User talk:AutomaticStrikeout/Archive 1

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Nice to make your acquaintance. Here's a couple of things you can do to report vandals:

1) Simply report them to WP:AIV using the documentation found there.

OR

2) Do it the easy way, like I do. Use WP:Twinkle. Install the script to your .js file and you'll have revert, rollback, and full reporting tools at your fingertips. Instructions are here: WP:Twinkle/doc.

Hope this helps. I'm not an administrator or anything like that, but I'm happy to help anytime you have a question. My talk page is open 24/7, although my eyes are not.

Regards, --Manway 00:33, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your help! AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 00:46, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the article name for you. To fix things like this in the future, you would use the move feature. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 19:08, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

Hello! AutomaticStrikeout, you are invited to the Teahouse, a forum on Wikipedia for new editors to ask questions about editing Wikipedia, and get support from peers and experienced editors. Please join us! Sarah (talk) 17:54, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know! I see you've also done great work for umpires and players. I found a couple of photos of Hohn on Flickr and asked the uploaders if they would mind changing the license so they could be used on WP, but I'm not optimistic that they'll respond. I also added a bit of info to the article, as well as a few references, so let me know if that looks okay. Delaywaves • talk 20:22, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

It looks great! I don't really know anything about adding pictures to articles. Do you know if there is any tutorial or something like that? AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:26, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Hmmm...this page seems to have a bit of a tutorial on adding images, but I'd be more than happy to give you a few pointers. Images should be uploaded to Wikimedia Commons, which is basically just the image repository for Wikipedia. Only images with certain licenses (such as Creative Commons licenses) are allowed on Commons, or images that are in the public domain due to their age, or the fact that they were made by the US Government, Army, etc. This page has some info about that. Of course, you can upload any of your own images, but I find Flickr to be a really great place to find images under the right license that can be uploaded here, such as the photos of umpires. You can search for images with a specific license, or, as I frequently do, you can ask users if they would be willing to change a photo's license so it could be used here. (The only Flickr licenses that work here are "Attribution Creative Commons" and "Creative Commons ShareAlike"). It's confusing, but I got the hang of it eventually. Let me know if you have any more questions! Delaywaves • talk 20:53, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for your help! AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:57, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

Hello, AutomaticStrikeout. You have new messages at Dusty777's talk page.
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Dusty777 03:50, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Wow, thank you very much! It's a delight to see someone as dedicated as you to umpiring articles and baseball articles in general. Please do let me know whenever you create a new article or need help in any way. Delaywaves • talk 04:04, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up! I got a photo for Porter and also for Angel Campos. I'll look into Blaser right now. Delaywaves • talk 02:38, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

No problem. Thanks for your help. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 02:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

Note that per WP:SEEALSO, it should be a bulleted list, even if it includes only a single member. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 16:00, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I didn't realize that. Thanks for letting me know. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 18:38, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

I didn't even know the notice board for disputes existed. It was a very good avenue to take, IMO. Around 2 days ago I sought advice on User:Dayewalker's talk page but don't see a reply from him as of yet. Let me know if I need to leave any further comments on any other pages other than the Dunn talk page. Cheers! Zepppep (talk) 09:58, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. I hope we will be able to resolve this matter in a calm and peaceful manner. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 15:28, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

He's at it again. Another user has backed up WP policy and what we have both been saying on the Dunn talk page.Zepppep (talk) 12:50, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

On 20 May 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Bill Hohn, which you created or substantially expanded. The fact was ... that umpire Bill Hohn once fist-bumped a player following the conclusion of a game? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Bill Hohn.You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check) and it will be added to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:04, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of Major League Baseball players designated for assignment in 2012 is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Major League Baseball players designated for assignment in 2012 until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. Secret ^account 01:41, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

