Currently the template is usually added to the top of the article, and the documentation implicitly recommends this by saying this is the easiest way to add it. However De-orphaning a correctly tagged article involves editing not this article but others potentially related to it, which is not really newbie territory. I would suggest that the preferred location for this tag should be discretely at the end of the article, this won't make any difference to those of our editors who de-orphan articles, but it will improve the look of the pedia, and fit in with the general ethos that tags at the top of an article should be warnings to readers rather than internal cleanup for editors. Naturally I am not suggesting that the existing orphan tags be moved, just that we change the preferred location and then get Twinkle changed so that new tags are usually added at the end. ϢereSpielChequers 11:05, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
Do we still use this do-attempt parameter? I noticed there are less than 1,000 pages in Category:Attempted de-orphan while we have 100,000 orphan pages. Moreover, what difference does it make that someone attempted to fix a page in April 2008? It's been 2 and half years since then. I suggest that we deprecate this parameter (which I forgot it existed!) -- Magioladitis (talk) 08:32, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
It seems the "#Add link to tool" doesn't work for articles with special characters in their name, e.g. Mozart: Violin Sonatas gives http://edwardbetts.com/find_link?q=Mozart:_Violin_Sonatas which stalls (Firefox) or fails (IE, Chrome). The tool doesn't return anything for 5408 Thé nor for many other article names. I suggest to remove it from the template until the tool gets fixed. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:24, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
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There is a sandbox version that will fix the category suppression, since this template uses Ambox, the "all" parameter needs to be in use, so that only article pages get categorized. Also, Ambox has a "subst" parameter, which I have updated also. Otherwise, the "Help" and "Wikipedia" pages where the template is used as an example keep getting into the article category. Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 23:36, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Apparently, having the "name" parameter within the template, along with the "subst" parameter causes a template loop to show the /doc pg twice. See: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (article message boxes)#Template loops. So, the sandbox has a revised version that needs to be implemented to fix the problem. Thanks, --Funandtrvl (talk) 22:07, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
I think that "Please remove this template if the article is impossible to de-orphan" or "Please use the att parameter if this article is impossible to de-orphan" should be added to the template. While using automated tools such as AWB, I add orphan tags to articles that may not be able to be de-orphaned. It is impossible to check every article to see if it is possible before I tag it. Ryan Vesey contribs 01:36, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
At the risk of promoting heresy: I suggest that the visible box on this template be removed. All the other hat templates give a warning that the article may suffer from some issues (COI, lack of references, POV, etc.). However, orphanhood is not in the same league. We still have the category so wiki editors will see, find, and attempt to find links to the orphans, but users do not need to worry that the article at Z Apodis, e.g., is compromised because no one has bothered to create a slew of lists on which that star would appear. Since, typically stars are far from one another and unless they happen to align sight-wise from Earth or are of similar types, they have little to do with one another logically either - and both those characteristics are currently (and better) handled with categories, rather than links. So nearly every star article at WP will be as lonely as its real counterpart in space; but the taggers, they tag, and the viewers see these tags and infer something is amiss, when no such thing should be. There are no doubt other broad categories of objects for which templates providing links would be overwhelmed by sheer quantity, and most individuals will have few, if any incoming links, but will be found through search and category. So, I think the visible box be removed from the template and only the category be placed. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 21:49, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
(I don't care, it's a word now. :-p) As the template documentation and others above have mentioned above, some articles might always be orphans. However, Anyone using AWB with the tagger will automatically add the tag, even when it is not desired. I propose a template, such as {{orphan whitelist}}, be created to add to articles that will always be orphans. This template doesn't need to have any visible content output on the page (maybe just a hidden category for tracking?). But it can be added into AWB's logic - so that if a page is an orphan, but someone has placed the above tag on it, deeming it "undeorphanable", AWB will not apply the orphan tag. Thoughts, comments? Avicennasis @ 06:02, 11 Elul 5771 / 06:02, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
AWB already supports some kind of whitelist. This includes dab and sia pages and some more. Any example of pages that could be whitelisted? Areyou sure these pages can't be included in some kinf of list? -- Magioladitis (talk) 19:40, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
I dislike this template. It seems to be used for drive-by tagging and uglifies the reader's experience to no good end. It's used on undeorphanable articles as noted by various editors above, and will doubtless continue to be regardless of instruction to the contrary. It's fine on talk pages though, so I suggest adding this to the template's documentation: "This template is for use on talk pages, not article pages". Any objection to this? Herostratus (talk) 05:55, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
