend on pool groupings. In 2011, 41 points secured a round 3 place, while in 2012, 65 was needed. Our top three scorers in round 1 were:
Miyagawa (submissions), primarily for an array of did you knows and good articles, some of which were awarded bonus points.
Casliber (submissions), due in no small part to Canis Minor, a featured article awarded a total of 340 points. A joint submission with Keilana (submissions), this is the highest scoring single article yet submitted in this year's competition.
Other contributors of note include:
Sven Manguard (submissions), whose Portal:Massachusetts is the first featured portal this year. The featured portal process is one of the less well-known featured processes, and featured portals have traditionally had little impact on WikiCup scores.
Featured topics have still played no part in this year's competition, but once again, a curious contribution has been offered by The C of E (submissions): did you know that there is a Shit Brook in Shropshire? With April Fools' Day during the next round, there will probably be a good chance of more unusual articles...
March sees the WikiWomen's History Month, a series of collaborative efforts to aid the women's history WikiProject to coincide with Women's History Month and International Women's Day. A number of WikiCup participants have already started to take part. The project has a to-do list of articles needing work on the topic of women's history. Those interested in helping out with the project can find articles in need of attention there, or, alternatively, add articles to the list. Those interested in collaborating on articles on women's history are also welcome to use the WikiCup talk page to find others willing to lend a helping hand. Another collaboration currently running is an an effort from WikiCup participants to coordinate a number of Easter-themed did you know articles. Contributions are welcome!
A few final administrative issues. From now on, submission pages will need only a link to the article and a link to the nomination page, or, in the case of good article reviews, a link to the review only. See your submissions' page for details. This will hopefully make updating submission pages a little less tedious. If you are concerned that your nomination—whether it is at good article candidates, a featured process, or anywhere else—will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) J Milburn (talk) 11:50, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
I second the pleasure at the lack of the retired template. It seems that wikipedia is not irreversibly broken after all. Thanks for the cheeseburger. Tazerdadog (talk) 00:07, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
No problem. Eat it in good health! I know, that sounds like a contradiction, telling someone to eat a cheeseburger in good health! AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 00:08, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
A few years ago, I worked in an office which shared office space with another company. They actually worked on rocket design. We occasionally played ultimate with them at lunch, and more often that we should have found an excuse to use the line.--SPhilbrick(Talk)20:16, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
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I've replied to your claim of "involvement" on AN/I. I would very much like to see what evidence you have of "involvement", given that I'd never heard of this editor before a couple of days ago, and prior to that was on pretty good terms with Demiurge1000. I am really hurt that you would jump to such conclusions about my motives, and would like to know why you've done so. 28bytes (talk) 20:06, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Suffice it to say, I feel that your involvement in this entire situation is significant enough that it would have been wise to allow another admin to handle Gwickwire, if it was really necessary to block him, which I am not sure about. I'm not making any conclusions about your motives, nor am I trying to offend you. However, since I appear to be unable to comment on the dark side of Wikipedia without ticking people off, I will refrain from further commenting on the situation unless I am asked to do so. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 20:43, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
Glad you liked it and thanks for nomming it as well, thereby saving me the time. It is an honor to be part of a DYK nomination with you, as I have respected your content–building work for a time now. Also, I reviewed Template:Did you know nominations/Krikor Kalfayan in preparation for a DYK attempt with Rondón, so you don't necessarily need to do a separate review. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 00:16, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
Song of Solomon 2:11-12 (KJV): "For lo, the winter is past, the rain is over and gone; the flowers appear on the earth; the time of the singing of birds is come, and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land." Friends, baseball season will soon be upon us and as an enthusiastic/optimistic Tigers fan, my World Series prediction is Tigers over Nationals in 7. But I'm not satisfied with just my opinion. I'd like to conduct a little poll here, to see what some of the rest of you think. So, here's what I'm asking: World Series winner and runner-up (and in how many games?), first manager fired (I'll say Bud Black) and one other bold prediction (mine is that the Astros will finish last... er, I mean that the Yankees will miss the postseason). AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 00:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Winner: Reds
Runner up: Angels
First manager fired: Joe Girardi
Bold prediction: Orioles win AL East and Yankees finish last (hence Girardi getting canned, though that's probably the boldest) GoPhightins!00:57, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Champions: Giants
Runner-ups: Orioles
First fired manager: Dale Sveum
Bold predictions: Indians get worst record in AL, Astros, well, last. Mariners barely escape the AL West cellar, Phillies go below .500, Yankees fans invade and capture Boston, beginning a week-long war, aliens steal cars and fly over Comerica Park, my TV loses signal during the World Series.