I note that the NBA has a comprehensive transaction list, List of 2011–12 NBA season transactions. If a similar general list was maintained regularly and sourced, it is possible that few would object, but this is purely my opinion.—Bagumba (talk) 05:40, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, thanks for your advice. I can consider it, but it would take a lot of work. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 16:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Definitely a lot of work. I'm not sure if WP:LISTN supports the NBA article, but nobody has complained about it that I can see and consensus can choose to use common sense instead of following guidelines. In my experience, the latter is more likely to happen for nice-looking articles.—Bagumba (talk) 16:55, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I have begun work on a similar article for the MLB here. I would greatly appreciate your input/assistance. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:11, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I'll keep you on my Watchlist for the time being, so need for further notifications for now. First of all, the comprehensive article was only a suggestion, and I wasn't necessarily implying you had to undertake it. Kudos if you have interest. Along that same line, I'm happy to offer advice and the occasional edit, but I don't have enough interest to be a main contributor. A sortable table should alleviate any complaints that this information should go into team articles—the information could be sorted on demand by team. Is MLBTradeRumors a reliable site? It might be (I'm not sure) but the name sounds suspicious. A site without "rumors" in the name would avoid such questions.—Bagumba (talk) 17:33, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Actually, the tables are sortable, although it would be nice if I could make that more obvious. I believe that said site is reliable, but perhaps you are right that the name sounds suspicious. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:41, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I fixed the sort problem. See Help:Sorting#Header_styling.2C_links.2C_and_markup.—Bagumba (talk) 18:07, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 18:13, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

You recently removed content from the Bill Welke article that was reliably sourced. The incident has been reported in over 300 different media outlets, but you think it's not noteworthy? Please restore the text you removed. - 68.245.179.164 (talk) 02:57, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Blown calls happen every day and most of them are not going to be noted on Wikipedia. Even if you can show that this case is different (and it may be because of the ramifications), you still need to re-word the removed text so that it can be considered neutral. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:17, 30 May 2012 (UTC)

Hi, just wanted to say welcome to the motto project! benzband (talk) 17:13, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and thanks for the help on the review. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:15, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Updating baseball manager's records daily might be recentism. Perhaps updating the records twice a year might suffice, and it would save you a lot of editing. This isn't meant as anything but constructive criticism :) Orsoni (talk) 01:12, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for your input. You may be right and it can be a drain anyway. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 01:18, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Is there a general umpire template? Would your template handle only current MLB umpires? Are there WP:N minor league umpires (possibly largely notable for prior roles)?--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:46, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I am not aware of any such template and I have not seen one on any umpire pages. I am only intending to add current full-time MLB umpires (not AAA call-ups for vacation relief and the like). AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 17:49, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Post at WP:MLB. I see that Dan Crawford (basketball referee) (NBA), Darell Garretson (NBA), Jerry Markbreit (NFL) seem to use Template:Infobox person. Brian Runge, Doug Harvey (umpire) and the MLB umpires don't seem to use anything. Not sure what is right.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:11, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

I wasn't referring to the infobox, I meant a navbox at the bottom of the article. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 18:13, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Current fulltime navbox is a good idea, IMO.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 18:38, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Try putting an asterisk at the beginning of each line and removing the comma.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 19:01, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for you help. It looks ready for primetime! AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 19:03, 8 June 2012 (UTC)

Regarding notability, ping WT:MLB.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 17:48, 10 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's wishing you a belated welcome to Wikipedia, AutomaticStrikeout. I see that you've already been around a while and wanted to thank you for your contributions. Though you seem to have been successful in finding your way around, you may benefit from following some of the links below, which help editors get the most out of Wikipedia:

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Again, welcome! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 13:46, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Why thanks. I just hope the cookies don't contain any nuts. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 16:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi AutomaticStrikeout, I'd like to ask you for a big favor :) My colleagues are running a research project on MoodBar/Feedback Dashboard, to see what effect responses have on newbie editing levels. More details about this test are here on Meta. Can you help us temporarily clear the backlog at Special:FeedbackDashboard by June 19th, so the researchers can have a big sample to work with? You can also help by spreading the word among other FD responders you know. Every little bit counts! Thanks muchly, Maryana (WMF) (talk) 00:06, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi AutomaticStrikeout/Archive 1. After reviewing your request for rollback, I have enabled rollback on your account. Keep in mind these things when going to use rollback:

• Getting rollback is no more momentous than installing Twinkle.
• Rollback should be used to revert clear cases of vandalism only, and not good faith edits.
• Rollback should never be used to edit war.
• If abused, rollback rights can be revoked.
• Use common sense.

