User talk:Ankitbhatt/Archive 3

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It's tough to say whether AfD would be the right course of action. The tone is definitely bad, but the sources seem to pass GNG so I don't think an AFD would result in anything. Wizardman _{Operation Big Bear} 18:23, 15 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

HI Ankit. Nice effort but the article desperately needs WP:RS like something from Times Of India, Hindustan Times, Indian Express, NDTV or even Koimoi and Bollywood Hungama. Right now, both of the references, Everything On Bollywood and Apun Ka Choice, are technically the unreliable sources. The article could get deleted... I've made a few grammatical and other tweaks. Will try to save the article. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 18:42, 19 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello Ankit, I think you've done a very good job with the article, I tried to help as possible, added needed references and even a picture of kareena in her desi avatar from the music video. Tho, I wish we can give it the same treatment as the Dar-e-Disco article...add a an example of the lyrics...I have no knowledge in Hindi or Tamil..So I thought that maybe U can consider adding them :) --Meryam90 (talk) 04:09, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much guys. Will try to do the needful as soon as possible. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 04:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have provided a fair use rational for both pictures and I don't think they're nominated for deletion any more. --Meryam90 (talk) 09:18, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah sorry, I just saw that :D. No hard feelings. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 11:41, 24 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Regards, Scieberking (talk) 15:02, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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The reviews should go by top rated critics first followed by biased / regional reviewers. Also There is no seperate section for positive or negative reviews, where are you seeing that and in which world are you?? Please stop vandalising this article. I have also reported your biased attitude which puts your neutrality into debate, soon you would be barred from editing this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru coolguy (talk • contribs) 09:51, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope you read this..

If you say Rediff or Yahoo is not popular / top reviewer then how are you saying some Bollywood Hungama is a top reviewer? It sounds like some regional site dedicated to hindi movies or the so called bollywood. I also dont see a seperate section for positive reviews, it just have to go by order of reviewers popularity. If you think Yahoo or Rediff is not a top critic, please justify your discussion before undoing my changes. Thank You — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru coolguy (talk • contribs) 09:27, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, firstly you cant add stuff like "see soundtrack". Rather, you have to give a source to it, the same one from the soundtrack article is also perfectly ok. Secondly, The Last Airbender isn't even a Good article, so following it doesn't in any way improve Ra.One. Thirdly, reviews cannot be added here, as in most of the films which have a separate soundtrack article because there will be lots of notable sites giving it a response, that too for a film like Ra.One. So, the page becomes cramped. Hence, we better keep it short. Cheers! Secret of success ^{Talk to me} 09:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It looks good. But plz remove the critical quote and cite a source for the Prague Philharmonic Choir and unlink it as it doesn't have a wikipedian article. Hope its cool! Secret of success ^{Talk to me} 09:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sure thing. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 09:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Voting for WikiProject Film's October 2011 project coordinator election has started. We are aiming to select five coordinators to serve for the next year; please take a moment from editing to vote here by October 29! Erik (talk | contribs) 11:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, I just nominated File:Khan promotes Ra One.jpg under F4 because it does not include links to the sources used. Next time you make a collation please include such links as they are required by licenses. In this case however I nominated two of the images used under F11 (no evidence of permission) because the permission claim used was clearly invalid, so it probably not worth fixing as the image would be deleted anyway. Yoenit (talk) 19:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There we go. Here's a quote from an interview of SRK himself:

MediaNama: Would you consider releasing only digital prints/distribution for the movie to theatres, because you – at this point in time – have the reach and the power to end the analog piracy situation by going all digital?

Shah Rukh Khan: We have, actually. My distributors got around 3500 prints out of which 50-60% are digital. If we get a release partnership in China, we’re releasing 1000 digital prints there. China is a small market for an Indian film. If I try to make 1000 prints, multiplied by Rs 75,000 is a lot of money. Digitally, you just make Rs 75,000 rupee one print digitally, and put it all across. We’re doing that in Russia, with about 75 prints. We make 5 prints and put the rest digitally. It’s an amazing, amazing money saving thing. Second, by virtue of 600 theatres having 3D, 450 have to be digital, because we’re not doing the analog 3D. The future is going to be digital, and piracy stops. It’s encoded, can’t be cracked and you beam it out.

Source

Hope that helps. Scieberking (talk) 15:26, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot! AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 15:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Hey wait, where I have to answer first. I am not finding any place to do so. help me and thanks for your support. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 17:38, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks alot. I did, but guess will need few more votes. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 17:48, 17 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. I need your opinion here. Thanks in advance. Scieberking (talk) 09:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You have not completed step #12 required to nominate your self for admin. See WP:RFA/NOM. Monty₈₄₅ 18:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, someone else has done it. Monty₈₄₅ 18:46, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankitbhatt, I'd just like to recommend that you withdraw your RfA. I doubt that it will pass, and there would seem to be enough suggestions as to how you can improve for next time. Ajraddatz (Talk) 00:55, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm afraid I've already closed it. It was running at 13% support, and opposes were moving into pile-on territory, so this was done mostly in the interest of not "beating you up" with endless repetition of the same opposition reasons. There seemed to be a general feeling that while you are an excellent contributor of content and undeniably an asset to this project, you lack the experience the community expects from administrative candidates. If you are still interested in pursuing adminship, I would suggest you spend a lot more time actively engaging in anti-vandal work, deletion discussions, and new page patrol/speedy deletion. If that doesn't interest you, adminship is probably not for you. There's nothing wrong with that, we need good content editors like you more than we need another mop. Beeblebrox (talk) 01:23, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry about your RFA, that's obviously not the outcome you were hoping. You shouldn't think of it as "they opposed me", more of a case of "they weren't willing to support me yet". I'm sure it'll be a pleasure for not just me but everyone else to support you once you have that administrative experience under your belt. WilliamH (talk) 04:13, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am wondering when the voting procedure started. Anyways its sad Ankit, its time for you to put up you shoes and work on the sector for which you was opposed. Better better better luck next time. Regards! -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 10:59, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you so much. Yes, I don't have a problem with failed RFA. As I had stated, I have considerable weaknesses that I was working on. I agree I was rather heart-broken and put-off from Wikipedia the last time my RFA failed, but anyways, I'm over that now. I'll take this as another learning experience. Cheers! AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 11:52, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I wanted to second other editors' thoughts and say that I look forward to supporting you in the future should you acquire more work on the project pages. Best, Moogwrench (talk) 18:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you all so much about your support. I have been thinking about what Beeblebrox said. Actually, while I am interested in pursuing anti-vandalism, I doubt I could sustain any momentum in it as I find it a little tedious. Perhaps a few more months will help me de-clutter my thoughts and think better about any future adminship. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 12:25, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Even though we may have had our differences in the past, I would just like to commend the work and time you, User:Meryam90 and User:Karthikndr have put into making Ra.One the article it is today. Keep up the good work!!! (P.S. Ra.One is releasing next week. How excited are you? :)) -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 04:11, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have long forgotten about our tiff bud. It's just that I'm swamped in real life and that's the reason why my edits have also reduced. I am desperately trying my best to watch Ra.One in theatres when it releases. Let me know your opinion after you have seen it. :) -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 01:06, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. You should upload 30-second sample from "Criminal" instead of the whole song to prevent it from getting deleted. Watch this one out for licensing and other details. Scieberking (talk) 16:44, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit, I must bring to your notice, multiple copyright violations in files uploaded by you. For the record, if a source mentions no copyright information, it is assumed to be copyrighted, and not assumed to be in the Public domain. I really appreciate your efforts in the Ra.One article; its looking really great! (Except for the copyvio files though ;) ). I'll list the problematic files here: File:SRK Arjun Ra One.jpg, File:RaOne 23 cam.jpg, File:RaOneCriminal.ogg and File:RA One VFX before after.jpg. Please read the Image use policy on user created images before uploading. Thank you. Lynch7 07:35, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I haven't tagged it yet, just letting you know before it gets into trouble. Read Wikipedia:Copyrights#Image_guidelines. If it specifies no copyright status, it does not mean that it is in the Public domain. They must be explicitly licensed under a free license or placed in the public domain for it to be eligible for upload. Lynch7 11:45, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is "Ra One - Response section". Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guru coolguy (talk • contribs) 10:52, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Ra.One. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Please be particularly aware, Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states:

