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Hi there. Yes my bot should be able to be adapted to rename / move articles. But is there a list of these articles? And is it a simple rename such as - "_"'s or something more complex. These are the thing I will need to know to see if it is possible. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Hi Addshore
Hi Addshore. As I mentioned to you before, I am a veteran journalist and I am trying to make a series of contributions to Wikipedia on subjects that are notable (based upon reader polls, reader comments, article rankings on the subject, etc in the publications for which I write professionally such as Institutional Investor, E-Commerce Times, TechNewsWorld, MacNewsWorld, CIO Update, etc), but that are not widely known beyond trade journals and a handful of technical pubs.
The first category I selected was fleet management/telematics and I wrote my first contribution on "Dispatched Software" intending to follow that with a series of articles on various technology types and products in the fleet management universe. But my article on Dispatched Software was struck immediately under "speedy deletion rules" before I had a chance to discuss it with any editor and possibly fix whatever part of the article was of concern. I readily admit to being a newbie here and I am willing to repair or rewrite articles as needed to fit Wikipedia standards without complaint. But I need an opportunity to that.
I'm not sure which editor struck the article and I'm not trying to cause a fuss nor alienate that editor. I am merely asking you to help me in understanding what was deemed wrong with the article and what I need to do to repair the article so that I can correctly add the rest of the series that collectively will present a fairly complete picture of the field.
My heart is in the right place, as I'm sure yours and the deleting editor's is. How can we discuss and resolve this problem?
Well the Dispatched Software article was deleted for "WP:CSD#G12: blatant copyright infringement" also "WP:CSD#G11: blatant advertising" and WP:NOT#ADVERTISING policy. To overcome these issues I suggest that you read through those links which have a description of the deletion reason and the policys that you "broke". Athaenara deleted that page and If you would like to know why in more detail then I suggest you go and talk to him on his talk page as I can not acctually see what the article was before it got deleted. I hope this helps. If you need more help please ask again :> ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont18:32, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
Russell Carter
Thanks for reverting my accidental blanking of the Russell Carter article. I was intending to revert to a clean version, but you got there before me :) Gail (talk) 16:41, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
It does seem like Dr. Carlo is actively proposing the link between CCD and cell phones. He may be wrong, but he is proposing the idea. I am sure,(although I haven't researched yet) that there are studies that say GM foods or pesticides are not responsible either. The study misquoted seems to link portable phones(like my landline) to CCD. The truth is that the cause is a mystery and all the proposed causes can be removed due to lack of evidence. The article goes to great lengths to dispute cell phones as a cause, but that is only because it is an often proposed cause. Most proposed causes to anything are indeed wrong, yet are still proposed causes
Marcus MacGregor (talk) 18:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
The topics include Wiki-Stress, Arbcom making policy and Wikipedia:Parental Advisory. The multiple files have now been abandoned having finally figured out a bit more about ogg compression so this episode is in one chunk.
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Ummm okay, can I write this to you personally? I want you to know that, but since talk pages do also get reverted, I just wish you would personally suffer from vandalism. Is there a way I can get to you more privately? Thanks, 216.252.95.98 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 22:03, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
If you use that tag then the image will more than likely get deleted. You preferably want to copyright holder to release the work under one of the free use licences such as Creative Commons or the GNU license and then pick that tag.