If you no longer want rollback, contact me and I'll remove it. Also, for some more information on how to use rollback, see Wikipedia:New admin school/Rollback (even though you're not an admin). I'm sure you'll do great with rollback, but feel free to leave me a message on my talk page if you run into troubles or have any questions about appropriate/inappropriate use of rollback. Thank you for helping to reduce vandalism. Happy editing! v/r - TP 03:06, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. I shall do my best to use rollback responsibly. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 16:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

We at the Motto of the Day would be extremely grateful if you could review a couple of "special" nominations for the Opening Ceremony of the London 2012 Olympics on the 27th of July 2012. Here is the link to the first nomination, if you can help. The others follow it, and you can add your own ones or improve the existing nominations, of course.
Thank you so very much in advance! –pjoef (talk • contribs) 09:45, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

A WikiProject sounds like a great idea! To be honest, I'm not entirely sure how to form one or what exactly they consist of, but I'd love to help if one is made. Delaywaves • talk 21:25, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Sounds good! Let me know if there are any other ways I can help with the discussion/nomination. Delaywaves • talk 18:47, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Also, excellent job with the umpires navbox! I didn't notice it until just now, it looks great! I'm surprised there wasn't one before. Delaywaves • talk 19:29, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Whoops! My mistake, thanks for the fix. Delaywaves • talk 19:35, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Wow, thanks for the revert. My first userpage vandalism! It's a milestone! Delaywaves • talk 16:38, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

Here's the userbox. I decided to choose blue and gray for the colors, and couldn't find any good photo relevant to umps other than the WP Baseball icon of the mitt and glove. You can edit the template if you want; all you have to do to change the colors is type in the new color name where the old one is, unless you want more complex ones. I'll work on the banner now. Delaywaves • talk 19:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I couldn't figure out how to create the banner, I'll ask on the WP Baseball talk page. I did add the umps task force to the WikiProject Baseball Navigation box (it's under "General Subprojects"), which appears on every project-related page. Delaywaves • talk 19:53, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Wound up asking the Help desk instead, as answers are more guaranteed there and it's actually meant for questions, whereas the WikiProject talk seems a bit more discussion-oriented. Delaywaves • talk 20:16, 21 June 2012 (UTC)

Congrats on getting this subject to task force level ! To make the page look a little better, I might humbly suggest using the one I made for the old-time task force as a template, then you change things up from there. I used the St. Louis Cardinals page for mine. There are many other good examples as well. As far as working on articles, I will start an umpire soon to help get things moving. I have one FL almost through the process, and will be sending one more up once I run it through a peer review, plus I have an article in my user space to send up through GA once it is done. I haven't decided which umpire yet, but I will try to narrow it down soon. Happy editing !Neonblak ^talk - 04:43, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

I won't have the time to work on the task force page, but I would encourage you, or anyone else to update it, gives it a little more credibility (?). What is there to discuss anyway? Be Bold! Neonblak ^talk - 02:39, 25 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi A.S., just letting you know that I'll be going away for about 3 weeks starting tomorrow, and I won't be able to do any editing during that time. Best of luck with the umps, and I look forward to seeing the progress that's been made when I get back! Delaywaves • talk 23:24, 24 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for participating in my RFA! I appreciate your support. Zagalejo^^^ 06:34, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. Congratulations on doing so well! AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 13:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