Ah, Theo, ever the killjoy . I can't speak for the others, but I plan on doing some stat updates during the season and updating the team season articles, so this is moderately on point. You're probably right though, that we're not a forum and this may be using it like one. GoPhightins!19:14, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Theo, this is totally acceptable. Perhaps that is a bit hypocritical due to my comments at User talk:Deidra C.#poll, but the difference is she had been using Wikipedia as a social network. When editors are productive, it's perfectly fine for them to discuss things not directly related to Wikipedia. RyanVesey19:34, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
You guys are all fantastic contributors to the project, and a little off-topic discussion like this is, as Ryan said, totally okay...still, a poll like this gave me pause, especially given User talk:Deidra C.#poll (I had actually just been reading through that interesting series of events prior to making my comments here, which probably contributed to my brashness.) Regardless, in no way did I intend to come across as a killjoy. ;) —Theopolisme(talk)23:15, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
I've been meaning for a while to open discussion on officially modifying WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK to clarify that Wikipedia is not a place for people looking for a social network; however, social network type activities are acceptable among Active editors. I'm not going to get around to it, but if anyone else does, ping me. RyanVesey01:21, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Hey! I'm JHUbal27 trying to get noticed. I would call myself a productie editor and am therefore replying to your poll. The Baltimore Orioles will win, followed by the Chicago Cubs as a runner-up. Mike Matheny will get fired. Also, the Oriole Bird will get drunk, attempt to fly, and fall onto the field. JHUbal27•Talk•E-mail01:31, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Some surprising predictions, (especially Matheny)! Anyway, no hard feelings, Theo. That is an interesting suggestion, Ryan. I may look into it. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 01:34, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
Re: Bureaucrat
Hi. It's possible that I could try running. I ran a few years back and did somewhat well, but didn't make the cut. It's not all that tough being one admittedly, figuring out WP:CHU and consensus on RfA closures is simple enough. RfB's probably no worse than RfA, but then again I'm not sure if that's something I want to go through. Wizardman02:19, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
Hello AutomaticStrikeout, Eduemoni↑talk↓ has given you a shining smiling star! You see, these things promote WikiLove and hopefully this has made your day better. Spread the Shining Smiling Star whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or someone putting up with some stick at this time. Enjoy! Eduemoni↑talk↓03:47, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
ArbCom are people too--and Giano never said they were. Pouring oil on the fire is rarely helpful, and in this case your selective adaptation also completely misses the point Giano was making--the anonymous informer, and how that is problematic in a community that should be more transparent (on that most everyone agrees, I think). Please don't add fuel to the fire. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 01:58, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I was not specifically thinking of Giano's comments when I wrote the essay and I'm not going to say that his argument is without merit (frankly, I think he might have a point about the use of checkuser in this incident). My objective here was to remind everybody that the Arbs are real people, I was not targeting Giano and I apologize if it came across that way. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 02:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Actually, I do think Arbs are people too--some of my best friends are Arbs. Well, I'm friends with their alternate accounts. Drmies (talk) 02:52, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I wasn't necessarily trying to say that anyone believes that Arbs are not people, it was just that perhaps sometimes some editors (apparently not including you, which is good) need to be reminded that they are dealing with another person, one who has feelings. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 02:59, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
Well, I don't know that this here qualifies as a project, but I imagine this one does. I'm trying to get it off the ground, but I'm having trouble with the invitation template, which has been a pain. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 21:02, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
I am sorry about the Hall of Fame and that I !voted for its deletion. It's no reflection whatsoever on you, but rather my ill-faith in the community to run the project as you intend for it. If it were to be run properly, I have no doubt it would thrive, but in the current climate, I just don't think it would. That said, I hope you keep your hall of fame alive, as that is something that is certainly not drama-filled! GoPhightins!01:31, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
Discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's articles for improvement
Thank you for the talkback, but at this point, I'm not going to spend any further time fighting to get that on the main page. No matter how hard we try on this, too many people are going to find a reason to be a hindrance. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C) 13:12, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
May I just say that the fight is actually won? It took a long time, sure; but we are almost there now. Everyone has agreed that there is no reason to stop TAFI any further now, and it is only a matter of time (either till 25th March or 8th April), and an uninvolved admin before we go live. TheOriginalSoni (talk) 09:08, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
From its MfD, it appears to be a certainty that the Hall of Fame is going to be deleted. [I certainly do support the idea of such a project, and do regret that others do not] But moving forward, could I ask you to suggest it being taken under the wings of EotW? At EotW, we certainly had this idea of encouraging everyone, and not just new editors. If you and everyone there support such an idea, we could be running HoF in a similar way to the way EotW is being currently run.