1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. Binksternet (talk) 17:20, 26 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, do not attack other editors as you've done a couple times on the WP:DRN discussion on Ra. One. Even if the other editor crosses the line, please don't follow them and focus on the edits, not the editor. If it happens, ask the other editor to stop (nicely) through a post on their talk page (you can use the uw-npa1 template or leave them a more personal note). You can also ask them to edit their comment or to strike-out parts. If it's really bad, you can remove the post yourself, but I would suggest asking someone uninvolved to do that as you removing an attack directed at you usually inflames things. If it continues, you can request help on the WP:WQA board. Be warned that if you're also over the line you can end up blocked as well. It's best to remain cool. Wikipedia has options out there to help with disputes when things get difficult. Ravensfire (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, we would like to remind you not to attack other editors, as you did on WP:DRN#Ra One - Response section. Please comment on the contributions and not the contributors. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. You are welcome to rephrase your comment as a civil criticism of the article. This post is not acceptable. WP:AGF and civility are core principles that you are violating. Ravensfire (talk) 19:38, 27 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ankitbhatt. This message is being sent to inform you that there currently is a discussion at Wikipedia:Wikiquette assistance regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The discussion is about the topic WP:DRN#Ra One - Response section. Thank you. Ravensfire (talk) 15:03, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit, where are you from past few days. Ra.One requires your contribution. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It appears they may have quit, see I quit. Monty₈₄₅ 18:32, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh freak. Sad! Will miss you and your contributions. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 19:17, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

We need you back, man... c'mon! Scieberking (talk) 22:20, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hope you review our request's and come back! All the best, have a beautiful life. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 15:13, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ankitbhatt, I put off writing this for a couple of days, hoping you would reconsider your decision. I'd then be able to have a discussion with you about this. Unfortunately, that didn't happen. I'm quite sorry things turned out as they did - my intentions were (to me) noble but the results were catastrophic. I'm hoping you'll reconsider your decision and return.

My intention with the WQA post was to "shock" you (and perhaps some others) a bit and get everyone on the DRN topic to focus on the disputes and stop the personal attacks that were going on. I wasn't ignoring your views or blowing you off, but trying to work through the disputes one at a time. Putting more subsections to address the various topics would have, I think, helped organize it a bit more. I was seeing in your posts quite a few comments directed towards editors that were fairly hostile and derogatory. I'd left a couple of posts here, hoping that would get you to alter your style a bit. I totally understand working with difficult editors, believe me. I've managed to irritate some people enough to get mentioned in various blogs posts before. I've always tried to post in a (fairly) calm manner though. Not saying I've succeeded, but I try. But when I've been called out for my posts, I've taken a deep breath, and adjusted. That's what I was hoping you'd do. The WQA was a continuation of that, hoping something more formal would get you to refocus a bit.

As others have noted, you're a darn good editor that is needed here. I hope you'll return. Ravensfire (talk) 15:06, 31 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit,welcome back to Wikipedia. Nice to see you again. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:26, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It's glad to see ya back in action, Ankit! Hope you and Karthik clean and improve the Ra.One and make it a GA or FA soon. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 18:34, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nice to see you my friend, however you must consider Ra.One article into consideration. As far as the editor or vandaliiser Gurucoolguy is concerned, he is away from the article. I also want a small help to update the plot, you may concern massaging me the plot, so atleast I may put it up. But I sincerely want you to return you to Ra.One article, please please please. I also give my heartly request to Scieberking also to return contributing to the article. I wanna share all your people help in Wikiconference. Welcome back again, Happy editing!! -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:37, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I can't pull you out from your wish. No prob's. I know your work, and even when I saw Ravensfire comment, I had taught the same to quit working in that article. With no other regular contributors, had to stay there. Will like to work with you in List of highest-grossing Bollywood films. I again request you to complete the plot please. Atleast you can message me the plot, so as i put it up. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:49, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I just said I wont mind helping you out in the list article. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:59, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Even i want Guru to be blocked(he deserves nothing more than that), but as of now we can't do anything as he is not present in the project. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 19:05, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll be pompous here and say I knew U'd come back! Welcome back! *hugs* So glad U're back now :D --Meryam90 (talk) 20:18, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the Plot friend. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:16, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit, we can't have such a long plot section. I have already discussed this here. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:56, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. Welcome back... again! I really think you're such a valuable editor and a nice fella, so I'd not only voted for your RfA, but also objected against the WQA. I've already done my part on the list with all the latest additions, including those related to Ra.One. LOL, I'm just 22 and a web entrepreneur. To be very honest, I don't like Wikipedia very much. Hope to be an expert contributor at Encyclopædia Britannica some day, though I'm kinda a fickle guy and won't be able to continue with that for long. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 19:20, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Because everyone, every feckin' IP can screw it all up whenever they want. There's far too much bias and bullshit behind it all. I can write a 2,000 words essay and win an award for my effort, LOL. People would die to get into that institute ... really? Actually, dying is better than being nailed for four years by terribly deadening, deadeningly hypocritical and hypocritically highbrow teachers. Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone! You can always hook up with some decent chicks, though ;) Honestly I hate the entire Headingley area too. Scieberking (talk) 10:42, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Fixed. Fæ is a nice fella. He and I share a good rapport. Scieberking (talk) 14:16, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, James SLMN screwed it by restoring 1 to 10 format so Fæ had just added the copyvio tag. More details here. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess things are solved now. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 15:05, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