I really like the new page layout, good job. Ryan Vesey Review me! 00:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thank you! AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 00:31, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

This is also a serious need. I have never created or changed a template in the years I have been editing. But there may be a need to create an "Umpire Retired" in addition to the one now (which I think needs a tweak as well). If there is an infobox for the retired umps, it uses a bio infobox. I will look into creating this. Good job on the taskforce page BTW.Neonblak ^talk - 03:39, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I am working on the infobox as we speak. It might take me awhile, but we've lived with it for this long, a little longer will not be a problem.Neonblak ^talk - 16:32, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the assist. Just trying to go around and update stuff a little bit. NBAfan321 (talk) 20:57, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! NBAfan321 (talk) 23:13, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll write that one this Sunday. Can you please give me a link to the retrosheet page? Thanks, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 20:44, 6 July 2012 (UTC).

 Done Can I please trouble you for the retrosheet page of the last umpiring article that neets to be created? Thanks, Electriccatfish2 (talk) 16:23, 8 July 2012 (UTC).

 Done Any more articles? Electriccatfish2 (talk) 22:17, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

I looked at Joe West and now I see why you needed rollback! There is a ton of vandalism there, and many BLP violations, and even a username violation (I reported Joewestsucks to UAA). Electriccatfish2 (talk) 10:53, 9 July 2012 (UTC)

Hi! First of all, Joewestsucks got indeffed. Second of all, what do you think about starting a patrol of umpire articles here? I can help train people who want to participate, but don't have any experience, as I am currently an instructor at the CVUA (and have been nominated to serve as the Coordinator there). Your thoughts? Electriccatfish2 (talk) 21:33, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

It may be useful to create a page that lists every article in the project so that editors who want to patrol all of the articles can copy it into their raw watchlist. I can create a list with AWB, but I don't know what to do about removing the wikimarkup in it. That might need to be a manual process. Ryan Vesey Review me! 21:36, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

The main purpose of this is to remove all of the vandalism from these pages. Electriccatfish2 (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I checked around 20 articles but didn't detect vandalism -- but I understand that after any given loss, someone might decide to add some crazy language to any umpire's page. I made some additions to one or two articles, but other than that, I'm afraid several of the articles are going to be very list-like and not prose-like, with simple mentions of "this umpire was at first base the night so and so hit his 3,000th hit" etc. I guess I just find there are other articles, even other baseball-related articles, that need a lot of work. Zepppep (talk) 01:45, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Wondering if rather than deleting his POB from the lead you could simply change it to read "is a Venezuelan professional starting pitcher currently playing with the New York Mets"? Zepppep (talk) 00:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Although the article contains two sources, these may not be enough to confirm the information. I've encountered articles containing references with contradicting information. SwisterTwister talk 20:37, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I understand your point. However, in this case the information is confirmed by the sources. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:41, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

How is it contradictory? Electric Catfish 20:47, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't think SwisterTwister is saying it necessarily is in this case (it isn't). However, I think the article is really short and I will work on making at least a small expansion. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

I'll try to help. Please note that there isn't much information about him besides his ejection of Yadier Molina in St. Louis. Electric Catfish 01:17, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

I think you're getting your umpires mixed up. You are likely thinking of Rob Drake. Conroy has never ejected Molina. AutomaticStrikeout 01:42, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

See this. Best, Electric Catfish 12:00, 2 August 2012 (UTC).

