Template talk:Use Hiberno-English

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I don't know what the history of this template is, but it doesn't appear that enough testing was done on its formatting within articles for which GA/FA stars or spoken version icons are displayed, since the flag overlaps all of them. Until this is fixed, I think the template should be discarded from all articles for which this is a problem. Y2Kcrazyjoker4 (talk • contributions) 01:08, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

See related discussion at Template talk:Use British English. Zzyzx11 (talk) 03:53, 2 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

There is no such thing as Irish English spelling. Yes, pronunciation is very distinct and there are local words and expressions not found elsewhere, but when it comes to spelling, all of Ireland uses standard British English spelling rules. See article about Hiberno-English. So this template serves no practical purpose. Thomas Blomberg (talk) 02:22, 28 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

So this about spelling. Any other language differences? (like: UK=football, US=soccer). Note that this template is intentionally used on "wikipedia articles written in Hiberno-English"; see the What links here-list. -DePiep (talk) 11:29, 29 November 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

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It was proposed in this section that Template:Use Irish English be renamed and moved to Template:Use Hiberno-English. result: Moved per consensus garnered below. Noted that the move request cited below was closed as "not moved". Kudos to editors for your input, and Happy, Healthy Publishing! (nac by page mover) P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 01:13, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply] Links: current log • target log This is template {{subst:Requested move/end}}

Template:Use Irish English → Template:Use Hiberno-English – Hiberno-English is the name commonly used in Wikipedia. This RM is proposed to harmonise such nomenclature. Soumya-8974 ^talk _contribs ^subpages 10:34, 10 October 2020 (UTC) —Relisting. Interstellarity (talk) 11:03, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

• Support to match Hiberno-English. BegbertBiggs (talk) 21:34, 20 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per COMMONNAME[1]. DrKay (talk) 18:46, 30 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Oppose per Google Trends, doesn't seem to be the common name.[2] Perhaps Hiberno English should be moved. (t · c) buidhe 03:42, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support to match the article. If Irish English is the common name, the article should be moved. -- Calidum 21:31, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment Someone that oppose move from Use Irish English to Use Hiberno-English like Buidhe and DrKay should open a new RM regarding whether the main article is Hiberno-English or Irish English because IMO, Template that use variants of Englishes are same as main article of the variant, for example because there are American English main article, in the template there is Template:Use American English in order for consistency between template and main articles. 36.76.239.33 (talk) 22:57, 3 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support. The common name argument above should have no relevance here seeing as the article linked by this template is at Hiberno-English. A template should never have a name different from what en.wiki uses. If there is a valid argument made to have the name as "Irish English" it should be done at the article level. --Gonnym (talk) 19:50, 4 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment see Talk:Hiberno-English#Requested_move_6_December_2020. (t · c) buidhe 20:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
• Support per nom. Also, this is super old, so should really be closed. Will not do this personally, as I voted on the article name - Alison ^❤ 20:08, 16 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.

Category:All Wikipedia articles written in Hiberno-English now appears as a redlink on numerous articles. I'm not sure whether it's just a case of the category needing to be created, or whether Category:All Wikipedia articles written in Irish English does the same job. FDW777 (talk) 10:58, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The article Hiberno-English clearly and competently explains that Irish English's writing standards, such as its spelling, align with British English. The rest of the article explains the differences in pronunciation (not relevant since Wikipedia is a written medium) and regionalisms (also not relevant because MOS:COMMONALITY says not to use regionalisms: Use a commonly understood word or phrase in preference to one that has a different meaning because of national differences).

I propose that this template is redundant and that it should be redirected to {{Use British English}}. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:09, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nominated at TFD. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:36, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is an invisible template, so {{Template for discussion/dated}} should be put in <noinclude>...</noinclude>. To do otherwise seems disruptive to the 1000 33180 articles that transclude this.

Pinging Jonesey95. Retro (talk | contribs) 23:57, 22 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks, that looked horrible. Fixed. – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:02, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I also realized I was looking at the {{Hiberno-English}} transclusion count; this template actually has 33180 transclusions. No wonder it's template-protected. Retro (talk | contribs) 00:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This template was nominated for merging, but was kept. As such, the inaccurate documentation needs clarification. Help is welcome. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:53, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]