Hmm I am at a quandary as what to do at this point. I don't have permission to post the images yet, but I did ask. The article I wrote is about a famed artist. Most artists will not release their artworks copyright. Maybe it will have to have no photos for now. But it would be a shame not to post at least one piece of artwork and the artist's photo. I live on Planet Art (talk) 23:17, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
Blog Source
Generally, is a neat, longstanding, non-advocacy blog a reliable source? In particular, in case it matters, I was considering blog as a reference about the Great Plains Zoo. Zoe17 (talk) 17:31, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
I have to say that it is a preemptive page protect. No vandalism has ever happened on the page but I guess other than saying that it is above us. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont15:38, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Well the refusal was made by an admin who doesn't even use Huggle (or I'm yet to see them use it). I guess if you need to make a change to the config page whilst trying to fix the bugs, the only thing you can do is use the {{editprotected}} tag unless Iridescent can see some sense and change the protection. ——Ryan • (talk)15:45, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
Ermm... yeah, doesn't that violate protection policy? Protects are preventative, not preemptive, I thought?. Oh well, there's a discussion at AN 'bout this, we should probably continue this there. Calvin 1998(t-c)19:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
A couple of weeks ago you welcomed me to Wikipedia with a plate of virtual cookies and the offer of assistance. (Just 15 minutes before your 22-in-a minute run.) Maybe you can help me with this. I would think that entries on English Wikipedia are supposed to be in English, but the article Stojanka Novaković Stoja appears to be in Serbian. Any suggestions? 24.36.74.15 (talk) 13:39, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
Since I've been editing for only a month, your parenthetical "I think" is causing me self-doubt. May I explain my reasoning for your criticism? The Serbian text was introduced only by the previous edit, which overwrote the existing English article. (I should have checked this before bothering you about it.) Not seeing a Serbian version listed in the language box on the left, and wondering whether by some WIKI-Voodoo the Serbian version had somehow been mislocated into English Wikipedia, I did some quick research and found that the Serbian text was lifted word-for-word from the Biografija on this website. Assuming this makes the text useless for Wikipedia, I undid the Serbian edit back to the English version, confident in the knowledge that anyone smarter than me would have no trouble retrieving the Serbian text from the edit history if necessary. Did I violate WP:GOTCHA, or overlook anything I should have done? 24.36.74.15 (talk) 16:31, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
I think you have done the correct thing. Have you thought about adding the other page in the other language to the correct wiki? ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont10:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Addshore, are there any plans to release the source at any time? I'd be interested to see if I can get it to work with Mono. ffm19:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
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Uhm
The Tireless Contributor Barnstar
I hereby award you, Addshore. This barnstar because of your excellent contributions to this project, and for helping me all the time! Kanonkas : Talk 16:28, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
Im a fast worker ^^. Still doing now. Over half way through. If you ever want any more newsletters delivered feel free to ask :> ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont16:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
I just wanted to clarify that, whatever that was, it wasn't my edit. The only other person who has access to this computer is my mother, and I'd swear that she isn't interested in ballistic vests, either. (I don't think she even knows what Wikipedia is.)
I wonder if there's been some hijacking, here? I'm deliberately leaving this comment without signing in, so that I can compare the IP addresses.
Hi there. The problem is that you have not acctually got an account but are using you IP address to edit through. Every now and again as you are on a dynamic connection your ip will change meaning someone else has more than likly used the ip address that you are editing from at the moment (83.76.251.6). I suggest that you create an account (click the link top right). This way you won't get blamed for edit you don't make. Thanks for asking for help :> ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont18:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
Hello Addshore, sorry am away (on holiday yay) and just seen your reply to my problem on the Huggle feedback page, which has since been archived (very efficient!). Thought I would reply here rather than pull it out of the archive. It's not due to the user already having been warned in the last 10 seconds, or having been warned 4 times already. The big difference is that Huggle displays the vandalised version of the page as the current version even after reverting it. However, I have been using version 10 and notice that a new version seems to have come out. Will try the new version when I get back home. Thanks for your help anyway, AvnjayTalk17:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
Could you periodically post a compiled version of the latest development source code on the download window (perhaps with the tag "alpha") so others (like me) can test it without having to use Subversion and compiling it ourselves? Thanks. And you might want to get Fritzpoll into the project... Calvin 1998(t-c)02:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
I have been trying to get fritzpoll's email but i havn't seen him around in a while. The problem with releasing alphas is that they need their own version number. 0.7.11 is taken and is older. 0.7.12 is not complete as bugs have not been fixed yet. Once we have fixed these last few bugs though be are hoping to release the new version. Also I am looking to add in an auto update function. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