I see. However, Molina was not ejected from that game and I believe the gesture you are seeing is Conroy pointing at home plate. As an aside, I believe Bill Welke did eject Mike Matheny later on over a call at second base. (I need a hobby!) AutomaticStrikeout 16:25, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, AutomaticStrikeout. You have new messages at Electriccatfish2's talk page.
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Electric Catfish 20:43, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Any more articles? Electric Catfish 20:48, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

My apologies, I'm not completely sure what you are asking about. AutomaticStrikeout (talk) 20:51, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Do you have any more articles that need to be create about umpires (as of now, I've created 12 articles in total)? Electric Catfish 21:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

None off the top of my head. If I think of one I'll get back to you. AutomaticStrikeout 21:23, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! Electric Catfish 21:25, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

There is Mark Lollo, but there may not be a ton of information to find for him, other than here. AutomaticStrikeout 21:28, 31 July 2012 (UTC)

 Done Thanks! Electric Catfish 19:06, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

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Blocked for 24 hours and today's edits reverted. Thanks for the notice. Nyttend (talk) 03:40, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

I left a note on Nyttend's talk page you may be interested in. I don't know how many issues you've faced as of late with Mnap25 but the note I left may be of interest to you. Cheers. Zepppep (talk) 03:56, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

As you can probably tell, I just responded to that note on your talk page. AutomaticStrikeout 03:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry I wanted to put a new image up for wiggins. After he won gold it is only fitting, and the current pic doesn't include his sideburns. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.215.66.160 (talk) 17:59, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Hello, AutomaticStrikeout. You have new messages at Wikipedia talk:Today's article for improvement.
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-- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 18:37, 3 August 2012 (UTC)

Your response was very kind. I guess you don't know much about me because if you did you'd know that I'll be an admin when pigs fly! I was being facetious, and you should ignore my silliness, and definitely encourage Ryan to stand. – Lionel ^(talk) 00:37, 5 August 2012 (UTC)

Replied at Wikipedia talk:Today's article for improvement#Status?. -- Toshio Yamaguchi (tlk−ctb) 20:25, 6 August 2012 (UTC)

MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHETHER U WILL STOP TAGGING ME OR NOT???? AND I DONT KNOW HOW U DO IT WITHIN MATTER OF MILLISECONDS BEFORE EVEN THE ARTICLE IS SAVED. ...I DONT KNOW WHETHER THE NAME OF THE ARTICLE IS CAUSING THE PROBLEM. --Payansarun (talk) 22:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for participating in my RfA. I really appreciate your sentiments. I actually agree with you — so long as someone has demonstrated that they are trustworthy and knowledgeable, they should be granted the toolset regardless of their editing preferences. Nevertheless, I really appreciate the experience. I've learned a lot of things over the past week. Take care. =) Master&Expert (Talk) 23:36, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I hope you'll give me an opportunity to support again in about six months. AutomaticStrikeout 23:38, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Should I make this into a redirect for Wikipedia:WikiProject Baseball/Umpires task force? Electric Catfish 23:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I think that is an excellent idea. AutomaticStrikeout 23:49, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

 Done Electric Catfish 23:52, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I think this editor has a a competence issue. I suggest to just kill him with kindness. IRWolfie- (talk) 23:46, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I understand your point and you may be right. I will try to be patient. AutomaticStrikeout 23:48, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I saw what was going on and I'm about to report him to AN/I if he does it again. He's also bugging Jimbo about how you ,Gogo Dodo, and a few other users are harassing him. He obviously isn't here to write an encyclopedia. Electric Catfish 23:51, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

I think he's just upset because his article keeps getting deleted and he put a lot of work into it. It's exasperating to be sure, but given that I want to be an admin someday, I suppose I should get used to it. AutomaticStrikeout 23:53, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

AutomaticStrikeout, no doubt you'll be an admin soon. If you get involved with CSD or anti-vandalism, you will generally get this type of harassment. I've had my userpage/talk page vandalized 16 times, plus an attack page (Electriccatfish2) written about me. It's not right, but it happens. Anyways, Jimbo doesn't comment on these types of stuff and he will likely be blocked. Electric Catfish 23:58, 7 August 2012 (UTC)

They've vandalized ESAL's page now, so it's time to file an AN/I report. Electric Catfish 00:07, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Well, I see the situation has been dealt with now. I had something come up that kept me away for awhile, not that it hurt anything being away while this was dealt with. AutomaticStrikeout 01:22, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Re your message: Thank you for the notice. It appears that I missed all the excitement. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 04:14, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll try to be brave {: Jimfbleak - talk to me? 05:27, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