The proposition is to make this template invisible by removing the text parts. Articles tagged with this template would still appear in Category:All orphaned articles. Herostratus (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
(See usage: Category:All orphaned articles - used in 54,124 pages (live count.) comment added by Wikid77
This template provides no useful information to readers, only to editors. The purpose of this template is served just as well by a hidden category as a glaring notice at the top of the article. It has been suggested that this template be moved to the article talk page, but such a change would involve either (1) a massive move of all of the existing template inclusions, or (2) inconsistent use of the template. Also, I would argue that talk pages these days are already cluttered up with enough notices. The simplest solution would be to change this template so that it just adds a hidden category to the article, rather than a notice and a category. I would especially favor this solution since a large proportion of articles tagged with the template are difficult or impossible to de-orphan, thus making a notice a waste of space. Kaldari (talk) 22:20, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
(First two comments by User:Herostratus and Kaldari moved here from above section with some slight redactions for readability. Some comments may no longer apply to this RfC.) Herostratus (talk) 16:41, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
I was mooting an RfC over making it a talk page template. However, apparently for some editors are not in favor of this since it would require one of these:
I just quite frankly don't see what the problem is with #2. Lots and lots of human endeavors change mode over time. If your town decides that paving with concrete is better than the asphalt they have been using, you don't usually hear the objection "Yes, but but then (absent a huge repave-everything effort which we can't afford) we'll have a situation where some roads are concrete and some are asphalt, for a long time, and this is not acceptable, and so even though using concrete would be an improvement we can't do it". Right? I mean, so what if there's an inconsistency? How does this cause any real harm? It's a minor annoyance is all, and against that you have that no more templates will be added to article pages which has a big upside.
If an editor likes the current status (placement on article pages) and uses the "inconsistency" point as one of his arguments, that doesn't matter. He's against moving them to talk pages (or to a hidden category) anyway. However, if a significant number of editors are likely to be of the mind "I wish we could move the template to talk pages but I can't support this because of the inconsistency problem", then it'd be a waste of time to RfC this and we should instead go ahead with RfC'ing your suggestion of rewriting the template to not appear. (I'd rather not do this because it might generate the argument "Oppose, it should appear somewhere, why not just move to talk pages?") But whatever is most likely to work. I'd be interested in hearing if there are editors who:
For the record, there is some discussion on the thread preceding this RfC, which points to some earlier discussion: (Wikipedia talk:Orphan#This maintenance template should be placed on the talk page, here,here, perhaps others). The objection that is a a perennial issue (see Wikipedia:Perennial_proposals#Move_maintenance_tags_to_talk_pages doesn't really hold water in my opinion as this RfC concerns just the Orphan template, not all maintenance tags.) Herostratus (talk) 16:53, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
ORP is the Polish Navy prefix. It is equivalent to HMS or USS. We now have Template:HMS and Template:USS, which are the well-organized way of generating links for British and US ships. I have use for a Polish ORP template on World War II pages, but "ORP" currently redirects here. Varlaam (talk) 16:19, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
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Could the template be edited to show the current definition of Orphan ~ an article with no links from other pages in the main article namespace ~ please? Currently, of course, it says "few or no other articles link to it". This refinement will help people like me. Thank you. Cheers, LindsayHello 17:13, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
Hold one, pilgrim; I think you're misunderstanding the request (which admittedly could have been clearer). I think the requestor is referring to the "few or" modifier. In other words, he's drawing attention to the "no" rather than the "in the main article namespace" clause of this (the opening sentence of Wikipedia:Orphan):
This is reiterated at Wikipedia:Orphan#What is an orphan? ("Orphan: An article with no incoming links which meet the criteria for linking below") and emphasized even more strongly at the internal link given there, to wit:
The bolding and all-caps are in the original, so I have to assume that they feel pretty strongly about that. (Of course, inbound links from user pages, disambiguation pages, essays, and so forth aren't counted -- they aren't, after all, articles -- and this is indeed made clear at Wikipedia:Orphan. And there are other clauses to prevent a Wikipedia:Walled garden situation and so forth.)
But they then go in true Wikipedia fashion to muddle the water with
If I'm reading this correctly, we thus have a state where one is enjoined from (or at least advised against) placing the orphan tag unless there are no incoming links, but if the tag is in place one is enjoined from (or at least advised against, if one wishes to achieve the "ideal" state) from removing it unless and until there are three incoming links.