1. Alphas should be released as the new version but with 'a' or "alpha" attached to the end of the name or as a tag. The point of an alpha is it isn't complete :/ 2. Auto-update is a little hard, notifications of updates via the messagebar is more feasible, but would require the config to be unprotected :( 3.) You could email Fritzpoll using Special:EmailUser/Fritzpoll, but it seems like he's on partial wikibreak (see his userpage + history). Calvin 1998(t-c)14:48, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The version number can only contain numbers and would not work with an a meaning no alphas would be able to run. We have already worked out a way to do auto updates and i will see when frtizpoll come back online on skype. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont15:20, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
Would it be possible to release 0.7.12 with a tag containing "alpha" and not featuring it until it's all done? And I still think auto-update is a little hard, even the AWB updater sometimes doesn't work. Calvin 1998(t-c)22:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
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I was recently welcomed by ·Add§hore· which I found to be a very friendly gesture. However, I've been editing off-and-on since September of 2006, so I am wondering what triggered the welcome. Did I hit some magic number of edits? Or was it in response to my first ever revert? Philhower (talk) 21:28, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
The reason i gave it to you was because you were a newish user (edit count wise) that had no talk page so no warn or welcomes already. The thing that acctually triggered yourwelcome message was an edit that I saw :> I'm glad you liked it ^^ ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:47, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
How did you just mass-welcome a bunch of IP's using Huggle? Is it a new function or something? (and I still need a copy of 0.8.0 to test) Calvin 1998(t-c)04:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
All it is is adding the template to their user pages. Load the page, press "T", push "down", push "enter", push "space", push "T" e.t.c :> ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:43, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome and cookies. Whether this was automatic or not, I'm not sure, but I noticed a typo in the following text: "I will always be willing to help you on Wikipeia so you can ask your questions on my talk page".
As you can see, Wikipedia is spelled wrong. Just thought I'd let you know!
Hmm yes, i seem to be able to log in with one of my passwords so i guess It is me. I guess on one of my late nights i created the account so people couldn't pretend to be me. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont16:01, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Do you intend to use this account? We could really use some help from a bot in reverting.... well vandalism. For a Vandal Wiki, it still has rules. Anonymous has been driving me crazy... Perhaps you can make a bot that will revert all edits that change a page into an external link or external image? That would allow me to unlock the Wiki. KremTell me stuff♫Whaaaat I've Doooonne!♪16:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for the welcome message. I'm super new at wiki-ing or whatever you wiki people like to call it, but hopefully I'm doing it right. I'll try to remember to always use the comment thing like you mentioned.
Thanks for the welcome message!! I did a bit of editing as an anon on this and now decided to sign up officially but just wondering what exactly do I do if i'm adopted (in wikipedia terms..obviously not in the other way)?!Nisior (talk) 22:03, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Well it depends on who adopts you. All adopters have their own way of working. Generally speaking you will be shown the ropes of wikipedia, what to do and what not to do. The user that adopts you will be there for you to ask questions to e.t.c and will generally be there to help and support you. Once you have "passed" the adoption process you should be pretty capable on wiki and know more of less what you are doing. If you want me to try and set you up with someone just ask, remember you don't have to go through the program. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont22:06, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
Hey again. Please talk to Steve Crossin on his talk page here and he will talk to you about getting adopted. I hope you have a nice time on wiki. Again if you need help just send me a message. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont22:31, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I think I will make this easier and make the bot {{nobots}} compliant. This way it will automatically skip pages with the tag. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont16:37, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
I, Whenaxis, has enclosed that I no longer want to have this article. I confess this magazine is not suitable for Wikipedia due to its lack of notability. Please feel free to delete the article. Thanks, Whenaxis (talk) 23:38, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
I have interpreted this message as a request for the article to be deleted. Therefore, I marked the article with {{db-g7}}, one of the speedy deletion templates, which is used when the author wishes the article to be deleted. Calvin 1998(t-c)00:08, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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Thanks for the welcome, can you direct?
Thanks for the offer of help. I would like to be directed to the project on Molecular and Cell Biology. I started an article on transgenic mice and will work on that and link it into existing articles; it seems to fit into that area.
There are existing articles on Genetically modified organisms and gene targeting that I can relate this to.
FyI, I am a Ph.D. with active research in this area ans take an interest in public education, so want to contribute! So, if you can link me to the Mol Cell Biol project, I would be appreciative (still learnging my way around).