I tried to fix up Lella Vignelli and make it clear there are references about her career. I would appreciate it if you would take a look. Thanks, Vibhabamba (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

I removed the speedy deletion template for now, to give you some more time on the article. AutomaticStrikeout 22:30, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

In this case, as of the time you tagged it, the article already had a claim of significance. "His drawings are on display around the country". Note that an article may have a claim of significance even if it is not notable. Ryan Vesey 03:11, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thank you for pointing that out. I think I have been too hasty on some of these tags. AutomaticStrikeout 03:13, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

The main thing is that speedy deletion should be unambiguous. Before you add any tag, make sure you think "is there any reason this wouldn't qualify?" or "could any other person possibly think of this differently?" If so, it is better to use PROD or bring the article to AfD. Ryan Vesey 03:20, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Good points. I have been too quick to pull the trigger in several cases, I appreciate you raising the issue here. Constructive criticism (or even helpful advice) is beneficial. AutomaticStrikeout 03:24, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for patrolling new pages. I noticed you sent the article David Marino. This is not necessary, please see WP:Deletion. The usual process is if after doing extensive searches, the article clearly does not meet criteria for inclusion, to tag for Speedy deletion. In the case of unreferenced biographies of living persons, the process is to WP:PROD them. AfD is genarally a last fresort, and 'seem to' is not an accepted criterion - if you feel an article should be deleted, you should cite the policies and guidelines why it should be deleted, such as for example: Fails to meet criteria for music groups at WP:BAND, etc. Please read WP:NPP and and don't hesitate to ask me on my talk page if you would like any help understanding it. Happy editing! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice, I guess I was a little hesitant after having been trigger happy to tag for speedy deletion. AutomaticStrikeout 16:51, 12 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the welcome. I have been here for a while but used to edit from my school computer lab with the rest of the hell raisers. I am here as a positive contributor now and hoping to get some AfD work (at the suggestion of my uncle) to get up to speed on policies. Thanks for the welcome and see ya around. --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 18:49, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I'll be happy to try my hand at answering any questions you have. AutomaticStrikeout 18:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I appreciate it. Some of the AfD's can get pretty heated so I appreciate you helping me understand anything that I vote on that is contrary to guidelines. --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 19:41, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

• Help - I left a recommendation on the CyberSafe page but it is not showing. Did I do something wrong? --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 19:43, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I am quite confused as well. I'll try to find out for you what the problem is. AutomaticStrikeout 19:45, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Shows up when you go into "edit" mode, but not live. Must be with the specific article as I just posted one here. --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 19:50, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that it shows up in edit mode. I don't think you did anything wrong, but I can't say for sure. I raised the problem at the Help desk, so hopefully you'll have an answer soon. AutomaticStrikeout 19:52, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Thanks again. --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 19:55, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

There was an HTML comment on the page that wasn't closed, someone fixed it before I got a chance. I'll watch your talk page as well and try to help you out when you need it. Feel free to stop by the Teahouse as well. Ryan Vesey 19:57, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Yep, looks like problem solved. I guess when you're still fairly new to Wikipedia like I am (sort of), you learn something new every day. AutomaticStrikeout 20:02, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

It took me forever to figure it out (so I was fairly disappointed when I learned that someone else fixed it). I finally moved comments around to make it more open and that let me notice the unclosed comment. Generally when text doesn't appear on the page, there are two things to look for <ref> with no </ref> and <!-- with no --> Ryan Vesey 20:04, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

I see. I knew about the refs but I have less experience with the others. AutomaticStrikeout 20:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

• Again, I appreciate it!! --MalcomMarcomb11376 (talk) 20:03, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. AutomaticStrikeout 20:09, 13 August 2012 (UTC)