i am not a regular editor of wikipedia..but i like to read news about bollywood films..here in cuba i do not have full acess to all the sites, so i only can use wikipedia... i want to make ur attention on the artile of list of highest grossing bollywood films....few months ago ,this article was complete and well written,,now it has plenty of deficiencies...a lot of films are missing in the table.......plz make it complete if u can..thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cute754 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Where to discuss the issue? In Talkpage? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:36, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are only at the interval?!? If that is so, you are gonna have to shorten it. The plot is already too long at 915 words. Should be 400-700 words, there is even a tag on it already. I have not read it all because I have not seen the film yet. BollyJeff || talk 13:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You could finish it in a sandbox and then transfer it live when it's ready, instead of doing it wrong and taking flack from others. Do you know how to create your own sandbox? BollyJeff || talk 13:18, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I don't care much about it, but 173 crore is WP:OR, and according to WP:V, 170 crore must be used. Scieberking (talk) 13:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's plain original research which Wikipedia vehemently discourages. You must find a reliable source that states 173 crore. And of course, third-party data is preferable, so BOI's latest update, i.e. 98.50 crore nett, should be used. Anyways, I just made a suggestion. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 13:13, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yeah! Here's what I wrote on Karthik's page: "Whenever I try to watch any contemporary Indian movie, I just keep pointing out the dips here and there. I personally like Anurag's work but there's just too much influence of the Movie Brat generation which kinda makes it besides the point. Pretty much explains why Pather Panchali and Kaagaz Ke Phool, and not Sholay, are world cinema classics. One interesting fact: Satyajit Ray wrote his 1967 The Alien, a groundbreaking and highly original script from which Steven Spielberg's 1982 E.T heavily borrows. Years later, Rakesh Roshan and company flatly plagiarized and made a crap of a movie called Koi... Mil Gaya. LOL, see the connection?... Without a shadow of a doubt... The most influential guy from Indian cinema... even the greatest Hollywood directors cite him as an influence." Your mom talked to Ray Dada over phone, huh? My grandpa Brando actually came to India as his guest, LOL.

Well, I personally hate contemporary Bollywood films. I like the classic era, though, and Guru Dutt and Ray are two of my favorites. Regarding Ra.One, it's gonna be a "hit" in the overseas and "above average" in India as far as I see things and from what BOI predicts. I'm not a fan of any of the Khans, but Aamir is obviously the better of the three. Scieberking (talk) 14:55, 4 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit, regarding Enthiran budget, even though the exact amount is not available, it's way ahead of Ra.One. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey thanks for your info. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit, firstly "Indic text" is necessary (check out here), and secondly: INRConvert is mandatory (as per Template:INRConvert). Regards and Thanks. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:30, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. I think you can make Analysis section more balanced and unbiased by adding these two clear facts:

• Distributors who bought the distribution rights Eros for some circuits, for instance C.P. Berar, are losing money. More than 70% of the small screens are too. (Also, the film was discontinued from Monday onwards at few B and C class centers)

• Major trade analysts Komal Nahta and Amod Mehra have both stated that the film is a success on box office, but not a considerable hit. On the other hand, BOI has declared Ra.One (Hindi) a hit.

