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Hi DeltaQuad, I'm ready for a poop patrol run whenever you are. Also I was wondering whether you could tweak the code to include portal and template space when it runs? Currently it just covers mainspace, but provided the safe page list could accept portal:page name I think this would be a worthwhile extension. Ta, ϢereSpielChequers 13:55, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

I haven't looked at the code in a good while, but i'll see if I can adjust that for you. And hopefully I can get sometime, and figure out how to get this going on WMF Labs. Anyway, the bot has been started. -- DQ on the road (ʞlɐʇ) 22:17, 28 March 2012 (UTC)

A long needed update on this. I have just modified the code to scan the namespaces listed above, but I can't commit the code yet. I would like to test this out to make sure it works, how close are you to a new run? Also I think I have found a way on toolserver that i've been missing forever on how to run this on a weekly basis. Is this something you still want? Labs is still a consideration, but I have to do some more research to understand it. -- DQ on the road (ʞlɐʇ) 15:23, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I've already done the last one so could handle a test on the revised code whenever you are ready. As for having it run weekly that would suit me. I know the toolserver is creaking and overloaded. If it is too heavy on the tool server I could easily restructure it into four runs so that most of the queries were only rerun once in four weeks and only sensitive ones like pubic, and ones like staring where there are still hundreds of typos to find were still run weekly. ϢereSpielChequers 16:03, 28 September 2012 (UTC)

Hi DQ, if you are around I'd be OK with just a run on the existing code if you are busy. Thanks ϢereSpielChequers 23:36, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for that, ready for another if that's OK with you. ϢereSpielChequers 22:52, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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I just got a WP:UTRS request from an innocent user who was caught in this rangeblock. Since it's such a large range, could you reconsider? If there is a typical behavioral pattern, an edit filter may be more appropriate, and has the advantage of being suitable for an indefinite block on a certain pattern. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 07:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hello KoH, sometimes CU blocks do have to be rather large (and hit a whack of collateral in the process). You will see large rangeblocks, where we will get several appeals from the range. If they are in a very short time frame, then it's probably a block that needs to be reconsidered. If it's one user though, it's one user who we'll have to create an account for. That being said I did look back, and i'm going to reduce it to a /23 which should be able to catch the target I would like to stop. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:36, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, he is no longer in that range. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 05:25, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

You may like to have a look at this talk with Fisher Queen from my TP realised in August 2012, for more info on TremoloKid and Ghuzz. (Sure, they stopped all activity since I sent them to SPI.) All the best. --E4024 (talk) 17:49, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I assume this is the SPI you are referring to? Sorry I haven't gotten back to you, sometimes I just patrol cases quickly to help clerks, and why i commented is because we won't see what you see. One person thinks it's obvious, i've looked, and had to ask for diffs. So unless you get someone who knows the sockpuppet, it's really hard to go digging for what you think is the connection, not to mention, adds time when trying to handle our backlog. Sadly, we can't just read minds. But that's why I stopped by the case and commented. As for the actual case, I have left my comments on the case. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hola Delta, I made a Quick Checkuser request for the user Inspectortr (redlink, like most of this sort of "special" users) and the various IPs it has used at the page Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and the TP of the same article. As this is the first time I used that application please check for me, whenever you have time, I see you are slow these days, if I have made it correctly. Muchas gracias de antemano y saludos cordiales... --E4024 (talk) 12:53, 30 October 2012 (UTC) P.D. This user is also a friend, I guess, of whom you may imagine...

I have looked over the case at hand and do find the IP editing problematic. Though as I see it is not a purposeful attempt to evade the community as it's obvious it is him. In the meantime, I have stopped by his talkpage and left him a message. He will be looking at blocks if I see it continue. If you think this guy is a sock of /someone/ *eyes the title of the thread*, then you will need to submit an SPI for that as I don't like to make peoples arguments for them when it comes to socking. Regarding the quick SPI, CUs will not comment on IPs to accounts in that manner per the Privacy policy prohibiting us doing so in most cases. (that's only one of two policies governing the use of CU tools) Y su bienvenida. Voy a ayudar de cualquier manera que pueda. (excusa si esto es impropio españoles, sólo soy ES-1) -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 23:39, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

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 Replied. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:37, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey all :).

We're (very shortly) closing down this development cycle for Page Curation. It's genuinely been a pleasure to talk with you all and build software that is so close to my own heart, and also so effective. The current backlog is 9 days, and I've never seen it that low before.

However! Closing up shop does not mean not making any improvements. First-off, this is your last chance to give us a poke about unresolved bugs or report new ones on the talkpage. If something's going wrong, we want to know about it :). Second, we'll hopefully be taking another pass over the software next year. If you've got ideas for features Page Curation doesn't currently have, stick them here.