Hi there. Thanks for saying thanks about the welcome and sorry for my late reply but I just fell asleep before you sent me this message :>. The wikiproject I think you are looking for is called Wikipedia:WikiProject Molecular and Cellular Biology and is located here. Again sorry for my slow response. I hope you enjoy editing wikipedia and make some good contributions to the project. If you still need help feel free to come and find me again on my talk page. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont07:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
How do you change the colour of the bars at the top of each section on the Devon Portal from light blue to the dark green used on the flag of Devon? bsrboy (talk) 15:59, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
You passed the course with 85.7142857. The reason for you not getting 100% was that on question four you said to use a vandalism warning template. As the question was "if a user removed or blanked all the content from a page" you should have given the user a uw-delete1 warning. This is only a very minor mistake and a common mistake as well. A link for more information on warning templates is here. If you need more help then just ask me again on my talk page. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont12:30, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
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I believe I have succesfully finished the assignment with the vandalism 1.2 course. I had some experience with reverting vandalism already, mostly on the Dutch wikipedia. I did however learn to use huggle. Much faster, and it prevented that many cases in what when my page was loaded another editor had already finished the work ;)
I would be happy to help you create the articles if you start them off I will do the links and formatting e.t.c. If you are just writing articles about blogs though they my / probably will get deleted. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:15, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
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My name is Pierre, from Geneva. I already contributed to a couple of articles in French and I recently put a new entry in English, about a online social network by the name of Glocals.com.
The article was tagged twice: "This article or section is written like an advertisement" and "This article may require cleanup". I contacted the patroller in order to ask him if he could be more specific but his answer didn't help me very much.
So I would like some help to make this article compatible to Wikipedia standards. Is it something you can do?
Hey! I have completed the assignment for the deletion course. I have used huggle to do most of it, and kept track of my doings for any comments by involved editors. I don't think I have made any big mistakes, but would like any feedback you could give me on proper tagging. I'm not sure how I should provide a list this time (with what links). And it sounds a bit meaningless as you can browse through them via my contributions. Most of my edits between 00:55 and 11:23 (your time) today, have been new page patrolling.
One thing I hope you can help me with is removing talk pages from the new pages controlling list in huggle. If I go to system, the talk and user talk checkboxes at qeue are unchecked. When I click OK after that Huggle writes Updating configuration page... in the log at bottom screen. And removes talk pages from the filtered changes list it automatically switched to. But when I click go to New pages, where I don't want them, it starts showing the talk pages again. =Species8473=(talk)11:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
The wording that was already there was the correct wording (I am sure). Also you removed a wiki link. Simplifying wording is not necessarily good. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont18:01, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
G'day add...
hope you're good - I thought I'd ask you for a bit of technical help (once again!) - with creating a RSS feed for 'NotTheWikipediaWeekly' - you can see here and here that I've gotten it underway - and to my eternal surprise it actually works on my copy of iTunes! - Downloads the podcasts and everything!!