There have been far too many sources including those from TOI, HT, Koimoi and BOI. I hope my suggestions don't make you mad at me, because I'm just trying to help things out :) If you don't carry that in equilibrium, there'll be far too much disruption - adding tags and stuff. Some disruptive editors will try to put it in an even worse light. Thanks. Scieberking (talk) 09:43, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but as I've already mentioned above, even though BOI has declared it a hit in India, two major trade analysts, Komal and Amod, have emphasized on "a success, not hit" rhetoric. Scieberking (talk) 12:46, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello again, Ankit. This link you've provided is a press release by Accord Fintech Private Limited, an information company based in Mumbai, India, and not by Eros, or even anything official. It was distributed by Contify.com, a content aggregation website, and syndicated by Yahoo! Finance. Official releases could be found here or anything from BOI will do. Scieberking (talk) 16:50, 11 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think that you should of waited a bit more time for nominating it for GAN. I would of been glad to review there, but I was at the peer review (I'm pretty strict for WP:INVOLVED). I will also be letting it fly. ~~Ebe123~~ → report ← Contribs 19:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I read about it in the newspapers... ;) Kidding, I saw the ANI noticeboard. Scieberking (talk) 16:40, 13 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I still think it's too soon. It is still in theatres and the Box Office #s are changing every day, etc. What is your hurry? Anyway, good luck. I haven't read it all yet, but it sure looks very complete. BollyJeff || talk 00:24, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have not done any reviews myself, but I have gotten three articles to be promoted. From what I understand, it is not length so much that matters, but that what is there is good. There are 6 GA criteria that must be met (see note on #3 about length), and the GAN should grade on these, not just say FAIL on one of them as you have done. Many reviewer use a certain format with plus s and minus signs. Here is a failure and here is a pass example. Also, you can look at my other GAs which passed, Sholay and Dhoom 2. I hope this helps. BollyJeff || talk 13:39, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I didn't mean that you should have passed it. Just that there are ways to make it more clear what the editor needs to do to fix it. Also, when doing a review, you can always ask for a second opinion. Maybe I will try one soon. BollyJeff || talk 16:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I did one today. I didn't use the criteria template either, but only because it was so bad. Check it out here. I think you would agree on this, right? BollyJeff || talk 17:33, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I am not going to read all of that, but it looks pretty complete. Some minor things: the plot and cast sections usually go near the top, not the bottom. The cast list uses a table against the MOS suggestion. That's very minor considering the overall quality though. BollyJeff || talk 17:59, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ankit, since you are one of the major contributers of the article, I thought of mentioning this to you. The images look a little unbalanced in the article and should be aligned as per MOS for images. Would you try to re-arrange them? Congrats on the article though. PS, where in India are you from? — Legolas ^(talk2me) 11:16, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lol, Ankit, your friend Karthik was faster. See the section in my talk page above yours. I have made some re-arrangement and gave some tips on FA for the article. PS, I'm also a Bengali, stay in Bhubaneswar now. Where in Chennai? I know the city pretty well. :) — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:44, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Haha, ya you are much younger to me but you have done such wonderful works with the article. I came to read the article expecting it to be crappy like most Bollywood film ones are, but was simply astounded. Hey you know, I stayed in AnnaNagar for a week. Ah, I miss Besantnagar beach, Panagal Park, Velacherry. Those were the places I used to frequent. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:50, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure you will be. Here's to raising a glass for that. Keep in mind one thing, always give priority to your real life, rather than Wiki-life. Drama in WP can be too much sometimes. — Legolas ^(talk2me) 12:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, I just wanted to introduce myself and let you know I am glad to be reviewing the article Ra.One you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. It might take sometime since we are already suffering from GAN backlog but be patient and wait for the comments since article is really a long one. ASHU^IND 15:03, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit, thanks for helping out in the article. Btw, U saw the movie??? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:23, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And also, how's the article???? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 18:30, 14 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will need your help again for that after Ra.One. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:54, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for taking the time to review GANs, it's a time-consuming and at times can be a tedious process. It's always good to see new people reviewing articles to help keep the GA process active. For the Friends with Benefits article, I would consider the amount of content covered to be sufficient for meeting the broad requirements. As FAs require comprehensiveness, covering every possible section isn't necessary for GA (although if the information is available and readily accessible, it should be added anyway). Since expansion is possible with the amount of sourcing out there for the film, perhaps a week hold would have been helpful for the nominator(s) to try and expand it further (I usually take into consideration that a nomination has been sitting in the queue for more than a month, so a week hold is usually a courtesy if they're willing to take the time to improve the article further). The article could do with additional details about the production, prose within the accolades section, a home media release section, etc. Additional sourcing will help to flesh the article out. For the Jud Süß article, I would point out that the lead should not be any longer than four paragraphs, so that should be fixed. The production and pre-production sections could have a single heading with subheadings per the MOSFILM guidelines. There's also a few bare references and a citation needed tag, so I would recommend detailing those for the editors to resolve. If you're ever curious about a certain guideline or have a question, feel free to ask another GA reviewer or on the talk page of the main GAN page and you'll usually get a quick response. Reviewing takes time to get a handle on it, so as you do more, it will become easier as you begin to recognize the same issues that occur over and over. Helping to point these issues out can help nominators improve their editing/writing, and in turn, lead to better articles throughout Wikipedia. Hopefully this is helpful, but if you want me to clarify on any of this, please let me know. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 01:49, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Please literally undo every editing done by unknown or untrusted editors to your nominated article till review process is completed. Comment back to review page if you've corrected that problem/issue with Done so that reviewer can be made aware that his/her problem is been solved and he can cross check the same. Failing to place such comments may result in delay of decision. Make sure one of your trusted editor is present there to check your article all the time so that review process can go smooth else your article will be called UNSTABLE and would simply fail. Regards ASHU^IND 17:07, 15 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey the poster looks promotional.-- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:44, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The source you have provided for budget. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:17, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. I think Karthik is right. Some circuits and several single screens have lost money. Even T-Series has lost money on the music. The officials keep flip-flopping over the budget. I'd sent you the links where SRK himself stated it was 150 crore. Now he says 135 crore. Scieberking (talk) 14:00, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:14, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, we'll have to stick with the BOI verdict, i.e. hit. For the record, Komal has said that "it's a success but not a hit". Taran has said it "is a success but not a big grosser". Amod has said "it is neither a hit nor a flop". These are the three leading trade analysts of Bollywood. IBOSNetwork declared the film a flop. Emirates247 went on to say that it has lost to Damadamm. Scieberking (talk) 14:35, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yep, but most trade analysts are counting in the music as well as distributions rights to overall revenue of the movie, so it's safe to say that music rights are relevant. Distribution rights were also a case of overpayment by several distributors who lost money, because they simply paid too much money. I've personally studied the economics of film and video distribution :-) Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:42, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Right. Ra.One's budget should've been kept less. In terms of theatrical business, it didn't recover its costs from all-India markets. It should've been a smash hit, yeah, considering the amount of energy, money and hard work SRK put into the film production. Bodyguard and Ra.One are both masala entertainers. BOI had previously declared that the landing cost of the film is 175 crore, while it made around 113 crore nett in 3 weeks. The same BOI declared Ra.One a hit in India which is simply beyond me. Bodyguard, though also a throwaway movie, was made at a cost of 60 crore, and raked in 227 crore (gross) worldwide (very high, around 275%, ROI). IBOS, too plays even dumber, which I guess due to the "northies-southies" stuff. As a side note, why is Indian public progressively growing against the so-called Khan trinity, who were once considered the darlings of the screen, are now being labeled as old-farts... Is this due to the religion thing? I could be wrong because politics is, sure as shooting, not my territory. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 17:19, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, but we are talking about box office and theatrical collections, right? Before the release, people were still very confident (and even sure) that Ra.One will beat Bodyguard, and maybe 3 Idiots. Agree about the IBOS :D It's all politics, dude. Salman's target audience is mostly illiterate and poor from the rural areas. Whatever crap he produces, the masses are lovin' it, and let's face it, that's the type of entertainment they want. Urban populace and cyberworld should avoid bashing on those poor cinegoers IMHO, and shouldn't call them as "slumdog lallu lovers", which is an exact quote lolz. SRK is still a king in the overseas market, but to be very honest, he's gradually losing it in the homeland. As far as I'm concerned, he should make more smart, clever cinema like Aamir. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 17:46, 17 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, both Don 2 and Dhoom 3, in a broader scenario, won't be such remarkable movies and certainly won't be pushing cinema forward as the medium that creates impact (specifically on a global scale), however I can assure you that Dhoom 3 will be less crappier than Don 2. In any case, Talaash is manifestly going to be a good movie. SRK is hardly moving away from his "typical romantic avatar", with Yash Raj's next lined up for 2012 and all. The more he tries to do that, the more trouble he finds. Let's face it, he's a very limited and overplaying actor in most cases (just like the majority of Bollywood actors in history), with all his external, plastic emotions and bad theatrics. Indian cinema has still not successfully embraced and implemented Stanislavsky System, and all the other technical infrastructures. With that said, campy cinema like Bodyguard and Singham, lamentably, is the current taste of the Indian audience. Nothing we can do about it. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 13:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, of course not, I'm no hater or lover when it comes to Bollywood actors (maybe actresses, though ;). Rather unfortunate that you think that about me. I was just trying to use some wit to make a general commentary (having praised a good performance like Swades). I apologize if I've shown less kindness in my criticisms. I've only liked the recent work of Aamir (countless earlier films, take Mela for example, have been utter crap), regardless of what kind of person he in his personal life. Hrithik is such a good actor, too, who has shown extraordinary improvement and growth (circa 2008). You think that Don 2 will beat the shit out of me...? I'd say you are wrong, but you're welcome to think so. I am not very concerned about Indian cinema, particularly campy, tastelessly commercial cinema like Don 2. You're not very versed about the cinema, kid. I just hope Don 2 beats an equally trashy film like Ready this time, or even 3 Idiots. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:46, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oh Lord! Why do you keep blasting on me and misinterpreting my statements. My allegiance doesn't lie with anyone to start with. Where did I say that I dislike all of Bollywood? I've always said that I dislike mainstream, commercial Bollywood. And let me enlighten you on a point or two. There's a fine line between good and great cinema; exempli gratia Black Swan and Road to Perdition vs. Psycho and Goodfellas. Again, no direct, germane comparisons. I've always maintained VFX is the only saving grace of Ra.One. Regarding James Bond, I've liked Goldfinger, and I think it's a fine piece of cinema. Once more, where did I call "3 Idiots as great cinema"? Regardless, it's still such a nice, refreshing effort and carries a social message. Once again, I didn't call "Dhoom 3 as a great film", but only stated that "Dhoom 3 will be less crappier than Don 2"; which it will certainly be, commercially and critically. Have a good one. Scieberking (talk) 15:49, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Why are you inclined to use hard-hearted language against me. You may be finding it difficult to understand but I'm not "gung-ho" about Dhoom 3 as you put it (I only, repeat only, said that it would be less crappier than Don 2), neither did I state that I'm an Aamir fan. Thanks for all your inventions, which I find quite amusing. Name me one Bollywood movie which carried a similar social message as 3 Idiots to such a wide audience. Majority of contemporary Bollywood films are "old" and "much cliched" by international standards. With regard to your assertion that "Don 2 will exceed Dhoom 3 in all respects", I've heard such feelers so many times before the release of Ra.One, only to be quieten down like a lull later on, though I've always been fair and positive about the movie. Adios. Scieberking (talk) 17:24, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Hi Ankit, I guess you are confused what I have resolved. If you saw my resolving message, it states "No more dead links. Also cleaned all references as per WP:REF." Ebe123 hasn't resolved anything regarding Dead Links. If you see [1], [2] and [3], it will easy for you to distinguish what I had done. It's good that there are no dead link issues now. Regards and Thanks. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:59, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Oops, I m still confused what went wrong. Apologies. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No problem. I guess the review is going on good? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:32, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There's still much to be tweaked, mostly on grammar and diction, for instance "its vs. it's" errors. Thanks. Scieberking (talk) 13:54, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@Karthik: Yes the reviews are going on pretty well. Hopefully it will become a GA soon, though the process is taking too long a time for me to feel comfortable. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 14:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You still need to get grid of the Ra-one villain.jpg image or make a new rationale for this article on its page. Also you need to trim the minor good reviews some more. What are you waiting for? You need help? BollyJeff || talk 01:32, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've asked Karthik about the fair-use rationale, and hopefully he'll be able to solve it soon. Regarding reviews, just give me some time dude. I have to go through that huge reviews section and trim it out na? Takes time. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 03:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey Ankit and Bollyjeff, I guess (doubtfully) have solved the issue if you can review it. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 06:29, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not too familiar with fair use rationales, but it looks satisfactory to me. However, please ask Bollyjeff to give a more informed opinion. AnkitBhatt^{Talk to me!!}_LifEnjoy 08:07, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I do believe that the commercial analysis section is too long. I will also like you to look at my comment in one of your review. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 09:38, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Good work regarding commercial analysis. Regarding Friends With Benefits, you may be right that the subject is not enough covered as we did for Ra.One. Keep up the good work :) -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 12:16, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reduce your Commercial Analysis section and improve your grammatical errors, people are still objecting the GA ASHU^IND 12:04, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The article Ra.One you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Ra.One for comments about the article. Well done! There is a backlog of articles waiting for review, why not help out and review a nominated article yourself? ASHU^IND 18:36, 19 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats! And to think you almost quit. BollyJeff || talk 13:16, 20 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Cheers buddy. BTW, I'm surprised (an ayyo moment) that your best buddy User:Guru coolguy hasn't yet signed your scrapbook, maybe in Tamil language... :P Scieberking (talk) 23:29, 23 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I thought there might be a few, only in a section or two, but to my surprise, there were literally dozens of 'em scattered within the article. Good news; I'm done with it. Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 09:42, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That would be really helpful. Besides that, I think two sections need trimming: "Commercial Analysis" and "Critical Reception". Also, BOI hasn't yet published the worldwide gross, which they should soon. Scieberking (talk) 13:31, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Avatar is a 164 KB article, while Ra.One is only 111 KB. The "Commercial Analysis" section looks rather long-drawn-out, but anyways I can live with that. Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 14:21, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Congrats on the well-deserved GA for Ra.One!!! BTW what did you think about the film? -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 21:00, 24 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