Again, it's been an honour. Thanks :). Okeyes (WMF) (talk) 11:59, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I need just a little more information from you at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/TremoloKid before I can close the case.—Kww(talk) 18:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

The report was archived before the question was answered: it's now at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/TremoloKid/Archive.—Kww(talk) 14:56, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

With TremoloKid, there were not a ton of edits to go by, but as I remember it, he had traveled to a few different countries, and Ghuzz (without confirming the edit location) stuck to one country and didn't edit outside of it. Also these two peoples locations to have a bit of distance between them (country wise) but not an insane amount. I hope this answers your questions. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 14:31, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Greetings DeltaQuad: A question was raised [1] which you are well able to ensure a best answer is given. For me, a couple additional questions have developed; particularly: Is there any sub-page where your bot maintains an additional log of it's reports? More specifically to identify locations that may require oversight suppression. Additionally, is there any way to prevent the need to hide so many consecutive revisions when circumstances like today's exist? Thank you for considering these as well. Best regards - 76Strat ^String da _Broke da (talk) 09:40, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

There is a subpage where users may wait till they have edited. If they don't have any edits, or the report was generated before they edited, it will not be logged on wiki. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 14:33, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

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Just got a WP:UTRS request about this. I think the problem is that Digiweb is not only a web host, but also a household broadband provider. Could you reduce to it a narrower range or make it anon-only? -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 04:11, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

You are right, it doesn't just provide web hosting services. I have just removed the block at this point. I did find the original block reason and it appears that the range was subject to crosswiki abuse, possibly crosswiki spam, though I can't be certain that was the case. I'll just keep an eye on it for now. If you could please though in the future pass along the number of the UTRS appeal, so I can take a look at the appeal itself, I would appreciate that. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 05:01, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

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[2] Removal of see also's which pertain to Pakistan and adds ones which pertain to India. [3] Nangparbat sock. Goodbye. Darkness Shines (talk) 09:29, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Ok, i'll give you the fact that it's a good hunch, still doesn't change my comments. It still needs a second opinion and I would not use that single edit by itself as enough evidence to block, and therefore tags and reverts are still not appropriate. The tag without review is in cases where the user is clearly (like a revert to an exact revision of a sock is a possible example) a sock is the only appropriate time, as long as your paperwork documenting it is following. Here, neither your paperwork followed (with a CU, or an admin or something since you can't file an SPI) nor did you have enough evidence. Nice to know you are also stalking the clarification page while you've apparently retired, and came back just to tell me this. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 09:39, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Which is why I posted to Elockids talk page on the matter. I logged in to ask you a question and saw your statement. The question no longer matters as you already gave your opinion. Darkness Shines (talk) 09:45, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I still fail to see how "I'll keep an eye on it." justifies tagging it. It's one suspicious edit. You were right in going to Elockid's talkpage, but suspected sock tags are for when the sock is blocked and we don't know for sure if it is a sock (like CU can't return results. Because now if it's not a sock, you have "bitten" the user, as they say. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 10:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

Per your request, I've made a case on the SPI on user:Logical 1 here: [[4]]. Thank you. Dominus Vobisdu (talk) 12:35, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

I have reopened the CU request for you. -- DQ on the road (ʞlɐʇ) 15:17, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

• Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Bunzil

Hey there DeltaQuad, thanks very much for your eyes on this one. :)

I noted there that I'd still appreciate evaluation from an admin for blocks on all those named accounts due to obviously strong behavioral evidence, I assume hopefully within a reasonable amount of time an admin will swing by to take a look at that? I'm only noting that due to ongoing investigation into spamming of the various subjects involved. Cheers, — Cirt (talk) 22:53, 27 October 2012 (UTC)

I have to agree with Elen, Dennis, and Ed, and my original comment, as Elen said "It's not so much stale as mummified" and unless he's back editing again, is really not worth our time, and WP:DENY can take care of this. If he comes back, then ok, we can look into this. But if it's not an active issue, i'm not going to spend the extra time hunting. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 05:54, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you unprotect Wikipedia:Pending changes/Provisional policy. It is too far out of line with the consensus from later RfCs to ever become the policy. Please mark it as historical after unprotecting. There's a current discussion at WT:PC on finalizing the draft policy that's on WP:PC Gigs (talk) 08:11, 28 October 2012 (UTC)

Although it might appear to be out of line with consensus, I have to disagree that it's time to take it out of commission. The provisional policy is meant to be in place until the RfC on what the policy is to be is finished. Until that happens, it's really still in effect when ever pending changes is enabled (though it probably won't be for another bit is what I hear). I am not following the discussion on PC personally, so do feel free to notify me when a consensus has been established. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 04:43, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm engaged editing dispute in {{International field hockey}}. I'm discuss in the talk page, 3 days, no one reply, when i refer to {{International football}} to fix, my edit reverted and i received 3RR warning. To say, it keep revert only and never discuss. Is that right? --Aleenf1 16:51, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

The official message on your talkpage is not a 3RR warning, but a warning about edit warring. My fellow admin, Nyttend, commented nicely on the talk about it not being for 3RR. I have left a message on the talkpage too. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 21:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)