It would be absolutely fantastic if I could get a little bit of help (particularly here) in getting the feed up to date - it'll then be a lot easier to keep it current... that file isn't the live one, by the way (although if there's a clever way of allowing a wiki page to work as an RSS feed, I'd love to hear it!) - my thought was that if I can get some help collaboratively updating that page, then I can do the simple copy over onto the live site - provided by Dan T (with thanks!) - it's quite likely that I've not explained some aspect or other about what I'm up to here... so do feel free to ask any questions - and cheers! - Privatemusings (talk) 01:42, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for telling me about this error. Ill take a look at the code and see if I can make it skip these. I will turn the bot off for now as soon as I get home. Again thanks. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont12:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Fieldbrook Farms
Please explain why you are continually reverting the anon editor who is working on this article and reporting them for vandalism. caknuck°is back from his wikisiesta18:31, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, sorry for my late reply. This anon editor was not only reverted by me but also by 3 other users. Some of his nonconstructive edits included this one where he removed the delete tag (maybe / probably not knowing not to) this was reverted. He continued to do this quite a few times. My first revert was for the vandalism in this edit. This appeared to me as obvious vandalism. This revert now looking at it I have to say that I was 100% wrong. This edit then also triggered me to revert again (link). After these there was also this revert and again here. On this case I would defiantly say that I made mistakes. The reason I reverted the edits was because at the time of reversion for some reason these seemed like edits that should be reverted. Looking again now I am starting to have second thoughts. - ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont09:20, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi Addshore, sorry i haven't got any knock knock jokes, im sure a joker will come by soon and give you a laugh:D Just want to ask what came about of this discussion of changing the edit summary to what you suggested? Are you just waiting for the next version to come out and then change the config. page in regards to this? I understand if this so, i have no doubts that no one would complain of you changed it to HG instead of the current. Thanks Monster Under Your Bed(talk)07:35, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
I could change it now, I just wanted a bit more discussion really :>. If nothing else is said soon then I think I will change it. Bad luck about not having any knock knock jokes :> ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont10:02, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
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I'm going on vacation to France/Spain, so the final test will have to wait a bit. Thanks a lot for all your help so far, I learned quite a bit from the courses. Expected to be back during the end of August. Hope you have a good time. Greetings, =Species8473=(talk)22:03, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
Ok, thanks for telling me. I have / am very busy with tests this week so it couldn't really have been any sooner. Tell me when you get back :) and don't forget what you've learnt. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
Unclear Article
I recently read the article on orbits. I felt that part of the article was unclear and said so on the discussion page. No one has addressed my question. What should I do?Kissnmakeup (talk) 04:02, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Well your first choice is to wait until someone does reply. If this fails and no one replies then I find a good way to get replies and people to read what you have said is by looking in the article history, finding the editors which have edited the article lots and asking them about it on their talk page. This way you should get some good replies and maybe something done. I hope this helps you. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont06:36, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. A normal user is limited to creating (i think) 6 accounts in one day. The account creator right allows a user to create a much higher ammount (I dont know the exact number). This is useful for when users are working on pages such as WP:ACC. I hope this helps. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont07:01, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
If the IP from which a user is trying to create and account from is blocked from account creating the user will not be able to create an account and should go through WP:ACC. This should also happen if your user name is too similar to an existing one to be created. Again I hope this helps. -- ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont07:11, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
Thanks for your support in my RFA, which passed with 140 supporting, 11 opposing, and 4 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have given to me. If I can ever assist you with anything, just ask.
Hi, can I have project access to the Huggle Google Code project? I have an account on Google, soxred93. If it helps, I have a patch prepared for Huggle. I would like to assist in the development of Huggle. Soxπed93(blag)02:13, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
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Hi there and sorry to interrupt your huggling. I'm not trying to attack I would just like ask nicely if you could make sure that an edit is 100% vandalism before you push the revert and warn for vandalism button. I now huggle is a fast tool and many people only use revert and warn but please remember you don't have to use that button but can also pick from other warnings. Thanks for your time reading this. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont22:33, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
I would just like to say thanks for not biting me :P. Im trying to go around looking at as many edits as I can made by huggle and hopefully catch some people out as I did to you ^^. Some people really dont have a clue. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont22:35, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
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I saw on the adoptee page that you were open to adopting new, inexperienced users such as myself? The reason I would very much like to be adopted by you is because you handle javascripts and other tools/apps on Wikipedia. I myself am in the techie business. I would greatly appreciate if you would consider adopting me. Best wishes, Katebranson (talk) 21:03, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi there. Yes I would be happy to adopt you. If you understand what my adoption processes need on my adoption sub page(linked to top right) then give me a little bit of confirmation and Ill get the ball rolling :) ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont08:19, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
Huggle
Thanks for the message. I wanted to know about the way users are described. on Wikipedia:Huggle it shows 4 different colored squares for trusted, anonymous, reverted, and other. What is a trusted user? Is a trusted user one that is on the "whitelist" you mentioned? How does Huggle know that someone is trusted? or anonymous, reverted, or other? I would think an anonymous user is one that hasn't registered and their edits appear on an ip address. But what is a reverted user? and an other user? thanks. Becky Sayles (talk) 19:13, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok I will try to say everything now :). The colors as you said correspond to the users status. There are the ones for warnings, these also display a number for the level of the warning. The level and the fact that the user has a warning is taken from the fact that the information is taken from the user talk page. This is then displayed in the queue. There are then also red blocks. These appear if the user is reported on WP:AIV The empty circle with a red background is just reported on AIV. A solid black circle means the user has been blocked. A green block with a left pointing arrow in it is a revert. Blue is an edit from a trusted user. Blue with a b in it is a bot edit. Brown is anon / ip and white is a registered user not on the white list.