TBH, I was actually quite disappointed with the film. Apart from some good songs and VFX shots, the film had nothing else to offer. -- Bollywood Dreamz ^talk 04:46, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The top 5 highest grossing movies of 2011 are (according to nett gross; as of Nov 22):

1- Bodyguard: 140,95,00,000
2- Ready: 120,90,00,000
3- Ra.One: 114,17,00,000
4- Singham: 97,75,00,000
5- Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara: 89,75,00,000

Hope that helps. Scieberking (talk) 14:41, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Just give me a few more minutes. :) Scieberking (talk) 14:46, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. Bodyguard
2. Ra.One
3. Ready
4. Singham
5. Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara
6. Yamla Pagla Deewana
7. Mere Brother Ki Dulhan
8. Delhi Belly
9. Murder 2
10. Double Dhamaal

Here's the list according to all-India distributor share (not nett gross) amounts. Scieberking (talk) 15:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

1. Bodyguard 140,95,00,000
2. Ra.One 114,17,00,000
3. Ready 120,90,00,000
4. Singham 97,75,00,000
5. Zindagi Na Milegi Dobara 89,75,00,000
6. Yamla Pagla Deewana 54,72,00,000
7. Mere Brother Ki Dulhan 57,25,00,000
8. Delhi Belly 55,00,00,000
9. Murder 2 46,50,00,000
10. Double Dhamaal 45,00,00,000

May need verification. Scieberking (talk) 15:40, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No worries at all. You may want to take a look here. And I must say you're a bright boy who's very determined and skillful. Scieberking (talk) 17:14, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think you're a geek but obviously someone who shines. Have you seen Kubrick's The Shining? Scieberking (talk) 17:23, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah. I recommend you two Nicholson movies; The Shining (film) and One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (film) (I personally prefer the latter). Scieberking (talk) 17:27, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I think sometimes the categorization of movies into genres is useless. They are good movies. Kubrick and Forman are both great directors. Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 18:15, 25 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, Fæ is right in saying that the coloring fails WP:MOS. While I know that the same policy (or guideline) is also applicable to the List of highest-grossing films, and I've informed Fæ about that as well, we've another policy called WP:OSE. ;-) Scieberking (talk) 13:32, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you just put the coloring back in (using the code from the diff I'd left) I don't think he'll revert your edits. Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 13:57, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'd love to, but WP:MOS would be against my argument... :) Scieberking (talk) 14:15, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It may well have another talk page consensus. Scieberking (talk) 14:29, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You may only need to tell Fæ on this section why you think the coloring is important. If a consensus builds in your favor, that would be it! Scieberking (talk) 14:38, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Well, I've worked hard on updating all the information - that in the fairest possible and most neutral way - but then again, you think it reads like a pro-Salman piece. I'm not a fan of any Khan or even Bollywood - Why do I need to tell this, again? :-D Regarding coloring, you can ask fellow editors to simply express their neutral opinions (not necessarily in your favor). That won't be canvassing. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:51, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In the Ra.One article, it says "In case the partnership deal is successful, the film will also release in China with 1000 prints." There is no mention of any such deal before that sentence, then how can you specifically use the word "the"? Wouldn't it be better to rephrase the sentence with something like "A partnership deal to release the film in China with 1000 prints has been talked about"? I'm surprised that the GA reviewer did not come across these sentences! Secret of success ^{Talk to me} 15:04, 26 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nope lol. Of Course, not. Not a fan of ultra-cheesy, mindless comedies. Next Bollywood movie on my watchlist would be Talaash. Scieberking (talk) 18:43, 27 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done, sir! Scieberking (talk) 14:40, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think you speak Tinglish too... :P Scieberking (talk) 17:31, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Don is being chased by the police of eleven countries, and he's in talks with the police of the twelfth country to make them chase him... :P Scieberking (talk) 17:48, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That was Salman's tongue-in-cheek mock on Chota Don in a "brainless comedy"; Partner. Rajpal Yadav is an enjoyable comic actor. Don't you remember? Scieberking (talk) 17:58, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Better than a certain grossly overrated Johnny Lever. Scieberking (talk) 18:04, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Online sites that provide the words to songs are violating copyright by republishing the lyrics without permission. This article explains everything really well. Scieberking (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright. Let me give you an example. Chetan Bhagat's 2 States is a copyrighted piece. If you copy and paste content from the hard copy, and not from any website, that would still be prohibited. For the same reason you won't find song lyrics on any FA or even GA. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:47, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I removed the lyrics was not vandalism, please see WP guidance on copyright. If the song is so old that it is no longer in copyright they could be re-added, but as the article was silent about this I assumed, as a cautionary measure, they should not be there in the first place. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:34, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PS Now I have bothered to check the article and seeing that the 3 composers are still alive the lyrics are most certainly within copyright. The act of vandalism was quoting them at Wikipedia which is Creative Commons license. Furthermore, the words immediately above the "save button" state "Content that violates any copyrights will be deleted." which is exactly what I did. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:51, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

PPS See also WP:COPYOTHERS. Doesn't matter if it is a song lyric either. I have removed from BOTH songs and will conntinue to do unless a) it is out of copyright or b)it is part quoted with an analysis from a referenced third party. If you think my interpretation is too strong then I suggest you take the query elsewhere. I will be reverting and reporting your actions if necessary. Cheers. --Richhoncho (talk) 17:59, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

More relevant policy. Scieberking (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I have checked 5 of those listed and not one of them had a heading Lyrics with a full verse copied out. All had relevant quoted analytical content relating to the quoted lyrics which in a couple of instances was no more than 1 or two lines. This confirms that I was correct to remove the whole quoted lyric. Ankitbhatt might get on better if he did not accuse others of vandalism so readily. --Richhoncho (talk) 19:51, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I shall copy my answer to U M.Richhoncho in here as well:

This is fine if there is actual copyright violation (including all digital samples), but please avoid copyright paranoia and diagnose the signs in yourself - "There is no such thing as "Fair Use," only "No Use". When any room for doubt exists in the copyright status or acceptable use of a particular article, those suffering from copyright paranoia will become overwhelmed with a self delusional fear of ill-defined, future consequences and lash out in self defense by deleting the material without first engaging in discussion." :-) Thank you. :D

furthermore, please check Wikipedia:Lyrics and poetry and I quote: Quotations of the work within the analytical framework can fall into the fair use provisions within US copyright law (and to a lesser extent fair dealing and related concepts within other jurisdictions). Such quotations can be done through inline text, block quotes, or (in the case of a song) inclusion of an image showing part of the sheet music. However, how much of a song you can quote is open to interpretation, but you should avoid copyright paranoia.

