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Gee… you've been doing some great work at the CVU, what with creating the Academy project and all. Let it be my honor, this time, in presenting you with the [Wiki]Project Barnstar! Keep it up! benzband (talk) 20:30, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Your kind words are more than enough, and your genorosity is overwhelming. Thank you, it means a lot to know that there's at least someone else out there who thinks this can be a worthwhile endeavor. Achowat (talk) 20:34, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I like trying [new] things :D It presents no problem and IMO is the way towards progress. Also, in my first steps reverting vandalism, it all being new to me, i was quite lost/unsteady about having a go… i think a few un-creepy instructions/questions wouldn't have gone amiss [^___^] benzband (talk) 20:49, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
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If I were you, I'd take two steps to answer your above questions: First, I would add myself to the Table; second, I would give Lorem ipsum a read . Cheers! Achowat (talk) 14:12, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Tell me your timezone and what tools (if any) you use and I can throw you on there. I'd also suggest giving Help:Wikitable a read; tables are easy once you get the hang of them. Achowat (talk) 14:23, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
See, that's what the invis-comment was about. I want to say something like "Capacity to handle this number of Enrollees" but in a way that doesn't sound, y'know, stupid. Achowat (talk) 15:33, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The only difference I would put in is making the "Ask a question" button more apparent. Our audience is going to be primarily inexperienced editors. Achowat (talk) 16:00, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
The IP did not just express an opinion, he !voted (although very weirdly considering he opposed and put it in the neutral section). Policy says "only editors with an account may place a numerical (#) "vote"." I'm not going to revert you. I'll leave that to you or to others. It isn't going to matter, anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:16, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
You make a reasonable point; I'm going to indent him and move the comment under Scottywong (though, this is all because we rely too much on toolserver and Democracy to determine consensus; though that's neither here nor there). I've moved the comments appropriately. Thanks for letting me know! Achowat (talk) 16:19, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Better, although, honestly, I think the IP was conflicted between neutral and opposed and didn't know how to express that.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:26, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, since s/he's agreeing with Scotty (and not !voting), I put hir comments right under Scotty's. Seemed the best fix available. Achowat (talk) 16:27, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
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Interesting, I didn't see that and I am usually good at catching those false positives. Out of more then 3000 this is the only one which I seem to have slipped up on because of the wording. I thought that their state sponsor (for New Jersey) was United Health Care, not that United Health Care was sponsoring their new jerseys. I've done some tinkering with the wording, I hope you like it. From, "In 2011, the Revolution announced that their new jersey sponsor would be United Health Care and that United Health Care would be written on the home and away jerseys." to "In 2011, the Revolution announced that United Health Care would be their jersey sponsor; its logo is on the home and away jerseys." I dropped new because it was implied to be new, but if you don't like it just revert it or alter it. Again, thank you for letting me know, I misread the context. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 13:38, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Actually, that wording is a lot better, given that New England has never had a "front of jersey" sponsor before. Good show! Achowat (talk) 13:42, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
As an American, I've come to find that the only people who hate Europeans more than Americans are people from the British Isles, and the only people British Islanders (to coin a term) hate more than Europeans are different kinds of British Islanders. Phyton's great man, though this conversation has, again, become far too silly. Achowat (talk) 14:24, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Dan, your words are enough (though I'm not going to pretend this wasn't a pleasant surprise when I woke up this morning. Achowat (talk) 12:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I've set you up a Manual archive box. I manually archive, so when I hit 10 dead conversations, I move them (and keep 20 dead conversations in each Archive; just my preference). You can put {{aan}} at the top of each Archive page and {{talk archive}} at the bottom, and then you'll be set-up just like me. Feel free to send me any questions. Cheers! Achowat (talk) 15:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, I think I got it. I set it to archive conversations older than 15 days and to create a new page if the old page gets over 70kB (or maybe kb, I don't really know). You can easily change those parameters if you'd like. Achowat (talk) 15:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Generally, I agree, and I only plan on not "approving" candidates in extraordianary circrumstances. The user I slapped an {{await}} on is concerning, to me at least, and I'd like to see a bit more out of him before continuing. He has about 200 edits, and that includes running in RFA and applying for Rollback. I just want to take a few days to make sure his head's in the right place, y'know? Achowat (talk) 15:57, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I have a mentally un-stimulating depressing office job where I click buttons at a computer all day, well that's my day job at least. Achowat (talk) 16:02, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