The information is taken from a variety of sources. The IRC feed for the blocks and talk pages for the warnings. The users on the white list are listed on the huggle white list sub page. User will automatically get added to this list of the are listed as having a BOT FLAG or have over 500 edits. The users will get automatically added to the white list when huggle closes and huggle has seen an edit from that user(see white list history for examples)
To be 100% honest I actually have no Idea what a reverted user is :S. I will try to find out for you :). Huggle knows that a user is anonymous as the user name is an ip or "*.*.*.*". An OTHER user IS one that is not anonymous, or reverted (I think has not been reverted), is not on the white list meaning the registered users with a lower amount of edits (under 500) and a few with over 500 as the way in which huggle adds users to the white list isn't perfect.
I think I might just have answered anything but if there is anything that you are still unsure about feel free to ask again :). Sorry for repeating myself also in all of that as it was hard to remember what I had said and how I had said it e.t.c ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont19:30, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Huggle and redirects
Hey there. Huggle should follow redirects just as AWB does and other bots do. Users semi-regularly redirect their user talk page to either a subpage or the user talk page of another account that they use. The argument that it would be abused by vandals is both silly and illogical. When text is placed below redirects, it isn't shown to the reader, it causes confusion, and it damages the results of broken redirect queries. I'd appreciate your thoughts on the issue, but I'll be honest when I say I'm not really willing to accept a WONTFIX here. ; - ) --MZMcBride (talk) 22:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
You cant really compare the warning side of huggle with AWB as AWB doesnt warn. If one user edits badly it should be them that receives the warning on that exact account not the account the page redirects to. To be honest I think we need more more peeople and more discussion on this :) As it stands I still dont think this should be chaged unless someone comes up with a good reason. I know the whole point of a redirect is to kind of follow it but ging back to the way this could be abused. If we were ti implement this I could go around on a load of random ip's. Before I vadalisze redirect my usertalkpag to some unsuspecting user. Me being the Ip could go and cause as much trouble as I wanted. No one would notice unless they looked carfully, especially not using huggle, that it was acctually me. At the same time the unsuspecting user suddenly has a level 4 warning and an AIV report :S. I lookforward to hearing your veiws about what I have just said :) ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont22:47, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
Addbot is subst'ing user warning templates that are in article space. Ex: [5], [6], [7]. These templates do not belong on articles. Could you modify your bot to either remove them from articles or ignore them in article space and we can have another bot remove them? Once subst'ed, their misuse is no longer easily found. Thanks. -- JLaTondre (talk) 16:13, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
Hmm.. Thanks for telling me about this. My bot hasn't edited in a long time due to server issues. This is very strange as when the bot requests the links for the pages the templates are on it only looks for user talk pages >.<. Again thanks for telling me and ill have a look as soon as my server, hopefully, gets fixed. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont16:16, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
No, it's not. Actually, I think I just wasn't giving it enough time to do it's thing, but I'm not sure. In any case, it's not a problem now. :) Thanks for asking though. Regards. Thingg⊕⊗22:59, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
...for participating in my RfA, which closed with 119 in support, 4 neutral and 5 opposes. I'm honestly overwhelmed at the level of support that I've received from the community, and will do my best to maintain the trust placed in me. I 'm also thankful to those who opposed or expressed a neutral position, for providing clear rationales and superb feedback for me to build on. I've set up a space for you to provide any further feedback or thoughts, should you feel inclined to. However you voted, thanks for taking the time out to contribute to the process, it's much appreciated. Kind regards, Gazimoff22:48, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
Wow you're one of the first people that has thankspammed me and replied when I didn't think they would :O YAY! :P ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont
Heh. Although I had several watchlisted I did a sweep a couple of days after the thankspam to see if anyone had replied. All part of the service :) Gazimoff00:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