Would that be all? --Meryam90 (talk) 21:53, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And as I asked on yout talkpage, "Where was the analytical framework to support the quoting of the lyrics? Not there. So the rest of your quoting above is irrelevant."

More than happy to keep all further comments on this page, but I think we should be finished now. --Richhoncho (talk) 22:09, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

and I shall answer you here:

Because the song uses the blend of different languages at once in a Bollywood song. Basically, Hindi and south Indian, which created a trend at the time, DNA even wrote an article about it [4]. The Lyrics were added as a demonstration to some of the Rap verse Indian audience weren't familiar with as well as the importance of the aspect stated above. Even the title of the song proved to be a wide discussion topic at the time of its release.

dude, no offense but this is a typical case of copyright paranoia. Cheers ;)

Btw, the least you could have done is open a discussion topic about it, not just barge into the article and delete the section all together...--Meryam90 (talk) 22:16, 28 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you think I am outnumbered you had better read very carely the link that Scieberking provided above.

I have now been accused of vandalism, paranoia and being stuck up, but I can still count. Do you actually expect to brow beat me into a agreeing with you? Do you really expect me to revert my correct edit when even the person you asked for advice has supported me with a link to policy? I also note that neither you, nor your other friend, Meryam90, have been able to answer my very simple question "where was the analytical content to support the inclusion of the lyrics?" If you actually understood this question, then we might easily have reached agreement, but as you are either unwilling or unable to understand this simple WP policy... there is really no purpose to any ongoing discussion. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:24, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a bunch mate. Nice to know that I was of any help. Scieberking (talk) 14:59, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankitbhatt. Please don't continue making edits such as this, where you appear to attempt to win a content dispute by accusing your opponent of misbehavior. As you were told in response to your comment on the ANI thread about Fae, there is no known sockpuppetry in this situation, and shouting loudly on unrelated talk pages about how Fae cannot have a say in a content dispute because of an unsupported, unrelated accusation is useless at best and purposely causing trouble at worst. Discussion of how "shocking" you find Fae or his behavior may belong on ANI, if you can provide any actual evidence for sockpuppetry, but it doesn't belong on article talk pages, and certainly not in heated, accusatory language. Please consider removing or refactoring your comment(s) related to Fae on Talk:List of highest-grossing Bollywood films, as continuing accusations without evidence can be considered disruptive personal attacks. A fluffernutter is a sandwich! (talk) 13:39, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I guess you can add the coloring now. There's 3:2 consensus to keep the coloring. And please be more patient while dealing with Fæ and other administrations; a humble request from Scieberg... :) I can assure you that he's a very nice guy. Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 23:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LOL. The whole abominable situation is over now. Details on Karthik's talk page and Ra.One page history. The "Ash" episode has nothing to do with the coloring discussion, right? Regards, Scieberking (talk) 14:02, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think he would. You've got consensus to keep coloring. Scieberking (talk) 14:49, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If someone like you calls me an idiot, or want my ass kicked, that'd be okay with me, because I know you're a damn good editor and a friend. On the other hand, people like Guru cool and Ashermadan come here mostly for trolling and causing general disruption. And he ain't no GA reviewer, LOL. He doesn't even know how to sign his posts. Scieberking (talk) 14:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

LOL @ Vidya (but she had a long, alleged reputation of sleeping around with filmmakers, hadn't she?). ASHU was our reviewer, not that Ashermadan. I really appreciate ASHU's work and respect him a great deal, but as far as Ashermadan, 80% of his edits are against guidelines and consensus, thus disruptive. Then, there is another guy called Ashislove (totally unrelated to all this).. talk about similar names, huh! Scieberking (talk) 15:12, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That's why I said "alleged". A friend of mine, who's kind of an insider and has worked in the film editing team of a major Bollywood director, had told me that. Anyways, I don't care about her dirty looks. Even the greatest actors in the history of cinema made movies that were labeled as semi-porn flicks. Scieberking (talk) 15:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I hope so, but of course that doesn't matter. You'll be surprised to know that even the best actors and actresses in cinema were a product of casting couch... Scieberking (talk) 17:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey! Try these two: 1 and 2. It's only stamp tool, and sometimes magic tool too, on photoshop. Hope that helps. Scieberking (talk) 13:44, 2 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Will need your help at the Peer review, tough we had planned to put in hold, whats wrong in trying? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 11:03, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did you went thru the review? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:06, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you, I taught I could help Wiki, hence i did :) -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:29, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That made me worried tough many editors came in support for me. No worries you have not donated, be proud that you contribute to it online. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:38, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Me confused, Ra.One didn't do well, nor did it gained positive critic my common people in Mumbai, Ra.Two if happens, surely will bombard at the box office. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 13:53, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I appreciate what SRK is now, but hate his marketing skills. More then acting, he sells the film. I like Salman as a person (tough aggressive sometimes), his bldg is next to my college while SRK's Mannat is still 5 mins away. But as of Don 2, even I m excited because the film is directed by Farhan Akhtar, one of my fav film director. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:04, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, if you're in Mumbai, expecially in Bandra where my college is, you will come to know what Bollywood people are. And ya, Arjun Rampal stays in opposite bldg to my college, and I have met him too:). I'm neither a fan of any of Khan, i am a big fan of Dhanush and Rajinikanth. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:22, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