Don't worry about it, there are some very hostile people, and some who are merely very blunt and appear hostile. There are reasons to support your idea, and reasons to oppose it, with a little luck these will come out and be weighed, and the ad-hominem stuff can be forgotten. RichFarmbrough, 01:16, 22 March 2013 (UTC).
Buster7 has stopped by and given you some Nice Speculaas Koekjes which promote fellowship and goodwill among editors. Spread the good flavor of Nice Koekjes around Wiki World by sharing them with someone else. Maybe to a friend or, better yet, to someone you have had disagreements with in the past. Nice Biscuits are very tasty and have been known to be so NICE, they will even bake themselves. Enjoy!
I request you not to comment back to Leaky Cauldron on that MfD. It does not do any good to you or the MfD to feed him, further straining the discussion there. Let the rest of us say, if a reply to him is required. Meanwhile, since 3 editors currently support the idea of having HoF under the WER (not EotW), I'll ask and see if it can be made as a sister project. I think people will support such an idea.
Honestly, the reason for the two links is that I didn't know how to make it one link and hadn't looked into it. As for the CSS tag and deprecated font tags, I really know very little about a lot of this stuff and have copied somewhat from other people's signatures and made changes where it seemed necessary. Did this fix the problems? As for the local time info, are you referring to what I have in my edit notice? AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 22:27, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
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As for the substituting situation, I will pursue having my signature page semi-protected. Thank you for your help, as I am somewhat technologically challenged, especially with some of these codes. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 22:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I don't know that it's frowned upon, but, and I'm being WP:BEANSY here, it creates the possibility that someone could modify your sig to say kick me. I think substituting a .js page would solve that problem. Transclude it onto another page if you want to be able to see it (but be sure to ask Writ Keeper before you do any of that). Otherwise it might be good to at least have your sig page semi-protected. RyanVesey22:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
I am new to editing on Wikipedia and I need help. I want to add pictures to some pages so that they have pictures but I don't know how so do you think that you can help me out bro??? --Kingryan227 (talk) 00:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
(edit conflict) Well, you probably can't do that. We have to be very careful with regards to copyright and permissions and all that legal stuff. Even though I don't really understand it all, I'm pretty sure you can't upload most pictures from Google images. Sorry. However, if you want to edit baseball articles, there is other stuff that you can do. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 01:03, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Well thanks I thought that I could just add images from google but thank you anyways I'll just wait until someone adds pictures on there--Kingryan227 (talk) 01:06, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
@Kingryan227: Listen to the other guys as far as images are concerned because those are pretty much out of my realm. If you would like to make baseball edits, I can show you how to update infobox stats. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 01:11, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
That's cool bro um I probably wont be on for much longer but ill be on tomorrow at like 4:00 Wisconsin time but ill be on till 9 so whenever you can help just send me a message bro.--Kingryan227 (talk) 01:24, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Ok. I'm going to try to explain how we update the infobox stats, for anyone who doesn't know and might be interested but primarily for Kingryan227. Hopefully I won't make it too confusing, since it is really quite simple. You'll basically want to do what I did here, updating one or more of the "stat_value" fields and also the stat_year field (which is a little more complicated, as you might need to use the previous date, depending how up-to-date your source is). Remember to use a reliable source like Baseball-Reference.com. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 02:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
Nice to meet you. You have made quite a lot of progress for a newbie. Keep up the good work! I'm glad you liked the cookies and also glad that you shared them with Gerda. She's about the nicest editor we've got around here. Regards, AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 18:13, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
Your use of multiple Wikipedia accounts
Hi. An editor has opened an investigation into sockpuppetry by you. Sockpuppetry is the use of more than one Wikipedia account, which contravenes community policy. The investigation is being held at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/AutomaticStrikeout, where the editor who opened the investigation has presented their evidence. Please make sure you make yourself familiar with the guide to responding to investigations, and then feel free to offer your own evidence or to submit comments that you wish to be considered by the Wikipedia administrator who decides the result of the investigation. If you have been using multiple accounts (in a manner contrary to Wikipedia policy), please go to the investigation page and admit to it now. Leniency is usually shown to those who promise not to do so again, or who did so unwittingly, but the abuse of multiple accounts is taken very seriously by the Wikipedia community.