That's my IP address. For some reason, when I was reverting on Huggle, it froze momentarily and registered my edits as my IP address (there were two edits that were registered as my IP address - [8]), and not my username (this is a shared IP btw, so I always use my account). I don't know what happened, but it seemed to correct itself afterwards. I've also posted this on the feedback page, so the other users know of it too. Sorry about all of this. I don't know what happened. TheSuave22:38, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
Don't say sorry its good that we found you. So it just kind of froze when these edits happened? Anything you can remember would be nice :) ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont07:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
For some reason, when I was reverting those two edits, Huggle completely froze (I couldn't press any other buttons or exit the program). It froze for about 7 seconds and then made my reversions but registered them by my IP address and not my username. The edits I made afterwards were fine, but on those two edits it froze and didn't register my username. Hope that helps. TheSuave12:05, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
If huggle freezes again and you think some edits may have slipped through as they did here please tell me here asap :). Thanks for all of your help, now we will "try" to fix it ^^. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont12:07, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Hi there, I've been with Wikipedia for a few years, but there's always more to learn. I recently learned about the adoption program and you look like you participate in a wide variety of activities. Perhaps you'd like to adopt me, bring me up to snuff, then send me out to adopt someone else. :) Banaticus (talk) 21:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Yep I would be happy to adopt you. Just make sure you read my adoption page first and make sure its what you want to do :). Hopefully the pages and tasks should be quite self explanarty but If you get stuck just ask me on my talk page(here). If you decide you want me to addopt you please reply here saying so once you have read the page so I can set some stuff up for you. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont21:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
Ok. Your adoption page has been created here This is where I will update what you have done and things like that :). Your first task is simply to fill in your interests on that page. Next you will need to decide which 2 or more of the optional lessons you would like to do. One you have done this reply here with the two optional lessons and then start working through the Required lessons. I suggest you try to spread the lessons out a bit and gain as much experience in each area as you can. Each of the courses has a set of questions at the bottom. These should be answered on my talk page and Ill asses how well you have done and add a grade to your sub page :). I hope you understand everything I have just said. Remember if you ever need any help then please just ask me on my talk page. Also as you are only the second user to go through the adoption process with me there may still be some faults in the courses and pages. If you find any please let me know. Thanks for choosing me. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont11:59, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
Copyright on a Free Wikipedia
What is the Wikipedia slogan? The Free Encyclopedia.
What licence is the content on Wikipedia released under? The GFDL or the GNU Free Documentation License.
If a user was to infringe copyright what could happen to their account on Wikipedia? They could find themselves blocked/banned from further editing for a period of time.
User Permissions
What is a permission? A permission is an extra ability granted to a user to do something that somebody off the street wouldn't be able to do.
What pages are un-registered users able to edit? All pages which haven't been protected in some fashion.
What is an auto confirmed account? An account that is at least four days old and has made at least 10 edits.
What permissions do registered accounts have? Well, unless they're autoconfirmed, they don't have any additional permissions. But, after that, they can move/create pages and upload files and edit semi-protected pages.
Who can grant rollback? An Administrator, a beaurocrat or a steward.
What privileges do acccountcreators have and why? Accountcreators can create more than six accounts a day. I'm really not sure why they'd need to create more than six accounts a day -- are people really unable to think of a name that isn't "too close" to an already existing name? I guess blind people who can't read the CAPTCHA would need help, but that doesn't seem like a very big segment of the population.
Who can grant accountcreator and how do you request it? First you have to create a login for the tool[9] then you have to subscribe to the list (or your request will be denied). Then you wait for a tool admin to approve you. [[Image:Symbol support vote.svg|15px]
What does rollback enable you to do? Rollback removes all edits made by the last person to edit the page. Even if they've edited the page six times in a row, as long as no one else has edited the page, all of their edits will be reverted.