As simple, "B" for Bandra, "B" for Bollywood. One thing I like about SRK is his Vanity van, awesome. -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:32, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I will get you a better pic, till then search it here, I m very much attached to his vanity van wiper. I have seen Helen, Salman Khan, Arjun Rampal, Amrita Arora, Rahul Roy, Rannvijay, and many more. And ya, I really loved "Why This Kolaveri Di", was also working on the article. I had to ask you but forgot, do you liked it? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 14:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Guess you were never been dumped by a girl..lol. So which article are you working on now? -- Karthik Nadar (talk) 15:05, 7 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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X.One ^SOS 15:27, 9 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I've commented and removed it (without screwing up any formatting), as there's already wide talk page consensus. To be honest, I was going to remove it right after Martin's suggestion, but I was afraid to be called a "Pro-Amitabh", "Pro-Salman" or "Anti-SRK" :) Cheers. Scieberking (talk) 10:49, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yeah, 6:0. You rock, man! The release date is now drawing close; how desperate are you about Don 2? Any predictions about its lifetime gross? :P Scieberking (talk) 14:51, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should do better than Ra.One in India. Should net at least more than Ready, maybe 125 crore. Scieberking (talk) 20:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hey dude, First Thx for backing me up on the Ra.One gross issue, I wouldn't of cared less abt how much the film would have grossed (did I mention that I HATED it?!!) but it was embarrassing seeing the figures change every other day esp with the peer review going on and all that... Anyway, I think you should move your ars to the RNBDJ article, I've been working on it for the past couple of days and it looks quit good now...I think That will be my Next GA project...if it isn't Don 2 :P --Meryam90 (talk) 17:13, 10 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article List of most expensive Indian films is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Could you kindly express your opinion here? Thanks. X.One ^SOS 09:10, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Could you put forward your thoughts on this? X.One ^SOS 13:53, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Ankit. I have removed a part of your comments on the basis of WP:BEANS. Please refer to the advice for further issues. X.One ^SOS 15:29, 11 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Scieberking (talk) 13:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ra.One is becoming such a headache, God damn it! I think I am done with it...The whole gross issue was the last drop. and btw, who's the **** is that Seeta mayya? Jeez man, she's just...Arg (btw, I may sound angry but I am not, I just hate that Ra.One is becoming such a pain, it was so fun working on it :S)

Huh! btw, get ready to face the same exact problem with Don2 since it's releasing in Tam/Tel versions as well...--Meryam90 (talk) 14:09, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

jesus christ man, what's wrong with this seeta mayya person? holy heck. an i agree with meryam, we'll have the same problem with don2. ill comment and ask her to stop the personal attacks i guess. though she's going to go on and on and is quite rude. can't we just block her? Asher Madan 15:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ashermadan (talk • contribs)

Absolutely agree about the Seeta mayya user - absolutely beyond the pale. I saw that Ebe123 left a warning on their page. If they post anything like that again (or IP appears and leaves similar rants), don't hesitate, post it on WP:WQA. They've been warned, you were absolutely justified in removing the posts and if they continue, kick it over to WQA and let them handle it. Good job staying cool, btw. I have to admit, I was laughing at some of the rants (probably not the desired impact). Also, I've glanced at the discussion on Ra. One, but haven't had enough time to really form a solid opinion. Hope to do so tonight. Ravensfire (talk) 20:53, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

So please stop removing comments, as it's pretty bad, and you seem to be biting users. We can't silence others. Also, your civility on the talk page is getting pretty disruptive. ~~Ebe123~~ → report on my contribs. 23:57, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Any chance of you retiring again? BollyJeff || talk 13:22, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You are making rude comments to various people on just about every page that you touch. It is getting very tiring reading them. You always seem to have an answer to everything, and always want to have the last word. Sometimes it is wise to just let things go. BollyJeff || talk 13:30, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Talk:List of highest-grossing Bollywood films and other places as well. And this is exactly what I mean; you are gonna come after me now instead of trying to just consider your own actions. I am not the only editor telling you this, so try to listen. There is no need to reply to this message; I don't want to continue this line of discussion anymore. However, knowing you I think you will keep going. How about this? I dare you to not respond. BollyJeff || talk 13:42, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Okay just to clarify my position on Seeta Mayya. They were totally over-the-top bad, and everyone realizes it. I find it best to ignore those types and they will eventually go away. Argue with them and it just gets worse. Ever heard the expression feeding the trolls? No one really wants you to quit, just to calm down. There is a saying that goes something like this: Please grant me the power to change what I can, the serenity to accept what I cannot, and the wisdom to know the difference. BollyJeff || talk 14:20, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I really hope you reconsider your decision. Indian cinema needs a good editor like yourself. It's not that anybody dislikes you here. We all want you around. Scieberking (talk) 14:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Scieberking, I am smart enough to decipher the truth. When guru coolguy abused me and others, nothing happened to him. When Seeta Mayya made abusive and unnecessary comments, nothing happened to her. But both times, unfailingly, I was punished, humiliated and made to feel like an idiot. I don't like bias and humiliation, and I'm sure neither do you. Give me one good reason why I should come back to Wikipedia even after so much of hateful feelings against me? AnkitBhatt^WDF 14:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

First, I'd like to offer an apology if I've offended you in any way, ever. Second, everyone knows such editors are ne'er-do-well trolls. Third, everyone admits that you're a good editor and respects you for it. Fourth, Indian cinema can't afford to lose a quality editor. Don't be tensed, be cool and think over. Scieberking (talk) 14:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

No Scieberking, that isn't it. If they are trolls, I guess they are still editors. Right? So they can be blocked. But they were not. Its simple: others have announced their verdict against me, and I'm fine with that. If Wikipedia doesn't want me here, then I can live with that. AnkitBhatt^WDF 14:56, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Although I'm sorry that you felt like you needed to request it, I have indefinitely blocked your account. Since it is self-requested block (and duly noted as this in your block log), it'll be no trouble for you to have the block lifted when you are ready to resume. Just put {{unblock | reason=your reason here ~~~~}} here (of course, replacing "your reason here" with a simple explanation, such as that you are ready to return from your self-requested break), and an admin should unblock you. I'll do it myself if I happen to be the first to notice the request.

If you are thinking about getting a clean start (some contributors do), please be aware that if you return to the same editing areas it's a good idea to identify yourself to avoid being mistaken for a "sockpuppet." The clean start page describes best practices there.

I disagree with your self-assessment, of course, that you haven't done anything useful with articles. While I don't know your work well, I know you did a good job here. But it wouldn't be appropriate for me to try to change your mind, and if a break will give you the opportunity to come back later under less stress, then it may be the best thing for you. I trust you know what you need better than I do. :) --Moonriddengirl ^(talk) 14:32, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. But I don't really intend on returning at all. I actually wished I could be prevented entirely on editing; that way, I would have no chance of coming back here. But still, I'll try my best not to be back to Wikipedia. AnkitBhatt^WDF 14:36, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]