This asymmetrical state of affairs is not very logical or, really, acceptable, but that is outside the scope of this page. However, let's think this through: We have that
Against this you have only the hand-waving reference to some pie-in-the-sky "ideal" state where all articles have at least three incoming links. Very well, after we have solved world peace we can work toward this ideal quiverfull-like state for articles. (Possibly we should have a separate template, "near-orphan" or something, for articles that have only one or two incoming links, but's outside the scope here.) Given all the above, I think the following edit is in order:
Right. Does anyone therefore disagree that, pending further discussion, this template should have its previous wording restored, along with a revert to the same effect at WP:ORPHAN? Assuming that's the case, I'll make those changes and also raise a request to have WP:GLOSSARY updated to reflect the prevailing understanding of what an orphaned article is (in other words, an article which is only barely tied to the rest of the encyclopedia rather than just one which has literally zero inbound links). Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 09:04, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
I think the current image, of a little puzzle piece, adds little and ought to be replaced, to wit:
I'm dead serious about this by the way. My reasoning is that the proposed new image:
We're not corporate drones here after all. A lot of editors -- most editors, probably -- think the template shouldn't even be on articles (it should go on talk pages instead), but Wikipedia doesn't works by majority rule. But if we are going to have the template does it have to look like something from the oughts designed by a some business-casual-wearing cubicle drones at a medium-size, second-rate, slowly failing design firm in St Louis? We want to attract a new cohort of editors or don't we? Let's get on board with the program, people. Herostratus (talk) 16:05, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
Dear Sirs, I have added External Links to the page. How can de-orphan it? Thank you Samerajour (talk) 10:48, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
I can see the need for the template, sometimes. But it's inclusion in most cases is not subject to any consensus, and makes wikipedia look plain ugly. Can we at least move it to the bottom of the page for the humans to review first before it is moved to the top?
Leng T'che (talk) 10:18, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
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Ok... this isn't a scientific survey or anything but "the vast majority of people I have spoken to think they are "ugly, intrusive and distracting." Now, what is your basis of a "consensus"? IMHO: The last thing a "orphan article" needs is a bundle of verbosity at the top.
move to bottom - my "vote", for the record.)
(Also for the record: I have been previously tagged "Troll?" by PKT(alk)
Leng T'che (talk) 23:30, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
I have done as you wish. But note that Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style and WP:VPP are about general Maintenance issues, where as I am talking about this specific template. So your "suggestion" "this is not the place to discuss a major change to article layout policy" does not apply. Indeed posting there could be akin to canvassing for the Status Quo. e.g. Round up the usual suspects. - Leng T'che (talk) 02:15, 12 December 2012 (UTC)
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Added small=left option to display a smaller message box, please copy sandbox to template. See User:Traveler100/sandbox/orphanexamples#with small --Traveler100 (talk) 06:55, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
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I just happened to notice that this template is attempting to place Plaça del Rei into Category:Orphaned articles about a place from June 2012, due to |geo=yes. But since the parent category doesn't exist (it was deleted in 2009), there's not really any place to put this subcategory were it to be created. If this categorization is useful, please create Category:Orphaned articles about a place and place it in Category:Wikipedia maintenance categories sorted by month, and AnomieBOT will automatically create the June 2012 subcategory; if it is not useful, let's remove the special case categorization so the template will place Plaça del Rei into Category:Orphaned articles from June 2012 instead. Anomie⚔ 19:55, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
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In the text introduced by the incat parameter, please refer to the segment: link to it] ''',There is an extra space here between the text and the comma. Please change to: link to it]''',Asserted as uncontroversial. Thanks. – Wdchk (talk) 16:16, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
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Was there ever any decision about the "no links" vs "no or few" wording? Surely if it remains at none, there should also be a separate template for "few links". At present it's far from clear what to do with articles with one or two links: this template isn't applicable, but the advice about removing it is extremely equivocal. 84.203.39.242 (talk) 05:01, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
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As of this edit, the |att parameter changes the wording of the template to "This article is a reviewed orphan, as no other articles link to it." First off, I don't think it's very clear, to someone unfamiliar with the template, what this means. And secondly, I thought the idea behind the "attempted de-orphan" thing was that some articles will always be orphans (i.e. only linked to from one or two articles), and that this isn't a problem, but the orphan tag can't be removed because AWB users will keep re-adding it; therefore, the tag is simply hidden. That may no longer be a relevant concern, given the new definition of an orphan as an article with zero links, which most AWB users abide by, but if it's no longer necessary to hide the template, I don't think the |att parameter should change the wording at all; it should just put the article in a different maintenence category. If there has to be a visible change in the template, it should be something less confusing – maybe a second line in small text saying "An attempt was made to de-orphan this article on [date]". DoctorKubla (talk) 10:47, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Mr. Stradivarius, I was wondering if I could get you to modify this module. I would like to add a wrapper id of {{lc:{{{name|«messagebox type»}}}}} and I would like it to add a style to that id of display: {{#ifeq:{{yesno|{{{hidden}}}|yes|none|inherit}}; To be able to test this idea and make Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive 109#Alternate_idea.3F a reality since there seems to be unanimous support for this method at this time. Thanks. Technical 13 (talk) 04:44, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
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Following the outcome of this RfC, orphan tags need to be added to the talk namespace instead of the mainspace. Ramaksoud2000 (Talk to me) 01:50, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
Well, hold on. It depends on what tools are broken, how they are broken, what's involved in fixing them, and perhaps other matters.