Hey there. It's been several days since there were any updates to Talk:List of Major League Baseball leaders in career stolen bases. Since you were the one who opened up the still-open thread, I'm wondering what you might like to do next? Zepppep (talk) 09:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

That's a good question. I wasn't really very involved in the conversation, so maybe Bagumba or Muboshgu would be a better person to answer that. AutomaticStrikeout 16:44, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I think as your'e the one who posed the question, you are the one to sort of bring it to a close or verify that a consensus has been reached. Especially since you haven't given your opinion, I think a non-biased user like yourself would be a good one to do such. On a different note, would invite any comments you might have on the thread Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#How (and when) to update article lists. Zepppep (talk) 23:58, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I did post an opinion but if you still think I should try to determine the consensus I will. AutomaticStrikeout 00:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

My bad. I posed a question to the talk page, asking if consensus has been reached and if so, what's next. Also, thanks for chiming in on the project page. Zepppep (talk) 00:15, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

I would like to inform you that the information you have put back onto this page is wrong as I quote from the arriva service changes publication from the 2nd of january. "The Airport Terminal will no longer be served." (Service 20 was taken over by Scarlet Band in 2009 and as a result stopped serving the airport (see Scarlet Band service 20 timetable) leaving only service 12 which ceased to serve the airport in january 2012.

If it is wrong, then put it back but please use a source. AutomaticStrikeout 17:32, 15 August 2012 (UTC)

LOL, No problem. :) QuasyBoy (talk) 01:21, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Unless you have any proof that what I removed is true, as your citation http://www.cbssports.com/general/blog/eye-on-baseball/19811637/don-mattingly-calls-matt-kemps-ejection-unacceptable does not support that statement, then stop restoring my edit. I am fixing something that has no source. "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chunkypeanutlove (talk • contribs) 03:34, 19 August 2012 (UTC)

It appears edits I made several days ago to the article have resolved any issues editors might've had. Zepppep (talk) 01:35, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet investigation/Morning277 is pertinent to understanding the discussion. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ) (cont) Join WER 15:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I'm not quite sure what you are saying, it looks to me like none of the alleged socks have participated in the Nicholls AfD. I don't entirely understand how sockpuppet investigations work and I'm somewhat confused by the one you linked, but why has Morning277 not been notified of this situation? AutomaticStrikeout 16:14, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Notification is not required for SPIs, for some very good reasons. It's polite to do so if you don't think they're going to then create more unknown socks before the SPI is done, but it's not required. - Jorgath (talk) ^(contribs) 16:35, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for the explanation. Still, I'm a little bewildered as to what evidence there is to connect Morning277 to this. AutomaticStrikeout 16:39, 20 August 2012 (UTC)

I moved the discussion here since I didn't think it appropriate to continue a discussion on Jimbo Wales talk page. How much detail do you want? Did you read the whole SPI? Do you want insight into technical evidence? I know general techniques and have used them on small networks; Wikimedia CheckUser automates a search for editors using multiple accounts for nefarious purposes.

A quick summary is that the Steve Nicholls article was turned down in AfC when submitted by User:Wenkai31. A few weeks later, User:Morning277 created a similar article using the image uploaded by User:Wenkai31. In both cases, the articles were promotional and lacked independent reliable sources. Although we can never know the details, CheckUser confirmed that the accounts originate from the same PC. Evidence linked 20 or more accounts with User:Morning277. If you want more detail, I'll try to answer any additional questions. This was my first SPI and I followed it pretty closely. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ) (cont) Join WER 19:16, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for explaining. I'm unfamiliar with a lot of the terminology used in SPI's, and Morning277 seemed like a very reputable editor. But, the evidence seems to suggest otherwise. It's of interest to me because I welcomed User:MalcomMarcomb11376 to the website, having no idea that he was a sock (and he, or Morning277, isn't admitting it). It's really almost stunning to see a user with a seemingly solid reputation go down as a sockmaster, but that's that. Thanks again for clarifying this. AutomaticStrikeout 19:24, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