I just got an email from ASO requesting that I post on his talk for an admin to revert his edit to his common.js page WikiBreak enforcer. Apparently he's had another change of heart. Yay. GoPhightins!02:21, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
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Hey there! Just an honest question: How often should stats be updated on baseball articles? TCN7JM03:47, 2 April 2013 (UTC) (P.S. I'm inclined to talk some kind of trash about the Tigers, but I know Minnesota will inevitably end up in the cellar again.)
Personally, I would say as often as you like. I don't think there needs to be any uniformity to it as we have a field that specifies the date. Just remember to update that field and we should be fine! AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 03:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I regards to "but I know Minnesota will inevitably end up in the cellar again." No way! We're going all the way to the World Series! A man can dream, can't he? RyanVesey17:19, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
On 3 April 2013, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Darin Downs, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that baseball pitcher Darin Downs had to regain the ability to speak after being hit in the head by a batted ball? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Darin Downs. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.
According to this, I have 69 talk page watchers. That's both amazing and flattering. Now, I have to imagine that not all of you are baseball fans, but for those of you who are, just because I'm curious (and also because I want to cheer myself up), I'd like to start up a little survey here. I'd like to know the favorite MLB teams for those of you who have one. The team with the most fans can claim victory in the WikiWorld Series, unless, of course, that team turns out to be the Phillies! AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 19:17, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
I'm going to try out a new feature today. This is a little bulletin with some information that my talk page watchers (and anyone else who comes by) might find interesting. I originally thought about calling it a newsletter, but it's really more like a bulletin board. I don't intend to do this on a regularly scheduled basis, but I might try it again in the future if it is well received. Some miscellaneous tidbits:
Back in January, TheOriginalSoni created a small project entitled "Wikipedia:Rolling Ball" to encourage collaboration. There was a hang out zone that was to serve as a discussion page. Sadly, the members of this project have not been able to keeping to going (or should I say rolling?), so I'm going to give it a plug in the hopes that maybe it can still be saved.
If you enjoy Wiki-drama (or in other words, if you are crazy), you might like to participate in an RfC regarding how April Fools Day should be observed on Wikipedia. Even though I opened the RfC, I've already removed it from my watchlist, but I'll mention it here nonetheless.
With the help of Ryan Vesey, I have managed to start a new WikiLove template: {{Sharethecookies}}. As you might be able to gather from it's name, this template is designed to be spread from one editor to another, ideally reaching many different editors and hopefully having a positive effect on some of them. In order to help see this happen, my plan is to place this template on another editor's talk page once a day. Hopefully, some of them will share the template again, creating a chain. I would greatly appreciate it if some of you might consider using this WikiLove too.
I would like to shamelessly point out that I have a guestbook, one that I might add has not been signed since late January. Hint! Hint!
I'd certainly appreciate your feedback on this bulletin. Do you like this concept? Do you want to make mention of something I may have overlooked? Are you mad at me for wasting five minutes of your life? Please feel free to leave your comments below. AutomaticStrikeout (T • C • AAPT) 16:11, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
Hi AutomaticStrikeout. I saw your weak oppose and how you said "I frankly don't know that I see the need for this"
I'm one of the users that this kind of thing might be meant for, so I thought I should drop you a note to tell you why, me personally, I would want such a feature.
I'm very "anti-combative". I don't want to deal trying to "enforce norms of behavior" through blocks and the like. I wouldn't want to be an admin-- I wouldn't want to even have the technical power to block other editors. I recognize that we need admins, but it's not in my personality type to be one. It would ruin the "Wikipedia Experience" for me try to have that power.
On the other hand, I'd be happy to do wiki-gnome chores that require some level of trust. I can add a new field to a protected infobox template, I can execute non-controversial edits. I just can't (and won't) touch the block userright.
My stance may seem idiosyncratic to you, but I don't think quite as rare as you might think. Shy, non-combative infobox-editing gnomes aren't the same as the people who inhabit Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.
So, that's the theory.
Early opposes can be very influential-- it was worth my time to explain all this to you, in the hope it might change your mind about whether a need exists for this userright. --HectorMoffet (talk) 01:25, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
Ha! I see someone else already got to you. :) Or perhaps my remarks were SO persuasive they went backwards in time??? :) --HectorMoffet (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