No, there are buttons to click, but I blow through the buttons so quickly and our production standards are set so low that I'm afforded a unique opportunity to click entirely different buttons here on en.wikipedia. Achowat (talk) 16:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't know, I'm an American. I don't know how I would handle living in England (you said you were in London, right?), what with the free healthcare and the EPL games on at times other than the asscrack of dawn. I don't know if I could live without my Saturday ritual of waking up at 6:00am, hitting the pub at 7:30am, and then waiting for first call and 9:00am. Achowat (talk) 16:15, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Well, then switching lives is probably not going to work out. The only musical talent I have is for Terrace Songs, and the non-sport fan thing messes that up. The Liverbird on my shoulder sort of pegs me as a soccer fan, as well. So we should probably stay on our own sides of the Atlantic, at least until you come 'round these parts for that pint I seem to remember you owing me. Achowat (talk) 16:22, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
I don't doubt the awesomeness of your girlfriend, but I do think she'll be more-than-a-little peeved knowing that you're offering her up to some Anonymous person on the World Wide Tubes just because he came up with a decent idea on how to educate counter-vandals. Achowat (talk) 17:14, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I'm just wondering, I reverted an edit earlier but then it was put back by another user. Is this true?--Chip123456 (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
The usual rule is when you add material to Wikipedia, you need to source it, that's what I have been taught. --Chip123456 (talk) 18:34, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes, actually. The standard is "verifiable", not necessarily "verified". You will, for instance, find no footnote for the fact "Elizabeth II is the Queen of Great Britain". As such, not every piece of information should be removed if added without a source. As CJLippert explains, if you disagree with something that has been added in good faith, you should let it stand or put a {{fact}} tag on it (the latter if you doubt that its true). The huge exception is contentious information on Living People; covering living people puts the editor and the Wikimedia Foundation in a state of liability for any fraud, libel, or slander. As such, contentious information about Living People (and only contentious information) that is not sourced should be removed. For more information on Veribiability versus Verified, see WP:V#When a reliable source is required; for more information about living people, see WP:BLP. Achowat (talk) 18:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Oh, Ok! Vehicle registration plate an editor (IP) placed some information on there, it was unsourced and it was quite a lot of information. I reverted it and placed a note in their TP. I then saw they reverted what I reverted, without any explanation or telling me why they didn't source it. I gave them a caution then. I'm unsure now whether I have done the right thing? Also this is on my watch list so no need for a TB thing, I don't really like them, although I may put them on others pages! --Chip123456 (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok, didn't know if you had me Watchlisted, just wanted to make sure. I took a look at the VRP changes already. I personally would have kept the information and applies a {{fact}} to the first piece of 'hard' evidence (a date, a statistic, etc). Leaving it be would have been acceptable as well. I, personally, would have still left the Template if I found something that required a citation. Achowat (talk) 19:00, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Ok! This may seem like a silly question so forgive me. Information must cite a reliable source* *although there are exceptions?--Chip123456 (talk) 15:24, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Information that has been challenged or is likely to be challenged requires a reliable source. However it's probably not the best practice to remove everything that is unsourced. If it sounds remotely plausible, I'd leave it and throw a {{fact}} on there. But for information that is more than far more than likely true (like who the Queen of the UK is) there is no need for such a tag. Achowat (talk) 11:28, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
So, if I or another editor feels it should be challenged remove it and explain, if it's obvious keep it with a CN tag. Ok, got it!--Chip123456 (talk) 15:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
That last line just made my day :D
Do you know of any other pages that I can look at to see latest revisions to Wikipedia - right now, I just constantly check the User Contributions page with the parameters "New Users, Article, Latest Revision"... but are there other places I should be looking? Namely, one that will show me IP edits? Thanks so much - TheopolismeTALK23:53, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Yes there is, and here's how you get to it.
On the left side under interaction click on recent changes.
At the top to the right of utilities click IP's contribs.
Oh wow. (smacks head on desk) Duh. Now, that right there is why the CVUA program rocks. Because if it weren't for you, I'd be clicking around all night. :D TheopolismeTALK00:05, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
I'm just giving you a little hell, because well, the Bruins lost and I want someone else to suffer as much as I am right now. That being said, I'm sure there are very, very few (Republic of) Irish protestants who are offended by your sig. However, it should be noted that if there were any, they'd find their way to Wikipedia. Achowat (talk) 15:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
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