No problem. I was welcoming new editors, too. Looked at Bioengineer-Attorney contribs to perhaps personalize the invite with a comment. I was surprised to see two minor punctuation corrections and then a !vote in the CyberSafe deletion discussion. I read the article and agreed with the nominator; the article was purely promotional. Initially I figured the other Keep !votes were just good faith fly by editors who didn't read the article and check references but something didn't seem right so I checked contribs of Unhumba; the only edit was the Keep vote. Definitely NOT a newcomer's typical first edit. I suspected someone was trying to promote the article over valid deletes but didn't know what to do so I started reading. After an evening of learning about the darker side of Wikipedia, I put together my evidence as I saw it and initiated my first SockPuppet Investigation request.

I agonized for a bit over not assuming good faith. especially after the entry in the SPI by Bioengineer-Attorney.

Quite a warm welcome to a new Wikipedian! How about these facts. I am an atty. I am a BSE in engineering. How about you? In a court this is called a preponderance of the evidence in favor of defendant. All I've learned is that (1) new users are unwelcome, and (2) the protocol is to attack if someone disagrees. Noted. I don't want to wear out the welcome mat!Bioengineer+attorney (talk) 02:51, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

Seeing the SPI Clerk concur and start the SPI was a relief. I was more relieved when I read:

Based on the large attempt to slant consensus and spread scrutiny, and the considerable amount of PR guff, I don't think it's unreasonable to speculate that we have have a paid COI editor here. WilliamH (talk) 14:02, 14 August 2012 (UTC)

I initially didn't suspect User:MalcomMarcomb11376 but added that user account late. I learned the duck test and what people mean by 'ducky.'

Every time someone edits Wikipedia (or just about any other on-line site), their IP address and user agent are sent in the header of every packet. Most sites record both to help defend against hackers and vandals and to track down suspects, if necessary. CALEA requires many Internet companies to record the information. With a subpoena, law enforcement uses the stored info to track down terrorists and pedophiles, among others. From a practical standpoint, IP address+user agent are almost a fingerprint of a PC unless it is a pristine just-out-of-the-box machine. After downloading and installing updates, the user agent changes. To see yours, go to whatsmyuseragent.com.

Hope this isn't too much or annoying. I've needed to vent a bit since I started this. Take care, DocTree (ʞlɐʇ) (cont) Join WER 23:52, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

Once again, thanks for explaining all this. My experience has been that most socks are not honest about their actions. AutomaticStrikeout 23:58, 21 August 2012 (UTC)

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Thanks for going out on a limb and making me your first RfA nomination. I was somewhat surprised when you first asked, but figured "why not?" and semi-blindly agreed to go ahead with almost no expectations. Thanks also for your continued support during the RfA process itself.—Bagumba (talk) 23:40, 27 August 2012 (UTC)

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Hey. Thanks for the invite to WP:TAFI. I'd love to join, but I'm a little confused about the project itself; has it already been accepted by whoever controls the Main Page that this will be included there? Is the job of the members to find articles to nominate? Also, have any criteria been set up for what kind of articles should be nominated? There are tons of articles that could use improvement in various ways, so I'm not sure what these nominations would be based on.

It seems like a great idea, and thanks again for the invitation! Delaywaves • talk 01:28, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

You're certainly welcome. To explain this a little, the Main Page aspect is not official and has not happened yet. The members are the ones who will make the nominations, however the focus will be on the Vital articles. AutomaticStrikeout 01:34, 26 August 2012 (UTC)

Sorry for the delayed response: I will certainly join and will try to contribute as much as I can. You're making quite a meteoric rise as an editor! Congrats on the new project. Delaywaves • talk 03:23, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind words. I believe the first article is schedule to be featured starting September 1st. AutomaticStrikeout 03:26, 30 August 2012 (UTC)