What should you not use rollback for? You shouldn't use it to "win" an edit war.
What are administrators able to do? Gosh darn near everything. ;) Really, not much more than the regular user, although they can see deleted pages, delete things, revert deletions, see pages that aren't on anyone's watchlist, give rollback and/or accountcreator permissions, allow someone from a banned IP to login, protect a page.
How do you request adminship? You do an RfA, Request for Adminship and if a majority of the people that check you out approve of you and your request, then you'll be made an admin.
What are bureaucrats main duties? They can promote to admin or beaurocrat status, rename accounts and alter a bot's status.
What technical abilities do stewards have? Everything, everywhere, seriously.
What does checkuser enable a user to check? With checkuser, a user can check to see if one account is a possible sockpuppet of another account.
What is oversight? The ability to completely hide something from public site.
What type of a user must you be to be granted oversight? Generally, current or former members of the Arbitration Committee.
Vandalism 1.1
What is vandalism? When someone comes along and malicious starts wanking on the page, err, I mean, makes an unhelpful or unconstructive edit.
What are obvious indicators of a vandalism edit while watching recent changes? Large byte changes, no edit summary, it says "page blank" or something.
How do you revert vandalism? Click "undo" and follow the steps, or "rollback" (if you have that permission), or use an automated tool like Huggle or Twinkle or right clicking on the link.
What warning template would you use if a user removed or blanked all the content from a page? The first time, {{subst:uw-delete1}}
What warning template would you use if a user add the words "i really hate wikipedia!" to an article? First time, {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}
How do you add an article to your watchlist? Just click "Watch" up on the top. Or, if your preferences are set to watch everything you edit, find something to fix on the page and you'll watch it.
If you misuse such tools as WP:TW or WP:VPRF what could happen? You could be banned/blocked.
Diff1: [10] Vandalism -- user added, "yer all losers"
Diff2: [11] This was a fairly subtle and cunning form of vandalism -- if I wasn't familiar with the movie, I would have thought that this was someone going through and fixing the page. Someone should keep an eye on this guy.
Diff3: [12] Vandalism -- user added the text, "My tiny little nipples went to France aswell so you cant forget that"
Thanks for the answers. The first one is 100% correct. Just a few things in User Permissions question 3 an autoconfirmed users amount of time and number of edits can sometimes vary but the standard time is that which you said. Regarding question 6 I think about the account creators and why to have them. Take a quick peak at WP:ACC If you still don't get it ask me again here :). For questions 7 can I have a little more detail, what is the name of the page you request the accountcreator from? how? What should you not use rollback for, You should not use rollback for anything anything other than vandalism. Rollback is a tool that is only meant to be used with vandalism and if you do start rolling back other edits you can find you may have your rollback removed. Also regarding checkuser just in case you didn't know as you didn't say this in your answer. They can check which account have edited from an Ip or they can check which Ips an account has edited from and things like that.
Yep the vandalism diffs look great. I see you have learn t to use huggle. One thing I will say straight off is make sure you don't go too fast and make mistakes :P. Check your adoption subpage for updates of the marks. Have you made a sub page for the wikimarkup course? Oh also please reply in a different section as this one is getting a little to big now :P. ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont08:24, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
"Hi, As a regularly contributing UK Wikipedian I was wondering if you wanted to get involved in the Oxford bid to host Wikimania 2010. Please see here for details of how to get involved." --cfp (talk) 13:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I really really would like to but Im afraid that my bots are on the blink at the moment so its got to be a no :S. I need to try to egt them running again =[ ·Add§hore·Talk/Cont08:30, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
Just a little note to say thankyou for participating in my successful RFA candidacy, which passed with 96 supports, 0 opposes, and 1 neutral. I am pleasantly taken aback by the amount of support for me to contribute in an administrative role and look forward to demonstrating that such faith is well placed. Regards, WilliamH (talk)10:16, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
This is for helping me with the problem I had on logging in to Huggle. Looks like I put you into a lot of trouble for a simple thing, so I'm feeling kind of guilty too :) Thanks again for all the effort. -- ChamalTalk11:45, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