Overall, I think that if some tools, for a short while, must of necessity put orphan tags on article pages, the tool is not broken. It's just not operating optimally. Yobot 23 will clear all this up sooner or later, I would think.
For my part, I actively want the Orphan tag to appear on the talk page, I think. And remember, some non-trivial minority wanted it continue to be visible on the article page. So let's not assume that making it completely invisible to humans is what everyone wants. We need to discuss this. There's no hurry.
I think before we move forward we want to get a feel for how many tens, hundreds, or thousands of man-hours and calendar days we are talking about to fix the tools. There's no need to rush any of this, so why not leave the current RfC result as the operative rule, but continue to discuss this awhile before running Yobot 23 or doing mass moves of the template? Herostratus (talk) 21:04, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
On the other hand, looking at the original RfC in question, it's clear that very many of the people supporting moving the tag to the talk page were mainly motivated by a desire to get the ugly honkin' thing off the the article page, and few commentors specifically said that the appearance of the tag on talk pages would be a positive good. So this is something worth continuing to discuss I think. Herostratus (talk) 21:21, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I should have tested earlier, but just confirmed the common.css solution works. Kudos for this idea. We can update the template documentation to explain this.
Just one issue I found. Look at Template:Orphan/testcases. Can someone fix so that the bullet points line up inside {{Multiple issues}}. Confess that I don't fully understand how this magic works, so I don't know what to do to make them line up. Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 21:45, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
P.S. You will need to look at it with your common.css activated to see what I'm talking about. Wbm1058 (talk) 21:50, 9 January 2014 (UTC) @Mr. Stradivarius:, @Technical 13: - can one of you figure this out? Thanks, Wbm1058 (talk) 01:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
One problem with the Multiple issues template is that the Orphan information is reduced down to just a few words; significantly, the 'related articles' and 'suggestions may be available' links do not appear. I find these extremely useful when attempting to de-orphan articles, and so have to put in an extra edit first to separate out the Orphan tag from the Multiple issues template... only to put it back again on a second edit if the de-orphanage attempt fails,
Would it be possible for these two links simply to be added to the Toolbox in the left-hand pane?
Meanwhile, unrelated to this, can I take this opportunity to note that this page says "and also hides the article message box" for the att tag, which used to be the case, but appears not to be the template's current behaviour. TheAMmollusc (talk) 11:54, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
@TheAMmollusc: – Regarding your first question, to which nobody has yet responded: The issue was created by this 25 June 2012 edit, which split the former text parameter into the new issue and fix parameters, as documented in the issue and fix section of the {{Ambox}} documentation. When placed inside {{multiple issues}} only the issue is shown. I agree that this is a problem. Either we revert to using the full message with the text parameter or rework the parameters so that the important links are included in the issue parameter. Or can we specify smalltext for {{multiple issues}}? Perhaps the best solution is to have a verbose issue & fix message for the stand-alone version and a brief issue & fix message for the multiple issues version. I'd have to try that in the sandbox to see if it would work. – Wbm1058 (talk) 22:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
When the template is added to the talk page (e.g. Talk:Ornithochilus cacharensis), clicking on "suggestions may be available" asks the Find link tool to look for links to Talk:Ornithochilus cacharensis instead of Ornithochilus cacharensis. Could someone please change {{orphan}} so that Find link looks for links to the article instead of the talk page? I think this could be done by changing the variable from {{FULLPAGENAMEE}} to {{ARTICLEPAGENAME}}. Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 03:24, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
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This was already suggested in passing by User:Wbm1058 at the recent RFC.
I think the "suggestions may be available" text that currently links to the find links tool should be changed to read something along the lines of "try the Find links tool for suggestions" This should make it more obvious where the link will go and hopefully encourage more people to try it. Jamesmcmahon0 (talk) 15:47, 24 December 2013 (UTC)
Done, with this 00:02, 8 February 2014 edit. – Wbm1058 (talk) 00:06, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
This bold 16 September 2013 edit by Kaldari "reverting to previous version, if an article cannot be de-orphaned, there is no point in showing the notice" had as a (perhaps unintended) side effect the depopulating of Category:Low linked articles. I'm going to revert that part of this edit, so that the category may be repopulated. If for no other reason, if may be useful as a means of diffusing the overpopulated orphan categories. I think any potential removal of this category should be discussed here or at WP:Categories for discussion. Let's see how widespread use of the few parameter is. Wbm1058 (talk) 17:19, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
I'm confused by parts of the discussion above which seems to assume an outcome different to what I see at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 108#Proposal to move the Orphan tags to the talk page ("There is consensus to move orphan tags to the talk page") and this template's documentation ("This should be added only to the talk namespace, following an RfC.)" (original emphasis) & passim. Despite that RfC, is this template still to be placed on the article itself (whether an attempt to de-orphan it has been made or not)? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:32, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
That is because the consensus formed in Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 108#Proposal to move the Orphan tags to the talk page has been deemed technically infeasible No it has not -- it is trivial to run a bot job to move them all to the talk page this is stalling by people who did not like the outcome of the RfC at the very least the wording in the template should be removed immediately and those that remain in article spaced should be moved to the bottom of the page. -- PBS (talk) 11:45, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
I believe the sentence should read, 'This article is an orphan as no other articles link to it'. 'As' is a subordinating conjunction. Kayau (talk · contribs) 09:29, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
A discussion that will determine placement of this notice is happening at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Archive 108#Proposal to move the Orphan tags to the talk page. Please discuss at that location. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 08:18, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
But persuant to the discussion two threads above
So OK, Bob's your uncle.
So why hasn't this been done? Just erasing the text is trivial, is there any reason for this not having been done? Absent objection I propose to do this presently. Herostratus (talk) 21:28, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
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Yes Wbm1058 go ahead and implement.
I think the best way to handle complicated questions like this is to go ahead and implement, then adjust as needed.
I can't really speak for the community, but I'm going to anyway, based on my understanding of the issues discussed over time and so forth. The main task is to implement the decision, as soon as reasonably possible and and close to the spirit of the decision as reasonably possible.
So if the text is visible for only the first couple months of placement, that'd be reasonable. So let's implement if you can implement soon. Dunno about an opt-in for longer-term visibility and I don't see the reason, BUT it's not worth arguing over. Implement. We can discuss down the road if that is working or not.
Ditto {{Multiple issues}}, this is a separate issue and also secondary. Copy the existing Orphan template to (say) Orphan-visible and edit the Multiple issues template to display that, as a kludge for now, or whatever. Everything does not need to be all Sir Garnet at once.
I understand that you'd like to see more analysis of how articles are currently de-orphaned and so on, but this is secondary to getting the tag off the article pages soonest. The needs of the Orphanage project aren't negligible, but they are secondary. If the lack of visible text in the tag impinges on the functionality of the Orphanage project, well, it is what it is. Any reasonable accommodation, provided it is done in the spirit of respect to the community's decision, implement, and we can discuss down the line how it's working.
So let's do this.
Sadads, re "I have serious problems with making the tag entirely invisible", what can I say? There're a large lot of people who don't agree. And this has been a many-years-long discussion where, generally, most people have held that opinion, culminating in well-populated RfC where a considerable majority expressed the belief that it's time to do this. We can have another RfC down the line offering some other option, but we can't stall implementing this one for now, Herostratus (talk) 22:16, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
Statistics: 117343 pages transcluding {{Orphan}}, 43012 inside {{Multiple issues}} and 74331 without since there the sole tag in the page. -- Magioladitis (talk) 22:38, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Per the Rfc the Orphan template should not be in article space. If it has to remain there for a limited period while people come up with piratical tools to implement the RfC then so be it. But it defiantly should not be displaying text in article space. If text is needed then place the text on the talk page. Therefore Option is not an issue that should present text in the template {{Multiple issues}} -- PBS (talk) 22:17, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
I frequently used the {{Orphan}} tag in preview editing of an article so I could use the link it provided to check the list of articles that linked to it. It was very useful if I moved an article and wanted to fix the links from the old title to the new title. Now that the orphan article has been changed can anyone tell me an easy way to access that? Thanks for your help! Spidey104 21:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
Hi there, I just want to replace
[...]this page from [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search={{PAGENAMEU}}&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext={{PAGENAMEU}} related articles]; [...]
this part of the template code by
[...]this page from <span class="plainlink">[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&redirs=1&search={{PAGENAMEU}}&fulltext=Search&ns0=1&title=Special%3ASearch&advanced=1&fulltext={{PAGENAMEU}} related articles]</span>; [...]
Actually the mentioned link is not an external link, it is within Wikipedia so why should we use [link] format? My proposal is to use
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in this case. Another related thing is that, it increases the server load; is used by bit.wikimedia which increases the server load by adding a file after the link. So I wanted to change it since this template is used in more than 100,000 article. Many thanks. Jim Carter (talk) 10:47, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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I was asked to describe "mistakes" in the tagging of articles with the tool. On 4 June 2014, I discovered a bad link in a list of legendary ancestors of the Irish people to Bile. I created a page Bile (Irish legend), corrected the link in the list of legendary ancestors, and added a link to Bile (disambiguation). Then Bensci54 tagged the article as an orphan. I removed the tag. The history of Bile (Irish legend) will show this. In a subsequent (now archived) discussion at the WP:Help Desk, other Help Desk regulars said that they had seen this from time to time. Robert McClenon (talk) 20:19, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
I just added the "orphan" tag to the new article titled G-measure. But the usual "orphan" notice does not appear at the top of the article. What's going on? Michael Hardy (talk) 18:54, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
Could someone please change the text in this template from "Find links tool" to "Find link tool"? As you can see at https://edwardbetts.com/find_link the name of the tool is "Find link" (with no "s"). Thanks! GoingBatty (talk) 16:24, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
The current wording added by the Orphan template ("Please introduce links to this page from related articles; ...") encourages people to go find victim articles to degrade by adding junk statements into them to link them to low-quality articles. IMHO, the wording should be made softer to avoid encouraging this. Links should only be added into articles if they will improve the article that is getting the link added into it. Links should not be added into articles merely to ensure that every low-quality article gets promoted by having some victim articles that link to it. Low-quality orphan articles should stay orphans (or be deleted) if they are not helpful to other articles. COI and topic-fan editors shouldn't be encouraged to broadly spread their mess. I suggest changing the quoted wording to "If there are related articles that would be improved by introducing readers to the information in this article, create links in those articles to help people find it; ...". —BarrelProof (talk) 23:16, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
How to check current status of an article if it is still orphan? Bladesmulti (talk) 12:15, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
importScript('User:Technical 13/Scripts/OrphanStatus.js');// Backlink: [[User:Technical 13/Scripts/OrphanStatus]]
I could edit this myself, but I wouldn't dare. I'll leave it to someone who knows what they're doing.
As I understand from the documentation, the template text box appears when it is inside a {{multiple issues}} tag. As you can see from the article Jitu Patwari, the template isn't appearing.
If you reset the date to November or December 2014, it does appear. However, its appearance in a list of multiple issues should be independent of the date. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:05, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
{{multiple issues| {{notability|bio|date=December 2014}} {{refimprove|date=December 2014}} {{Orphan|date=February 2014}} }}
The following is copied from the Village Pump archives. – Wbm1058 (talk) 16:09, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
I have found a technical solution which makes T13's proposal to hide the orphan message only when it is not part of {{multiple issues}} possible. It's not pretty, but I think it works. Implementing a more elegant solution requires another redesign of {{multiple issues}}. That template has already been redesigned once, and the need to continue supporting the legacy design contributes to the complexity of the solution.
(. . .) Wbm1058 (talk) 17:17, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi, I just went through the "few" links categories and many had three or more incoming links or were unsourced and probably not notable stubs with a sentence. I updated all the "|few=" parameters to May 2015 but none of the articles got moved into that category. I would think that the template would categorize pages into date categories by last activity instead of first activity. Is there any way that anyone can update the template to exhibit this behavior? I think it would be beneficial and reduce working over each other. Thanks. 3gg5amp1e (talk) 15:52, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
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